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Also the weird harem thing with Rex is majorly uncomfortable for me. Especially when the women are literally objects and weapons...and Rex is notably underage
Same. I was willing to let the "Blades are not people" bit go, if only because I got the impression the game wanted us to see them as people rather than as tools and/or minions, but I still have trouble shipping a boy who strikes me as having just started puberty with someone who strikes me as eighteen at the absolute youngest (technically, she's at least several hundred years old). Usually, being canon is reason enough for me to support a pairing, but if it feels too forced or unstable to me, the pairing just ends up feeling uncomfortable to me.
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Also the weird harem thing with Rex is majorly uncomfortable for me. Especially when the women are literally objects and weapons...and Rex is notably underage
Same. I was willing to let the "Blades are not people" bit go, if only because I got the impression the game wanted us to see them as people rather than as tools and/or minions, but I still have trouble shipping a boy who strikes me as having just started puberty with someone who strikes me as eighteen at the absolute youngest (technically, she's at least several hundred years old). Usually, being canon is reason enough for me to support a pairing, but if it feels too forced or unstable to me, the pairing just ends up feeling uncomfortable to me.
Like the "Blades are people too" works pretty well but it raised a lot of questions for me that mechanically the game didn't support. For example what about the legions of generic blades that I used and tossed away over the course of the game?
Also the concept of these blades as people gets weird when Corinne mentions a bunch of old stories where Drivers married their Blades. I mean sure one day Rex will grow old enough for a relationship while Pyra won't change at all but for the here and now in the game it's downright weird to see how everyone else ships them despite being underage.
Still perhaps it's a cultural thing in Alrest. Still a little uncomfortable which can actually be said for a lot of the character's designs. I really like Perun but man that weird pole-dance animation around her spear seems so out-of-character for her. I never got Dahlia but I've seen how she's designed and it'd be enough to make me uncomfortable playing the game on the bus.
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For example what about the legions of generic blades that I used and tossed away over the course of the game?
Exactly. I'm reminded of one of the main problems the Pokémon games have to deal with. No matter how much the narrative says "these guys aren't just tools for you to use and discard as the situation demands," the mechanics still say "these guys are tools for you to use and discard as the situation demands."
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That's not to say I didn't enjoy the game so much.
Just maybe age up Rex a little and give him a better voice actor and I think that's the worst of my problems solved.
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For example what about the legions of generic blades that I used and tossed away over the course of the game?
Exactly. I'm reminded of one of the main problems the Pokémon games have to deal with. No matter how much the narrative says "these guys aren't just tools for you to use and discard as the situation demands," the mechanics still say "these guys are tools for you to use and discard as the situation demands."
One reason why I liked the plot of Gen V. The villains claim to first want to liberate them, but then Ghetsis drops all pretences and basically says that, yeah, he will use Pokémon because that's what they are: tools. And anyone who says otherwise is kidding.
Plus, even so, you have your preferences. Many people don't like the Zubat-line; it's a decent Pokémon, but if you find a better Pokémon or one you like much more, you are very likely to plop Zubat into a PC and leave it there.
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I remember people saying that Spec Ops: The Line intentionally was mediocre because it wanted to highlight the underpinning theme that "war isn't fun and has consequences" but that might just be a cop out.
Eh there's many other games out there to get away from the wartime fun. Last time I enjoyed a War Game was medal of honour frontlines (or Rising Sun).
I did hear that new WWII game was alright.
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I'm pretty deterred by this prospect, I don't trust gamers online enough to not just be huge trolls and ruin the experience for everyone, plus I feel whenever you do something like this it detracts a bit from well-crafted narratives based on how you need to structure your gameplay design. Least its not permadeath.
Still...Elder Scrolls VI got a tiny tease so whoop!
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Well, it seems to me more of your average shooter than anything, though it's surprisingly popular.
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Nothing quite like learning that two characters who differ immensely share a VA. I recently learned that Verse, arguably Tyranny's cruelest party member, shares a voice actress with Josephine Montilyet, of all people.
God, it's so jarring when I find out stuff like this. The Sam Riegel Teddie/Phoenix one is pretty weird, but by far the most bizarre one I've come across is that P5 Kawakami's VA is the same one as...Ahlbi. Huh.
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General Luigi wrote:
Nothing quite like learning that two characters who differ immensely share a VA. I recently learned that Verse, arguably Tyranny's cruelest party member, shares a voice actress with Josephine Montilyet, of all people.
God, it's so jarring when I find out stuff like this. The Sam Riegel Teddie/Phoenix one is pretty weird, but by far the most bizarre one I've come across is that P5 Kawakami's VA is the same one as...Ahlbi. Huh.
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Really hope there's some more interaction in that game cause I liked the systems and combat but that was really frustrating and I hope it's not that way throughout the game.
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How good is the series? In terms of characters - are they likeable? If they aren't, do they at least go through development to make them so, before one might lose interest? How's the dialogue? Stilted or sounding natural?
Will I have to play the first game to understand VLR, which is the second one? Or are they unrelated-related, to the point that one could jump in late and not be too confused?
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I read that Virtue's Last Reward took the trust mechanism, which was originally intended for the Danganronpa beta version (called Distrust). This sounds interesting and, from what I know, I don't know any spoilers about the Zero Escape series.
How good is the series? In terms of characters - are they likeable? If they aren't, do they at least go through development to make them so, before one might lose interest? How's the dialogue? Stilted or sounding natural?
Will I have to play the first game to understand VLR, which is the second one? Or are they unrelated-related, to the point that one could jump in late and not be too confused?
How good is the series? In terms of characters - are they likeable? If they aren't, do they at least go through development to make them so, before one might lose interest? How's the dialogue? Stilted or sounding natural?
Will I have to play the first game to understand VLR, which is the second one? Or are they unrelated-related, to the point that one could jump in late and not be too confused?
You can play VLR without playing Nine Hours, Nine Persons, Nine Doors and understand most of what's going on, but VLR also spoils most of 999.
If you asked me, 999 is the superior of the two. VLR isn't as good but it's near the same level.
First game's on DS, second on 3DS and Vita, both received a remaster in Zero Escape: the Nonary Games for PS4/Vita/PC. Dual-audio is available.
Edit: I should mention, VLR ends on a cliffhanger which leads into the third and final game, Zero Time Dilemma. And that game did away with the visual novel format and went with stiff low-budget cutscenes.
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CatMuto wrote:
I read that Virtue's Last Reward took the trust mechanism, which was originally intended for the Danganronpa beta version (called Distrust). This sounds interesting and, from what I know, I don't know any spoilers about the Zero Escape series.
How good is the series? In terms of characters - are they likeable? If they aren't, do they at least go through development to make them so, before one might lose interest? How's the dialogue? Stilted or sounding natural?
Will I have to play the first game to understand VLR, which is the second one? Or are they unrelated-related, to the point that one could jump in late and not be too confused?
How good is the series? In terms of characters - are they likeable? If they aren't, do they at least go through development to make them so, before one might lose interest? How's the dialogue? Stilted or sounding natural?
Will I have to play the first game to understand VLR, which is the second one? Or are they unrelated-related, to the point that one could jump in late and not be too confused?
I like the series a lot, it's much better than Danganronpa to me. It's definitely a visual novel with puzzle sections in it though, so you kinda have to pay attention during those scenes if you want to understand the game properly. The characters are likeable, though not all of them, obviously. But there are some really good ones which undergo natural development. The dialogue is also natural from what I remember.
You can play VLR without playing 999, but it does spoil some elements from the ending of that game, so I recommend 999 first. VLR is my personal favourite though.
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CatMuto wrote:
I read that Virtue's Last Reward took the trust mechanism, which was originally intended for the Danganronpa beta version (called Distrust). This sounds interesting and, from what I know, I don't know any spoilers about the Zero Escape series.
How good is the series? In terms of characters - are they likeable? If they aren't, do they at least go through development to make them so, before one might lose interest? How's the dialogue? Stilted or sounding natural?
Will I have to play the first game to understand VLR, which is the second one? Or are they unrelated-related, to the point that one could jump in late and not be too confused?
How good is the series? In terms of characters - are they likeable? If they aren't, do they at least go through development to make them so, before one might lose interest? How's the dialogue? Stilted or sounding natural?
Will I have to play the first game to understand VLR, which is the second one? Or are they unrelated-related, to the point that one could jump in late and not be too confused?
I gave 999 and VLR a shot, and idk, I much preferred AA. Mainly in that, AA has actual gameplay, a majority of Zero Escape is just cutscene- characters talking to each other with little input or thinking from the player besides pressing a. If you like these sorts of games, then I'd say give it a shot. The characters are generally more well written than in Danganronpa, and go through more development too.
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CatMuto wrote:
I read that Virtue's Last Reward took the trust mechanism, which was originally intended for the Danganronpa beta version (called Distrust). This sounds interesting and, from what I know, I don't know any spoilers about the Zero Escape series.
How good is the series? In terms of characters - are they likeable? If they aren't, do they at least go through development to make them so, before one might lose interest? How's the dialogue? Stilted or sounding natural?
Will I have to play the first game to understand VLR, which is the second one? Or are they unrelated-related, to the point that one could jump in late and not be too confused?
How good is the series? In terms of characters - are they likeable? If they aren't, do they at least go through development to make them so, before one might lose interest? How's the dialogue? Stilted or sounding natural?
Will I have to play the first game to understand VLR, which is the second one? Or are they unrelated-related, to the point that one could jump in late and not be too confused?
I gave 999 and VLR a shot, and idk, I much preferred AA. Mainly in that, AA has actual gameplay, a majority of Zero Escape is just cutscene- characters talking to each other with little input or thinking from the player besides pressing a. If you like these sorts of games, then I'd say give it a shot. The characters are generally more well written than in Danganronpa, and go through more development too.
Well, yes, mainly due to the fact that they are mostly visual novels, hence cutscenes being a major part of it. There are puzzle rooms there anyway, which definitely require a lot of thought and can actually be very difficult.
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While looking, I saw the symbols indicating what the game contains, and one symbol for Later + Crowd was the gender symbols. I hovered over it... Sexual Content.
What!? Are you guys serious? Well, unless the Japanese ratings system is different from the western on in terms of determining what counts as 'sexual content', I am not so sure what to think of this. I've played majority of Later. I still haven't done Orion's route, but so far, I have not seen actual sexual content. Sure, maybe there was an indication of sex having taken place between the heroine and one of the guys in their respective After Stories, or maybe a teasing hint of Oohh, la, la, indications of wanting to~
But all of that has been behind black screens. Trust me! If there had been full-on visual, sexual content with Ikki... I would've made mention of that in my Let's Play!
So, either this 'sexual content' is found in Crowd or they simply mean the implication of there having been sexual contact in-game as sexual content. Speaking of, World also had that...
Oh, and I checked the first game's symbols, just to see if it contained that, too... it didn't.
It did contain "Love" -- makes sense, it's an otome game.
And "Crime" -- Uh... well, the heroine does get stabbed and killed in other ways in bad endings, but... once again, nothing visual.
I just had to mention that.
It seems so weird, and funny.
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That's stupid.
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Do I see this right? I NEED a Nintendo Account to download anything from the Nintendo e-Shop on the Switch?
That's stupid.
That's stupid.
No...that's common practice. It protects you if a switch gets stolen, broken or lost too because they'll have your purchases stored in that account to redownload in an emergency.
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CatMuto wrote:
Do I see this right? I NEED a Nintendo Account to download anything from the Nintendo e-Shop on the Switch?
That's stupid.
That's stupid.
No...that's common practice. It protects you if a switch gets stolen, broken or lost too because they'll have your purchases stored in that account to redownload in an emergency.
I have a Nintendo Network ID. That should be enough. (And those are, apparently, not the same thing. I tried, they still insisted I make a Nintendo Account)
Well, guess I'll just not get any DLC for BoTW, then.
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CatMuto wrote:
Pierre wrote:
CatMuto wrote:
Do I see this right? I NEED a Nintendo Account to download anything from the Nintendo e-Shop on the Switch?
That's stupid.
That's stupid.
No...that's common practice. It protects you if a switch gets stolen, broken or lost too because they'll have your purchases stored in that account to redownload in an emergency.
I have a Nintendo Network ID. That should be enough. (And those are, apparently, not the same thing. I tried, they still insisted I make a Nintendo Account)
Well, guess I'll just not get any DLC for BoTW, then.
Yeah I think they turned around their system for the Switch.
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I notice that no one's bothered to talk about Kingdom Hearts III in the three weeks since it's been released (and the actual Kingdom Hearts thread hasn't seen any activity in five years). Do we just not have any fans among the forum's current regulars?
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I have been avoiding everything KH3 related until I get my hands on a PS4.
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General Luigi wrote:
I notice that no one's bothered to talk about Kingdom Hearts III in the three weeks since it's been released (and the actual Kingdom Hearts thread hasn't seen any activity in five years). Do we just not have any fans among the forum's current regulars?
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Full disclosure: I haven't played the game, though I've read a synopsis of the plot.
I'm right at the end of the game! Decided I'd do all the sidequests I could get my hands on before finishing it. It's good but there's some things I would have done differently particularly with the battle system and the endgame boss fights.
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After investing so much time into this sidequest I think I'm just going to need to turn around and ignore whatever lies beyond it.
Curse this game.
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