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Nintendo is not holding an E3-conference this year leaving the stage open to the other kids.
Seems they wanna get mighty specific and target fans with Nintendo Directs as a more focused thing.
Granted the last ND was basically an E3's worth of exciting announcements I guess they are satisfied with the hardware sales enough to try something like this.
I'm still apprehensive other companies will see it as a sign of weakness.
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Take for example: Wii Music.
As long as ND is used for software, and not hardware I'm sure Nintendo'll be solid without the need for E3 hype.
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VCM wrote:
This could have something to do with Nintendo's recent crisis too, though it's still a guess.
Recent crisis?
Perhaps I'm out of the loop a bit fill me in please?
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This could have something to do with Nintendo's recent crisis too, though it's still a guess.
Recent crisis?
Perhaps I'm out of the loop a bit fill me in please?
Ditto, I have no idea what crisis could be going on.
Then again, I just yesterday read some stuff about the Xbox 720 and the stuff about it that already seems bad - mandatory Kinect and all that - and that kinda shocked me...
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Pierre wrote:
VCM wrote:
This could have something to do with Nintendo's recent crisis too, though it's still a guess.
Recent crisis?
Perhaps I'm out of the loop a bit fill me in please?
Ditto, I have no idea what crisis could be going on.
Then again, I just yesterday read some stuff about the Xbox 720 and the stuff about it that already seems bad - mandatory Kinect and all that - and that kinda shocked me...
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Well that might not be so bad if it's mandatory in a sense it's built in. If they mean you need to buy it for the console to work...
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There's been rumors that the Wii U didn't call as much attention as it should've and Nintendo plans on giving up on consoles altogether, focusing on portables.
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VCM wrote:
You know, that whole story about the general manager of Nintendo UK quitting and the company's disappointing sales on consoles (compared to Sony and Microsoft).
There's been rumors that the Wii U didn't call as much attention as it should've and Nintendo plans on giving up on consoles altogether, focusing on portables.
There's been rumors that the Wii U didn't call as much attention as it should've and Nintendo plans on giving up on consoles altogether, focusing on portables.
Hmmm hadn't heard that, I'd heard they were trucking on ok and their 3DS was really turning a boom and destroying it's rival the Vita.
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Pierre wrote:
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You know, that whole story about the general manager of Nintendo UK quitting and the company's disappointing sales on consoles (compared to Sony and Microsoft).
There's been rumors that the Wii U didn't call as much attention as it should've and Nintendo plans on giving up on consoles altogether, focusing on portables.
There's been rumors that the Wii U didn't call as much attention as it should've and Nintendo plans on giving up on consoles altogether, focusing on portables.
Hmmm hadn't heard that, I'd heard they were trucking on ok and their 3DS was really turning a boom and destroying it's rival the Vita.
Exactly, that's why the rumor came around. Nintendo's doing good in portables, but has started a decline in consoles that starts from the GameCube.
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Pierre wrote:
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This could have something to do with Nintendo's recent crisis too, though it's still a guess.
Recent crisis?
Perhaps I'm out of the loop a bit fill me in please?
Nintendo wasn't profitable last year and now this year they are profitable but not by much for Nintendo standards. I also believe this crisis is referring to Wii U's lack of sales.
Lots of people are saying Nintendo is not even trying to compete with Microsoft and Sony anymore and that the Big 3 is about to become the Big 2. I however would beg to differ. Nintendo has always been criticized for being different but these days you have to be different or else you won't be noticed. Also with modern technology there is no need for E3 anymore. With Nintendo directs and other companies doing similar stuff, E3 will be the thing of the past in a couple of years. I bet that in a couple of years Microsoft and Sony will be following suit. But nobody will think they are in a crisis because Nintendo will have already done it and came out ok.
Also Nintendo will be at E3 with a couple of different conferences. They just won't have the one big one where Miyamoto will pull a Pikmin out of his pocket. Or we won't see Reggie show off the new 3DS hardware. This is really all that they are missing. Sure they may not get as much press coverage without it, but I think that their announcements will be exciting enough to demand attention (unless of course they do what they did last year at E3 then Nintendo could be in some trouble).
And Nintendo will not give up on Wii U that easily. It is only a year old and everyone was saying the same thing about the 3DS not too long ago. Give it a bit more time and then people will see it can hold its own. Nintendo will not forget the Wii U but they will prove why its a console worth having.
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Nintendo wasn't profitable last year and now this year they are profitable but not by much for Nintendo standards. I also believe this crisis is referring to Wii U's lack of sales.
Well, you can't really blame people for not buying the WiiU.
From what I've been told by Gamestop Employees, the WiiU is basically like the Wii except that it can now play things in HD and is about as strong as a PS3. And the WiiU is pretty expensive, even the used consoles I saw cost almost 200€ and I wouldn't want to pay for that, given the games I've seen. Speaking of games, the option of games for the WiiU is pretty low - for one thing, most of the games that came out with the WiiU are basically ports from the Wii - another bad thing about the WiiU is that it doesn't play Wii games - and the few WiiU-exclusively-made games are just not that interesting. There's Nintendo Land, but I think there's only one "mini-game" I'd be interested in there.
Although I will probably buy one, if that damn WiiU Zelda will ever come out.
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Well that might not be so bad if it's mandatory in a sense it's built in. If they mean you need to buy it for the console to work...
Well that's exactly it.
Apparently, you need Kinect for the damn thing to even work properly. Also, it's apparently "Always On" ... no idea what that means, but it seems that, technically, the 720 would still be on, despite having turned it off. No problem for me, my consoles are all plugged into an extension box that I can just switch on and off, but it's still annoying.
And, apparently, XBOXLive + Internet Connection would be mandatory to actually get the 720 to work. Which is a giant punch in the face for young gamers whose parents don't want to pay for a console-internet connection or gamers like me, who don't see the point in having a constant internet connection on the console. I don't use my game console to go onto the internet. I use it to play games.
Of course, these are all rumors because Microsoft is being super secrety about it, but without any information, rumors are bound to crop up and, apparently, a Facebook or Twitter with one of the Microsoft employees has ended in a little fight. Something about, "What's so strange to have a console 'always on'? Things are always 'always on'..." or so.
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Well that's exactly it.
Apparently, you need Kinect for the damn thing to even work properly. Also, it's apparently "Always On" ... no idea what that means, but it seems that, technically, the 720 would still be on, despite having turned it off. No problem for me, my consoles are all plugged into an extension box that I can just switch on and off, but it's still annoying.
And, apparently, XBOXLive + Internet Connection would be mandatory to actually get the 720 to work. Which is a giant punch in the face for young gamers whose parents don't want to pay for a console-internet connection or gamers like me, who don't see the point in having a constant internet connection on the console. I don't use my game console to go onto the internet. I use it to play games.
Of course, these are all rumors because Microsoft is being super secrety about it, but without any information, rumors are bound to crop up and, apparently, a Facebook or Twitter with one of the Microsoft employees has ended in a little fight. Something about, "What's so strange to have a console 'always on'? Things are always 'always on'..." or so.
Apparently, you need Kinect for the damn thing to even work properly. Also, it's apparently "Always On" ... no idea what that means, but it seems that, technically, the 720 would still be on, despite having turned it off. No problem for me, my consoles are all plugged into an extension box that I can just switch on and off, but it's still annoying.
And, apparently, XBOXLive + Internet Connection would be mandatory to actually get the 720 to work. Which is a giant punch in the face for young gamers whose parents don't want to pay for a console-internet connection or gamers like me, who don't see the point in having a constant internet connection on the console. I don't use my game console to go onto the internet. I use it to play games.
Of course, these are all rumors because Microsoft is being super secrety about it, but without any information, rumors are bound to crop up and, apparently, a Facebook or Twitter with one of the Microsoft employees has ended in a little fight. Something about, "What's so strange to have a console 'always on'? Things are always 'always on'..." or so.
Geez man, that can't be right.
It can't be right because...well it just sounds like such a dumb plan. 'Always on' is hardly news I believe the Wii does stuff like that but if they still require XBOXlive to be a subscription service with the new service then they are basically adding an extra charge onto the console. I imagine initial bundles will probably go with like a free yearly subcription but eventually that means you'll need it to run eventually. The Kinect thing is dumb but if Xbox wants to keep using the Kinect and keep earning scorn for ridiculous Kinect games that's their perogative I'm sure Bill Gates won't cry if a little less money works it's way up the pipeline to him.
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Exactly, that's why the rumor came around. Nintendo's doing good in portables, but has started a decline in consoles that starts from the GameCube.
Also that doesn't seem right. Sure more serious gamers hated the Wii but didn't everyone and their mother buy a Wii making truckloads of money?
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I thought the same Pierre, but it seems it wasn't that much people after all, and many people reportedly sold their Wii (guilty. After a year or so I only used the thing to play Virtual Console, and I'd rather download an emulator) or traded them in shops for a PS3/360. The Wii had a marvelous first year and stalled the decline, but my guess is it never was able to turn it around.
Well how can a game console work out well if the majority of the ads for 'games' on it are for exercise stuff? Why would anybody even want a Wii to exercise? What's the point? Wouldn't it be easier to just buy those ancient Jane Fonda videotapes or something and work out with those?
Wait, I think my mind side-tracked there...
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CatMuto wrote:
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I thought the same Pierre, but it seems it wasn't that much people after all, and many people reportedly sold their Wii (guilty. After a year or so I only used the thing to play Virtual Console, and I'd rather download an emulator) or traded them in shops for a PS3/360. The Wii had a marvelous first year and stalled the decline, but my guess is it never was able to turn it around.
Well how can a game console work out well if the majority of the ads for 'games' on it are for exercise stuff? Why would anybody even want a Wii to exercise? What's the point? Wouldn't it be easier to just buy those ancient Jane Fonda videotapes or something and work out with those?
Wait, I think my mind side-tracked there...
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I had Wii Fit back in 2008 and let me tell you, that travesty doesn't exercise a thing
I think it even made me gain a few pounds
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VCM wrote:
I had Wii Fit back in 2008 and let me tell you, that travesty doesn't exercise a thing
I think it even made me gain a few pounds
I think it even made me gain a few pounds
That's actually the weight of shame that's put on you for actually using the thing.
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I had Wii Fit back in 2008 and let me tell you, that travesty doesn't exercise a thing
I think it even made me gain a few pounds
I think it even made me gain a few pounds
That's actually the weight of shame that's put on you for actually using the thing.
That works too. :(
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VCM wrote:
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I thought the same Pierre, but it seems it wasn't that much people after all, and many people reportedly sold their Wii (guilty. After a year or so I only used the thing to play Virtual Console, and I'd rather download an emulator) or traded them in shops for a PS3/360. The Wii had a marvelous first year and stalled the decline, but my guess is it never was able to turn it around.
Well how can a game console work out well if the majority of the ads for 'games' on it are for exercise stuff? Why would anybody even want a Wii to exercise? What's the point? Wouldn't it be easier to just buy those ancient Jane Fonda videotapes or something and work out with those?
Wait, I think my mind side-tracked there...
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I had Wii Fit back in 2008 and let me tell you, that travesty doesn't exercise a thing
I think it even made me gain a few pounds
If you got it for Christmas you might want to consider the effect holiday food had on you.
Edit: After asking around the internet other people say that there isn't really a crisis other than the imaginary one everyone that doesn't like nintendo seems to have, that there is financial trouble.
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As for not attending E3... It's fine. With all them Nintendo Directs, they've already taken away a major facet of the importance of E3... And it's not like they're announcing any me hardware... So, there honestly isn't a point for a maker conference for them.
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Man...that looks dull...this actually makes me worried for KH3 (since that team worked on the battle system)
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It got off to a pretty slow start, but so did the 3DS, and look how good that's doing now that it has a decent library.
But wasn't it so that even in 2010 - when the 3DS was even announced (or released) around E3 - that there were decent enough games? It had Ocarina of Time on it, something that new players liked and older plays, especially those who hold OoT in supremely high regard, and also Super Mario Land 3D and other stuff? Granted, only reason I ever got a 3DS in the first place was for Tales of the Abyss 3DS and that was later, but overall, it seemed to have a decent enough game-selection at the release time.
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As for not attending E3... It's fine. With all them Nintendo Directs, they've already taken away a major facet of the importance of E3...
Perhaps a stupid question, but what's a Nintendo Direct?
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Perhaps a stupid question, but what's a Nintendo Direct?
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It's a video series where Iwata stands in front of a camera tells us what games we're getting. It's basically E3 grade announcements, but we get them a lot sooner.
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I know the Wii U is definitely not without its flaws, but I figure give it some time. They've announced some good games for it coming out later this year, so we'll see how it does by the end of this year. Personally, I'd be more interested in it once those games come out, but as of now, I have no interest, same as it was with the 3DS. Although, I'll probably hold off on buying one anyways because of money.
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Man...that looks dull...this actually makes me worried for KH3 (since that team worked on the battle system)
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They ARE attending, but without their traditional Press conference on Tuesday morning (which will undoutedly be replaced by one or several Nintendo Directs, they implied as much during their briefing with investors). They'll even have two special events : one for retailers, the other for a select group of journalists who'll be able to try out the Nintendo line-up even before the show starts.
For everybody else, it isn't going to change anything. You'll still have the new game announcements, it just won't be during the traditional press conference. E3 will be exactly the same, minus the conference.
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Errrrr... may I ask where you all heard Nintendo wasn't attending E3?
They ARE attending, but without their traditional Press conference on Tuesday morning (which will undoutedly be replaced by one or several Nintendo Directs, they implied as much during their briefing with investors). They'll even have two special events : one for retailers, the other for a select group of journalists who'll be able to try out the Nintendo line-up even before the show starts.
For everybody else, it isn't going to change anything. You'll still have the new game announcements, it just won't be during the traditional press conference. E3 will be exactly the same, minus the conference.
They ARE attending, but without their traditional Press conference on Tuesday morning (which will undoutedly be replaced by one or several Nintendo Directs, they implied as much during their briefing with investors). They'll even have two special events : one for retailers, the other for a select group of journalists who'll be able to try out the Nintendo line-up even before the show starts.
For everybody else, it isn't going to change anything. You'll still have the new game announcements, it just won't be during the traditional press conference. E3 will be exactly the same, minus the conference.
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Nintendo is not holding an E3-conference this year leaving the stage open to the other kids.
Seems they wanna get mighty specific and target fans with Nintendo Directs as a more focused thing.
Granted the last ND was basically an E3's worth of exciting announcements I guess they are satisfied with the hardware sales enough to try something like this.
Nintendo is not holding an E3-conference this year leaving the stage open to the other kids.
Seems they wanna get mighty specific and target fans with Nintendo Directs as a more focused thing.
Granted the last ND was basically an E3's worth of exciting announcements I guess they are satisfied with the hardware sales enough to try something like this.
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L~A wrote:
Errrrr... may I ask where you all heard Nintendo wasn't attending E3?
They ARE attending, but without their traditional Press conference on Tuesday morning (which will undoutedly be replaced by one or several Nintendo Directs, they implied as much during their briefing with investors). They'll even have two special events : one for retailers, the other for a select group of journalists who'll be able to try out the Nintendo line-up even before the show starts.
For everybody else, it isn't going to change anything. You'll still have the new game announcements, it just won't be during the traditional press conference. E3 will be exactly the same, minus the conference.
They ARE attending, but without their traditional Press conference on Tuesday morning (which will undoutedly be replaced by one or several Nintendo Directs, they implied as much during their briefing with investors). They'll even have two special events : one for retailers, the other for a select group of journalists who'll be able to try out the Nintendo line-up even before the show starts.
For everybody else, it isn't going to change anything. You'll still have the new game announcements, it just won't be during the traditional press conference. E3 will be exactly the same, minus the conference.
Sorry L~A I thought I said.
Yes I know Nintendo will still be there showing off games I just meant they won't be doing the big conference presentation.
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I know the Wii U is definitely not without its flaws, but I figure give it some time. They've announced some good games for it coming out later this year, so we'll see how it does by the end of this year. Personally, I'd be more interested in it once those games come out, but as of now, I have no interest, same as it was with the 3DS. Although, I'll probably hold off on buying one anyways because of money.
What'll happen with the WiiU and me is likely what happened with me and the 3DS.
I buy the thing for a single game.
If it ever comes out.
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It's not hard to see why. With Nintendo Direct and their occasional press releases and the press-only events they have planned for E3, Nintendo feels a big conference would be redundant. I suppose it has to do with their newer attempts of spreading information through Facebook, Twitter and other social networking services as well. Maybe all of this helped them realize that only projecting their long-term plans into one big conference without further support was becoming less and less ideal, when the internet can do everything just as quickly without the risk of making embarrassing or misleading presentations.
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Exactly, that's why the rumor came around. Nintendo's doing good in portables, but has started a decline in consoles that starts from the GameCube.
Considering the Wii has sold almost 100 million units in its lifetime, I don't see how it can be considered a decline in cosoles. There was a sharp decline between the N64 and the GCN, but Nintendo definately turned it around with the Wii. The Wii U may not be selling very well since launch, but there's simply no evidence that says this is having a real negative effect on Nintendo that they can't recover from in the future.
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Well how can a game console work out well if the majority of the ads for 'games' on it are for exercise stuff? Why would anybody even want a Wii to exercise? What's the point? Wouldn't it be easier to just buy those ancient Jane Fonda videotapes or something and work out with those?
Wait, I think my mind side-tracked there...
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Wait, I think my mind side-tracked there...
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Nintendo marketed the Wii to both hardcore gamers and the casual market. That includes families, old people, and people who just don't play games in general. It worked to great effect; elderly Wii Bowling leagues were a big thing at one point, for example. It's these kinds of people who would buy Wii Fit. I've read it has also been used in physical therapy and things of that nature, but I don't know much about that myself.
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This blows. I've said it before but I think the Gamecube is very underrated.
Indeed. I've got much love for the Cube. Shame PS2 did better :(
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This blows. I've said it before but I think the Gamecube is very underrated.
Indeed. I've got much love for the Cube. Shame PS2 did better :(
It's not SO much of a shame. PS2 was pretty amazing after all.
Both the Cube and PS2 were great consoles but I suppose PS2 had more 'serious' games for growing gamers.
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This blows. I've said it before but I think the Gamecube is very underrated.
Indeed. I've got much love for the Cube. Shame PS2 did better :(
It's not SO much of a shame. PS2 was pretty amazing after all.
Both the Cube and PS2 were great consoles but I suppose PS2 had more 'serious' games for growing gamers.
True, I myself had a PS2 for 7 years and I liked it. But I wish GC had that much sucess, there were good games for it like Super Mario Sunshine, Star Fox Adventures and company.
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Pierre wrote:
Yeah GC had some great games on it no doubt I enjoyed plenty of stuff on it. SONIC ADVENTURE 2 BATTLE SON!
I thought Sonic DX was ever so slightly better than SA2. And I LOVE Super Mario Sunshine and Starfox Adventures.
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Emiko Gale wrote:
Pierre wrote:
Yeah GC had some great games on it no doubt I enjoyed plenty of stuff on it. SONIC ADVENTURE 2 BATTLE SON!
I thought Sonic DX was ever so slightly better than SA2. And I LOVE Super Mario Sunshine and Starfox Adventures.
Eh I never got to play DX I just remember getting so excited in the climax to SA2 because it's freaking awesome.
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Pierre wrote:
Yeah GC had some great games on it no doubt I enjoyed plenty of stuff on it. SONIC ADVENTURE 2 BATTLE SON!
Never played that one... I played Sonic Heroes for a while, but stopped playing, it got too boring. I think GC was the one that helped a ton of western players get into Tales Of games, though. One of the most played Tales Of games is Symphonia's GC version. Okay, it eventually got an enhanced port to the PS2 - I have both versions - but most people played the GC version.
I have good memories of the GC... and I still have it!
And I'm gonna keep it. Especially since it's one of the last gaming things my brother gave me and I still have.
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CatMuto wrote:
Pierre wrote:
Yeah GC had some great games on it no doubt I enjoyed plenty of stuff on it. SONIC ADVENTURE 2 BATTLE SON!
Never played that one... I played Sonic Heroes for a while, but stopped playing, it got too boring. I think GC was the one that helped a ton of western players get into Tales Of games, though. One of the most played Tales Of games is Symphonia's GC version. Okay, it eventually got an enhanced port to the PS2 - I have both versions - but most people played the GC version.
I have good memories of the GC... and I still have it!
And I'm gonna keep it. Especially since it's one of the last gaming things my brother gave me and I still have.
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Ugh Sonic Heroes. I liked the game well enough but getting the true ending was too brutal for my liking.
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Weejus wrote:
Personally, I think this is a great idea. Over the past year, the Nintendo Directs and their constant stream of information have proven E3's method of giving you more information but only once a year to be obsolete. With the internet and live streaming to be a much more mainstream concept than it was a year ago, E3 should have been out of the picture long ago, but the only reason I believe it should still exist is for the playable demos and whatnot that apparently Nintendo still plans to host, but even that could soon be a thing of the past if Nintendo uses the eShop as a replacement. Once again, Nintendo have shown their ability to innovate, even with the onset of a new generation and other companies announcing consoles as we speak.
And yet people still speak of them as being weak xP
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