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Out in the vast universe of video game developing, you have your gigantic megaton companies like Activision and Electronic Arts, your moderate companies like Capcom and Konami.....

And then you have Bob.

Whose Bob? Well, Bob is a programmer. And at the moment, he's been working for five years to create a Nintendo DS game called Bob's Game. And while it isn't exactly the most creative title, it seems to be shaping up to be a great game.

However, there is a problem.

"This is my game for Nintendo DS, a 20-hour-long retail-size,
retail-quality adventure title by a single human being-
the largest game ever made by one person."

"bob's game" is a simple 2D adventure game, with focus on
story, puzzles, item collection, and communication instead
of repetitive battles with palette-swapped enemies."

"Many characters (over 200 completely unique characters!)
have deep personalities that evolve, and many things
depend on the in-game time, day and weather."

"It's the game I wanted to play when I was younger,
a vision I've been following since then."

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"The game industry is evolving rapidly into a new era where
titles are made by teams of more than a hundred developers."

"I saw a window of opportunity quickly closing- what may be the
last chance for making a console game to be possible by a single individual."

"Even on a portable platform, singlehandedly creating something
generally made by large, well-funded teams was no small effort."

"All concepts, story, code, sprites, tiles, music, samples,
fonts, etc. were created entirely from scratch by me-
and I had to teach myself the skills as I went along."

"The code is straight C, the music is tracked, and the art is all
completely hand-clicked tiles and sprites- done the right way,
pixel by pixel, like the classics we all know and love."

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"bob's game" is a sort of masterpiece for me.
I've invested well over 15,000 hours into
its development over 5 years of dedication-
That is no exaggeration, and it shows."

"I intend this to become one of the last great old-school
2D retail console games- truly the vision of a single mind."

I met with Nintendo in February- almost a YEAR ago- to ask for the SDK.
I did teleconferencing. I flew to GDC and had a face-to-face meeting.
I asked the WarioWorld division, and they sent me to marketing.
I talked to marketing, and they said apply with WarioWorld division!
The agreement on the application states I will receive a decision in 6-8 weeks. It has been 17 weeks!
I fulfill all the requirements- I'm a financially stable registered company with a FEIN working from a commercial address.
When Nintendo decides to approve my developer license application I will end my protest.

I worked on this project for five years because I wanted to make a "Nintendo game."
I'm not about to give up just because some stubborn intern or mid-level marketing exec at NOA is deleting my emails!
I want an answer, and I want to hear it from the top.
Will the men of talent at Nintendo- those with passion and ideas of their own- dismiss mine?"

" I REALLY WANT TO FINISH THIS GAME!"


So, Bob has a problem. Nintendo will NOT supply him with a development kit, or an SDK, despite how many times he's asked for it. What does he do now, you ask?

"I cannot leave this viridian room. The door is locked and barricaded from the outside.
I am sleeping behind the camera, and yes- I've got a shower. Food is delivered once a week by a friend.
I have no internet access, television, or game consoles besides those I am developing on.
I can receive and send email on my Android G1, so I can get Nintendo's reply and update my site with tether.
The LED counter will be incremented once a day, and sometimes it will display hints and secret messages."


"This is my 100 day protest to Nintendo!"


That's right. He's protesting Nintendo by barricading his room and staying inside until he gets his demands. Sure, one might look at this game as a "homebrew" game. However, once he gets one of these kits it won't be one any longer. So what if he hasn't got a team of developers working on this game? It's still shaping up to look great, and Nintendo won't help him. It might seem extreme what he's doing, yes, but understand; he's been working on this for years, and he's not about to give up over this.

So, how can you help? Write a letter to Nintendo. Tell them you want Bob to continue his game until it's able to be released. Nintendo is all about innovation and such, but when a one man company comes to them with a game ready to be made for their system, they turn him away! He has every requirement to get the license to develop the game for the DS, so they should let him!

http://www.bobsgame.com/ <--- Bob's website.

Oh, and if you're interested, some of Bob's Game on Youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZf2E_wBvng&eurl

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrAYDSTkXgQ&eurl=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHG9Sva6B3c&eurl=
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Hmm... Definitely interesting, how one person managed to develop every aspect of the game single-handedly... I wonder why Nintendo wouldn't give him the kit...
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I watched one of the YouTube videos...the game actually looks really fun :O
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Looks fun.

Bob's an idiot. Go homebrew first.
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I'd buy it, but I can see why Nintendo wouldn't want to just ship out a kit to just anyone, regardless of whether they made a game or not.

On top of that, from what I saw, the game was riddled with legal issues that might get people in deep shit, such as the DDR machines and the Chrono Trigger-esque heads...

Honestly though, making a game by yourself isn't as difficult as it sounds.
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;_; do want naoooooooooooooo!......me wAnt it!
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Bendilin wrote:
I'd buy it, but I can see why Nintendo wouldn't want to just ship out a kit to just anyone, regardless of whether they made a game or not.

On top of that, from what I saw, the game was riddled with legal issues that might get people in deep shit, such as the DDR machines and the Chrono Trigger-esque heads...

Honestly though, making a game by yourself isn't as difficult as it sounds.


It wouldn't be a problem if Konami published it, which I can totally see them doing.

As for the Chrono Trigger heads, is it LIKE the heads, or THE heads?
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Good looking game. What he is doing is moronic though. Seriously dude, if Nintendo isn't going to publish it, get either some other company to do it or make it a freeware. If we start staying in our room for 100 days because of things we want to happen; we might as well get a better reason to do it. Like doing it to make sure George Lucas will stop trying to bring back Star Wars, or to get people to stop making sequels to Jim Carrey films that doesn't star Jim Carrey.
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Homebrew man, that's why Bob is an idiot.
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Spoiler: Long argument
When has Nintendo ever listened to its fans? They only want one thing now.
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That's all Nintendo is about, And I have more evidence!
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Sorry Bob but unless you game has "waggle" controls that a 4 year-old retarded Chimp can learn, Your SOL man.


Spoiler: Short argument
I'll sum up my argument in 8 words

NINTENDO DOESN'T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT ITS FANS

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Domaya wrote:
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When has Nintendo ever listened to its fans? They only want one thing now.
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Sorry Bob but unless you game has "waggle" controls that a 4 year-old retarded Chimp can learn, Your SOL man.


Well, aside from that being semi-amusing, it's incorrect. And don't call something on VGCats "Evidence". It's called "Opinion"... Nintendo has stated that their audience is not ONLY the Hardcore Audience anymore... And if they cared about money, this would be an amazing chance to get some, since there's the whole "One man made this game, and Nintendo thinks that's amazing!" line that could be used by them...

Trust me. Games can suck, and they'll still get attention... I mean, look at Sonic '06!

Domaya wrote:
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NINTENDO DOESN'T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT ITS FANS


Obviously wrong, yet again... Otherwise, NO games would have sequels coming up... They announced a Mario Game, and Zelda Game, but the mainly hyped one ended up being Pikmin 3.

Even though most people don't like the Pikmin series, they are showing that they are paying attention to their fans by announcing those games.
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Wrestlemania wrote:
Domaya wrote:
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I'll sum up my argument in 8 words

NINTENDO DOESN'T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT ITS FANS


Obviously wrong, yet again... Otherwise, NO games would have sequels coming up... They announced a Mario Game, and Zelda Game, but the mainly hyped one ended up being Pikmin 3.

Even though most people don't like the Pikmin series, they are showing that they are paying attention to their fans by announcing those games.


Quote:
Nintendo isn't being really sucky as of right now


harblharblhurr


Also, that guy is rather childish, to be honest.
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Tinker wrote:
Wrestlemania wrote:
Domaya wrote:
Spoiler: Short argument
I'll sum up my argument in 8 words

NINTENDO DOESN'T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT ITS FANS


Obviously wrong, yet again... Otherwise, NO games would have sequels coming up... They announced a Mario Game, and Zelda Game, but the mainly hyped one ended up being Pikmin 3.

Even though most people don't like the Pikmin series, they are showing that they are paying attention to their fans by announcing those games.


Quote:
Nintendo isn't being really sucky as of right now


harblharblhurr


Also, that guy is rather childish, to be honest.


I'm sorry, I can't tell who you're insulting, under the assumption you are insulting anyone in particular... :sadshoe:

But if it isn't already obvious, I'm not a Fanboy of any particular system, but I have checked out my information before speaking on the matter... And while they pretty much said there would be new Zelda and Mario games with a murmur, the Pikmin 3 game WAS announced clearly, and was also spoken about on X-Play.

... I don't know why the heck I was even WATCHING X-Play...
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I'm sorry, I can't tell who you're insulting, under the assumption you are insulting anyone in particular... :sadshoe:


You. Vague confirmations there'll be "one or two good games! Somewhere in the future!" doesn't make me a happy fan, to be honest.
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That Mario game is probably Mario Party 9 (13?).

Sorry, but Nintendo hasn't cared about its fans in the longest time (at least six years). Twilight Princess was some sort of miracle fluke and we won't ever be served anything of its quality in any of Nintendo's franchises ever again. And you know why? Because Nintendo gets a lot more money when they make games that are easy to develop, take very little time and money to develop, and sell in the eight digits margin rather than making games that take years to develop, millions of dollars, and only a couple million sell. Nintendo's target audience doesn't want to play Zelda or Star Fox or F-Zero. They want to play simple games they can get into and out of quickly and that they can have fun with while other people are present.

On top of that, Nintendo realizes its "fans" are nothing more than blind idiots who will follow them no matter what they do, so they don't have to make any of their main franchise games for support. They're not idiots. They know if they toss out one of their franchise games every two to four years then their moronic fanbase will stay right where they are, panting and wagging their tails and praising how awesome Nintendo is for being so generous. They flat out scoffed at the biggest video game petition of all time because they just don't care (and probably for the better... Sonic Team USA did nothing but listen to the fans, and you know what that resulted in? Sonic Heroes, Shadow The Hedgehog, and the new NiGHTS...three shitfests).

So, ya, you go ahead and have fun waiting for your subpar Zelda and Pikmin title when they come out for the Wii.
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Tinker wrote:
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I'm sorry, I can't tell who you're insulting, under the assumption you are insulting anyone in particular... :sadshoe:


You. Vague confirmations there'll be "one or two good games! Somewhere in the future!" doesn't make me a happy fan, to be honest.


My point with what I had explained, was that just by showing that they have plans for some of their mainstream "Series", that one could come to the conclusion that they care somewhat about the fans.

Mind you, even I don't believe the argument is without its' flaws, but by coming to the conclusion Nintendo doesn't care about the fans, then we must all come to the conclusion that none of the three main companies care about their fans.

Which, I might add, would explain why there are no innovative games coming out, and pretty much everything is a sequel or a spin-off series, with minor exceptions...

But NONE of the companies care about their fans. Simply saying "Nintendo doesn't care about their fans" is misleading... NONE of them do.
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If Nintendo wanted to even remotely prove their loyalty to fans, they would have to release a good Kid Icarus game, a non-cartoony Punch-out!!!, and give the greenlight to Namco and Monolith Software (Which is now part of Nintendo) to release Xenosaga I & II worldwide* and for Monolith to also get Disaster: Day of Crisis over to North America.

*Because putting Xenosaga, one of the PS2's best series' on the DS is win.
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If Nintendo wanted to even remotely prove their loyalty to fans, they would have to release a good Kid Icarus game,


Did ever occur to you they might be working on it and don't want to brag before they finish?

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a non-cartoony Punch-out!!!,


What do you mean? Punch-Out!! was always cartoony. What were you expecting? Fight Night?

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and give the greenlight to Namco and Monolith Software (Which is now part of Nintendo) to release Xenosaga I & II worldwide*

You know you can import it, right?

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and for Monolith to also get Disaster: Day of Crisis over to North America.

It IS coming over here. Next year.

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*Because putting Xenosaga, one of the PS2's best series' on the DS is win.

Is the problem you can't read Japanese or something?
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Wrestlemania wrote:
none of the three main companies care about their fans

OH SNAP!

ON TOPIC: I have always wished Nintendo would make a Nintendo DS game like Nintendocats,
like me, The weird guy can dream of a game he thought of, but may never happen to release.
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so I finally got around to actually reading about Bob's Game

Bob is a fucking retard

And why shouldn't Punch Out!! be cartoony, it's awesome the same it is
If you come across an older post of mine, sowwy


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Wocky Kitaki wrote:
Phoenix_Apollo wrote:
If Nintendo wanted to even remotely prove their loyalty to fans, they would have to release a good Kid Icarus game,


Did ever occur to you they might be working on it and don't want to brag before they finish?

Phoenix_Apollo wrote:
a non-cartoony Punch-out!!!,


What do you mean? Punch-Out!! was always cartoony. What were you expecting? Fight Night?

Phoenix_Apollo wrote:
and give the greenlight to Namco and Monolith Software (Which is now part of Nintendo) to release Xenosaga I & II worldwide*

You know you can import it, right?

Phoenix_Apollo wrote:
and for Monolith to also get Disaster: Day of Crisis over to North America.

It IS coming over here. Next year.

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*Because putting Xenosaga, one of the PS2's best series' on the DS is win.

Is the problem you can't read Japanese or something?


Yes, that is indeed the problem. It'd take me years to learn the nessecary amount of Japanese needed. I'm not that devoted to gaming people, that I'd spend years learning a language to plau a game or two. That, and the fact I cannot buy online, or have the money to go importing every game I want.

And Disaster is coming over here? Can you provide me with a link? I got the impression that Reggie hated it.

Punch-Out the way it is now just seems to be like Facebreaker was supposed to be, and that game wasn't very successful, if I recall. I'm fine with cartoony games, but this is different than the original Punch-Out, IMO. But, because I've only seen screenshots of it, I'll see how it'll be in the reviews.
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Everyone, this Bob has to be a troll.

He blamed hanafuda cards and Nintendo's manufacturing of said cards.
He was "abducted" by aliens.

This guy is definitely crazy, or it's all viral. It's going to be homebrew with a crazy campaign for publicity.
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Yes, that is indeed the problem. It'd take me years to learn the nessecary amount of Japanese needed. I'm not that devoted to gaming people, that I'd spend years learning a language to plau a game or two. That, and the fact I cannot buy online, or have the money to go importing every game I want.

And Disaster is coming over here? Can you provide me with a link? I got the impression that Reggie hated it.

Punch-Out the way it is now just seems to be like Facebreaker was supposed to be, and that game wasn't very successful, if I recall. I'm fine with cartoony games, but this is different than the original Punch-Out, IMO. But, because I've only seen screenshots of it, I'll see how it'll be in the reviews.


Okay, I see your beef about Xenosaga and stuff.

As for Disaster, I looked on IGN, It says TBA 2009. Then again, IGN hasn't been reliable in like....ever.

and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibFQ348YoW8 the trailer is awesome
I'd say it's similar. Unless you are talking about Arcade Punch-Out!!! or Super Punch-Out!!!

and yes, Facebreaker WASN'T successful. But Ready 2 Rumble Boxing was, and that is what was pretty much Punch Out 3D until this came along.
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Yes, that is indeed the problem. It'd take me years to learn the nessecary amount of Japanese needed. I'm not that devoted to gaming people, that I'd spend years learning a language to plau a game or two. That, and the fact I cannot buy online, or have the money to go importing every game I want.

And Disaster is coming over here? Can you provide me with a link? I got the impression that Reggie hated it.

Punch-Out the way it is now just seems to be like Facebreaker was supposed to be, and that game wasn't very successful, if I recall. I'm fine with cartoony games, but this is different than the original Punch-Out, IMO. But, because I've only seen screenshots of it, I'll see how it'll be in the reviews.


Okay, I see your beef about Xenosaga and stuff.

As for Disaster, I looked on IGN, It says TBA 2009. Then again, IGN hasn't been reliable in like....ever.

and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibFQ348YoW8 the trailer is awesome
I'd say it's similar. Unless you are talking about Arcade Punch-Out!!! or Super Punch-Out!!!

and yes, Facebreaker WASN'T successful. But Ready 2 Rumble Boxing was, and that is what was pretty much Punch Out 3D until this came along.


IGN could be wrong, since I've heard that the release of Disaster depends on how it did in Europe.

And yes, I was taking about the original Punch-Outs. And also, to remind you, when was R2R Boxing last released? Like, 2001. It's been years, so it's not really a fair comparison (unless the rumor of a new one is true), unlike Facebreaker.
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IGN could be wrong, since I've heard that the release of Disaster depends on how it did in Europe.

And yes, I was taking about the original Punch-Outs. And also, to remind you, when was R2R Boxing last released? Like, 2001. It's been years, so it's not really a fair comparison (unless the rumor of a new one is true), unlike Facebreaker.


http://www.nwiizone.com/nintendo-wii/nw ... confirmed/

It's official allright.

But getting back ontopic, Bob needs to grow up.

Oh god....he refers to Nintendo as 'Gantendo'. Now some idiot thinking he is all creative will photoshop Gant onto Miyamoto or something.
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also bob confirmed it was all a joke

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I hate the part where he says that Nintendo is a lier when they say "believing in yourself and having courage is good" and he believes that nothing really can happen with courage and believing in yourself.

So if I believe I can be a great Prosecutor, it cant really happen eh?
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also bob confirmed it was all a joke

what an idiot

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Good riddance. He turned into nothing more than an unemployed Dennis Dyack.
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I'd like to ask what you would have done in his situation, then.

As for me, I would've done what the first commenter said - just go to another company. Ask around. Nintendo is not the only company out there.
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Yeah, probably. Or try again later, after developing the game some more. What he did was just childish.
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What he did was just childish.

That, I'll definitely agree to.
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Re: Help Save Bob!Topic%20Title
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Tinker wrote:
What he did was just childish.


HI GUYS NINTENDO WON'T DO WHAT I WANT THEM TO DO, SO I'M STAYING IN MY HOUSE FOR 100 DAYS.

GAWD NINTENDO, YOU GUYS ARE ALL JERKS BECAUSE YOU HAVE CONTROL OVER YOUR CONSOLE AND I CAN'T BE IN IT, SO I'M CALLING YOU THE DUMBEST INSULT I CAN THINK OF LET'S SEE UH.........'GANTENDO' THAT IS SURE TO GET MY COMMUNITY LOLS AND FOR ME TO BE AWESOME

OH SHIT, I WAS KIDDING, NINTENDO IS AWESOME AND I AM NOT SAYING THAT BECAUSE I LOVE ATTENTION AND WANT PEOPLE TO STAY ON MY SITE RIGHT,GUYS.........GUYS?
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wannabe4chanmod wrote:
I hate the part where he says that Nintendo is a lier when they say "believing in yourself and having courage is good" and he believes that nothing really can happen with courage and believing in yourself.

So if I believe I can be a great Prosecutor, it cant really happen eh?


I thought you were currently aiming for a moderation position at 4Chan.

Next thing we know, you'll want to become a Pokemon.
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Aww, it wants to take a picture of you!

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Harry Miste wrote:
Next thing we know, you'll want to become a Pokemon.

CONGRATS TAILS, YOU JUST CAUGHT A WANNABE!

What... Wannabe is evolving...

Your Wannabe just evolved into a Lawyer!
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Tinker wrote:
also bob confirmed it was all a joke

what an idiot


I thought it sounded more like he was just like

severely autistc

and is trying to cover up his anguish by saying it was a joke

Really guys this is more pathetic than anything
If you come across an older post of mine, sowwy
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........ ok i read the WHOLE article. Now i sort of feel sorry for him. But his sorta wrong... because Nintendo is trying to expand they're fanbase. I mean, think about it, before the Nintendo DS, (not to be sexist) but i basically never ever seen or even heard of a girl buying a gaming console (unless it was for Pokemon or some Bratz Crapz) but now it's pretty common.
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Aww, it wants to take a picture of you!

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ashxu wrote:
I mean, think about it, before the Nintendo DS, (not to be sexist) but i basically never ever seen or even heard of a girl buying a gaming console (unless it was for Pokemon or some Bratz Crapz) but now it's pretty common.

I have played Video Games, ever since I was like 5 years old, Playstation 1, Playstation 2, Nintendo 64, Super Nintendo Entertainment System, Nintendo Gamecube, Nintendo Wii, Nintendo DS Lite, Gameboy Advance (and then SP), and PSP (not in this order), are all the Video Game consoles and handhelds I own/owned and I'm a Girl.

Oh, and I hate Bratz games, I do admit I have played one for Playstation when I was younger, and I HATED IT.
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He meant attractive girls. :keiko:

Just kidding.

But seriously though...
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