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Re: [PAL as well!] Virtue's Last Reward: 999 Sequel (3DS/Vit

Thu Feb 14, 2013 5:31 pm

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Bloody hell, this game is loooooong. I'm on the

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Re: [PAL as well!] Virtue's Last Reward: 999 Sequel (3DS/Vit

Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:48 pm

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Obviously I won't read the Q&A for a long time yet, but is ZE3 officially in development or what?
I imagine it'd be on 3DS too.

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Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:52 pm

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I am fairly certain someone announced (maybe on NeoGAF?) that ZE3 is in development right now. And I'd BETTER be on 3DS and Vita again. Or at least 3DS, since that's all I have.

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Thu Feb 14, 2013 7:21 pm

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Its obviously some way off, but I do hope it comes over here. That may be more possible than I'd think, if VLR is selling well.
Actually, is there a number for copies of VLR sold Stateside/EU?

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Fri Feb 15, 2013 10:55 am

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I'm not sure I'm qualified to talk about VLR since I really don't get all the science and most of the time-travelling aspects... :yuusaku:

but I did love playing the game. It's so beautiful (I remember being really annoyed that it was going to be 3D instead of hand-drawn, but actually the 3D worked).

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I love Rabbit-Zero so much! I feel like he wasn't in it enough, but then also I probably would have thought it too gimmicky if he'd been in it as much as I wanted ( :phoenix:

would spot a contradiction in that last statement)

Also I agree with grim_tales. When I first met Dio I was so excited for his character, really thought he'd be my favourite...then he turned into a crazy a-hole of the cult kind.

Annoyed with Junpei's character (or rather old man Tenmyouji). He was so cool in 999 and then suddenly 45 years later his powers are just not good enough? And Akane strung him along for I think the longest time in all of history. How can you be that hard to get?! I mean I know she's busy making her save-the-world plans, but still Junpei searched for her for such a long time. He got all old and lonely and adopted some weird kid (who btw I did not like)... sidenote: wouldn't it have been really cool if they'd turned Tenmyouji into some Junpei-hobo like Phoenix in Apollo? Come on, Tenmyouji would've been infinitely cooler.

Another thing about kids. So Sigma hears the story from K about how much his childhood sucked and that his dad was about as useful as all the dads in Ace Attorney combined. Yet Sigma later finds out that HE is in fact the 'father' to K since K's his clone, and still with all this knowledge he will probably be as sucky a dad as before, except this time he'll know how unhappy little K is. And Sigma is a good guy (he was great with Quark despite how annoying that kid is, and I don't feel like little K would be an annoying kid) so why is starving little K of any affection? I mean I get that it must be weird to see yourself as a kid, but K clearly has his own personality. It just doesn't sit well with me.

What else... erm, Clover and Alice were cool. I liked Clover better in 999 but you know I did enjoy finding out how things went for her after the game ended. Would have really loved to find out about her brother since he was my favourite character from 999.

Favourite character in VLR has got to be Luna. She's so sweet! and I love her backstory. Go robots! :maya:

One thing I didn't like about the game was the fact that in order to fully complete it you HAVE to pick both ally and betray in every option. Sometimes it really made Sigma feel out of character. Actually a lot of the time it made him out of character and then he'd get all this backlash from characters.

Oh and while I did like Sigma and Phi as partners, I would have liked some more backstory between them like we got for Junpei and Akane.

Also I'm very impressed with Akane. She's been through three nonary games, seen the absolute worst in humanity every single time (seriously so many mass murderers) yet she still continues to set these games up in order to save humanity. Pretty nice going Akane, now if only you would return a phone call from Junpei sometime... :hobohodo:

Re: [PAL as well!] Virtue's Last Reward: 999 Sequel (3DS/Vit

Fri Feb 15, 2013 1:48 pm

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gems_01 wrote:

I'm not sure I'm qualified to talk about VLR since I really don't get all the science and most of the time-travelling aspects... :yuusaku:

but I did love playing the game. It's so beautiful (I remember being really annoyed that it was going to be 3D instead of hand-drawn, but actually the 3D worked).

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I love Rabbit-Zero so much! I feel like he wasn't in it enough, but then also I probably would have thought it too gimmicky if he'd been in it as much as I wanted ( :phoenix:

would spot a contradiction in that last statement)

Also I agree with grim_tales. When I first met Dio I was so excited for his character, really thought he'd be my favourite...then he turned into a crazy a-hole of the cult kind.

Annoyed with Junpei's character (or rather old man Tenmyouji). He was so cool in 999 and then suddenly 45 years later his powers are just not good enough? And Akane strung him along for I think the longest time in all of history. How can you be that hard to get?! I mean I know she's busy making her save-the-world plans, but still Junpei searched for her for such a long time. He got all old and lonely and adopted some weird kid (who btw I did not like)... sidenote: wouldn't it have been really cool if they'd turned Tenmyouji into some Junpei-hobo like Phoenix in Apollo? Come on, Tenmyouji would've been infinitely cooler.

Another thing about kids. So Sigma hears the story from K about how much his childhood sucked and that his dad was about as useful as all the dads in Ace Attorney combined. Yet Sigma later finds out that HE is in fact the 'father' to K since K's his clone, and still with all this knowledge he will probably be as sucky a dad as before, except this time he'll know how unhappy little K is. And Sigma is a good guy (he was great with Quark despite how annoying that kid is, and I don't feel like little K would be an annoying kid) so why is starving little K of any affection? I mean I get that it must be weird to see yourself as a kid, but K clearly has his own personality. It just doesn't sit well with me.

What else... erm, Clover and Alice were cool. I liked Clover better in 999 but you know I did enjoy finding out how things went for her after the game ended. Would have really loved to find out about her brother since he was my favourite character from 999.

Favourite character in VLR has got to be Luna. She's so sweet! and I love her backstory. Go robots! :maya:

One thing I didn't like about the game was the fact that in order to fully complete it you HAVE to pick both ally and betray in every option. Sometimes it really made Sigma feel out of character. Actually a lot of the time it made him out of character and then he'd get all this backlash from characters.

Oh and while I did like Sigma and Phi as partners, I would have liked some more backstory between them like we got for Junpei and Akane.

Also I'm very impressed with Akane. She's been through three nonary games, seen the absolute worst in humanity every single time (seriously so many mass murderers) yet she still continues to set these games up in order to save humanity. Pretty nice going Akane, now if only you would return a phone call from Junpei sometime... :hobohodo:

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Yeah, it seemed kind of strange to stop Zero III from appearing after early on in the timeline, but I guess him being snarky to everyone after every door would have become annoying. Also, it would be very annoying if he was there and refused to answer any questions about the strange things going on (it already was a bit annoying when he brushed off questions about dead Akane). For example, I recall in the developer's commentary for Portal 2 that they had to tone GLaDOS' words down because they were too harsh and made the player not want to like her later in the game.

Well, Junpei is old now, and he probably doesn't know much about the morphogenetic field beyond what happened in 999. Then again, perhaps something in ZE3 will explain why he isn't good enough. If nothing else, I expect trauma to happen in ZE3. Maybe even something that rekindles his desire to find Akane.

Well, you know what scientific workaholics are like... in fiction at least. I don't like it either.

Clover and Alice are kinda jerks in this game, but their backstory was kind of interesting. Even so, I think their characters and reasons for being there were weak (like Lotus in 999). Maybe there's a reason in ZE3, or maybe there's something in that Q&A that I haven't read yet...

Luna is the best.

I don't know if you technically have to get all the endings, especially the "you jerk" endings that just end with no additional revelations. But yeah. Sigma himself is self-aware that he's out of character in those situations though, sometimes thinking he did it just to see what would happen. I suppose you could see it as him unconsciously knowing that he could redo it, so why not? The jerk situation worked to lead to more plot at least once anyway, like when you chose betray against Alice after one of the first doors.

Phi is a mysterious character, and Sigma had never seen her before. I don't think they could have developed any more backstory at this point. I expect a lot more during ZE3, since that game should at least explain why Phi is part of VLR, and open up all the things she's not telling anybody.

Too bad Akane's experiences have made her so cold.

Re: [PAL as well!] Virtue's Last Reward: 999 Sequel (3DS/Vit

Fri Feb 15, 2013 2:15 pm

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Fri Feb 15, 2013 2:25 pm

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Re: [PAL as well!] Virtue's Last Reward: 999 Sequel (3DS/Vit

Fri Feb 15, 2013 3:31 pm

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Thank you! ^^

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Re: [PAL as well!] Virtue's Last Reward: 999 Sequel (3DS/Vit

Sat Feb 16, 2013 1:13 am

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This is an incredible game...

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This game is bananas.

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Re: [PAL as well!] Virtue's Last Reward: 999 Sequel (3DS/Vit

Sat Feb 16, 2013 7:59 am

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I actually...

Spoiler: not really a spoiler

But, to be fair, I think that was after I got

Spoiler: spoiler 4 reals

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Sat Feb 16, 2013 10:18 am

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grim_tales wrote:

This is an incredible game...

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This game is bananas.

lol it is such a crazy game. And it's been so long since I played 999 that I can't remember if it's as wacky as VLR but I somehow expect it was.
I think the biggest WTF moment for me in VLR was when...

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Re: [PAL as well!] Virtue's Last Reward: 999 Sequel (3DS/Vit

Sat Feb 16, 2013 7:24 pm

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@grim_tales : Yup, I've 100%-ed it, got all the secret stuff and everything. Which is why I'm asking for your theories, it's fun to compare them to what I came up with as theories during my own playthrough. But obviously, I won't tell you squat, mwahahaha. :)

About the left-most path : that's where my favorite ending lies. I won't tell squat about it, but it's locked, so you won't be able to get it right away.

About the room you got stuck in :

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About your comment on Luna : you and me bro, you and me. Best character in the entire game. She's the best! Don't you DARE chose to betray her, or my ninjas will have a lack of words with ya. :shoe:

But yeah, the game is just so much more massive than 999, much more complex too. It DID take me 54h to complete everything (though I admit I was slower than most people... though I just don't understand how some completed everything in 33h o_O).

About the several endings : yeah, it gets crazy as hell, and you get so many freaking unexplained things before you get explanations...

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As for the 3rd game, it's definitely going to be on 3DS at least. Vita's likely too, since they did release the 2nd game on it (even though they did decide to ''port'' the game before they realised it'd sell like crap, though I'm not sure. It'd definitely p*ss off some fans, so I wouldn't be surprised if they still went with this platform anyway. But yeah, 3DS is 100% guaranteed.

As for whether the game's actually in development, we've got no real idea. I remember Uchikoshi tweeting they're not considering VLR a success yet (but that was about 3 months ago), so that means Chunsoft wasn't quite ready to announce the 3rd game. But I do believe it's likely it's being worked on one way or another. Might be late 2014 imo.

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Would like to answer to the rest of the theories and stuff, but I don't quite have the time atm... Will probably do that later :garyuu:

Re: [PAL as well!] Virtue's Last Reward: 999 Sequel (3DS/Vit

Sat Feb 16, 2013 7:36 pm

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Well I did the

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After my long game I described earlier.. I

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We (thats US/EU) should maybe get VLR (if its localised) around 2015 or so... if you theorised late 2014 as being a Japanese release date...
Damn... I think I am addicted to VLR, its like theres not playing VLR, eating, sleeping, and VLR :D

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Sat Feb 16, 2013 11:32 pm

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I think I'm close to:

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Re: [PAL as well!] Virtue's Last Reward: 999 Sequel (3DS/Vit

Sun Feb 17, 2013 3:01 am

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<snip>

I misread your post. Carry on.

Re: [PAL as well!] Virtue's Last Reward: 999 Sequel (3DS/Vit

Mon Feb 18, 2013 7:04 am

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I'm sorta worried that Zero Escape 3 will be too much of an continuation of VLR.

Spoiler: ZE3

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Mon Feb 18, 2013 10:08 am

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Sixth Pegasus wrote:

I'm sorta worried that Zero Escape 3 will be too much of an continuation of VLR.

Spoiler: ZE3

Good point, part of the appeal of these games is that you don't know who the characters really are, or what their true motivations are etc. But I suppose the events of VLR are left unresolved so maybe they are thinking of this game is more a part 2 of VLR than a game of its own right?

On the other hand...

Spoiler:

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Mon Feb 18, 2013 5:50 pm

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gems_01 wrote:

Sixth Pegasus wrote:

I'm sorta worried that Zero Escape 3 will be too much of an continuation of VLR.

Spoiler: ZE3

Good point, part of the appeal of these games is that you don't know who the characters really are, or what their true motivations are etc. But I suppose the events of VLR are left unresolved so maybe they are thinking of this game is more a part 2 of VLR than a game of its own right?

On the other hand...

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Maybe they're not all participants.

Spoiler:

Re: [PAL as well!] Virtue's Last Reward: 999 Sequel (3DS/Vit

Mon Feb 18, 2013 7:40 pm

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Hey I dont want to be on a downer for ZE3! :p
When I finish however, I'm tempted to follow the director (on Twitter that is!) to see what he may have to say....

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Mon Feb 18, 2013 9:42 pm

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Well I got my first ending:

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Mon Feb 18, 2013 11:39 pm

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Sixth Pegasus wrote:

Maybe they're not all participants.

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That's interesting. I guess since...

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Honestly time travel makes me feel like Gumshoe :eh?:

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Tue Feb 19, 2013 3:52 am

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gems_01 wrote:

Sixth Pegasus wrote:

Maybe they're not all participants.

Spoiler:

That's interesting. I guess since...

Spoiler:

Honestly time travel makes me feel like Gumshoe :eh?:

Spoiler: VLR True End

Re: [PAL as well!] Virtue's Last Reward: 999 Sequel (3DS/Vit

Tue Feb 19, 2013 8:03 am

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blahmoomoo wrote:

gems_01 wrote:

Sixth Pegasus wrote:

Maybe they're not all participants.

Spoiler:

That's interesting. I guess since...

Spoiler:

Honestly time travel makes me feel like Gumshoe :eh?:

Spoiler: VLR True End

Re: [PAL as well!] Virtue's Last Reward: 999 Sequel (3DS/Vit

Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:16 pm

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Sixth Pegasus wrote:

blahmoomoo wrote:

Spoiler: VLR True End

Spoiler:

Re: [PAL as well!] Virtue's Last Reward: 999 Sequel (3DS/Vit

Tue Feb 19, 2013 4:28 pm

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@grim_tales :

Spoiler: Very minor spoilers about darts, you can read safely ;)

Spoiler: About K so far

Spoiler: About your first ending

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About the participants in the 3rd game :

Spoiler: Endings spoilers

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Tue Feb 19, 2013 4:52 pm

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Spoiler: ZE3

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Re: [PAL as well!] Virtue's Last Reward: 999 Sequel (3DS/Vit

Tue Feb 19, 2013 5:36 pm

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@ L-A,

Spoiler:

About K (my thoughts so far):

Spoiler:

Nick and Maya - Friends and Lovers....

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Wed Feb 20, 2013 2:29 am

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grim_tales wrote:

About K (my thoughts so far):

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fix'd with what you should be thinking

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Wed Feb 20, 2013 6:24 am

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Spoiler: ZE3

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Wed Feb 20, 2013 7:43 am

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blahmoomoo wrote:

Spoiler: ZE3

Spoiler: VLR True End

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Wed Feb 20, 2013 7:55 am

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Spoiler: VLR End

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Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:58 pm

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Spoiler: More thoughts

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Sat Feb 23, 2013 11:26 am

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Hey,
I got:

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Sat Feb 23, 2013 12:50 pm

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Tenmyouji theory:

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Sun Feb 24, 2013 6:42 pm

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@grim_tales :

Hmm... no, there's not a set order, but as I've already told you, going left > right (then right > left) allowed me to avoid a lot of locks (I feel that's the way the dev. designed it... sort of :p). That being said, you'll hit lock whatever you do, so it's up to you really.

Spoiler: About the very letmost path

Spoiler: About Betraying, safe for you

Spoiler: Tenmyouji ending

By the way, how far have you gotten so far? :)

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Spoiler: True ending

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Sun Feb 24, 2013 7:15 pm

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L~A wrote:

Spoiler: Tenmyouji ending

Dunno if it's that I've just trolled around with my friends today and I'm in correct mood or something,
but I seriously laughed hard at this one.

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Sun Feb 24, 2013 9:10 pm

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@ LA,

Spoiler:

Also one theme of the game so far seems to be:

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Sun Feb 24, 2013 11:55 pm

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Spoiler: Clover

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Mon Feb 25, 2013 12:05 am

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grim_tales wrote:

Spoiler: Clover

Spoiler: