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Oh how I envy Max's early copy of Ultimate Marvel. Here's a video of him playing some Phoenix.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgBghxQ5ZWE
I also noticed that Nick's cornered theme starts playing even though he's not in Turnabout mode. Sweet!
Ghost Rider's Penance Stare with Cornered in the background was pretty awesome.
Also, dat win quote against Firebrand.
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Blak The Great wrote:
Oh how I envy Max's early copy of Ultimate Marvel. Here's a video of him playing some Phoenix.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgBghxQ5ZWE
I also noticed that Nick's cornered theme starts playing even though he's not in Turnabout mode. Sweet!
Ghost Rider's Penance Stare with Cornered in the background was pretty awesome.
Also, dat win quote against Firebrand.


I don't think that turnabout tune was supposed to play out that way think it was edited in. After all why would it play outside of turnabout mode and in my experience the music only changes when a character is knocked out and then the tune of the next warrior entering the battlefield is played.

Though was concerned the turnabout mode was going to waste there for a moment

Edit: Yeah I'm pretty sure the music is separate of gameplay there as Hawkeye's theme is playing and he's nowhere to be seen.

You probably can activate turnabout mode and swap out to leave the buffs on Phoenix and keep the music going indefinitely.

Also in other news...my lord ALL of Firebrands health just destroyed by that X factor Level 3 :beef:
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Pierre wrote:
Blak The Great wrote:
Oh how I envy Max's early copy of Ultimate Marvel. Here's a video of him playing some Phoenix.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgBghxQ5ZWE
I also noticed that Nick's cornered theme starts playing even though he's not in Turnabout mode. Sweet!
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Also, dat win quote against Firebrand.


I don't think that turnabout tune was supposed to play out that way think it was edited in. After all why would it play outside of turnabout mode and in my experience the music only changes when a character is knocked out and then the tune of the next warrior entering the battlefield is played.

Though was concerned the turnabout mode was going to waste there for a moment

Edit: Yeah I'm pretty sure the music is separate of gameplay there as Hawkeye's theme is playing and he's nowhere to be seen.

You probably can activate turnabout mode and swap out to leave the buffs on Phoenix and keep the music going indefinitely.

Also in other news...my lord ALL of Firebrands health just destroyed by that X factor Level 3 :beef:


Yeah you're probably right, the first Marvel madness video lacked the characters' voices so it's edited it in.
Firebrand's level 3 was really scary, it was quite lucky that Max x-factored and used his level 3.
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Blak The Great wrote:
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Oh how I envy Max's early copy of Ultimate Marvel. Here's a video of him playing some Phoenix.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgBghxQ5ZWE
I also noticed that Nick's cornered theme starts playing even though he's not in Turnabout mode. Sweet!
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Also, dat win quote against Firebrand.


I don't think that turnabout tune was supposed to play out that way think it was edited in. After all why would it play outside of turnabout mode and in my experience the music only changes when a character is knocked out and then the tune of the next warrior entering the battlefield is played.

Though was concerned the turnabout mode was going to waste there for a moment

Edit: Yeah I'm pretty sure the music is separate of gameplay there as Hawkeye's theme is playing and he's nowhere to be seen.

You probably can activate turnabout mode and swap out to leave the buffs on Phoenix and keep the music going indefinitely.

Also in other news...my lord ALL of Firebrands health just destroyed by that X factor Level 3 :beef:


Yeah you're probably right, the first Marvel madness video lacked the characters' voices so it's edited it in.
Firebrand's level 3 was really scary, it was quite lucky that Max x-factored and used his level 3.


What was it just a clone? It looked similar to that one of Felicia's where she summons a little helper which makes me wonder...

Is it really worth a level 3?
Also Firebrand can't block while flying so....
Plenty of chances for Phoenix to land him in court.
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Firebrand's level 3 is incredibly nasty, worse so than Felicia's helper. It leads to ambiguous cross-ups and the immense amount of pressure that it puts on you is pretty brutal. When I said Max was lucky to land it, I meant that he was lucky he didn't get hit by either Firebrand's helper or Firebrand himself. Phoenix was stuck in the corner being chipped to death and he had a sliver of health left. One mistake and he would've died.
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This was by far my favorite Assist Me. (And it TOTALLY isn't because it's Nick's)
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This was by far my favorite Assist Me. (And it TOTALLY isn't because it's Nick's)


Hehe yeah shame everyone has trouble getting Nick's hair right.
It demonstrated the FATAL FINGER which looks like a must-have for victory...unless you just use Maya to punch the crap out of them.
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This was by far my favorite Assist Me. (And it TOTALLY isn't because it's Nick's)


Hehe yeah shame everyone has trouble getting Nick's hair right.
It demonstrated the FATAL FINGER which looks like a must-have for victory...unless you just use Maya to punch the crap out of them.

I now have an urge to, when I get this, spam Maya body slams at my opponents.
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Frank West and Rocket Raccoon were revealed today. Yay!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRiT9JRPU_o Frank
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnZFxsZHxTM Rocket
Both look really promising characters, I think I might put Frank in my Phoenix team.
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Frank...meh his level up mechanic I'm curious as to how it works but I don't think I saw a level 3 hyper combo...ah well everyone can't get one I suppose. Though DAT victory animation is one of the funniest I've seen.

Also Rocket Raccoon...is he Australian? His love of traps and grittiness looks kinda awesome XD
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Frank looks a whole lot better than his TVC counterpart, I'm kinda sad that he lost his Real Megabuster hyper but now that 's just gonna add to the Megaman conspiracy theories. His level metagame just kinda reminds of Phoenix, cept his damage doesn't get jacked to ridiculous proportions.

As for Rocket Raccoon, his traps are really nasty. Especially when he baited Akuma into dodging his guns by jumping only to have a giant swing log smack him in the face. I'm not sure if he's Australian, I think he's speaking in a cockney British accent. Also, his level 3 is pretty badass and kinda reminds of Snake's Final Smash.
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Yeah Rocket Raccoon isn't the cute ball of fuzz I'd imagined.

Though you're thinking the fact Frank doesn't have the Megabuster means X/Megaman will show up outta nowhere with it?
By this point I'm sick of the hatred the Megaman fans are giving Phoenix so I kinda hope Capcom just leaves Megaman out.
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I hate Megaman fans in general. They're the same bunch of self-entitled brats who constantly whine about not having the same roster from MvC2, what's worse is that some of those haters are no on the bandwagon in favor of Phoenix and Rocket. It's bollocks I tells ya and I'm hoping that if Capcom does go the DLC route, they're in packs and not single priced characters like $5 each for Jill and Shuma.
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I hate Megaman fans in general. They're the same bunch of self-entitled brats who constantly whine about not having the same roster from MvC2, what's worse is that some of those haters are no on the bandwagon in favor of Phoenix and Rocket. It's bollocks I tells ya and I'm hoping that if Capcom does go the DLC route, they're in packs and not single priced characters like $5 each for Jill and Shuma.


Are "No on"? That makes sense for haters.

I'm thinking it won't even be DLC and it'll just be a super secret release.
What bothers me is that even if Megaman does show up in some form I don't think they'll all let go of their hatred for Phoenix.
If he's DLC it's a must they'll blame Phoenix for making them pay extra for their 'beloved' Megaman.
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Curses, one spelling mistake. *Now on*
Probably another Street Fighter Arcade Edition-like update, I'm fine with that business model since that means paying 15 bucks instead of another 40. Let's just hope that it's not exactly like AE with 2 copy pasted characters (Evil Ryu and Oni) and then 2 god tier characters (Yun and Yang). Nitsuma did say he wanted 8 more characters after all... hopefully we get them, and hopefully out of the four Capcom characters it'll be MM and Gene so everyone can quit their whining.

But then again, Marvel's business model isn't to please the fans it's to promote upcoming projects (Which is completely understandable, they are a company after all) so they won't put in characters like Gambit and Venom. Marvel vs Capcom just has a huge hating audience coming from all the casual players who only played MvC 2 back in the day.

Also, these pictures are so sexy right now.
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Yeah they are nice apart from all the Ryu in them.

I certainly wouldn't mind seeing Gene in the game, still holding out for God Hand to get released on the PSN over here like it was in America. Though it's a shame Gambit isn't in the game, possibly my favourite of the Marvel universe folks.
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I have never played God Hand, and I don't own a PS3 so I don't know how Gene plays. But I've heard nothing but zaniness from theories for his playstyle. Spanking? That would be so Mahvel.
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Yeah XD It's apparently hilarious but it was on PS2 first.

XP Went back to MVC3 lord I hate Zoning.
Destroyed a dude's Chun Li and hit his Sentinel with Deadpools Level 3 Hyper.

So he retreats to the corner and Mouth beams me to death.
Ugh just can't deal with these guys.
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You could've jumped up and spammed Deadpool's bullets. He's a zoning character too don't ya know. Teleport that can be done in the air is a good way to get in on zoners.
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You could've jumped up and spammed Deadpool's bullets. He's a zoning character too don't ya know. Teleport that can be done in the air is a good way to get in on zoners.


Think I tried but *panic* *lag* *other reason* the command didn't pull off and I just made a feeble attack that left me open to the beam.
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Sounds like you really hate zoners, especially lame ones like Sentinel's Heavy attack (laser mouth). My counter to zoners is gonna be Dr. Strange, I'll fly around and cast Glyphs, teleport with the fireball crumple setups. If they think of zoning me to death, they're going to have a nice taste of his nifty projectile counter :will:
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Yeah but I can't rely on forcing a character in my team just because he has a nifty hyper counter. Sure Taskmaster has a projectile counter but meh Zoners I struggle to deal with and when I lose to em it always feels cheap. There's been times where I've beat my friends down to the last character only to die to Zero's sword beam, Magneto's disrupter, Chris' FREAKING MAGNUM etc etc.


Also with Frank did the trailer indicate that he has a Hyper...Hyper counter a Hyper Projectile counter or that that Weapon assault hyper has ridiculous invincibility frames to dash to the opponent?
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His weapon assault hyper has ridiculous frames of invincibility, it's kinda like X-23's.
Well if you don't like forcing characters onto your team maybe you should just tier whore and pick top tier characters! Just kidding, just find whichever characters works for ya in those situations.

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Blak The Great wrote:
His weapon assault hyper has ridiculous frames of invincibility, it's kinda like X-23's.
Well if you don't like forcing characters onto your team maybe you should just tier whore and pick top tier characters! Just kidding, just find whichever characters works for ya in those situations.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=p8qwNZvAvBE
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Ugh ridiculous frames of invincibility...how irritating.
And yeah I tend to just pick folks though does Wesker have a projectile counter in that little....counterstance of his.

What is top tier in Marvel Vs Capcom 3 anyway? I saw lots of Chun Li online the other day?
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Ugh ridiculous frames of invincibility...how irritating.
And yeah I tend to just pick folks though does Wesker have a projectile counter in that little....counterstance of his.

What is top tier in Marvel Vs Capcom 3 anyway? I saw lots of Chun Li online the other day?


:D Frank West is awesome.
Wesker does have a projectile counter, but it's tricky to land since it the animation lasts just a few frames whereas Taskmaster's counter lasts quite longer than Wesker's. Wesker's counter though turns into a teleport into a launcher so it's useful in some scenarios once you land it.

As for tiers, Chun-Li isn't very high. Top tier in Marvel would be characters like Wesker, Wolverine, Phoenix, Magneto, Akuma is pretty high up there, and Dante to name off the top of my head. The factors in tiers rely on how fast they can do damage and how easy to execute a combo to kill a character. That's why you'll mainly see those characters in Tournament streams.

So basically top tier= characters that can kill really really quickly.

So if I were to rank Nick tier wise in Ultimate, I would place him about mid-tier. His normals aren't very good, his damage when he's normal Nick is average, he's not a rushdown monster since his movement speed is pretty average ,and his strategy revolves around assists that cover him while gathering evidence. But his damage as Turnabout Nick is monstrous and his pointer finger turns into an enhanced version of Haggar's pipe which is extremely dangerous. Nick is a risky character to play, but if you play him right his reward is well worth it.
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Shameless bump: Phoenix Wright's go-to assist is going to be Press the Witness. When you get Nick to Turnabout mode, he becomes fully invincible during the assist and he causes a wall-bounce on the last hit. Aww yeah. More broken than Haggar and Tron.
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Shameless bump: Phoenix Wright's go-to assist is going to be Press the Witness. When you get Nick to Turnabout mode, he becomes fully invincible during the assist and he causes a wall-bounce on the last hit. Aww yeah. More broken than Haggar and Tron.


Aww man full invincibility?! On one of his coolest moves?

Sorry Missile XD
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Max's last episode of Ultimate Assist Me is up.
Today we learn how to infect others with rabies and take purdy pictures.
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Max's last episode of Ultimate Assist Me is up.
Today we learn how to infect others with rabies and take purdy pictures.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zWn_RFJ8Ag&feature=feedu


Hahaha was quite a joke about PUPPETS.......of Galactus.

Anyway Rocket Raccoon's low health puts me off a bit. I can barely stand to use Phoenix because of how low hers is so maybe I'll use Frank instead of Rocket....but then again he looks like he takes a lot of effort to level up high.
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Blak The Great wrote:
Shameless bump: Phoenix Wright's go-to assist is going to be Press the Witness. When you get Nick to Turnabout mode, he becomes fully invincible during the assist and he causes a wall-bounce on the last hit. Aww yeah. More broken than Haggar and Tron.

Aww yeah, indeed. I love how all Nick's moves look. Especially Press the Witness. Although, when he's in Turnabout Mode, he keeps the long-range Paperwork, right? That may be what I use, instead.
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Reyson Incarnate wrote:
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Shameless bump: Phoenix Wright's go-to assist is going to be Press the Witness. When you get Nick to Turnabout mode, he becomes fully invincible during the assist and he causes a wall-bounce on the last hit. Aww yeah. More broken than Haggar and Tron.

Aww yeah, indeed. I love how all Nick's moves look. Especially Press the Witness. Although, when he's in Turnabout Mode, he keeps the long-range Paperwork, right? That may be what I use, instead.


Yeah Paperwork in Turnabout mode saturates the screen. I may have to see that in action to decide whether or not I'll use it. Just a few more days, hopefully I don't have an aneurism in the mean time. Though I did survive the months of hype for character reveals, think I can last a few more days.

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So someone with an early copy was playing around in the character viewer and he noticed that Jill and Shuma have their Alts unlocked already. Aww yeah, dat Shuma is so awesome. Though I wish alts got alternate colors too...
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So after looking at all the Alts that were released/leaked/whatever, I guess they can change the character into an entirely different character. Most noticeable is Zero/MMX, which is pretty hilarious and sad at the same time. Still, an Apollo Alt would be dumb.

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Hahahaha oh man Megaman X is in the game XD Technically.

I imagine that's gonna stir up some hate...must...go..find...pissed off fans.

Was still hoping for Hobo but we still don't know what Maya looks like, I can't imagine they'd leave her alone when his standard alt swaps change her as well.
Dahlia would be a shoe-in for Feenie but can you imagine Dahlia doing that stuff? Or throwing confetti for that matter?
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Hahahaha oh man Megaman X is in the game XD Technically.

I imagine that's gonna stir up some hate...must...go..find...pissed off fans.

Was still hoping for Hobo but we still don't know what Maya looks like, I can't imagine they'd leave her alone when his standard alt swaps change her as well.
Dahlia would be a shoe-in for Feenie but can you imagine Dahlia doing that stuff? Or throwing confetti for that matter?


Well it could technically be Iris since Dahlia and Nick only met twice.
The costumes are pretty sick, but I'm sad since I really like a lot of them and I kinda want to own them all... damn you Capcom, why can't you package them in the game!
Now I need to decide what team works for me and adorn them with outfits accordingly :yuusaku:
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Hahahaha oh man Megaman X is in the game XD Technically.

I imagine that's gonna stir up some hate...must...go..find...pissed off fans.

Was still hoping for Hobo but we still don't know what Maya looks like, I can't imagine they'd leave her alone when his standard alt swaps change her as well.
Dahlia would be a shoe-in for Feenie but can you imagine Dahlia doing that stuff? Or throwing confetti for that matter?


Well it could technically be Iris since Dahlia and Nick only met twice.
The costumes are pretty sick, but I'm sad since I really like a lot of them and I kinda want to own them all... damn you Capcom, why can't you package them in the game!
Now I need to decide what team works for me and adorn them with outfits accordingly :yuusaku:


Well I don't think Phoenix's outfit is enough to sway me to buy his DLC
maybe if it was hobo nick....but nah I'll just stick with Sissel!Nick
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I quite like the Feenie outfit! Although, I wish there was a Hobo Nick!
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Well I don't think Phoenix's outfit is enough to sway me to buy his DLC
maybe if it was hobo nick....but nah I'll just stick with Sissel!Nick


Good thing they're sold in packs. Here's hoping he's packaged with Dormammu, Frank, Ghostrider or Taskie.
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I dunno I can't really see a good quality image of Taskie's to know if I like his DLC outfit, especially considering it removed one of regular outfits I liked.
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I dunno I can't really see a good quality image of Taskie's to know if I like his DLC outfit, especially considering it removed one of regular outfits I liked.


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I dunno I can't really see a good quality image of Taskie's to know if I like his DLC outfit, especially considering it removed one of regular outfits I liked.


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Taskmaster's Udon outfit is pretty sick. I'd buy it and pick him up.


Aww man that mask way outdoes his standard one.

What is UDON though?
I didn't even know who Taskmaster was before MVC3
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