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I'm posting this because in exactly 5 MINUTES Project Needlemouse will be unvealed at GameSpot, according to SEGA's blog.
What do you think? Return to the roots or more evidence that the Sonic Cycle is real?
BTW, info to be posted here if any.
UPDATE: It's Sonic's triumphant return to glorious 2D! "Sonic The Hedgehog 4: Episode 1" coming Summer 2010 to PSN, XBLA and WiiWare. Click here for the full info.
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Apparently, it's an episodic game, coming to PSN, XBLA and WiiWare. Coming Summer 2010.
I gotta say it, I am not disappointed.
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Wait... countdowns... GASP! MAYBE KOJIMA'S WORKING ON IT TOO!?
Game of the year.
Also, there's a fourth system, but right now it's "locked". My bet is PC, I don't think they would release it on DSiWare or App Store.
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It's....it's....
Exactly what I expected....that said it's still awesome.
However my hopes were raised at the sight of multiple characters but yet there's only one other. I really hope it's Knuckles I feel it's been too long since his last main role. Though I wouldn't mind Blaze being there.
Though if it's Episodic does that mean it's going to have a major story? With multiple characters in every chapter?
Also I hope they bring back the Sonic 2 + 3 feature of Super Sonic Mid-Level god that would be epic.
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Who would've thought one simple sentence could summon forth such tears of joy?
My only concern at this point is the nature of the episodic content. When all of the episodes are released, I sincerely hope there is a way to combine them all.
...I seriously doubt that will happen though. (Really, how would you even do that?) All I know is that I DON'T want the game separated into chunks! I mean, seriously, history shows the way! Sonic 3 is great; Sonic and Knuckles is good; Sonic 3 and Knuckles: EPIC AWESOMENESS!
I can only hope my worries are for naught. On a final note, I'm extremely thankful it's coming out on WiiWare!
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Pierre wrote:
However my hopes were raised at the sight of multiple characters but yet there's only one other. I really hope it's Knuckles I feel it's been too long since his last main role. Though I wouldn't mind Blaze being there.
Well, according to this Sonic is the only playable character, so I'm guessing the other mystery profile on the site is probably Eggman. Granted I wouldn't be surprised if they changed their minds, or just outright lied for the sake of keeping it secret or something.
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Blademaster_Orca wrote:
It doesn't look too shabby, I suppose. The running animation seems a bit choppy to me, though I can't tell if it's the game itself or Gamespot's player that makes it look so. Also, I'm not so crazy about the fact it's an episodic release, but if the game turns out to be good I suppose that can be overlooked.
Well, according to this Sonic is the only playable character, so I'm guessing the other mystery profile on the site is probably Eggman. Granted I wouldn't be surprised if they changed their minds, or just outright lied for the sake of keeping it secret or something.
Pierre wrote:
However my hopes were raised at the sight of multiple characters but yet there's only one other. I really hope it's Knuckles I feel it's been too long since his last main role. Though I wouldn't mind Blaze being there.
Well, according to this Sonic is the only playable character, so I'm guessing the other mystery profile on the site is probably Eggman. Granted I wouldn't be surprised if they changed their minds, or just outright lied for the sake of keeping it secret or something.
Bah I hope thats wrong, doesn't make sense to keep Eggman hidden, unless he's gonna be playable somehow.
I know the rest of the Sonic cast has been bashed at time but I've never objected to any of them really....except Rouge the Bat's 'sexuality' but I've accepted that now.
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Although, I'm a penny pincher and downloadable content doesn't strike a chord with me. I'd rather pay it all upfront or not at all. Now excuse me while I sit back down in my rocking chair and wave my cane at those whipper snappers and their horseless carriages.
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Pierre wrote:
Bah I hope thats wrong, doesn't make sense to keep Eggman hidden, unless he's gonna be playable somehow.
I suppose that's true. It would be an interesting twist to be able to play ass Eggman, though - I imagine there'd be a gameplay mode where you play as Eggman during the boss fights and have to defeat Sonic.
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I know the rest of the Sonic cast has been bashed at time but I've never objected to any of them really....except Rouge the Bat's 'sexuality' but I've accepted that now.
Either way Sega and Sonic Team goes about handling extra playable characters, the Sonic fanbase is always in an uproar. If they include playable characters other than Sonic, they complain that it takes away from Sonic and makes them game crap. If they don't include them, the fanbase calls them lazy and finds the game to be one-dimensional. In other words, in most fans' eyes, they can't win no matter what they do.
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Huh, I was wondering when Sega would jump on the MegaMan 9 band wagon. Really wish they retro fitted to the pre-dreamcast era art, but eh, this news is enough to get me happy.
It does seem that going the old-school route is starting to become popular lately - Mega Man 9, New Super Mario Bros. Wii, Sonic the Hedgehog 4, that upcoming Rocket Knight game, etc. - and I hope more games take on that sort of style.
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Hopefully, this'll be the one to prove the Sonic Cycle to be rubbish that only works 55% of the time.
As for playable characters, I personally only like Sonic to be playable, but I would be very happy if Shadow was playable too. Just those two. I don't really care much for anyone else, but say, if Rouge or Amy or Vector, or any other character were made playable in a future Sonic game doesn't make it crap. It depends how it's presented. It's sort of like saying that if Capcom allow Phoenix to be playable in a case or two of AJ2, then it's a complete failure. Derives from Apollo's story. But relating to what Blademaster said, if they don't include anyone, it'll be accused of lack of variety.
Yep, the Sonic fanbase is a fickle thing.
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YES! It's about time they continued the "Genesis Saga"! I'm a big fan of the first 4 (or 3 if you count Sonic 3 as Sonic 3 and Knuckles) Sonic games, and I haven't really been impressed by the 3D console games, with the exception of the Sonic Adventures, Sonic Unleashed Wii, and (dare I say it) Shadow the Hedgehog. *headshot* I like the DS and GBA ones way better. And Sonic Chronicles was pretty cool too.
Hopefully, this'll be the one to prove the Sonic Cycle to be rubbish that only works 55% of the time.
As for playable characters, I personally only like Sonic to be playable, but I would be very happy if Shadow was playable too. Just those two. I don't really care much for anyone else, but say, if Rouge or Amy or Vector, or any other character were made playable in a future Sonic game doesn't make it crap. It depends how it's presented. It's sort of like saying that if Capcom allow Phoenix to be playable in a case or two of AJ2, then it's a complete failure. Derives from Apollo's story. But relating to what Blademaster said, if they don't include anyone, it'll be accused of lack of variety.
Yep, the Sonic fanbase is a fickle thing.
Hopefully, this'll be the one to prove the Sonic Cycle to be rubbish that only works 55% of the time.
As for playable characters, I personally only like Sonic to be playable, but I would be very happy if Shadow was playable too. Just those two. I don't really care much for anyone else, but say, if Rouge or Amy or Vector, or any other character were made playable in a future Sonic game doesn't make it crap. It depends how it's presented. It's sort of like saying that if Capcom allow Phoenix to be playable in a case or two of AJ2, then it's a complete failure. Derives from Apollo's story. But relating to what Blademaster said, if they don't include anyone, it'll be accused of lack of variety.
Yep, the Sonic fanbase is a fickle thing.
XD Your certainly right about that, you make a good example.
You say you weren't keen on the 3D ones apart from Sonic Adventures, Sonic Unleashed and Shadow the Hedgehog and I heard general consensus is that Shadow was the worst of the 3D games. Though I would rather the other character isn't Shadow, I wanna see the Sonic and Knuckles Rivalry fired up again.
As for continuity (in a sonic game? lol) when is it this takes place, immediately after Super Sonic descends from the Doomsday Zone after Sonic 3 or after one of the 3D games.
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Pierre wrote:
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YES! It's about time they continued the "Genesis Saga"! I'm a big fan of the first 4 (or 3 if you count Sonic 3 as Sonic 3 and Knuckles) Sonic games, and I haven't really been impressed by the 3D console games, with the exception of the Sonic Adventures, Sonic Unleashed Wii, and (dare I say it) Shadow the Hedgehog. *headshot* I like the DS and GBA ones way better. And Sonic Chronicles was pretty cool too.
Hopefully, this'll be the one to prove the Sonic Cycle to be rubbish that only works 55% of the time.
As for playable characters, I personally only like Sonic to be playable, but I would be very happy if Shadow was playable too. Just those two. I don't really care much for anyone else, but say, if Rouge or Amy or Vector, or any other character were made playable in a future Sonic game doesn't make it crap. It depends how it's presented. It's sort of like saying that if Capcom allow Phoenix to be playable in a case or two of AJ2, then it's a complete failure. Derives from Apollo's story. But relating to what Blademaster said, if they don't include anyone, it'll be accused of lack of variety.
Yep, the Sonic fanbase is a fickle thing.
Hopefully, this'll be the one to prove the Sonic Cycle to be rubbish that only works 55% of the time.
As for playable characters, I personally only like Sonic to be playable, but I would be very happy if Shadow was playable too. Just those two. I don't really care much for anyone else, but say, if Rouge or Amy or Vector, or any other character were made playable in a future Sonic game doesn't make it crap. It depends how it's presented. It's sort of like saying that if Capcom allow Phoenix to be playable in a case or two of AJ2, then it's a complete failure. Derives from Apollo's story. But relating to what Blademaster said, if they don't include anyone, it'll be accused of lack of variety.
Yep, the Sonic fanbase is a fickle thing.
XD Your certainly right about that, you make a good example.
You say you weren't keen on the 3D ones apart from Sonic Adventures, Sonic Unleashed and Shadow the Hedgehog and I heard general consensus is that Shadow was the worst of the 3D games. Though I would rather the other character isn't Shadow, I wanna see the Sonic and Knuckles Rivalry fired up again.
As for continuity (in a sonic game? lol) when is it this takes place, immediately after Super Sonic descends from the Doomsday Zone after Sonic 3 or after one of the 3D games.
I believe it takes place after the Doomsday zone, which I read in an interview.
http://gbatemp.net/index.php?showtopic=207233
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Pierre wrote:
I wanna see the Sonic and Knuckles Rivalry fired up again.
I don't think we should write off Tails and Knuckles just yet! The original quote from the official Sega blog reads as follows:
"In Project Needlemouse, there will be no new characters – playable or otherwise. The focus will remain solely on one blue hedgehog."
http://blogs.sega.com/usa/2010/01/15/project-needlemouse-character-countdown-finale-and-concept-art/
This does NOT necessarily mean that Sonic is the only playable character, it just means that this game is not going to be cluttered with unnecessary and uninteresting new characters (thankfully!).
Furthermore, there is a black box with a question mark lock on it for another "featured character" on the game's official site. If you click on the box, it says, "Who could it be now?"
http://www.sonicthehedgehog4.com/us/
My money's on Tails to be playable, and ultimately, if we're lucky, Knuckles as well. Even if Knuckles is not playable, though, I still think he'll be an important character in the game. After all, it is a direct sequel to the older Sonic games wherein "the adventure continues."
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Pierre wrote:
I wanna see the Sonic and Knuckles Rivalry fired up again.
I don't think we should write off Tails and Knuckles just yet! The original quote from the official Sega blog reads as follows:
"In Project Needlemouse, there will be no new characters – playable or otherwise. The focus will remain solely on one blue hedgehog."
http://blogs.sega.com/usa/2010/01/15/project-needlemouse-character-countdown-finale-and-concept-art/
This does NOT necessarily mean that Sonic is the only playable character, it just means that this game is not going to be cluttered with unnecessary and uninteresting new characters (thankfully!).
Furthermore, there is a black box with a question mark lock on it for another "featured character" on the game's official site. If you click on the box, it says, "Who could it be now?"
http://www.sonicthehedgehog4.com/us/
My money's on Tails to be playable, and ultimately, if we're lucky, Knuckles as well. Even if Knuckles is not playable, though, I still think he'll be an important character in the game. After all, it is a direct sequel to the older Sonic games wherein "the adventure continues."
Yeah and Knuckles was crucial in the events of Sonic 3. While Sonic was fighting Robotnik in Space, Knuckles was taking out Super Metal Sonic on the ground so he played a major role. Tails would be interesting though a nice shout out back to the old Sonic 2 days.
I wonder if it'll be Eggman or Robotnik who is the villain.
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Also, Eggman is on the act clear signpost in the trailer.
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Technically, it's the same egg. His full name, derived from Wikipedia is 'Dr Ivor "Eggman" Robotnik'. But it's probably safe to say that it'll be Eggman, otherwise the younger unexperianced fans won't know who the hell Robotnik is.
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Also, Eggman is on the act clear signpost in the trailer.
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Also, Eggman is on the act clear signpost in the trailer.
I guess so, always been a little confused, doesn't he refer to himself as Eggman as well?
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Pierre wrote:
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Technically, it's the same egg. His full name, derived from Wikipedia is 'Dr Ivor "Eggman" Robotnik'. But it's probably safe to say that it'll be Eggman, otherwise the younger unexperianced fans won't know who the hell Robotnik is.
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Also, Eggman is on the act clear signpost in the trailer.
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Also, Eggman is on the act clear signpost in the trailer.
I guess so, always been a little confused, doesn't he refer to himself as Eggman as well?
Yes, unfortunately.
I don't CARE that he's always been called that in Japan, that doesn't change the fact that it's a
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shadowofedgeworth wrote:
Pierre wrote:
ShadowEdgeworth wrote:
Technically, it's the same egg. His full name, derived from Wikipedia is 'Dr Ivor "Eggman" Robotnik'. But it's probably safe to say that it'll be Eggman, otherwise the younger unexperianced fans won't know who the hell Robotnik is.
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Also, Eggman is on the act clear signpost in the trailer.
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Also, Eggman is on the act clear signpost in the trailer.
I guess so, always been a little confused, doesn't he refer to himself as Eggman as well?
Yes, unfortunately.
I don't CARE that he's always been called that in Japan, that doesn't change the fact that it's a
I shall never call him Eggman!
The Eggman thing started off as an insult for Sonic to throw at him but instead it somehow turned into his widely used alias of some sort. He'll always be Robotnik to me!
Also, Tails should be playable because he's the best character in the series and you know it. Come on, he can fly and swim! And Super Tails has awesome SUPER PICKIES.
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Who wants to bet that Tails, Knuckles, and/or Amy will be playable with purchased downloadable content?
Downloadable content for a downloadable game? Has that even been done before?
If Sonic is the only confirmed character, that means the levels will be designed with him in mind. What made playing as Tails and Knuckles great in Sonic 3/Sonic and Knuckles is not only their own abilities, but how there was always an alternate path only they could access, Knuckles especially. If Sonic is the only playable character upon release, that means they won't have the intent to include them, and therefore not set aside part of the levels for them.
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If this is really a follow on from the "Genesis Saga", then what's the betting that this means the return of the Special Stages, and Super Sonic transformations at will with the 50-ring rule once all emeralds are collected?
I may die of awesome if I'm allowed to Super Sonic (or even better HYPER Sonic) mid level.
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ShadowEdgeworth wrote:
If this is really a follow on from the "Genesis Saga", then what's the betting that this means the return of the Special Stages, and Super Sonic transformations at will with the 50-ring rule once all emeralds are collected?
I think the special stages, at least, are already a done deal! Check out this quote from the press release:
"Packed with special stages [emphasis added], Sonic the Hedgehog 4 Episode I will take players through a variety of different Zones, inspired by the Genesis-era style."
The fact that they differentiate between "special stages" and "Zones" within the same sentence leads me to believe that they are indeed talking about "those" special stages, the ones you do to collect Chaos Emeralds. (Then again, maybe they're just saying the zones are "special," but I like my interpretation better.
) Now whether they're like the ones in Sonic 3 and Knuckles, who could say? They may have come up with a new idea.As for whether they'll allow us to go Super Sonic in any stage as long as you have 50 rings, I really think (and hope) that they will, since they're going all the way to make everything else like it was in the good old days. Why not this too?
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As someone who recently returned to the Sonic fandom at large, I've already done this topic to death, so I'll sum this up neatly:
Sonic 4 looks disappointing, but I hope I'm wrong.
Does we even do these things anymore?
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Going downhill?
As someone who recently returned to the Sonic fandom at large, I've already done this topic to death, so I'll sum this up neatly:
Sonic 4 looks disappointing, but I hope I'm wrong.
As someone who recently returned to the Sonic fandom at large, I've already done this topic to death, so I'll sum this up neatly:
Sonic 4 looks disappointing, but I hope I'm wrong.
Erm why?
High graphics, tried and tested style.
What's the reason for your disappointment.
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What's the reason for your disappointment.
...I considered giving an actual reply to this, but thought better of it, which is why I didn't elaborate in the first place. It's difficult to be comfortable elaborating on an opinion when you know most people will meet your grievances with blank looks and confusion.
To be blunt, I'm not going to open that can of worms around these parts, screw that. This isn't the place for me to go into detail on this. :/
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What's the reason for your disappointment.
...I considered giving an actual reply to this, but thought better of it, which is why I didn't elaborate in the first place. It's difficult to be comfortable elaborating on an opinion when you know most people will meet your grievances with blank looks and confusion.
To be blunt, I'm not going to open that can of worms around these parts, screw that. This isn't the place for me to go into detail on this. :/
Huh....meaning your the type of fanboy who won't be satisfied EVER?
Maybe....but that all I can figure as the reason you don't want to explain yourself.
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I don't know why Sonic fans get butthurt over sidekicks or new characters appearing in games to begin with. As long as the game is fun, who cares? Almost every new Mario game introduces new characters (i.e. Rosalina in Super Mario Galaxy), and no one complains over that.
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LySs wrote:
Sonic fans will never EVER be satisfied.
I don't know why Sonic fans get butthurt over sidekicks or new characters appearing in games to begin with. As long as the game is fun, who cares? Almost every new Mario game introduces new characters (i.e. Rosalina in Super Mario Galaxy), and no one complains over that.
I don't know why Sonic fans get butthurt over sidekicks or new characters appearing in games to begin with. As long as the game is fun, who cares? Almost every new Mario game introduces new characters (i.e. Rosalina in Super Mario Galaxy), and no one complains over that.
Even then Sonic Fans are probably more fickle and varied than us AA fans.
I consider myself quite a sonic fan and I've enjoyed most of the games, Sonic and the Black Knight was a problem, but I've got nothing really against any of the other games I played.
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Johnny Rotan wrote:
Oh, now that's just hilarious. You know what? I'll protest Mario Galaxy 2 by buying Galaxy 1. Again. That'll show Nintendo to make a new game!!! All new games are bad by default!!!
Also, a hedgehog looks like a mouse with needles :P
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What I don't understand is that if memory serves, Sonic perfected this illusion in Brawl, so it both proves that 3-D sonic can 'run' and makes me confused why Sega would back track.
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Wooster wrote:
If I had to make one complaint/comment about Sonic 4, it's that sonic's feet don't look like he's running nearly as fast as his old school counter parts. Blurring his feet in a circular motion looked a ton faster then Sonic kinda shuffling his feet. Honestly it looks to me like he should be running slower then he is.
What I don't understand is that if memory serves, Sonic perfected this illusion in Brawl, so it both proves that 3-D sonic can 'run' and makes me confused why Sega would back track.
What I don't understand is that if memory serves, Sonic perfected this illusion in Brawl, so it both proves that 3-D sonic can 'run' and makes me confused why Sega would back track.
I'd like to think that they're deciding how their going to do it, with or without a blur, but I'm just guessing and have no evidence. They better not leave it like it is now though. It looks like he's walking.
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The dissapointing bit is that it's episodic.
Seconded.
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And as someone who considers himself part of the Sonic fandom... yeah. We complain way too much. About really minor things like whether Sonic has green eyes or not. Well, at least some of us do.
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