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Author:  CatMuto [ Mon Apr 13, 2015 4:51 pm ]
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God knows why they included Y'shtola in that game though


Cause Y'shtola was used for Curtain Call and they wanna keep the previous Dissidia rooster in?
No wait, I doubt that... that would mean we'd get Snow, Zack, Auron, Hope, Aerith and other characters that we actually want...

C-A

Author:  Pierre [ Mon Apr 13, 2015 4:56 pm ]
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Franzise Deauxnim wrote:
I get questionable anime thumbnails whenever I browse YT anyway so no big :yogi:

Also still holding out for Bikke the pirate for Dissidia



With 50+ characters and a limited roster for FF1 there's always a chance.

CatMuto wrote:
Quote:
God knows why they included Y'shtola in that game though


Cause Y'shtola was used for Curtain Call and they wanna keep the previous Dissidia rooster in?
No wait, I doubt that... that would mean we'd get Snow, Zack, Auron, Hope, Aerith and other characters that we actually want...

C-A


I don't know why they chose her for there either!

Still I'd like Snow in for sure, I'm always a fan of Monk-classes.
Also we need more physical villains in Dissidia and more magic users for the good guys.

Author:  tiger_festival [ Sat Apr 18, 2015 9:33 pm ]
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From a gameplay perspective, Type-0 is actually quite decent. Sure, there are a few things that most gamers would find annoying, but they never bothered me. The story is mostly straightforward and while the main characters are all underdeveloped, it’s made clear that the focus is on the war. Then the ending happens and uggghhh…
Spoiler: long spoilerrifc rant
Let’s start from the beginning of the last chapter. The war has ended and the party is on their way back to the Magic Academy. The “return to academy” option in the menu is disabled, so the savvy player knows something is about to go down. As soon as they get back, they find the academy half destroyed, corpses everywhere, Rem finally succumbs to her fatal disease, and a being known as the Lulusath attacking them. Also, it’s raining blood. The party then speaks to their mentor/mother figure who tells them that they have the right to decide their own fate. Defying your fate, even fate itself has almost never been mentioned prior. Maybe the fact that soldiers are reliant on commanding officers could count, but who would associate that with fate vs free will? She also reveals the nature of the Akashic Records, which has been brought up be a few NPCs: it’s states events that happened before they actually happen, similar to the Score from Tales of the Abyss, except instead of being an active force in the story, it’s never mentioned again.
They then find out that a temple has appeared, where the Arbiter will arrive. His existence has never been hinted at before. And Cid, who escaped in the previous battle, is in the temple. The party sans Rem and Machina (who left in the previous mission) follows him, and it leads to a sudden difficulty spike, in part due to the Lulusath Warriors, and the fact that you no longer have access to Eidolons or auto-heal. It’s actually legitimately challenging, coupled with foreboding music that makes it clear your chances of survival are low… then the Lulusath Warriors get an upgrade. Then it becomes cheap. Prior to that, you’re suddenly given a choice: become a l’Cie and save the world, or do so as a human. Picking l’Cie nets a sequence similar to the end of Crisis Core, in which you endlessly battle against Lulusath Warriors. Obviously, human is the right path.
You then get *sigh* a boss rush level. It isn’t too bad, as it warps you to various locations around the world to see the destruction the Lulusath Warriors have caused. You even have to fight a boss that required you to use an Eidolon before, making the fight mark the progress the characters have reached. But then you get to the Gilgamesh rematch. It’s the same fight as before, with one difference: THE FREAKIN ARENA IS CONSTANTLY BEING BOMBED. It just makes the fight unnecessarily annoying rather than difficult.
After the boss rush, you’re treated to a “climb before the hazardous liquid fills the room sequence.” For some reason, as soon as the player reaches the exit, the party is instantly killed, and warped to the next room where the party is greatly weakened. I think the intention is that they were caught in the dangerous liquid, but then why was it so easy to reach the exit?
The next room shows us a cutscene, which is a bit strange. Apparently when the party refused to become l’Cie, Rem accepted and fought the Mysterious l’Cie (who was so obviously Machina). Rem was killed, and Machina was turned to crystal shortly afterwards. You find their bodies in the room, then proceed onwards.
Then we find Cid. Turns out his body was taken over by the Arbiter, and the final boss fight begins. The party is still weakened, so it goes just as you’d expect. Then, somehow, Machina’s and Rem’s souls empower the party… because crystallized l’Cie can do that apparently, and the fight becomes easier that FFX’s final boss fight. Only difference is, FFX had Jecht to compensate for the final boss.
After the fight, the crystals are gone, magic is gone, and humanity has to make due with what they have left. The party then has a legitimately good scene. With the crystals gone, they’re now left to die just as their memories of their lost comrades come back. They come to accept it, and also discuss the fact that since the war ended, they would be free to do whatever they want. Then BUMP OF CHICKEN – Zero starts playing, and damn if it isn’t sad as hell… and then the game throws away any common sense it retained. Somehow, Machina and Rem came back to life, and discover the party’s corpses. AND THEN the game goes on to say that Machina and Rem became the leaders of the world that left the crystals behind. The problem with this is that Machina and Rem were both very clearly flawed characters; Machina let his brother’s death and his fear of losing Rem cloud his judgment into becoming a l’Cie. Rem kept her fatal illness hidden from everyone and became a l’Cie. At no point were we given any indication that they learned anything at all, and the ending goes ahead and rewards them.
The info revealed in the Codex isn’t much better. Cid’s motives regarding the war? The same as Doctor Cid from FFXII: rid the world of the crystals/gods and let humanity live for themselves. He planned to do this by first bringing about the start of the apocalypse, which is triggered by the unification of all the nations of the world. This would allow him access to the temple to challenge the Arbiter. Sorry, that doesn’t excuse him from murdering one of his own soldiers, or planning the assassination of Concordia’s queen, or the damage the world received from the Lulusath Warriors (which is exponentially higher than the damage the war brought about). The reason the party sans Machina and Rem can use magic without the crystal? Etro’s blood. Etro’s existence has not even been hinted at throughout the entire game, not even in the pages upon pages of history in the Codex. Doctor Acrecia? An entirely different goddess. Also, there are two cadets who were raised by Acrecia along with the party. Technically their existence has been foreshadowed, as the party’s names are all puns on playing cards (yes, they were the nation’s trump cards), and ten and Joker were missing. However, no info is given on what they were doing for the entire game. Nimbus? He killed himself off-screen. That last one is the worst, as he was an unbeatable plot boss earlier.
Maybe my opinion on this will change over time, but until then, uggghhh...

Oh and get this: there are more missions and a secret ending that can only be viewed on a new game plus. The game better be damn sure that it’s worth it.

Author:  Anthony [ Sun Apr 19, 2015 1:31 am ]
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I really question the fanbase of Lightning X Fang....

Author:  CatMuto [ Sun Apr 19, 2015 8:26 am ]
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Anthony wrote:
I really question the fanbase of Lightning X Fang....


Fang - already heavy lesbian supertext with Vanilla.
Lightning - no canon love interest.
Result - ZOMG TOTALLY SHIPPING THEM SLOBBER!!

Or they think cause Light hates Snow, she totally has no interest in ANY men, meaning she obviously is a lesbian.

Don't you love the logic of extreme shippers?

C-A

Author:  Anthony [ Sun Apr 19, 2015 1:56 pm ]
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Catty don't you support the shipping LightxHope? :eh?:

Author:  CatMuto [ Sun Apr 19, 2015 2:04 pm ]
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Anthony wrote:
Catty don't you support the shipping LightxHope? :eh?:


I do.
I merely pointed out (insane) reasons why people ship LightxFang.

C-A

Author:  tiger_festival [ Sun Apr 19, 2015 2:13 pm ]
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CatMuto wrote:
Anthony wrote:
I really question the fanbase of Lightning X Fang....


Fang - already heavy lesbian supertext with Vanilla.
Lightning - no canon love interest.
Result - ZOMG TOTALLY SHIPPING THEM SLOBBER!!

Or they think cause Light hates Snow, she totally has no interest in ANY men, meaning she obviously is a lesbian.

Don't you love the logic of extreme shippers?

C-A

You left out "because it's hot." Not that I ship it, but I've seen people use that rationale to justify their ships.

Author:  Anthony [ Sun Apr 19, 2015 2:36 pm ]
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CatMuto wrote:
Anthony wrote:
Catty don't you support the shipping LightxHope? :eh?:


I do.
I merely pointed out (insane) reasons why people ship LightxFang.

C-A


Sometimes Catty I wonder why the LightXHope.

Author:  CatMuto [ Sun Apr 19, 2015 2:39 pm ]
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I try to ignore those reasons. Insane reasons like "Well, she's already portrayed like a dyke" are better than "It's hot" in my eyes. Better than reasons like "They looked at each other for two seconds that one time".

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Sometimes Catty I wonder why the LightXHope.


I personally try to have better reasons to ship. Like with Light and Hope, I may ship them romantically, especially given certain scenes in Lightning Returns. Those seem pretty heavy-handed. Especially since XIII and XIII-2 did not show romance as being part of Light's character at all. Her lack of a romantic interest is pretty cool. Her having scenes with Hope in LR that seem to indicate potential romance are... well, hinting to me.

But at the same time, I can see the other side of the coin. I don't look at those same scenes as romantic, they end up looking like being about friendship or trust between them. I can see how people use stupid reasons to ship characters, but I try to not follow those examples. (Unless it's a crack pairing or just for the sake of hilarity - like Cecil and Kain in FF IV. I don't actually ship them, but I look at their lines as being hinting between the two. Cause it makes me laugh a bit.)

C-A

Author:  Anthony [ Sun Apr 19, 2015 5:36 pm ]
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I would post some Final Fanasy shipping pics but...... eh idk.

Author:  CatMuto [ Sun Apr 19, 2015 6:34 pm ]
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Anthony wrote:
I would post some Final Fanasy shipping pics but...... eh idk.


I think as long as its in the guidelines' okay area, it'd be okay.

C-A

Author:  Anthony [ Sun Apr 19, 2015 8:01 pm ]
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Define Okay?

Author:  Franzise Deauxnim [ Sun Apr 19, 2015 9:40 pm ]
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Not porn.

Author:  CatMuto [ Sun Apr 19, 2015 9:48 pm ]
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It might have a slightly sensual air about it, but not "porn". Like, I have a pic of Hope and Light leaning close together. Sensual, with no nudity (maybe some buttons on a shirt open but not revealing) and maybe even a bit aggressive. But not "porn".

C-A

Author:  Anthony [ Mon Apr 20, 2015 2:31 am ]
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Well then..... *closes out the rule 34 tabs of Lightning X Hope*

Author:  Anthony [ Thu Apr 30, 2015 4:00 am ]
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I found this soooooo enjoy. A new FF game.

Author:  Pierre [ Thu Apr 30, 2015 7:26 am ]
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Anthony wrote:


Yeah I've seen this too and its pretty rad. Shame it's arcade in Japan and therefore there's no guarantee it's coming here but a console release would sell a PS4 for me.

Author:  CatMuto [ Thu Apr 30, 2015 8:36 am ]
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Pierre wrote:
Anthony wrote:


Yeah I've seen this too and its pretty rad. Shame it's arcade in Japan and therefore there's no guarantee it's coming here but a console release would sell a PS4 for me.


I dunno, there are multiple Japanese Arcade games that got eventually re-released on consoles and localized. Like, Idolm@ster was originally an Arcade game. Then it was updated and released on the 360 and its sequel on both that and the PS3.

Image

Uh, last time I checked it happened 3 times, so...

C-A

Author:  tiger_festival [ Tue May 12, 2015 7:58 pm ]
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So I may have overreacted a bit. Type-0's ending isn't entirely out of nowhere, the foreshadowing is just both very cryptic and in your face at the same time. Of course, that doesn't absolve the ending of the other problems it has, some of which become even more apparent on a NG+.
Spoiler:
Like Cid, the ordinary human who thought he could kill the Arbiter by himself. Or Machina, the idiot who spent his time as a l'Cie following the crystal's orders who somehow possesses the leadership skills to lead the world after the apocalypse happened. Or Nimbus, the lvl 142 l'Cie who didn't even bother to try fight the lvl 99 Arbiter and killed himself instead.

But enough about the ending, NG+ promised several more missions and an alternate ending. Were they worth it?
...Hardly.
-Less than half of the new missions are of the same quality as the main game. Some of them provide a decent challenge, while some some of them are ridiculously hard.
-The length of them range from five minutes to five minutes, and they all lack save points.
-Even with the new scenes, Gilgamesh still amounts to just a cameo. Take out the fact that he's named Gilgamesh and that Clash on the Big Bridge plays when you fight him, and he's nothing more than a palette swap of another enemy who disappears as quickly as he appears, then reappears for no reason. Supposedly you can face his true form on a third playthrough, but why the hell would anyone make a superboss that can only be accessed on a third playthrough?
-And that alternate ending... oh god that alternate ending...
Spoiler:
"Ending" is misleading. "Official high school AU fanfiction" is more accurate.

The one good thing I can say about the NG+ missions is that the HD release didn't turn them into DLC.

EDIT: Fought true form Gilgamesh. Most fun battle in the game. Should have been in the main story.

Author:  CatMuto [ Sun May 31, 2015 8:28 pm ]
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Image

Yes, I made that image-text combo and yes, I totally had to. It just fit so well. Well, not that Bhunivelze and Hope are split personalities, but you know what I mean

C-A

Author:  tiger_festival [ Tue Jun 16, 2015 10:42 am ]
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Squeenix announced a FFVII remake for PS4.
In other news, GameFAQs has officially restarted the FF fandumb wars.

Author:  CatMuto [ Tue Jun 16, 2015 1:11 pm ]
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sumguy28 wrote:


I'm not clicking the link, but I kinda doubt things'll work out.

C-A

Author:  dullahan1 [ Tue Jun 16, 2015 2:52 pm ]
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Well, it's the real deal. I'm concerned how true though SE will stay true to the original FF7, especially considering how serious they take Cloud's character. Remember Wall Market? Cross dressing, prostitution, Cloud ending up in a brothel, full of a bunch of naked men, and so on. I can't help but wonder HOW they're going to get by all this content. It was okay back when the graphics were clunky and much left to the imagination, but do you really think Square is willing to show this all in glorious HD? FF7, I'd think, would need an M rating if they did.

Author:  Pierre [ Tue Jun 16, 2015 3:17 pm ]
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I'm curious to see what they'll do with Cloud's character now they have more mediums (audio and enough graphics to portray emotions) to develop it in.

What I'm saying is: I'm afraid they'll break down the character that Cloud became in favour of the dark miserable depressed one he regressed to for advent children.

But we'll see. I did enjoy FF7 so a full on remade version might be worth buying.

Author:  dullahan1 [ Tue Jun 16, 2015 6:01 pm ]
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Yeah, Zack/Cloud (FF7 Cloud) is WAAAAAAY more interesting than Advent Children Cloud. I still don't understand their whole direction on why Cloud needed to be emotional and brooding. Wasn't Vincent already doing that?

Author:  Pierre [ Tue Jun 16, 2015 6:32 pm ]
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dullahan1 wrote:
Yeah, Zack/Cloud (FF7 Cloud) is WAAAAAAY more interesting than Advent Children Cloud. I still don't understand their whole direction on why Cloud needed to be emotional and brooding. Wasn't Vincent already doing that?


If I remember I heard the Geostigma infection was giving him plenty reason to be depressed but I don't really buy it considering how perfectly his personality matched his pre-coma self at the time.

I guess they just thought "cool brooding loner" like they started with for him.

Author:  Rubia Ryu the Royal [ Tue Jun 16, 2015 8:20 pm ]
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I'm having so much more fun watching all these reaction videos on Nico. The actual trailer itself was kinda disappointing, actually, but as a teaser trailer, it works. I'm glad it's finally here, anyway.

If anything, I just want to see the weapons rising in HD. It was pretty impressive in the original, but they have room to improve on it.

Author:  CatMuto [ Tue Jun 16, 2015 8:31 pm ]
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dullahan1 wrote:
Well, it's the real deal. I'm concerned how true though SE will stay true to the original FF7, especially considering how serious they take Cloud's character. Remember Wall Market? Cross dressing, prostitution, Cloud ending up in a brothel, full of a bunch of naked men, and so on. I can't help but wonder HOW they're going to get by all this content. It was okay back when the graphics were clunky and much left to the imagination, but do you really think Square is willing to show this all in glorious HD? FF7, I'd think, would need an M rating if they did.


They'll severely edit it or maybe cut it out entirely. As for Cloud's serious character, well, considering we've had a screenshot of AC Cloud crossdressing floating around for years, hopefully they'll keep it in. At least his insanely dumb line of "How do I put (this dress) on?". I mean, I know he's a guy, but it's not freaking rocket surgery - I'm pretty sure if I looked at a jockstrap, I could figure out how it would be put on and worn.

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What I'm saying is: I'm afraid they'll break down the character that Cloud became in favour of the dark miserable depressed one he regressed to for advent children.


They'll most likely be heavy on the brooding guy. Which is weird, I mean wasn't Cloud's majority of his brooding part in the game when he was in a coma? (And a bit after that)

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Yeah, Zack/Cloud (FF7 Cloud) is WAAAAAAY more interesting than Advent Children Cloud.


Funnily enough, I much prefer Cloud in Crisis Core. Mostly cause he's not brooding, he's not whatever about things. He's just a sweet kid. (And since I'm about 10 years his senior when he initially appeared in Crisis Core, I feel I'm old enough to refer to a 14-year-old Cloud as a kid) Though I admit, I much, MUCH prefer Zack over any of Cloud's other incarnations.
Him being voiced by Suzumura Kenichi is just the tip of the iceberg-OMG I HOPE THEY ADD A SCENE WHERE WE CHECK OUT ZACK'S PAST AND WE HEAR HIM TALK! WITH AERITH! ZOMG ZAERITH VOICEACTORS FTW!! :pearl-blush:

My fangirl just exploded... sorry...

I'm slightly curious how they'll do with Aerith's death. Ooooh please keep the part in where Cloud jerked his crotch into her praying face when I pressed buttons to proceed! Though I guess her death will still be bloodless. And I doubt they can make her scene look any less of a necessary sacrifice to me.

C-A

PS: They had better bring Dual Audio. I will not listen to Rick Gomez and ... Steve Burton (?) for Zack and Cloud. And also not for whoever they'll pick THIS time to voice Aerith. (Andrew Brown did a good job in Crisis Core, but... come on, if it's a choice between her and Sakamoto Maaya, it will be the latter for me.)

Author:  tiger_festival [ Tue Jun 16, 2015 9:03 pm ]
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Quote:
Well, it's the real deal. I'm concerned how true though SE will stay true to the original FF7, especially considering how serious they take Cloud's character. Remember Wall Market? Cross dressing, prostitution, Cloud ending up in a brothel, full of a bunch of naked men, and so on. I can't help but wonder HOW they're going to get by all this content. It was okay back when the graphics were clunky and much left to the imagination, but do you really think Square is willing to show this all in glorious HD? FF7, I'd think, would need an M rating if they did.

Type-0 HD had an M rating for using exploding corpses as a gameplay mechanic, so it's not like they'd be pushing any line with this. I'm more concerned about how they could make Cloud- erm, "Miss Cloud" look convincing in 1080p.

Author:  CatMuto [ Tue Jun 16, 2015 9:57 pm ]
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sumguy28 wrote:
I'm more concerned about how they could make Cloud- erm, "Miss Cloud" look convincing in 1080p.


Image

I dunno, I think this looks pretty decently convincing.

C-A

Author:  Pierre [ Tue Jun 16, 2015 10:04 pm ]
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CatMuto wrote:
sumguy28 wrote:
I'm more concerned about how they could make Cloud- erm, "Miss Cloud" look convincing in 1080p.


Image

I dunno, I think this looks pretty decently convincing.

C-A


My immediate thought was "looks more like Lightning."

Then again, Lightning was designed as a female version of Cloud anyway...

Oh god they are going to make Cloud cosplay as Lightning...

/unsold

Author:  tiger_festival [ Tue Jun 16, 2015 10:09 pm ]
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CatMuto wrote:
sumguy28 wrote:
I'm more concerned about how they could make Cloud- erm, "Miss Cloud" look convincing in 1080p.


Image

I dunno, I think this looks pretty decently convincing.

C-A

Is that a single edited screenshot or was that actually animated? A lot of subtleties become much clearer when in motion. Basically, that screenshot may look convincing but once Miss Cloud starts breathing and walking, the facade may become much more transparent.

Author:  CatMuto [ Tue Jun 16, 2015 10:26 pm ]
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Pretty sure it's just a screenshot. I mean, if you look at the shading of the clothes, you can tell it has some problems and mistakes, but the hair looks pretty decent. And, well, most FF characters are already designed to be pretty and androgynous, so crossdressing is even easier.

C-A

Author:  dullahan1 [ Wed Jun 17, 2015 12:24 am ]
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CatMuto wrote:
dullahan1 wrote:
Well, it's the real deal. I'm concerned how true though SE will stay true to the original FF7, especially considering how serious they take Cloud's character. Remember Wall Market? Cross dressing, prostitution, Cloud ending up in a brothel, full of a bunch of naked men, and so on. I can't help but wonder HOW they're going to get by all this content. It was okay back when the graphics were clunky and much left to the imagination, but do you really think Square is willing to show this all in glorious HD? FF7, I'd think, would need an M rating if they did.


They'll severely edit it or maybe cut it out entirely. As for Cloud's serious character, well, considering we've had a screenshot of AC Cloud crossdressing floating around for years, hopefully they'll keep it in. At least his insanely dumb line of "How do I put (this dress) on?". I mean, I know he's a guy, but it's not freaking rocket surgery - I'm pretty sure if I looked at a jockstrap, I could figure out how it would be put on and worn.



Honestly, that's what I feel too. The question is though, would they do that for the rating or for the sake of Cloud's character. If all that stuff is in, I will be pleasantly surprised. While I found that part insanely uncomfortable, at the same time, it had some downright hilarious scenes.

Author:  CatMuto [ Wed Jun 17, 2015 9:10 am ]
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Wallmarket is the only honestly funny scene for me in the game... well... scene that was most likely intended to be funny. As said, I still laugh whenever I see Aerith die. As for Cloud's character, I dunno, I mean a serious and brooding character can still say some hilarious stuff in a serious voice. Even if it's unintended, it can come off as hilarious.

And on an entirely racist note - I think Barret will either be whitened up a bit or his anger will be lessened. I mean, this world seems SO super conscious with being PC, I don't think a Angry Black Guy is gonna sit well with them. I hope they don't go the route of Sazh and make him a funny joke character later on... Funny Black Guy is probably not all PC, either.

C-A

Author:  Pierre [ Wed Jun 17, 2015 10:35 am ]
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CatMuto wrote:
Wallmarket is the only honestly funny scene for me in the game... well... scene that was most likely intended to be funny. As said, I still laugh whenever I see Aerith die. As for Cloud's character, I dunno, I mean a serious and brooding character can still say some hilarious stuff in a serious voice. Even if it's unintended, it can come off as hilarious.

And on an entirely racist note - I think Barret will either be whitened up a bit or his anger will be lessened. I mean, this world seems SO super conscious with being PC, I don't think a Angry Black Guy is gonna sit well with them. I hope they don't go the route of Sazh and make him a funny joke character later on... Funny Black Guy is probably not all PC, either.

C-A


If he's whitened up then it's only going to be in a 'personality' aspect. You see him in the trailer and he looks basically like his Advent Children component.

Author:  CatMuto [ Wed Jun 17, 2015 11:10 am ]
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I wonder what they'll do with Tifa's hair. Use the AC open hair but make it longer? Or are they now able to animate the... dolphin-tail.

C-A

Author:  tiger_festival [ Wed Jun 17, 2015 11:17 pm ]
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CatMuto wrote:
What lore did you not know or understand in XIII that you'd even need to know it to proceed, play and understand the game and its story?
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Most things to do with Cid, anything to do with the greater Gods of XIII, the Cavalry, Jihls Nabaat's role in anything (other than being vaguely evil in some unexplained way), the Politics of the world.

The politics part, especially. Skipping past the part about the possibility of humans surviving the ending events, we have no reason to believe that the remaining humans are even capable of reforming civilization. Since the only people smart enough to know that the Purge was bad were turned into Ceiths in Orphan's Cradle, the only people left that we know of are only capable of blindly following Barthy. Who's going to lead these guys? What about doctors and engineers who previously relied on equipment powered by the fal'Cie? How are they going to stabilize society now? There's so many ambiguities about this that their future seems unlikely to- wait nevermind, the beginning of XIII-2 says they're doing just fine. They even found a new source of power. How? Because humans are special snowflakes that can do anything.

Author:  CatMuto [ Thu Jun 18, 2015 8:39 am ]
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Quote:
Most things to do with Cid, anything to do with the greater Gods of XIII, the Cavalry, Jihls Nabaat's role in anything (other than being vaguely evil in some unexplained way), the Politics of the world.


What was so hard to understand about Cid? If you mean his turning into a statue, well that was a red herring.
Great Gods? Who cares.
Cavalry is like Avalanche, only they don't blow things up. They just kill certain people.
Jihl was a decoy villain, I guess you'd say.
Who cares about the politics?

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Skipping past the part about the possibility of humans surviving the ending events, we have no reason to believe that the remaining humans are even capable of reforming civilization. Since the only people smart enough to know that the Purge was bad were turned into Ceiths in Orphan's Cradle, the only people left that we know of are only capable of blindly following Barthy. Who's going to lead these guys? What about doctors and engineers who previously relied on equipment powered by the fal'Cie? How are they going to stabilize society now? There's so many ambiguities about this that their future seems unlikely to- wait nevermind, the beginning of XIII-2 says they're doing just fine. They even found a new source of power. How?


Considering XIII originally wasn't supposed to have sequels, we can do nothing but guess what would have happened - I suppose professionally trained PSICOM people would hunt the monsters for food and scout the areas to see what would be a somewhat safe area to build shelter in. As for the civillians, they toughen up.

I admit, I find it a bit hard to believe that after only 3 years the civillians have built a shelter and things are that hunky-dory for them in it without it being unsafe. I would think maybe a few more years would pass before they could build a bigger shelter, especially with houses that seem as sturdy as the Nora house, and that flimsy little fence I have to jump over seems like it can easily be destroyed by even the frog enemies... but Sera was hitting 21 which is practically getting close to the middle-age for RPG heroes and letting her get closer to age 25 would mean she would be absolutely pointless in battle because she's past her prime. (Sazh is in his thirties, yes, but as you see - he's turned into a jokey character, shoved aside in XIII-2 and LR and he was once married so he's not a Christmas Cake)

New source of power? ...what source of power? I don't remember right now...

C-A

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