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Anyways, do you like the series or not? What's your opinion?
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But it's okay from my limited knowledge of it. Tails is ADORABLE and so are the Chaos. <3 But from what I saw, Shadow the Hedgehog was a horrible game. Come on, a hedgehog with guns?
Veeeerry intimidating. And so were the little "damn it"s thrown in. Ooh, swearing! It's for BIG KIDS now!
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Timcampy-chan wrote:
Shadow the Hedgehog was a horrible game. Come on, a hedgehog with guns? Veeeerry intimidating. And so were the little "damn it"s thrown in. Ooh, swearing! It's for BIG KIDS now!
Veeeerry intimidating. And so were the little "damn it"s thrown in. Ooh, swearing! It's for BIG KIDS now!Yes, it's sad to see one of my if not my favorite childhood memories sinking in a level where I shake my head in shame. Shadow the Hedgehog is a pathetic game. >:(
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The only Sonic games I have ever cared about are:
-Sonic Adventure
-Sonic Adventure 2
-Sonic the Hedgehog
-Sonic the Hedgehog 2
-Sonic 3 & Knuckles
Though, I have yet to try Sonic and The Secret Rings. I must play that.
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Now it's Chaos Control this, Iblis Trigger that. And they add even more insignificant characters with each game (Blaze may be cool, but she's part of the lame 'alternate dimension' storyline). I'm not saying Adventure 1 and 2 were as bad as Shadow the Hedgehog. They were okay, but it started the decline of the series. The Sonic games are about speed, not finding broken gems or fishing.
I think the reason Sonic Rush turned out to be a success while the other recent games failed, is because the storyline was simple, no ridiculous alternate boss, no 'fail-to-be-mature content' and the game goes back to the basics, of just plain running. When they focused less on the running, that's when the franchise started to fall.
Okay, my rant is now over. I hope I didn't cause anybody to cry.
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But I is a Sonic fan. I liked the 2D games, Sonic Adventure 1 & 2, Sonic Rush and SatSR best. But I'm of the opinion that SA and SA2 are unfairly derided and misvalued; a game with just Sonic running was at the time boring. I think the 'Rot' set in at Sonic heroes because of its controls and gameplay mechanics, bad VA's and a ludicrous plot (SA2's plot was well thought out)
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Coppo wrote:
It's a shame the later games don't live upto the classics. I think they started screwing up when they kept putting the Chaos Emeralds as the storyline. Heck, they screwed up when they added a storyline. The classics were simple. Zip through all the zones, and destroy Dr. Robotnik's robots, while saving the little animals trapped in the capsules.
Now it's Chaos Control this, Iblis Trigger that. And they add even more insignificant characters with each game (Blaze may be cool, but she's part of the lame 'alternate dimension' storyline). I'm not saying Adventure 1 and 2 were as bad as Shadow the Hedgehog. They were okay, but it started the decline of the series. The Sonic games are about speed, not finding broken gems or fishing.
I think the reason Sonic Rush turned out to be a success while the other recent games failed, is because the storyline was simple, no ridiculous alternate boss, no 'fail-to-be-mature content' and the game goes back to the basics, of just plain running. When they focused less on the running, that's when the franchise started to fall.
Okay, my rant is now over. I hope I didn't cause anybody to cry.
Now it's Chaos Control this, Iblis Trigger that. And they add even more insignificant characters with each game (Blaze may be cool, but she's part of the lame 'alternate dimension' storyline). I'm not saying Adventure 1 and 2 were as bad as Shadow the Hedgehog. They were okay, but it started the decline of the series. The Sonic games are about speed, not finding broken gems or fishing.
I think the reason Sonic Rush turned out to be a success while the other recent games failed, is because the storyline was simple, no ridiculous alternate boss, no 'fail-to-be-mature content' and the game goes back to the basics, of just plain running. When they focused less on the running, that's when the franchise started to fall.
Okay, my rant is now over. I hope I didn't cause anybody to cry.
Cry? I actually cheered! Your are right in so many ways.
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Coppo wrote:
It's a shame the later games don't live upto the classics. I think they started screwing up when they kept putting the Chaos Emeralds as the storyline. Heck, they screwed up when they added a storyline. The classics were simple. Zip through all the zones, and destroy Dr. Robotnik's robots, while saving the little animals trapped in the capsules.
Now it's Chaos Control this, Iblis Trigger that. And they add even more insignificant characters with each game (Blaze may be cool, but she's part of the lame 'alternate dimension' storyline). I'm not saying Adventure 1 and 2 were as bad as Shadow the Hedgehog. They were okay, but it started the decline of the series. The Sonic games are about speed, not finding broken gems or fishing.
I think the reason Sonic Rush turned out to be a success while the other recent games failed, is because the storyline was simple, no ridiculous alternate boss, no 'fail-to-be-mature content' and the game goes back to the basics, of just plain running. When they focused less on the running, that's when the franchise started to fall.
Okay, my rant is now over. I hope I didn't cause anybody to cry.
Now it's Chaos Control this, Iblis Trigger that. And they add even more insignificant characters with each game (Blaze may be cool, but she's part of the lame 'alternate dimension' storyline). I'm not saying Adventure 1 and 2 were as bad as Shadow the Hedgehog. They were okay, but it started the decline of the series. The Sonic games are about speed, not finding broken gems or fishing.
I think the reason Sonic Rush turned out to be a success while the other recent games failed, is because the storyline was simple, no ridiculous alternate boss, no 'fail-to-be-mature content' and the game goes back to the basics, of just plain running. When they focused less on the running, that's when the franchise started to fall.
Okay, my rant is now over. I hope I didn't cause anybody to cry.
Your rant has nothing on the legendary WALL OF TEXT.
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Guess_Who wrote:
Your rant has nothing on the legendaryWALL OF TEXT.
Yikes.....it's too crammed together!
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I like Shadow the Hedgehog. Not just the character, but the game too. I don't really know how to describe it. I either like a game or I don't. But I agree, Sonic Rush is a step forward in the right direction. And thank Almighty God they're making a sequel.
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I didn't really care for the rest...
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And for those who say Sonic Rush was a step in the right direction, Sonic Advance 3 had already made said step, even if getting all the Chaos Emeralds is a bitch.
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DO NOT WANT. Crappy level design + stupid teamwork element = fail.
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TheDarkArchon wrote:
and Secret Rings (Which is BORING!).
Really? How so?
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Macbeth wrote:
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and Secret Rings (Which is BORING!).
Really? How so?
I heard that was good though, even though I never played it.
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Mighty Midget wrote:
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and Secret Rings (Which is BORING!).
Really? How so?
I heard that was good though, even though I never played it.
The missions are tedious and the controls suck, especially going backwards or jumping.
The game had so much potential but failed to come through.
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Guess_Who wrote:
The missions are tedious and the controls suck, especially going backwards or jumping.
While I won't argue about the missions (though opinion of them tends to vary by player), I strongly disagree about the controls. Sure, at the beginning they're fairly bad, but even with just a bit of leveling up and equiping a few abilities they open up and become much better. And just because the controls are more "on-rails" than most other Sonic games doesn't make them bad, either.
As for going backwards, I really don't find much problem with it myself, especially after levelling up some and equipping a few skills for it. Unless you mean the position of the camera to Sonic while backing up, which is probably one of the more obvious issues in the game.
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The game had so much potential but failed to come through.
I consider it the opposite in that the game had a lot to live up to, and it certainly delivered. It pretty much gave everyone what they've asked for since the first Sonic Adventure; a better camera, a story and gameplay solely based around Sonic and, most importantly, it restored a sense of speed that been rather diluted up to that point in the console games.
At any rate, SatSR is certainly leages above the mostly-mediocre Shadow the Hedgehog and the much more abysmal Sonic '06.
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The thing that annoyed me most is that Bozon said for SA2B that he had 'no idea why IGN Dreamcast gave this game a good review'. Thats just mad, back when it was released it dazzled and people spoke highly about it; it was excellent for then. Obviously they should've fixed bugs or done more with the 2 ports, but treating it as a contemporary game, rather than a game that came out a few years before is hopelessly biased.
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Blademaster_Orca wrote:
At any rate, SatSR is certainly leages above (...)the much more abysmal Sonic '06.
Agreed on that, though SA1 and 2 are much, MUCH better than either of them.
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Blademaster_Orca wrote:
At any rate, SatSR is certainly leages above the mostly-mediocre Shadow the Hedgehog and the much more abysmal Sonic '06.
Agreed on that. I'm not saying it's a bad game, but it left a lot to be desired.
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On the levels that requires precision, it even controls horribly.
The 3D games were never better.
Probably one of the worst popular game series out there.
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I liked all the original genesis Sonic Games (except for Sonic 3D blast which sucked). I also like all the 3D games except for Sonic Heros (first playthough was ok, fourth time doing the same damn thing was annoying) and the New Sonic for the 360 (CRAP!).
I went into Shadow the Headghog looking at it for what is was, a spin off title with themes but not a true Sonic sequel and I loved it. Being able to run fast while shooting at everything in front of your (or sword slashing) is alot of fun. My biggest complaints about previous 3D sonic games is that I had to stop moving to attack and repick up my speed, in ShtH you don't have to worry about that : )
I also did not like SatSR, I really wanted to. On paper its a great game, but in concept it falls flat on its face. Some of the missions are stupid and were optional in previous Sonic 3D games. Playing the (beat the stage) missions are awesome, but other then that the bosses were kind of annoying to fight and some of the missions were impossible. Also why does Sonic need to get level ups to RUN FASTER?! WTF! He's supposed to be the fastest thing alive! Also the party mode was stupid and the plot was retarded (most over the top PINKY SWEAR ever in gaming!).
Now if they could take the gameplay concept but put it to a more traditional level set up the game could have been awesome.
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Holy Hell wrote:
Sonic has always been a crappy game series. RUN REALLY FAST AND JUMP AND RUN AND RUN AND RUN AND DIE AND RUN AND RUN isn't exactly the best concept for a platformer game.
On the levels that requires precision, it even controls horribly.
The 3D games were never better.
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On the levels that requires precision, it even controls horribly.
The 3D games were never better.
Probably one of the worst popular game series out there.
Dude, imagine it's 1990. You pick up this game, and you would just have to be amazed. Such speed had never been done so well in any game. Sonic, with the first "set the controller down" animation in history, has more personality then any game character at the time. But I'm not going to bother arguing your points since I disagree with absolutely everything you just said. I will say this, however: the controls don't suck, you just suck at the game.
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Yes, I haven't played the original Dreamcast ones. I fail as a hardcore gamer. D:
Anyways, I really, really loved SA2B. The levels were fun, I liked the music and raising Chaos was just awesome. It's the Pokemon fan in me, but I just love raising cute little creatures and then making them beat the crap out of each other <3~
Rouge and Knuckle's stages were awful, especially the later ones, but you only had to complete them once.
Rush was excellent. I liked Blaze as a new character - lots of the characters newly introduced into the Sonic series make my eyes bleed, but Blaze was great. The levels were fun and interesting and I thought it had a lot of replay value.
Heroes was... fun the first time around. But I really couldn't be bothered going over the SAME level with a slight twist with every team. Too lazy. :/
I didn't like Riders too much. I suck monumentally at all racing games and it was no exception. I got beaten into the ground my my sister, who is one of the worst gamers ever... and my pride just couldn't take it.
Shadow scared me. I watched the entire opening with a "O.o" expression and that didn't really change throughout. The weapons and stuff were fun, but it just seemed so out of place in a Sonic game that it felt unnatural, I guess.
That and I kept dying on a stage there Charmy the freaking Bee kept coming and talking to me and all I wanted to do was kill him in the most violent way possible (did I just step on my point?).
I only got the Secret Rings recently and so far I'm not impressed. They tried to hard to give it a plot when they really didn't need to... the music drives me nuts and I hate the controls. They're not bad or dodgy, I just don't like them. :/ Maybe it'll get better as I go on, but it's not much fun yet.
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I think my favorite Sonic game of all time is Sonic 3 & Knuckles. I don't know why, but that one was just plain fun.
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Rouge and Knuckle's stages were awful, especially the later ones, but you only had to complete them once.
I didn't mind those levels as much as most people. I fould them to be a nice little change of pace, in fact they were the first levels I got all A's on. Now Tails' and Eggman's stages, now THERE was a headache. Those damn walkers operated horribly.
Overall, I did enjoy SA2. I had alot of fun playing it and it took me forever to get all the emblems. All that work, and what do I get to show for it? A 3D version of Green Hill. I don't think it was worth all the effort.
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Also HH, why does running and jumping make a series bad? For a start, Sonic has something Bubsy and even Crash doesn't, he has style. The games also have good level design and well though out badguys. Perhaps you may not have the knack to play Sonic, because you need serious reflexes and skills to jump over and into the right things at the right time. Plus the music is generally good.
If you're going to lash out on the concept, then what makes it different than a group of flashy dancers who try to solve the worlds problems by strutting their stuff. Oh, and you TAP AND TAP AND TAP AND ROLL AND TAP AND SPIN AND TAP AGAIN :3 Somehow EBA has that specialness about it and I feel the same way about Sonic ^_^
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BassForever wrote:
Holy Hell is there any games or game series you like? Just curious cause most of your post say "X is overrated" or "Y sucks" <.<
Oh, I do. I just tend to post in topics about video games I don't like. ;)
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Dude, imagine it's 1990. You pick up this game, and you would just have to be amazed. Such speed had never been done so well in any game. Sonic, with the first "set the controller down" animation in history, has more personality then any game character at the time. But I'm not going to bother arguing your points since I disagree with absolutely everything you just said. I will say this, however: the controls don't suck, you just suck at the game.
Sonic has personality because of a set-down animation? No. Not really. There were oodles of characters out at the time that had more personality than Sonic will ever hope to imagine.
The game was fast, but that doesn't mean jack shit. If it had actually been good, the speed would've been streamlined into the actual gameplay. There are very few times that you're jumping about and platforming while the actual super-running is going on, and moments where it's required, you just slow down or memorize the level layout. Oh wow, fun times.
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If you're going to lash out on the concept, then what makes it different than a group of flashy dancers who try to solve the worlds problems by strutting their stuff. Oh, and you TAP AND TAP AND TAP AND ROLL AND TAP AND SPIN AND TAP AGAIN :3
I'd say that sounds like an awesome game, which it is. :|
And when did I say running and jumping was bad? I'd have liked Sonic if it had been handled better.
I'm not going any further with the controls and the way he jumped. In arguments like that, the defenders just be assholes and say "lol u just sucked" and the arguer will be an asshole and just say state reasons as to why it's difficult to use. The retorts will just be "get better" and it's cyclical.
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Guess_Who wrote:
With the single exception of Sonic Rush, and possibly Advance 1, everything after Sonic Adventure 2 has sucked big time. :|
So, Sonic Rush DIDN'T suck? That's good to hear.
For me, I enjoyed the original games, even a few of the GG games (GGStH, in particular).
The anime is okay, I guess. It is based more on the modern Sonic games, and I heard it was fairly accurate (it's a JPN show based on a JPN game...how much more accurate can you get?). You gotta give SatAM its props, though.
I have to agree with most of you. Almost every game after the first Sonic Adventure just fell through. They need to REALLY go back and rethink the series.
Perhaps a SatAM game, maybe?
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Azure Flame wrote:
After Shadow the Hedgehog I basically gave up Sonic games. The last good one I played was Sonic adventure.
Games, maybe, but I still keep track of the series just in case they manage to pick themselves up.
Also, some of the music isn't all that bad.
Never played Shadow, but his theme (I Am....All of Me) was pretty decent, as was some of the tracks from Sonic Heroes (didn't like that game, BTW).
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I loved the two SOnic Adventure Games(especially 2), and I think I'm the only person alive that likes Sonic Heroes(thought I still haven't beat all the stories). And the sonic advances were also fun.
And I just love Sonic Rush-it was so much fun and the music was awsome. Yay for Blaze.
Haven't played SOnic the Hedgehog(Next Gen), but I hear it is a big pile of suck mixed with a cup of glitches and a little furry mixed in. Adn a crappy new Eggman(=a design I'm glad didn't stick around). guess it is worse than Shadow the Hedgehog(which I hadthe unpleasentry of playing).
Also, I liked Sonic X...'cept Chris-he was whiney and selfish('specially towards the end of season 1).
Can't wait to get Secret Rings though, it seems fun.
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