"You see when a mommy nobodie and a daddy nobodie love each other Very very much..."

Of course one could argue the exact opposite beyond the point that Nobodies cant reproduce.

Perhaps all Nobodies do besides search for ways to be whole again, is release pent up anger and fear through sex. *shrugs*

but I have to agree with Caelestis (who has an Awsome sig btw) that we're reading too much into it.

All the organization seems capable of thinking of, or doing is trying to become whole again no matter the cost.

Also, "Maybe it would be batter if I explained I'm not homosexual" "Well neither are they, you've got to be human first, they don't qualify" Shawshank Redemption.

Because the Organization are not techincally beings of gender or race but simply shadows shaped as humans, they cant be homosexual, bisexual, or even straight.

Now... Let's talk about funny KH videos! There is a good series called "Kingdom Hearts on crack"

Hm, it's an interesting theory (Axel being Riku's nobody) but I guess I'll have to wait to see concrete proof before I can really say anything. I mean, why doesn't Axel have a keyblade?

I'm interested in Xion, myself. I mean, we don't know where she came from, other than she looks like Kairi. However, I noticed that she looks more like younger Kairi than older Kairi.

Namine looks more like KH2 Kairi while Xion looks more like KH1 Kairi. Do you think this is on purpose? I thought it was interesting.

Ansem's Secret Reports tell that Namine and Roxas don't retain any memories from their as Somebodies as they would normally. This is because when they became Heartless they one way or another got their hearts back swiftly. Here's how:

Kairi + turning into Heartless / makes Xion = Puts her heart in Sora's body. = Xion has no memories.
Sora + takes keyblade to himself / makes Namine = Returns Kairi's heart to her body. = Namine has no memories.
Sora + takes keyblade to himself unlocking his heart freely / makes Roxas. = Kairi returns his heart to him somehow. = Roxas has no memories.

Now during the naming ceremony, the probably just ask what your name was and put an X in it. Now what if Axel just showed up and he had no idea what his name was because:

Riku + Gives himself freely into the darkness / Makes Axel. = Is able to get his heart back due to not fearing the darkness.=Axel has no memories.

358/2 is out so



So yeah I think this will change this topic greatly.

Hm, it's an interesting theory (Axel being Riku's nobody) but I guess I'll have to wait to see concrete proof before I can really say anything. I mean, why doesn't Axel have a keyblade?

Wicked.

So yeah that, and Kingdom Hearts in general, is awsome.

Man I dressed up as Roxas halloween one year (does that make me a cosplayer?). He's my favorite charactor. I don't think he's gay or bi, I just think he's strait. I don't mind people who think like that I just want to get that out because I don't want people here thinking I'm gay.

i think it will be pretty hard to determine wheteher hes gay or not especialy considering roxas doesnt even know what love is.

I think it is stated in the game that nobodies have no emotion, thus they can't feel love or sexual satisfaction. So I think most nobody pairings are just a baseless way for people to make fanfics. I don't like ANY KH pairings. Sora and Riku seems to be ridiculously popular in the KH fandom but I think they have a bromance, their not gay.

I'm glad that we have another board for other video games cause all this Phoenix Wright sure makes a guy miss the games he used to love... one of my all time favorites is Kingdom Hearts.

Now its about 6 am on a Friday morning... I've had way to much chocolate and cant sleep so I decided to convert my left over energy into a rant here on CR about Square Enix's newest chain of games being released under the Kingdom Hearts title.

Hopefully people will have comments and additions and the rant will go on and on and on.

First on the docket: Kingdom Hearts 365/2 days.

The untold story of Roxas... forgive me for not leaping for joy, but I couldn't stand the kid... Honestly, how they managed to make a character more depressing than Riku I'll never know but that being said I do want to play this game. (Yes mostly because I'm a kingdom hearts freak, I'd probably buy underwear if it was related in some way! but also because) There is a character named Xion. Backwards her name is No IX which is number 9 in roman numerals. Of course numero 9 in the organization is Demyx which makes this clue useless. Her name isn't the part that's interesting though... Its her striking resemblance to Kairi.


Of course lefts take into account that Kairi is a Princess of Heart. That being said, it could be true that this is sufficent enough two cause her to create two very separate Nobodies. I think I read in an Ansem's report somewhere (might have been in the KH2 final mix.) that the stronger the person's heart the more their Nobody resembles them. hich means that because both Nobodies resemble Kairi, it is highly possible that they were created by the strength of a princess' of hearts heart.... (with me so far?..)

Here look at this diagram:

get it?

Beyond that the story seems to be you, Xion and Axel and various Org. XIII members searching for something, oh did I mention you have to go to a bunch of worlds that Sora went too? So basically, its Kingdom Hearts with Roxas and Riku is the bad guy...(again...)

Next I want to rant about Kingdom hearts coded for the mobile phone. Now a game for Kingdom hearts forced me to buy a gameboy advanced in order to play it. However it wasn't just a puzzle game that never ends. The story is Riku and Diz are testing their computer program for Roxas. Now your a CG Sora in CG world. Whoopie!

Lastly Birth by Sleep, which has made enough Kingdom Hearts fans lose sleep.

I (apparently >.>) am no exception. As I have spent hours on end trying to decipher, just what the hell is going on, we are inundated with screenshots from Japanese magazines, with no real answer as to what is the story or connections with the original plot. As far as I can tell the traveling duo of Ven, Aqua, and Terran are trying to stop or start something... Now the only speculation I have is that something is threatening the Princesses of Hearts. Why? Because the newest array of worlds available in BBS is irronically the places where princesses such as, Aurora, Snow White, and Cinderella. So my guess is they travel to all these places to protect the princesses, and accidentally set in motion the events of Kingdom Hearts 1. How? by creating the Heartless. The creatures in BBS are not Heartless nor are the Nobodies, however, in an interview somebody slipped that the baddies split into two new foes.

Care to hazard a guess anyone?

Thats all the theories I have for now... Remember. According to Kairi's grandmother, the worlds used to be together. Its possible that eventually in the series they will be again. Until it happens, Kingdom Hearts may never end.

So, I stumbled upon this looking for a picture of Kairi's keyblade lol
And I think you guys have some really good theories!!
And now for a theory of my own...

This is easily explainable if you look at this...

Following the "rules" set by this theory, it would make sense than Xion looks like younger Kairi and Namine looks like older Kairi.
Xion was created first, giving her a younger appearance than Namine who was created second.
Also, Namine was created using both Sora and Kairi, so that may have something to do with her looking older as well.

This is very true, but answer me this. When was the last time you saw Riku smile like this?

But in all seriousness, I do think Riku's Nobody is Axel because I always go back to what is said in the (real) Ansem reports.





Riku gave his heart freely to the darkness, but as he states in Kingdom Hearts Chain of Memories. He was still afraid. His heart wasn't strong enough to make a Nobody that resembled him in anyway except in his eyes and mannerisms.

and secondly there is no proof to the fact that the other Nobodies look anything like their former selves. Xemnas, Roxas, and Namine are the only ones we know that look anything like their former selves, but 3 out of 14 isn't good odds.



Well actually, that news just came out and I jumped on it :P



Ansem (the real one) said that strong heartless are born with their hearts when they give themselves over freely to darkness. Xahanort retained his human for as a heartless, as did Sora and Kairi. So when Riku gave himself up to the darkness he retained his heart but the fear of the darkness even for a split second caused his Nobodie to be drastically different.



I got back to the drasiically different but its my only proof... Perhaps its because Riku had more of Xahanort's heartless in him that caused Axel to be a different age than Riku, possibly the circumstances of Axel's birth ar ethe same as Namine's. A bit of both Riku's and Xahanort's hearts created Axel.

Other than that all I have to say is, Nobodies don't age. It's possible that Axel was born older because it was a sign of when Riku's heart would have been strong enough. Ergo weilding a keyblade.

Xion - A copy of a nobody. (No. I) Number 1 plus an X. Ansem the Wise created her to control some of Sora's thoughts while in the slumber pod.