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Walter White wrote:
Could it also be because you spoiled it a lot from wiki and from my avatars and talking about it :yogi:


Maybe it's Maybelline.

or

We could blame it on the bossa nova.

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something else kinda funny and referential.
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genodragon1 wrote:
Walter White wrote:
Could it also be because you spoiled it a lot from wiki and from my avatars and talking about it :yogi:


Maybe it's Maybelline.

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We could blame it on the bossa nova.

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something else kinda funny and referential.


I understood none of those references except for Maybelline :sillytrucy:
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Could it also be because you spoiled it a lot from wiki and from my avatars and talking about it :yogi:


For the last fucking time, No. :ron:

Also, it doesn't matter if you read spoilers for DR, because the game is so obvious in how it'll go in what direction and exactly why it will do so. Reading a spoiler is barely any different from playing the game yourself and predicting it before it even happens.

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Could it also be because you spoiled it a lot from wiki and from my avatars and talking about it :yogi:


For the last fucking time, No. :ron:

Also, it doesn't matter if you read spoilers for DR, because the game is so obvious in how it'll go in what direction and exactly why it will do so. Reading a spoiler is barely any different from playing the game yourself and predicting it before it even happens.

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In some cases, the outcome was obvious to me. In others, not so much. The game has my suspension of disbelief locked up tight for some reason, so I'm not always in analysis mode, like I am with most of the media I consume.
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Obviously the outcome is gonna be easier for you to figure out because you have the outcome already in your head from the wiki so it's easier to analyze it easier when you already have the outcome in mind.
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Obviously the outcome is gonna be easier for you to figure out because you have the outcome already in your head from the wiki so it's easier to analyze it easier when you already have the outcome in mind.


Please. Stop. This argument really has gone on too far, and it doesn't really matter anyway.

But that wasn't the case with me, I just called the mastermind of the sequel before I knew of the sequel. Some murders seemed more obvious than others, though I liked some of the curve balls thrown.
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genodragon1 wrote:
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Obviously the outcome is gonna be easier for you to figure out because you have the outcome already in your head from the wiki so it's easier to analyze it easier when you already have the outcome in mind.


Please. Stop. This argument really has gone on too far, and it doesn't really matter anyway.

But that wasn't the case with me, I just called the mastermind of the sequel before I knew of the sequel. Some murders seemed more obvious than others, though I liked some of the curve balls thrown.


It's because she won't admit it that is why I keep with the argument :yogi:

Same for me. I spoiled each outcome in the chapters but I still get stumped by the method of each murder and how it was all carried out like the one example I gave earlier that I got right by luck *Komaeda pose*
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Yeah, but you don't really get much for winning the argument. Pick your battles, man. The only reason I'm interjecting at all is because this has long grown tiresome. And I'm fairly sure all you're really doing is ticking off Cat Muto to the point where she either leaves or will fake admission just to get you to hush up, which would be a hollow victory, non?

Well, I didn't spoil myself like that. I watched the entirety of translation LP's back when I thought there wasn't going to be any western ports.
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It's because she won't admit it that is why I keep with the argument :yogi:


I admit that I used a goddamn motherfucking wiki to help me with some parts in Super Danganronpa 2 cause I had difficulty with the furigana-less fucking Kanji. But I did not use a fucking Wiki on Danganronpa. That was blind. The only thing I knew the fucking game before I started was A) everyone saying how awesome it is, B) your stupid avatars that only spoiled ONE character, and that was a stupid "spoiler" because the game is not very good at hiding the whole

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thing. Everything else in that stupid game was all figured out by moi. Me. Myself. And I. If you fail at figuring out the most obvious things that the game practically hits you over the head with, that's your fault. And by god, it makes you think a mediocre game is actually amazing, when it really is nothing but a fuck easy game of clue where you're practically given every potential murder weapon but only one has a ton of blood on it, making it easy to figure out what was used.

Yeah, so you had an avatar of the mastermind at times. So? You think I noticed that? Or even figured out from an avatar that looks like it could taken place in any location of the fucking game who that character was or everything in context of that fucking scene? No. Seeing a spoiler, in image or word, doesn't necessarily spoil everything. You always lack context, unless the spoiler flat out reveals everything in terms of how, who, what, why and when.

Now stop. Fucking. Mentioning. The fucking wiki. If you do, I swear to God, I will try to figure out how to send you a stupid virus. :fire:

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PS: And to be quite fucking honest here, I don't recall denying that I used a guide for help in SDR2 at times, anyway. You're the one who says I used it for DR. Which I didn't.
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Yay we can finally stop arguing~

... >_> I hope you think that was worth it, because I don't.

Anyway, uh... subject change!

Anyone know how to fix someone to having full affection in Class Life in DR1? I get their special scene, but that doesn't unlock the 51st day wherein I'm supposed to lock things in.
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Yay we can finally stop arguing~

... >_> I hope you think that was worth it, because I don't.

Anyway, uh... subject change!

Anyone know how to fix someone to having full affection in Class Life in DR1? I get their special scene, but that doesn't unlock the 51st day wherein I'm supposed to lock things in.


Ehhh for now since I'm too busy at work to refute her lies xP

That's easy. You basically need to use the tickets Monokuma gives you to invite them anywhere. The tricky part is knowing what answer gives you the best result when your given the choice to what question to ask and the biggest thing is picking the right area to invite each character. It requires multiple playthroughs to get all of them at full affection. It took me 4 with the right strategy.

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Walter White wrote:
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Yay we can finally stop arguing~

... >_> I hope you think that was worth it, because I don't.

Anyway, uh... subject change!

Anyone know how to fix someone to having full affection in Class Life in DR1? I get their special scene, but that doesn't unlock the 51st day wherein I'm supposed to lock things in.


Ehhh for now xP

That's easy. You basically need to use the tickets Monokuma gives you to invite them anywhere. The tricky part is knowing what answer gives you the best result when your given the choice to what question to ask and the biggest thing is picking the right area to invite each character. It requires multiple playthroughs to get all of them at full affection. It took me 4 with the right strategy.


I got them to full affection. Multiple times. It still didn't work.
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genodragon1 wrote:
Walter White wrote:
genodragon1 wrote:
Yay we can finally stop arguing~

... >_> I hope you think that was worth it, because I don't.

Anyway, uh... subject change!

Anyone know how to fix someone to having full affection in Class Life in DR1? I get their special scene, but that doesn't unlock the 51st day wherein I'm supposed to lock things in.


Ehhh for now xP

That's easy. You basically need to use the tickets Monokuma gives you to invite them anywhere. The tricky part is knowing what answer gives you the best result when your given the choice to what question to ask and the biggest thing is picking the right area to invite each character. It requires multiple playthroughs to get all of them at full affection. It took me 4 with the right strategy.


I got them to full affection. Multiple times. It still didn't work.


Oh okie I see what it is. If you haven't completed Warlock Kuma by the final day then you won't be able to get each characters underwear.
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But I did. The "warlock" Usami, right?
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But I did. The "warlock" Usami, right?


Yeah and did you get the ending? Also you did all the report cards for everyone right? If you did everything right and built all the back ups without missing one ten you should be able to talk to the characters after the ending cutscene with Usami.
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It just restarted as if nothing happened. ;__; I even learned to have multiple characters on maximum affection.
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It just restarted as if nothing happened. ;__; I even learned to have multiple characters on maximum affection.


Hmm that's very weird since if you did all that then it should have worked. Hmmm :grey think: why not try to do their events one more time with the tickets you get since you only need to do it once more during your next play through and if it doesn't work then there is a glitch
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Are you sure you got every character's Report Card maxed out? Other than Naegi's, they'll have a star next to them when you get all the pages.

Spoiler: Spoiler but if you're in Class Life Mode you know about this already
Fukawa's is the trickiest since she has like nine pages and three or so are from hanging out with Genocider.


But yeah, you have to be sure you've completed everyone's card before you can get any special endings.



Finished Chapter 1 of SDR2

Spoiler: Spoilers for that there chapter
Whoo, I'm 0 for 2 on my predictions, so far so good

Though in my defense, I didn't know how much Brogami had changed since the first game (NEVER HELP PEOPLE), and I did at least figure out the real killer by the halfway point in the trial (so I could have had ten million bucks if Monokuma wasn't a lying jerkface)

Also I expected Komaeda to be kind of quirky but I didn't expect him to be a full-blown fucking lunatic

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Are you sure you got every character's Report Card maxed out? Other than Naegi's, they'll have a star next to them when you get all the pages.

Spoiler: Spoiler but if you're in Class Life Mode you know about this already
Fukawa's is the trickiest since she has like nine pages and three or so are from hanging out with Genocider.


But yeah, you have to be sure you've completed everyone's card before you can get any special endings.


They had the full hearts and were at the top of their pillars. Then nothing at the end.



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Whoo, I'm 0 for 2 on my predictions, so far so good

Though in my defense, I didn't know how much Brogami had changed since the first game (NEVER HELP PEOPLE), and I did at least figure out the real killer by the halfway point in the trial (so I could have had ten million bucks if Monokuma wasn't a lying jerkface)

Also I expected Komaeda to be kind of quirky but I didn't expect him to be a full-blown fucking lunatic


Welcome to the club. X3 Which characters do you like the best thus far?
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You most likely have a glitch in the game because thats what it sounds like :yogi:


Damn man Ch4 is so amazing yet I feel so heartbroken and torn up :viola: :viola:

Spoiler: DR2 Ch 4 Killer and Ch 5 death
Chapter was amazing because of...MORE KOMAEDA TIME!! :acro: :acro:

I felt so heartbroken when I had to choose Gundam as the killer :viola: I hesitated so much when I had to press the button to click on him. I loved Gundam and his hilarious antics and now it won't feel the same anymore and even worse Komaeda dies next chapter :viola: :viola:
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Wow. That argument escalated. It's fine now that it's cooled down, but... try not to do that again, k? (That's to both of you.)

But on the issue... I'm with Cat. Murderers and murder methods are super obvious in pretty much every case, and if the game isn't obvious about something, it's usually because it's instead just plain idiotic.
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But on the issue... I'm with Cat. Murderers and murder methods are super obvious in pretty much every case, and if the game isn't obvious about something, it's usually because it's instead just plain idiotic.


To be honest I don't see how the game makes it that obvious in the beginning. The only time it becomes obvious is when the class trial is half way through.
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But on the issue... I'm with Cat. Murderers and murder methods are super obvious in pretty much every case, and if the game isn't obvious about something, it's usually because it's instead just plain idiotic.


To be honest I don't see how the game makes it that obvious in the beginning. The only time it becomes obvious is when the class trial is half way through.

It's because none of the mysteries are that hard. They also give pretty much all of the evidence and information during the investigation, so if you pay attention and think about it, it's not too difficult to arrive at the answer. (And even without that, the murders aren't really that hard. Even without the full investigation, I nailed every single SDR2 killer before leaving the crime scene the first time.)
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Bad Player wrote:
Walter White wrote:
Bad Player wrote:
But on the issue... I'm with Cat. Murderers and murder methods are super obvious in pretty much every case, and if the game isn't obvious about something, it's usually because it's instead just plain idiotic.


To be honest I don't see how the game makes it that obvious in the beginning. The only time it becomes obvious is when the class trial is half way through.

It's because none of the mysteries are that hard. They also give pretty much all of the evidence and information during the investigation, so if you pay attention and think about it, it's not too difficult to arrive at the answer. (And even without that, the murders aren't really that hard. Even without the full investigation, I nailed every single SDR2 killer before leaving the crime scene the first time.)


Same can be pretty much said for any AA game. I mean yeah the killers are easy to figure out which I admit unlike Cat that i knew most of the killers because of the DR wiki but not when it comes to figuring out how everything happening thats a different story.
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Are you sure you got every character's Report Card maxed out? Other than Naegi's, they'll have a star next to them when you get all the pages.

Spoiler: Spoiler but if you're in Class Life Mode you know about this already
Fukawa's is the trickiest since she has like nine pages and three or so are from hanging out with Genocider.


But yeah, you have to be sure you've completed everyone's card before you can get any special endings.


They had the full hearts and were at the top of their pillars. Then nothing at the end.



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Finished Chapter 1 of SDR2

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Whoo, I'm 0 for 2 on my predictions, so far so good

Though in my defense, I didn't know how much Brogami had changed since the first game (NEVER HELP PEOPLE), and I did at least figure out the real killer by the halfway point in the trial (so I could have had ten million bucks if Monokuma wasn't a lying jerkface)

Also I expected Komaeda to be kind of quirky but I didn't expect him to be a full-blown fucking lunatic


Welcome to the club. X3 Which characters do you like the best thus far?

The hearts and pillars are a different thing from what I'm talking about, though. When you hang out with someone in Class Life, you can either use a Trip Ticket or Spend Time with them; the latter is the same as the Free Time events you can do in the main game. Sometimes after the choice to give someone a present in Free Time/Spend Time comes up, you'll get an extra event with that character. You need to have seen all of those with every character before you even bother with hearts.

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All the girls except Owari (athletic, dumb, dark-skinned girl with huge tits, gee, where have I seen that before) but especially Koizumi and Saionji
Brogami
Tanaka is amusing but kind of one-note
Komaeda I'm very conflicted on at the moment; on one hand he's a very interesting character especially as far as this series goes, but on the other hand I really really really want to punch him in the face

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So, the one or two missed free times with
Spoiler: DR1 spoilers
Genocider

Mean I can't achieve the final report cards with ANYONE?

And I'll agree that the assessment you've placed of the characters is somewhat spot-on. I never know what to make of Komaeda, either. At first, I was weirded out, and now I'm in this weird middle ground of "eh, he's cool, but he gets away with stuff you'd hate other characters for, and I dunno why".
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Walter White wrote:
when it comes to figuring out how everything happening thats a different story.

...Not really. Still relatively obvious.
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Bad Player wrote:
Walter White wrote:
when it comes to figuring out how everything happening thats a different story.

...Not really. Still relatively obvious.


I don't see how but to each their own. I guess your better at solving mysteries than I am :yogi: *bows to the great and powerful BadPlayer*
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Even without the full investigation, I nailed every single SDR2 killer before leaving the crime scene the first time.


Challenge accepted.

(seriously though, I think I was the only person who had trouble figuring out who the culprit was in DR ch3)
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Even without the full investigation, I nailed every single SDR2 killer before leaving the crime scene the first time.


Challenge accepted.

(seriously though, I think I was the only person who had trouble figuring out who the culprit was in DR ch3)


That one was honestly easier once you figure out who the killer was based on who was near by the victim.
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To be honest, my willing suspension of disbelief shields me from my mystery-solving. I tend to get focused on their usage of writing tropes, and that's why I got the mastermind of SDR2's identity and not much else.
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Even without the full investigation, I nailed every single SDR2 killer before leaving the crime scene the first time.


Challenge accepted.

(seriously though, I think I was the only person who had trouble figuring out who the culprit was in DR ch3)

Heheheh, good luck.

I'll warn you now that it may not actually be possible in ch4. While the murder isn't too difficult to figure out, the cluing towards the identity of the killer is probably the subtlest in the entire franchise, and I don't remember exactly when the necessary info is given. (Of course, it's still an F if you don't get them by the end of the investigation :P)
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Bad Player wrote:
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Bad Player wrote:
Even without the full investigation, I nailed every single SDR2 killer before leaving the crime scene the first time.


Challenge accepted.

(seriously though, I think I was the only person who had trouble figuring out who the culprit was in DR ch3)

Heheheh, good luck.

I'll warn you now that it may not actually be possible in ch4. While the murder isn't too difficult to figure out, the cluing towards the identity of the killer is probably the subtlest in the entire franchise, and I don't remember exactly when the necessary info is given. (Of course, it's still an F if you don't get them by the end of the investigation :P)


I have to admit for ch 4 its abit more difficult to figure out the killer but towards the end of the class trial everything becomes more clear. Ch 4 is my favorite by far since Im almost done with it.
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But on the issue... I'm with Cat. Murderers and murder methods are super obvious in pretty much every case, and if the game isn't obvious about something, it's usually because it's instead just plain idiotic.


To be honest I don't see how the game makes it that obvious in the beginning. The only time it becomes obvious is when the class trial is half way through.


Here's a list of things I predicted, generally before the murders took place for DR.

Spoiler: Danganronpa Murders
Chapter 1: I knew Maizono was up to something. Why? Cause I'm a super suspicious person and when she came into his room, going all on about "Naegi-kun, someone tried to break into my room...! I'm so scared...", I knew she was lying because I remember Monokuma mentioning the intense anti-breaking-in locks the game had. Especially the request to switch rooms, I knew she was trying to give herself an alibi or similar.
That she ended up dead was just an after-effect and... oh well.

Chapter 2: ...I called the fact that Fujisaki was a dude the first time I spotted him. Seriously. Something about his appearance seemed pretty-boy-male to me. Also, his Japanese voice actor. They say he can do women voices really well, which if he can is awesome, but why was he told to not do so in this game? He really sounded like "Dude trying to sound like a Lady".
As for the murder, I think this was the one I didn't call right away, mostly cause I never saw a scene with Fujisaki in Free Time, or any mention of him working out with someone. I'll admit that. Good going, game, keeping me from predicting the murderer, but spoiling the giant reveal during the intro...

Chapter 3: ...anyone who seriously thought Celestia wasn't guilty of something is freaking blind and deaf. For one, she had a picture of the Justice Robo "kidnapping" Yamada. Yeah, if I was a Justice Robo who tried to kidnap and smash people's heads in with a hammer, I'd totally let them take a pic and keep it.
She's also constantly the one who says she saw him, when no-one else saw him. Meaning he was never real or she was absolutely in on the entire thing. Again, obvious as anything. (I will admit I felt a slight pang of sympathy for Yamada when we found him "injured" in the library - but that might have been sympathy cause I know severe headaches)
The Yamada in the nurse room being very much alive was obvious. Especially because, again, Celestia was the one who told one of their trio to leave, then got Asahina to leave the room, so Yamada was alone. And really, only one person might be able to move Yamada - and that's Oogami. And since she was with the others, she has an alibi. So the only conclusion to come to was that Yamada was alive and walked away himself.
Seriously, for a gambler who supposedly has such a poker face, she sucks at lying and playing a part.

Chapter 4: Suicide. As soon as I saw Oogami through the glass of the door, I knew it was suicide. I also knew it was poison, because she vomitted blood. Even more so when the Monokuma File specifically mentioned there to be no other external injuries. That just confirmed my idea that something internal was going on.

Chapter 5: I was a bit slower on that, but the hand of the corpse looked so familiar to me. Then there was also the number of the lights in the morgue. (Fresh Meat department, is what I called it)

Chapter 6: Nothing counts here, since it's basically like the unnecessity of the 2nd Harry Potter Deathly Hallows movie. Wasn't needed and just an extension to prolong something.


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So, the one or two missed free times with
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Genocider

Mean I can't achieve the final report cards with ANYONE?

And I'll agree that the assessment you've placed of the characters is somewhat spot-on. I never know what to make of Komaeda, either. At first, I was weirded out, and now I'm in this weird middle ground of "eh, he's cool, but he gets away with stuff you'd hate other characters for, and I dunno why".

Correct, although
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you can still get them in Class Life by hanging out with Fukawa, you just need to be lucky enough to get her Genocider persona. It's random from what I can tell.


And I forgot about Mikan in my previous post. She reminds me way too much of Mikuru Asahina and that irritates me greatly.
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Damn the ending of Ch 4 hit me even worse :viola:

Spoiler: DR2 Ch 4
Damn that beautiful man for sacrificing his own life to save everyone else's life from starving to death and Nekomaru as well for being so selfless. Sucks now even more that Ch 5 will be even more sadder for me :viola:

Also Minirobomaru is so damn fucking adorable!! :sparkly-maggey:
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Well Komaeda officially went bat shit crazy in ch 5 xD
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Walter White wrote:
Well Komaeda officially went bat shit crazy in ch 5 xD


Your assessment is a tad late. =P
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genodragon1 wrote:
Walter White wrote:
Well Komaeda officially went bat shit crazy in ch 5 xD


Your assessment is a tad late. =P


Well I did just get up to that chapter so makes sense xD

Spoiler: DR2 Ch 5
Didn't expect him to go all Unabomber and try to blow up the whole island. I couldn't help but crack up as the bomb in the hotel lobby blew up and Souda went flying xD
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Spoiler: Ch. 2 pre-trial and theory on trial
Well I got one right but I wish I hadn't

GODDAMNIT DANGANRONPA QUIT KILLING MY FAVORITE CHARACTERS OFF SO EARLY

...sigh

Calling it now, Nidai is the killer. No way in hell it was Saionji, the other girls all have alibis, Kuzuryu is obviously a red herring again, Soda was with Hinata, Looney Tunes was tied up until the murder announcement, and Tanaka was off being a weirdo somewhere, w/e it wasn't him. Plus Nidai was suspiciously absent for most of the chapter and he's the only one tall enough to possibly escape through the shower window.

oh yeah sherlock holmes 2 here baby





...but seriously if Saionji or Nanami die next Imma quit :tigre:

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