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THIS GAME IS FUCKING AWESOME

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Got the game today, and it is fantastic.

I'm up to Title Defense King Hippo, but I can't get his Manhole cover off. I know you have to get him to lean to his side and aim for the tape, but I don't know how to do that.
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I'm up to the Title Defense version of Soda Popinski. I think I've been playing way too much, though, as my thumb is starting to become sore... just like the old days with the NES version. :godot:

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Got the game today, and it is fantastic.

I'm up to Title Defense King Hippo, but I can't get his Manhole cover off. I know you have to get him to lean to his side and aim for the tape, but I don't know how to do that.


Ah, that one was a bit tricky at first. As I recall, you have to punch him in the face to stun him, then punch him on the side of the stomach three times to break one piece of tape at a time. It gets tricky after the first time, as you have to punch him on the side of the face where he isn't blocking. After the manhole cover breaks off, he's pretty much just a harder version of the first fight.
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I'm up to the Title Defense version of Soda Popinski. I think I've been playing way too much, though, as my thumb is starting to become sore... just like the old days with the NES version. :godot:


I'm not looking forward to that.

World Circuit Soda Popinski was easier than depicted in the early videos. His 3/4 rage uppercuts were easy to see coming and dodge. I found his regular attacks harder.

Beaten TD King Hippo, and I'm up to Title Defense Don Flamenco. He's WAY too fast for me! I've been using the Wii remote and Nunchuk, which I think is easier to dodge, as you can go northeast or northwest to go straight from block/jab to dodge. Intercepting attacks such as Hondo Rush and Bull Charge are much harder though.

EDIT: I'm up to Title Defense Popinski, and I swear there's liquefied steroids in those bottles. He barely taunts or gets his bottle out for easy stars, and there's barely enough reaction time for his hooks and uppercuts. Predict and you often get it wrong, study the first couple frames and he hits you before you dodge.
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Just got this today.

Oh God.

OH GOD.

Also, am I the only one who found Don Flamenco hilarious?
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I just got it today too! Don Flamenco.....is an asshole. Just got up to the World Circuit. I hate Aran Ryan >:(
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Coppo wrote:
EDIT: I'm up to Title Defense Popinski, and I swear there's liquefied steroids in those bottles. He barely taunts or gets his bottle out for easy stars, and there's barely enough reaction time for his hooks and uppercuts. Predict and you often get it wrong, study the first couple frames and he hits you before you dodge.

Ah, TD Soda Popinski took me quite a while, too. I basically just hammered him with 3-star punches until he went down, but I had to do the fight at least ten times to get the timing to be perfect. I'm currently stuck on TD Bald Bull.


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Also, am I the only one who found Don Flamenco hilarious?

Honestly, there isn't a single character in the game I didn't find funny. It's especially hilarious when you learn just what the characters are saying to you; Glass Joe, for example, complains that his doctor has ruled you to be bad for his health. Before chugging a soda during a fight, Soda Popinski says "to my health!", which of course is entirely contradictory. :redd:


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I just got it today too! Don Flamenco.....is an asshole. Just got up to the World Circuit. I hate Aran Ryan >:(


If you hate him now, consider that he's several times worse in Title Defense mode. I actually liked Aran Ryan, though; he's the only boxer than can only be beaten entirely by countering. Not to mention that he's completely nuts.


Oh, and for anyone that wants to complete the game 100%, there are certain things that can't be unlocked once you get to certain points in the game. The two I know about so far;


- If you beat both Career and Title Defense without using the practice mode, you will never unlock the intro video for the mode in the gallery, as the practice mode for each fighter completely dissappears once you beat the fighter in the main mode.


- If you want to unlock a helmet that Little Mac can use, which makes him take up to 75% less damage from most attacks, you have to lose 100 matches in Career/Title Defense. Since you can't fight boxers again in this mode, once you complete it you can never get the helmet. Not that it would help much after that, as you can only use it in this mode, anyway.
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Just want to ask. I'm thinking about trying this game out, but how different is it from the NES version? Would you say that the characters are as loveable as they were in the original? I've seen some screenshots and gameplay and it looks promising. I'm also curious about the controls. Do they have it to where you can play in a classic style? I'm also curious if the final boss is Mike TysonMr. Dream of if they got someone new? Thanks for the answers in advance!
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I can't say much about the comparison to NES Punch-Out, since I haven't played that. The characters however are all lovable and have strong personalities.

There are three control options I'm aware of. Wiimote and Nunchuk motion senor, which the control stick dodges, blocks and ducks while moving the remote and nunchuk in a punching motion (or shaking it if you're too lazy) will punch. I find that it's much easier to dodge and recover health with this control scheme, but countering is trickier.
There's also Wiimote&Nunchuk + Wii Balance Board, which is like the above, only dodging and ducking is taken off the control stick and placed onto the Wii balance board. I didn't like it myself. After dodging left, the character then immediately dodged right instead of attacking because my center of gravity leaned to the other side a bit when going back into the stationary position.
Finally, there's the classic NES controller, the Wii remote tilted sideways. I hear it's the same as NES, though the Star Uppercut is assigned to A or -, which is placed in the center, and a little difficult to reach. Nothing is more quick and accurate than button pressing, so when an opponent requires precision, this control scheme may outshine the others.

The Final opponent in World Circuit and Title Defense is Mr. Sandman, and the secret opponent is in the spoiler tag.
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Title Defense Soda Popinski defeated! Once I found out his standing still hook can be countered for a star, I used it to force him into his rage uppercuts as much as possible, as it's easy to see coming and therefore dodge, and the dizzy time after it is satisfyingly long. If it helps others, one thing I've noticed is he often uses two hooks, pauses and then two uppercuts. This can change however, and his hooks could either be standing still or step to the side which can't be countered. If he's enraged after his uppercuts (longer roar after getting up), his attacks are quicker, and he might use his hooks/uppercuts three or four times. Be very aware of his enhanced speed, especially when he gets his soda bottle out.

How the blue blazes are you supposed to beat Title Defense Bald Bull? I heard he's the toughest of TD mode, and I can see why. Doesn't fall down to regular punches, and he goes a good job of knocking away my stars as soon as I get them, which I can only get from his rare taunt.
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Just want to ask. I'm thinking about trying this game out, but how different is it from the NES version? Would you say that the characters are as loveable as they were in the original? I've seen some screenshots and gameplay and it looks promising. I'm also curious about the controls. Do they have it to where you can play in a classic style? I'm also curious if the final boss is Mike TysonMr. Dream of if they got someone new? Thanks for the answers in advance!

The game overall is like a combination of the best aspects of the different Punch-Out!! games. The heart meter and stars from the NES version, the moves and stamina from the SNES version, and characters from both. There's even a few aspects from the arcade version, like the see-through camera view. As for how different it is from the NES version, I'd say the first half of the main Career mode will be very nostalgic. It's the second half, the Title Defense mode, that really kicks things up a notch.


The characters are just as memorable, and even moreso this time around. They ooze with personality, both in what they do and say (with most of the characters speaking their own native languages, without subtitles). They really shine in-between rounds, with small cutscenes showing them in comedic or just plain weird moments.


The controls work well, pretty much any way is equally recommended aside from the use of the Balance Board. The Wiimote+Nunchuck motion controls are spot on, though somewhat tiring - especially later in the game, it can be quite a workout. The Wiimote on its side allows the game to be played NES style, with the A button as the Star Punch and minus (-) to pause the game. The game even features some of the old features from the other games, like pushing a button in between rounds to regain some health.


The final boss, as stated before, is Mr. Sandman. There's a bonus character as well, but I wouldn't really count him as the final boss, just an extra thrown in for fun.


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How the blue blazes are you supposed to beat Title Defense Bald Bull? I heard he's the toughest of TD mode, and I can see why. Doesn't fall down to regular punches, and he goes a good job of knocking away my stars as soon as I get them, which I can only get from his rare taunt.

Whenever he hits you with the uppercut, he taunts right after, which you can get a star from. If you can keep a star for when he does the bull charge, it's an instant knockdown if you can hit him with a star punch while he's charging at you. The timing is next to impossible, though.
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The bull has been put down.

Title Defense Bald Bull that is, by judge's decision. Yeah, decision isn't the most satisfying way to win, but a win is a win, and TD Bald Bull is finally beaten. I'll give you hints which helped me.

My goal was not to KO or TKO him, but to get to the end of round 3. To do this, you've got to avoid as many attacks as possible. And to do that, your best bet is to learn the order of his attacks. Keep fighting him, whether it be practice or Career mode (I suggest the latter, the losses will go towards your headgear), and learn his attacks. The attacks he uses also changes once you've knocked him down once.

To knock Bald Bull down, I dodged and attacked until his health emptied, and when he pulls himself away from the floor, he'll use a certain pattern. Memorize this pattern is what I did. He used a fast twirl punch from the left (surprise, it's usually the right), so punch once. He'll shake his fists and use a hook, dodge and punch three times. He then does his taunt. GET THE STAR! Finally, he'll use his uppercut, the fast one. Knowing he'll use it after his taunt, it'll be easier to dodge. Dodge it and punch him four times and then use the Star Uppercut. With the five done before his uppercut and the four after, he'll have low enough health to be emptied by the Star Uppercut.
That's Bald Bull knocked down, which will go towards the judge's decision.

Once you've knocked Bald Bull down once, his pattern WILL change from the above to this. He'll shake his fists and punch, dodge and punch three times. I think (I'm not sure) he'll then shake his fists on the other side and say "Ahh-lan", then delay and hook. Dodge that, and punch three times. He'll taunt, get the star. He'll THEN use the twirly jab, do NOT use the Star Uppercut here. Dodge it and punch once. Finally, he'll use his quick uppercut, and THAT is when you dodge, punch and finish with the Star Uppercut. I think if you land all the punches before, then four after his uppercut, it might deplete his, health, so keep and eye on it, and unleash the Star Uppercut when his health is low enough (you should know how much a one-star uppercut takes off by now).

Since you're aiming to get a judge's decision, you'll have to survive to the end of round three taking as little damage as possible. When Bald Bull does his Bull Charge, praise the lord, because that will waste LOTS of time in that round. I have no hope at all countering that, so dodge it. Wait for him to blow out steam, then when the steam is gone, dodge. He'll do this four or five times. Keep dodging until it's finished, and a lot of time from the clock will be gone.

Keep playing against him, and learn his order of attacks. Don't get fazed if you get it wrong, just keep dodging and punching. And pray to high heaven he uses his Bull Charge, as that will consume a lot of the round. If you've knocked him down more than he has you and/or you've done more damage to him than he has to you, then the referee will hopefully select you as the winner.
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TD Bald Bull was insane - I was about to give up for a while last night when I was able to TKO him late in the third round, using a 3-star level punch just as the clock was about to run out. He went down for the third time, with the clock at 0:01. I probably would've won by decision, but that victory was ever so satisfying.


Super Macho Man was easy, especially compared to Bald Bull, and I TKO'd him in round 1 on the first try.


Sandman though... Wow. He doesn't even have to move to punch you. It's like, one second he's still, the next his hand just flies off of one side of your face.
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dullahan1 wrote:
Just want to ask. I'm thinking about trying this game out, but how different is it from the NES version? Would you say that the characters are as loveable as they were in the original? I've seen some screenshots and gameplay and it looks promising. I'm also curious about the controls. Do they have it to where you can play in a classic style? I'm also curious if the final boss is Mike TysonMr. Dream of if they got someone new? Thanks for the answers in advance!


What Blademaster said.

Also, I'd say it's the best Punch-Out!! in the entire series hands down.
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Thanks for the replies everyone. I'm definitely gonna have to give this game a try now. It sounds completely awesome. :)
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I finally beat the game; I have to say, it was a very fun experience. Taking down Sandman, and then doing Mac's Last Stand - a mode where if you lose three matches, the game ends, even if you didn't unlock everything, and the Career mode becomes obselete. That includes the secret character; If you don't unlock him by fighting him in Last Stand mode (you don't have to win, thankfully), you have to start a new file to get him.


My final record for Career mode is 36-22 (31 KO). Not bad, but I could really do better. I might start a new file someday, but for now I think I've had enough Punch-Out!! for a while. :hobohodo:
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I finally beat the game; I have to say, it was a very fun experience. Taking down Sandman, and then doing Mac's Last Stand - a mode where if you lose three matches, the game ends, even if you didn't unlock everything, and the Career mode becomes obselete. That includes the secret character; If you don't unlock him by fighting him in Last Stand mode (you don't have to win, thankfully), you have to start a new file to get him.


WHAT??

I rushed straight from TD Bald Bull to here and haven't been on again yet to fight TD Super Macho Man or Mr. Sandman, but Mac's Last Stand mode sounds completely unfair. When you say the game ends, does that mean everything is locked out? Future Last Stand attempts? Championship mode? I've done a little bit of reading and the bonus 14th character must be fought in Last Stand, but there's no guarantee that the boxer will appear in your first three matches.

I'm freaking out already and I haven't even beaten TD mode yet. Just tell me what the difficulty level is like. Easier or harder than Title Defense? With every TD fight I lost at least once before winning(excluding King Hippo, who I fought like crazy on Practice).
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The game is pure awesome.

Tried it out at a friend's house....who let me play it for 5 hours :P

I really....really hate Super Macho Man.It's only my personal opinion,but he's kinda hard for a newbie like me.
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Wasn't it "Mike Tyson's Punch-Out"?

What happened with the original name?
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It was for the original, but Mike Tyson had some kind of lawsuit or something happen while the game was out, so they had to take Mike Tyson's name off of the game, hence why he's called Mr. Dream in the later versions of the NES instead of Mike Tyson.
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I heard it was because Tyson lost the belt to someone else. There was a rumor going around at the time that it was because of Tyson being accused of sexual abuse or something like that, but those rumors were denied.
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WHAT??

I rushed straight from TD Bald Bull to here and haven't been on again yet to fight TD Super Macho Man or Mr. Sandman, but Mac's Last Stand mode sounds completely unfair. When you say the game ends, does that mean everything is locked out? Future Last Stand attempts? Championship mode? I've done a little bit of reading and the bonus 14th character must be fought in Last Stand, but there's no guarantee that the boxer will appear in your first three matches.


Well, once you lose three times in Last Stand, the career mode ends. Little Mac "retires", which means the Career mode is over, and the only use for it is to see how you fared against all of the boxers. It's very possible to lose three times and never see the secret character. You can still do exhibition, versus and the other things, but career mode is over.


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I'm freaking out already and I haven't even beaten TD mode yet. Just tell me what the difficulty level is like. Easier or harder than Title Defense? With every TD fight I lost at least once before winning(excluding King Hippo, who I fought like crazy on Practice).

I'd say it's somewhat harder than TD mode; You're fighting the TD versions of the characters, but the lack of the restart and quit functions make the fights a bit more difficult, as you don't have the luxury of resetting the match. If you feel like you're losing the fight, you can technically get out of the match by using the Home menu to reset the software or quit to the Wii menu.


Just to note, however, that the next character you fight is automatically decided when the game saves, which means that if you're fighting Bald Bull and reset the software, even if the game doesn't tell you who you're fighting in the next match, it'll always be Bald Bull until you win or lose. Also, it is possible to face characters multiple times; I fought and beat Bear Hugger twice and Disco Kid three times, and lost to Bald Bull twice.


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Wasn't it "Mike Tyson's Punch-Out"?

What happened with the original name?

When their license for Tyson expired, Nintendo didn't bother renewing it, which meant that they had to remove his name and likeness from the game and replace him with Mr. Dream. Nintendo considers the version with Mr. Dream to be the "official" version.
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The NES game isn't the original anyway. There were two games in the series before that.

By the way, there is an easier way to take down Bald Bull 2.

Spoiler: Bald Bull 2
You have to learn to counter the Bull Charge. It seems incredibly hard, but once you've "gotten" the timing, you probably won't miss it again.

After you counter his Bull Charge, you get a star and he gets a "revival". Just as the close-up shot on his laughing face ends, throw your star punch and he'll be knocked down. He does that once in the first round, so after that it's a simple matter of knocking him down twice more (or once more, if you can get him down once before the Bull Charge).

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Easy, sure, if you can counter the Bull Charge. It's too hard for me, I just can't find the timing. :sadshoe:

I beat the final two TD matches, and I actually thought TD Super Macho Man was hard. I kept getting his spinning uppercuts confused and I keep forgetting about his Hang-Ten quick hook.

As for TD Mr. Sandman, oh lord. How did I win? My losses were about 52 when I got to him, and I beat him with my total losses at 77. (I will admit, after a while I purposely lost fights to try and unlock the headgear, when I gave up on that and gave it one last go, and won).

I've unlocked Mac's Last Stand, and I'm too scared to continue. I beat the first guy, TD Disco Kid, and lost to the bonus 14th character, who has been unlocked in Exhibition(and is without a doubt my favorite opponent).
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This thread hasn't been posted in for awhile, but i found something new to post. 1 person on Youtube is starting to make Phoenix Wrong style videos using the new (and old) Punch Out. Here's one:
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Looks like the're going to be just as funny :gant:
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I got into this after seeing a lot of LPers play it on Youtube... It's very fun, even with not a lot of "Differentiation" in its' content... :larry2:
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Ooh, I missed this topic. I got it in june and beat
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a week later. I'm at one of the last MLS bits, but it's Bald Bull. On Title Defence. The hardest guy in the game, IMO.
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Ooh, I missed this topic. I got it in june and beat
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a week later. I'm at one of the last MLS bits, but it's Bald Bull. On Title Defence. The hardest guy in the game, IMO.


TD Bald Bull actually messed up on my game... I was trying to get the "KO in 100 Seconds" challenge completed, and when it didn't work, I chose to just keep fighting... I knocked him down once, then his pattern got messed up... He did his "AI LAN!" Hook, then did, like, 5 Uppercuts in a row... I Knocked him down after getting 3 starts from the last 3 of them... Then he did another hook and kept doing Uppercuts... Not entirely sure, but I KNOW he did more after 1 and 2 knockdowns than 1 hook and constant uppercuts...
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