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Eh the boarding school and juvie approach seems a bit more literal than I'd give it credit. It was probably angled more like metaphorical freedom from the pressures of society knowing the series. Though I'm really glad they ain't skipping a generation and are bringing it out on PS3 (curse you Kingdom Hearts).
It would be a change of pace, and with a juvenile detention centre, there's a confined area, sure, but it's open to some creativity. Of course, the fact that it's still set with school students is a given, but those 'pressures of society' would be a different way to see it, seeing as P4 seemed to have the idea of being glued to your phone and electronics (The anime opening). So I'm sure they'd be going for that kind of approach, only focusing on these societal pressures. Maybe something like giving into peer pressure, and the guilt gives birth to a shadow?
That little teaser is still too little for me to go on, If we could get a name, or a single character's art of silhouette, then that'd spark some more theories.
I'm so glad it's on PS3 as well, that saves me having to buy a new console so soon.
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Eh the boarding school and juvie approach seems a bit more literal than I'd give it credit. It was probably angled more like metaphorical freedom from the pressures of society knowing the series. Though I'm really glad they ain't skipping a generation and are bringing it out on PS3 (curse you Kingdom Hearts).
It would be a change of pace, and with a juvenile detention centre, there's a confined area, sure, but it's open to some creativity. Of course, the fact that it's still set with school students is a given, but those 'pressures of society' would be a different way to see it, seeing as P4 seemed to have the idea of being glued to your phone and electronics (The anime opening). So I'm sure they'd be going for that kind of approach, only focusing on these societal pressures. Maybe something like giving into peer pressure, and the guilt gives birth to a shadow?
That little teaser is still too little for me to go on, If we could get a name, or a single character's art of silhouette, then that'd spark some more theories.
I'm so glad it's on PS3 as well, that saves me having to buy a new console so soon.
Part of me reckons that Red-Haired Menace from P4A:U might turn out to be the one, we've not had a red-haired male protagonist yet and his design certainly stands out.
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we've not had a red-haired male protagonist yet
*cough* Tatsuya *cough*
Granted, that doesn't look full-on red, but it's damn red enough in the game.
Here's a link of various in-game expressions that show his hair being more on the red side.
But it has a spoiler images, I'm guessing.
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we've not had a red-haired male protagonist yet
*cough* Tatsuya *cough*
Granted, that doesn't look full-on red, but it's damn red enough in the game.
Here's a link of various in-game expressions that show his hair being more on the red side.
But it has a spoiler images, I'm guessing.
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Yeah spoiled a bit but hey I wasn't planning on playing it.
Though...in both it still looks pretty definitely brown. It's like
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Personally, I haven't encountered that spoiler yet and I am playing the game.
(I might start anew and make a Blind LP out of this... HO BOY WON'T THAT BE FUN! XD)
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Really, to me, it looks red enough. And I did mention that the other pictures had spoilers in it.
Personally, I haven't encountered that spoiler yet and I am playing the game.
(I might start anew and make a Blind LP out of this... HO BOY WON'T THAT BE FUN! XD)
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Personally, I haven't encountered that spoiler yet and I am playing the game.
(I might start anew and make a Blind LP out of this... HO BOY WON'T THAT BE FUN! XD)
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I went on PSN to see how much P2 is, and it's $43, (P1 is only $15) Ever since I heard that Hitler is in there (I don't know how) I've been curious as to how he even fits in? That just sounds so random and unusual. I should hopefully get a PSN voucher soon, so I'll get a chance to play. (I might start P3P again from the beginning as well, I screwed up my first play.)
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P4A has informed me that I need to become familiar with the main bad of P2.
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P4A has informed me that I need to become familiar with the main bad of P2.
Uh... *why* exactly?
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P4A has informed me that I need to become familiar with the main bad of P2.
Uh... *why* exactly?
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I went on PSN to see how much P2 is, and it's $43, (P1 is only $15) Ever since I heard that Hitler is in there (I don't know how) I've been curious as to how he even fits in?
I think in the localized release - or the PSP updated release - he was... altered? So that he isn't really called Hitler anymore... or something like that. I haven't gotten very far with P2, so I have not met Mr Hitler yet, if he is in there.
Although part of the plot important things is that, in P2, rumors become reality. So... maybe somebody made up a rumor of seeing Hitler and that's how he came into the game? At least, that's the only explanation I can come up with, without having finished the game yet.
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Scent wrote:
In the PSP version's localization, he's named Fuhrer and I think wears some shades, lol.
Haha, because that really makes him look any different.
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Damn. That better be the price for both halves, otherwise I'm waiting for another one of those glorious Atlus sales..
They've had sales? I don't know if they'd still have any for the PSP though, but I'd really hope so! (And it's $43 for Innocent Sin only)
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Spoiler: P4Arena Spoilers
They changed Elizabeth's Arcana? Maybe you are onto something!
Spoiler: P4U2 theory
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On a related note, I'm gonna play me some P3 Fes on my PS3. :]
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On a related note, I'm gonna play me some P3 Fes on my PS3. :]
HOW? I thought PS3's removed that functionality. Or has it been released digitally?
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On a related note, I'm gonna play me some P3 Fes on my PS3. :]
HOW? I thought PS3's removed that functionality. Or has it been released digitally?
The ol' 60gig brick models were backwards compatible but more vulnerable to Yellow Lighting.
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On a related note, I'm gonna play me some P3 Fes on my PS3. :]
HOW? I thought PS3's removed that functionality. Or has it been released digitally?
Uh... Sony has a PSOne and PS2 Classics section, P3 Fes is one of those games... '_'
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On a related note, I'm gonna play me some P3 Fes on my PS3. :]
HOW? I thought PS3's removed that functionality. Or has it been released digitally?
Uh... Sony has a PSOne and PS2 Classics section, P3 Fes is one of those games... '_'
I never saw P3FES (or P3) on PSN (I remember checking at the beginning of the year), and I know PS2 discs don't work on a PS3, so that's why I was surprised you singled out 'PS3' in your post. I already have P3P, so I'll be fine not getting the PS3 version.
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If the Persona Team is going to tie every Persona game together, then they better do it so that "saga" can be given a closure and P5 actually starts presenting something new, fresh and unique.
I like the idea. If they did somthing like a Radiant Mythology or just continuing to bring ancient characters in Arena (or Shadow Q if there is any sequel) the fans will still be pleased. Though I have heard on the net that Arena is a prequel to 5, so I have my doubts.
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Thanks Internet, you've ruined Persona 2, and I just bought it!
Spoiler: Plot related and I think this is an important one too.
Really now, I didn't know that. I knew that the protagonist did something that somehow rendered things WORSE but here's how I read a spoiler...
Spoiler: Persona 2
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PS: If you're further than me, tell me if this game is good Let's Play material? I'm still stuck in the school.
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Thanks Internet, you've ruined Persona 2, and I just bought it!
Spoiler: Plot related and I think this is an important one too.
Really now, I didn't know that. I knew that the protagonist did something that somehow rendered things WORSE but here's how I read a spoiler...
Spoiler: Persona 2
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PS: If you're further than me, tell me if this game is good Let's Play material? I'm still stuck in the school.
I think it's definitely good Let's Play material. Although, all of the frequent battles may have to be cut out at times. If I knew how to record my PSP I would (As I'm going into this game blind as well)
I've finished at Cuss High (So I may be further than you, That's after Seven Sister's High, and before Mu)
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I think it's definitely good Let's Play material. Although, all of the frequent battles may have to be cut out at times. If I knew how to record my PSP I would (As I'm going into this game blind as well)
I've finished at Cuss High (So I may be further than you, That's after Seven Sister's High, and before Mu)
I've finished at Cuss High (So I may be further than you, That's after Seven Sister's High, and before Mu)
Well..... I'm just gonna point out, if I LP Persona 2, I will NOT look forward to editing out those damn battles. The encounter rate is too random and too high for my taste. I'd have to record the episode, watch it and pause every 30 seconds, just to cut out a battle.... and I'm already annoyed at having to edit out random battles in Romancing Saga 3.
I'm in the Sisters' High, I managed to defeat Hanako and got stuck cause some students aren't moving from the teacher's lounge where I have to go. And I know I did the objective of destroying the clocks.
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I think it's definitely good Let's Play material. Although, all of the frequent battles may have to be cut out at times. If I knew how to record my PSP I would (As I'm going into this game blind as well)
I've finished at Cuss High (So I may be further than you, That's after Seven Sister's High, and before Mu)
I've finished at Cuss High (So I may be further than you, That's after Seven Sister's High, and before Mu)
Well..... I'm just gonna point out, if I LP Persona 2, I will NOT look forward to editing out those damn battles. The encounter rate is too random and too high for my taste. I'd have to record the episode, watch it and pause every 30 seconds, just to cut out a battle.... and I'm already annoyed at having to edit out random battles in Romancing Saga 3.
I'm in the Sisters' High, I managed to defeat Hanako and got stuck cause some students aren't moving from the teacher's lounge where I have to go. And I know I did the objective of destroying the clocks.
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Yeah, editing would be real annoying.
Have you broken the clocks in the teacher's lounge? Or just in the classrooms? If not yet, then you need to break all of the clocks in each accessible classroom (there's only one clock in each room too), then you should be able to enter.
Spoiler: Locations of clocks
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I got a scene telling me I destroyed all the clocks and need to go to the teacher's lounge. *shrug*
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Oh, I didn't have that issue of them not moving from the door. Did you speak to the teachers outside the lounge? I remember when you enter the lounge, you need to talk to Ms. Saeko and she'll give you permission to destroy the clocks in the teacher's lounge.
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So, yeah, Persona 3 Portable is better than Persona 3 FES. Pretty much 2 different games. The music is good too.
I wouldn't call it 2 different games... wait, no, I would. VN style does not work for Persona games...
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So, yeah, Persona 3 Portable is better than Persona 3 FES. Pretty much 2 different games. The music is good too.
I wouldn't call it 2 different games... wait, no, I would. VN style does not work for Persona games...
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VN?
Anyway, well, a lot of things change between the Male and Female stories.
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That's to be expected; a number of the Social Links are romantic in that game, so you need to alter/replace some of them. If the male PC can be a womanizer, then it's only fair that the female PC be able to be a... manizer? Gah... What's a female equivalent of "womanizer" that carries with it no more negative of a connotation?
Hold up now, you're saying "womanizer" doesn't carry negative connotations as well? I've always thought it did. There's not really many neutral or positive terms for promiscuity.
Unfortunately Persona 3 doesn't give you much options about that if you wanna do well with social links.
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builderkid107 wrote:
So, yeah, Persona 3 Portable is better than Persona 3 FES. Pretty much 2 different games. The music is good too.
I wouldn't call it 2 different games... wait, no, I would. VN style does not work for Persona games...
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VN?
Anyway, well, a lot of things change between the Male and Female stories.
also i don't recall the extra content from fes in the portable version...so...yea :P
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also i don't recall the extra content from fes in the portable version...so...yea :P
Nope, I don't think it is. But, if you're a female, someone takes a picture of you in your gym uniform...yay?
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Hold up now, you're saying "womanizer" doesn't carry negative connotations as well? I've always thought it did. There's not really many neutral or positive terms for promiscuity.
No more negative of a connotation, Monsieur Pierre. Make a mental list of words for promiscuous males and words for promiscuous females. I don't think of promiscuity as a good thing with either gender, but the words dealing female promiscuity generally strike me as much harsher.
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Unfortunately Persona 3 doesn't give you much options about that if you wanna do well with social links.
This is the main reason why I asked for Persona 4 for Christmas instead of Persona 3. They might just be video game characters, but I can't bring myself to cheat on them. I just picture how they would react if they found out, and the mere thought leaves me feeling like a horrible person for even wondering about it.
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Hold up now, you're saying "womanizer" doesn't carry negative connotations as well? I've always thought it did. There's not really many neutral or positive terms for promiscuity.
[b]No more negative[b] of a connotation, Monsieur Pierre. Make a mental list of words for promiscuous males and words for promiscuous females. I don't think of promiscuity as a good thing with either gender, but the words dealing female promiscuity generally strike me as much harsher.
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Unfortunately Persona 3 doesn't give you much options about that if you wanna do well with social links.
This is the main reason why I asked for Persona 4 for Christmas instead of Persona 3. They might just be video game characters, but I can't bring myself to cheat on them. I just picture how they would react if they found out, and the mere thought leaves me feeling like a horrible person for even wondering about it.
I think there's only one way to get found out in Persona 4, least that I've seen. Persona 3 will downright punish you easily but on a random date with Ai in Persona 4 I think Yukiko walks by if you are dating her and is like "What the hell is this?!"
Sadly she proves herself very dumb as you can just convince her she's overreacting.
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Still, it did kind of bother me that you can't really be found out in that game. Do people just not talk about their love lives in Japan? I have trouble believing you could cheat on Yukiko with Chie (i. e. her best friend) and not be found out within days--and given how openly Rise flirts with the PC, I doubt she'd ever keep quiet about a relationship with him, either. I understand Persona 4 Golden has a scene in which you are sort of punished for cheating if you do so, but all the girls do in said scene is voice their suspicions at the most. I hope they take it farther in Persona 5 and go the extra mile to really twist the knife. Try to picture Yukiko or another love interest confronting you over your disloyalty and breaking down crying as she does so. That's the kind of thing I want to see in Persona 5. Social Link penalties could be circumvented in Persona 3 if you played your cards right. Being forced to see how you've hurt someone, on the other hand...
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I never said I expected Persona 4 to make it possible to be found out. The mere thought of how my character's girlfriend would react if she found out is enough to deter me.
Still, it did kind of bother me that you can't really be found out in that game. Do people just not talk about their love lives in Japan? I have trouble believing you could cheat on Yukiko with Chie (i. e. her best friend) and not be found out within days--and given how openly Rise flirts with the PC, I doubt she'd ever keep quiet about a relationship with him, either. I understand Persona 4 Golden has a scene in which you are sort of punished for cheating if you do so, but all the girls do in said scene is voice their suspicions at the most. I hope they take it farther in Persona 5 and go the extra mile to really twist the knife. Try to picture Yukiko or another love interest confronting you over your disloyalty and breaking down crying as she does so. That's the kind of thing I want to see in Persona 5. Social Link penalties could be circumvented in Persona 3 if you played your cards right. Being forced to see how you've hurt someone, on the other hand...
Still, it did kind of bother me that you can't really be found out in that game. Do people just not talk about their love lives in Japan? I have trouble believing you could cheat on Yukiko with Chie (i. e. her best friend) and not be found out within days--and given how openly Rise flirts with the PC, I doubt she'd ever keep quiet about a relationship with him, either. I understand Persona 4 Golden has a scene in which you are sort of punished for cheating if you do so, but all the girls do in said scene is voice their suspicions at the most. I hope they take it farther in Persona 5 and go the extra mile to really twist the knife. Try to picture Yukiko or another love interest confronting you over your disloyalty and breaking down crying as she does so. That's the kind of thing I want to see in Persona 5. Social Link penalties could be circumvented in Persona 3 if you played your cards right. Being forced to see how you've hurt someone, on the other hand...
What does PC stand for?
Anyway, yeah, that'd be an interesting mechanic...but I don't think it would work, because most characters are integral to the plot, so cheating on them so that they're super depressed wouldn't transfer over to the story.
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