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I started watching this show at my university's Anime Club and I got completely smitten with this show by episode 3. Out of all the shows we'd watch, this one was the one that got the entire auditorium gasping and screaming and cheering. It's probably the most fun I've had at that club. We only watch new shows from that season, so this year we won't be watching it together, sadly. Still, I've been watching it weekly ever since it reached the 9th episode.

---- Episode 22 stuff -----
SO YEAH, fast-forward to today, and wowwowwowwow that was another great episode, and seems to just rub salt in the wound that last week's episode gave everyone. Also, I heard that the part with the bodies flung off the cart was anime-only? Woah. I assume that means that the moment where Levi realizes he can't attack (because his leg is injured) is also anime-only. It felt pretty important to his character, however short that moment was: Levi, the best of the best, hurts his leg a bit and suddenly is powerless to help in the situation.

There's so much I just want to blab about, but I won't be very coherent about it (how flippin' painful it was to see the families of the deceased, how much I felt for Eren when he just lies there and cries, how fascinated I am by Mikasa whose weakness seems to be letting personal issues get in the way of her work) but I'm really curious about this part of the episode, showing the sliced-up female titan:
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Is she crying?? Or is her eye just watering from an earlier injury? And what reason would she have to cry? (well ok she just basically failed whatever her plan was, so maybe that's it).
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Surprised the bodies being thrown off the carts was anime-only, it was quite the natural progression when you decide to gather bodies from Titan territory. And I think the salt in the wound wasn't the families being oblivious, but rather that Squad Levi died like idiots. Yeah, some of that just seemed like cheap emotional manipulation for people who were secondary characters at best.
I somehow don't think it was Levi's foot that stopped him fighting. At that point, they could only really kill the Female Titan if they continued, and he knows she's more useful taken alive. That, and they risked Eren if they yet again underestimated her, and he's too valuable to be lost.
As for why the female Titan seemed to be cryin, could well be frustration at failing after all that. Or perhaps regret that she was forced to kill so many, like perhaps this wasn't her plan at all, but someone higher up than her, and she's just one of their best soldiers (as much as you can class a Titan as a soldier.)
Then again, she seemed to be enjoying herelf some of the time, but that could've been her trying to demotivate the Survey Corps to more easily reach Eren. But is she working for Titan higher-ups, or human ones? Because I'm still maintaining there's some vast conspiracy within the walls.

Anyway, holy shit, Levi's fast when he's pissed.
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I suppose the whole family scene all depends on how much the deaths from last episode affected you, so if the deaths didn't mean much then it makes sense that this episode wouldn't feel quite so sad. Even though I knew they'd stay as secondary characters, I found them interesting enough as a group to want more development out of them (I get the feeling we'll get some post-mortem development for them), and we since we've seen how Levi really does care for his team, what probably hurt more for me is the effect it's having on Levi (and Eren I suppose since he's repeatedly told TRUST IN THE HEART OF THE CARDS OR YOUR FRIENDS OR WHATEVER and he's like OMG YES I HAVE COMRADES THIS IS SO GREAT and then he realizes this isn't a happy shounen and they all get massacred).

About Levi's foot, I should clarify that I don't mean it kept him from fighting the female titan; it was clear there that his goal was only to rescue Eren, and once he had him there was no reason to risk their lives against an unpredictable enemy. What I meant was that moment with the two titans chasing after the carts. We get a shot of his leg, showing that he's at least not in the best condition to fight, and then Mikasa's the one who ends up taking down the titan.

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As for why the female Titan seemed to be cryin, could well be frustration at failing after all that. Or perhaps regret that she was forced to kill so many, like perhaps this wasn't her plan at all, but someone higher up than her, and she's just one of their best soldiers (as much as you can class a Titan as a soldier.)
Then again, she seemed to be enjoying herelf some of the time, but that could've been her trying to demotivate the Survey Corps to more easily reach Eren. But is she working for Titan higher-ups, or human ones? Because I'm still maintaining there's some vast conspiracy within the walls.



Oh wow. That was my entire train of thought right there.

Anyway, this weeks episode - good as always. Not much to say about it though. The only thing that made be curious was the female Titan crying.

Oh, and I now ship Mikasa x Levi. ^^;;
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The deaths in this episode were, to me, significantly sadder than the deaths of Squad Levi. Probably, the saddest part about their deaths were Eren's reaction to it and Petra's dad's enthusiasm when they return, possibly without her dead body (it's not like we know whose bodies got fed to the Titans, after all...).

Speaking of Levi... He reminds me even more of Edgeworth, now. Freaking secret softies. At any rate, yeah, I was wondering about that leg of his... There's no snippet of him getting it treated or anything. Does that mean he just kind of rolled with it and pretended he wasn't hurt even though it clearly decided how much he'd be fighting later on, or was it really just an anime-only explanation? The former could be used as foreshadowing for a later event, I think...

I find it funny how Mikasa's usually like "Meh" until Eren gets endangered/hurt, at which point she goes Rage Mode and stops thinking, period. And then Eren gets all upset that she saved him (again)...

And ARGH I forgot about Spinning Levi. I'll probably do that between classes or something; I have too much time then and a good portion of it goes to waste...
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Mikasa's priorities: Eren, Eren, Kill Titans, Eren, Armin, Eren, Eren, Look cool in front of others.

Seriously, she's a great character and I understand where her love from Eren comes from since he saved her life, but holy cow this chick can get obsessed with him. Sure people would freak or go into full rage mode if they saw their best friend eaten by titans and whatnot, but I get the feeling if any other girl even looked at Eren bashfully, Mikasa would kill her in a heartbeat.
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And that was chapter 30 of the manga plus a ton of new content. Had they adapted just ch30 they would have covered half an episode, but the fact they made stuff up to fill it up confirms my theory: the season will end with the conclusion of the Female Titan arc, and a TITANIC (lulz) WALL (2x lulz) OF TROLLING due to the cliffhanger.

Spoiler: The Updated Reaction-Prediction List
Ep. 21:
-First half: OH GOD NO D: KILL THE FUCKING BITCH
-Second half: That was friggin epic, but what the hell just happened?

Ep. 22:
-First half: My eyes need washing, they can't stand any more epicness. Also by this point Levi becomes 10.000.000x the badass he was before.
-Second half: the feels man THE FEELS :c :c

Ep. 23:
I... I *KNEW* it >:0

Ep. 24:
... :0 :0 :0 ... ... :I :I :I ... ... Okay when is next week?

Ep. 25:
[no words due to GIGANTIC BLOWING OF THE MIND IN THE CLIFFHANGER]


I still don't get why some of you guys weren't affected by Squad Levi's deaths. I swear to God I was crying when it all happened. Specially Petra, I liked her a ton :c

This episode concludes the feels parade, let me tell you. Next week is a "transition"/development episode, and after that comes a two-part finale of epic proportions.

Okay I've decided to stop reading the manga so one day I can watch the anime alone and be surprised all at once by it, and not the manga. I hope I can pull that off.

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And I think the salt in the wound wasn't the families being oblivious, but rather that Squad Levi died like idiots. Yeah, some of that just seemed like cheap emotional manipulation for people who were secondary characters at best.


They did not die like idiots. They were desperate to follow their orders, which were very clearly "Get Eren out of harm." They could have shown this better in the show (the manga doesn't do any better of a job at that, really), but in my mind it was an immediate connection, Edgeworth Logic Mode style: "The huge OP Titan is after Eren" + "Eren is humanity's last hope" = "We have to fight the huge OP Titan to stop her from getting Eren even if it costs us our life"

At least that's my mind-canon, but it all makes sense that way. In any case, I liked Squad Levi as a group and as individual characters. If they had only gotten more time, trust me, the fan reaction would have been a collective "NNNUUUUU".

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Mikasa's priorities: Eren, Eren, Kill Titans, Eren, Armin, Eren, Eren, Look cool in front of others.

Seriously, she's a great character and I understand where her love from Eren comes from since he saved her life, but holy cow this chick can get obsessed with him. Sure people would freak or go into full rage mode if they saw their best friend eaten by titans and whatnot, but I get the feeling if any other girl even looked at Eren bashfully, Mikasa would kill her in a heartbeat.


It's cute in an anime sort of style. In real life it'd be very very creepy.

Thing is, if this weren't a japanese production, they'd be going through the trouble of developing a brother-sister relationship, even if a damaged one. But dem japanese apparently get their kicks out of a girl wanting to boink his brother and him giving zero fucks at all.
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Okay I've decided to stop reading the manga so one day I can watch the anime alone and be surprised all at once by it, and not the manga. I hope I can pull that off.


Good luck with that; no seriously, I wish you luck because I won't be able to stand waiting till the next season shows up (anyone know how long it usually takes when an anime announces a second season? Say, from the moment of the announcement to when it actually airs? I'm curious since I'm waiting on Psycho Pass right now too and I'm not sure how long I'm expected to wait. I'M IMPATIENT.) I haven't read the snk manga yet, but as soon as episode 25 airs, I'm reading aaaaaall of the manga so far. I've been spoiled quite a bit for a couple twists (which is largely my fault, that's what I get for going on tumblr and following manga-readers) but I don't know the motivations or circumstances behind almost any of it, so I just wanna know things before I get spoiled online again, and lurk on manga discussions.

And for anyone who's read the manga, at least up to the point of the anime, I have a question. I was in a bookstore a couple weeks ago and flipped through a manga chapter that I knew was already covered by the anime... and there were a couple pages that I'd never seen before? The chapter around that point I believe was centered around the ginormous woods they'd entered to avoid the female titan. At the beginning of that chapter...
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There's a flashback about someone writing in a notebook, and I think they got eaten? I dunno, I started to think it was spoilery so I flipped through it quickly, but I think Hanji and Levi picked it up and mentioned the name of the notebook owner, a name I didn't recognize at all so I can't remember it.

My memory's already hazy on that part, so if it doesn't make sense, feel free to ignore it. :yogi:
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I don't think that small chapter had anything to do with the overall plot of the story. I think it served more as a kind of side story showing a little in depth of the relationship between human and titan. Of course, we all know how that ends. I still thought it was interesting.

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I'm curious since I'm waiting on Psycho Pass right now too


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I don't think that small chapter had anything to do with the overall plot of the story. I think it served more as a kind of side story showing a little in depth of the relationship between human and titan. Of course, we all know how that ends. I still thought it was interesting.


That actually makes me think it might have been an important scene... :yuusaku:
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That one-shot was Ilse's Notebook, which will be animated as an OVA to be included in the first volume of the home video release of the anime as far as I know.

Story-wise, it's really weird and has stuff that I can't wait to see animated, you'll see something you never expected to see. Continuity-wise it seems unrelated to the story at first, and then you keep reading the manga and it turns out it's related, although to what extent I still don't know.
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Ooh, thanks for all the answers o3o I didn't even know there'd be an OVA. And there's definitely gonna be a season 2 right? Right? Like, they're just stalling on the announcement till this season's over?
*sweats* 8D;;

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Well I finally caught back up with SnK. Mikasa continues being a one dimensional character, and I still don't really care for her.
I honestly don't feel anything during the deaths.

Anyone that's not a main character *cougherenmikasaarminlevi* has the highest chance of dying. Only feels I got was when Petra's dad went up to Levi and talked about marriage. Those guys that went back to get Ivan's body? Pfft. Both of them shoulda been eaten. That'll teach them to be dumb!

Also,
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Hell, I've expected major secondary character (Jean, Sasha, Reiner, that lot) deaths by now, was always expecting minor ones. It's not like we're watching Powerpuff Girls and suddenly BUBBLES IS DEAD LET'S SHOW HER BLOATED CORPSE FLOATING DOWNRIVER.

That said, yeah, I liked Squad Levi, but charging an enemy with unknown potential who's quite possibly pulling a wounded gazelle gambit is a terrible idea (especially when some of you should surely survive to, y'know, escort the highly important person you're with), not one that should be enacted by the very best of the Survey Corps.

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Hell, I've expected major secondary character (Jean, Sasha, Reiner, that lot) deaths by now, was always expecting minor ones. It's not like we're watching Powerpuff Girls and suddenly BUBBLES IS DEAD LET'S SHOW HER BLOATED CORPSE FLOATING DOWNRIVER.


I think I'd lose my shit if Jean died.
Connie, Sasha, Reiner not so much.

Pretty much the only characters I really care about are Levi and Jean. Everybody else is pretty useless. Especially Eren. Fucking Eren can't do anything.
Dammit Kaji Yuki.
I think the hype for this show is waning for me. Mikasa's character NEVER changes and it's bothering me.
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Bets on Erwin Smith dying? I hope he doesn't, because then it's game over, but he and Dot Pixis are far too competent and useful to survive this series. Levi I think's far too OP to not be dead by the end, too.

Well, either that or my prediction of the final shot in the series being Levi, standing on top of everything in the world's corpses, looking bored as usual.

And with the Female-Titan-Who's-So-Totally-Not-Obvious-Who-She-Is, I was kind of rooting for her. And I'm sure Eren will be useful at some point, if he just doesn't rush in all stupid, he can remember his Titan form also has legs with which to stamp on things, and teeth to tear at things.

And Armin's still my favourite of the main trio, he's the one that's actually thinking things through. And he actually interacts with the others from the old training regiment. Which is always a plus, NPC interaction secondary character interaction.

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I'm betting useful people will die in the hypothetical second season. Eren's still gotta go through Shounen trials to perfect his Titan powers.
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Dammit, Blak, you keep posting while I'm editing and it's not telling me!

And even though he's ostensibly the main character, it won't be Eren figuring out whatever mystery's behind all this. And do we even need to say hypothetical? Surely they see how popular this is, and they want all the money. So surely it's a definite second season. Either that or it wraps up all the many questions that are yet to be answered in either format in a hastily-rushed ending, and they'll run out of ink, too. Eren wakes up on a big blue ball with Marco congratulating him. By which point everyone's forgotten who Marco even was.
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I remember Marco! He's now half the man he once was!
I say hypothetical second season cause unless it's absolutely confirmed, second seasons don't exist!
Valvrave confirmed a second season within the first month of it airing, and Hajime no Ippo finally got its third season after about 5 years.

Sure a SnK second season is a smart move, but who knows when it'll be. It could be next year or it could be 5 years from now. For all we know, SnK could end with an ending completely different from the manga and end the whole anime series!

Yeah! I'll just throw out all these hypotheticals!

Edit: Just remembered. Where's my fucking second season for JoJo's?!
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Episode 25: Everyone gets hugged and turns into Tang dies. Everyone. Turns out this was actually in the Star Wars universe, Death Star appears in orbit for a test run before Alderaan, boom, no more Titans, no more characters, no more series.

Or omething less dramatic, but I think nuking them from orbit's the way to go. Or blowing up the whole planet. Only way to be sure.
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And that's how Shingeki no Kyojin the anime series, ends!
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It was all a fake-out for a Production IG-run, Star Wars anime. With Grand Admiral Thrawn voiced by Norio Wakamoto. Or an Aliens one. It was a season-long viral teaser for something.
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It was all a fake-out for a Production IG-run, Star Wars anime. With Grand Admiral Thrawn voiced by Norio Wakamoto. Or an Aliens one. It was a season-long viral teaser for something.


With ufotable being the animating studio. Lightsaber duels have never been sexier!
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While having Eren turn into a Titan is one advantage and all, the hell could he do against the Colossal Titan? Gnaw at its ankles?
Speaking of which, I hope there's still plenty of maneuver gear fighting of Titans, Titan-on-Titan's cool and all, bt not as cool as flying through the air turning on dimes and spinning lots. I suppose if they just use Eren's ability for "Oh shit it's a human-Titan, bite your hand, Jaeger!" and let him show off the skills that got him into the top ten in the first place against regular Titans, that'd work.

And of course there's the usual stupid crowd reaction of "you killed characters you created, you're a horrible person, writer!"
Guess what? People die when they're going out and fighting giant man-eating zombies. That's why they're fighting them in the first place. There should be named characters among the casualties, and there have been since the very beginning of the series. It's perfectly in fitting with the setting. Same goes for people who hate George RR Martin for killing characters, have you been paying any attention to the franchise you claim to enjoy? Anyway, you get the point of my poorly-structured mini rant.
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Hate to double post, but boom, knew Armin had it sussed.

Also, Annie x Armin OTP.
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Lots of things happened this episode, but there's only two things I'll say right now:
1. I never quite understood where that horseface Jean joke was coming from but OHMYGOOOD EREN SAID IT, I WAS LAUGHING SO BAD.

2. When the hell did Yu Narukami join the Military Police?
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I feel like Annie's laugh should have been more manic this episode.

And that's all I have to say for now, it seems.
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Obvious plot-twist was anticlimatic as I expected.
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We all knew it was coming.

New non-manga content on this one too, mainly the Marlo development. I feel he'll be important in latter parts of the series, or at least, he'll most probably appear again. Hopefully, with a better haircut.

I like this anime-only content, it moves the story forward without having to completely change its direction. I hope they keep doing it just like they did with the episode and the previous one. I don't recall them having done it previously.

My (twice revised) Reaction Prediction List Nobody Cares About is about to be proven right.

Spoiler: Yup, this again.
Ep. 21:
-First half: OH GOD NO D: KILL THE FUCKING BITCH
-Second half: That was friggin epic, but what the hell just happened?

Ep. 22:
-First half: My eyes need washing, they can't stand any more epicness. Also by this point Levi becomes 10.000.000x the badass he was before.
-Second half: the feels man THE FEELS :c :c

Ep. 23:
I... I *KNEW* it >:0

Ep. 24:
... :0 :0 :0 ... ... :I :I :I ... ... Okay when is next week?

Ep. 25:
[no words due to GIGANTIC BLOWING OF THE MIND IN THE CLIFFHANGER]

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Blak The Great wrote:
Obvious plot-twist was anticlimatic as I expected.

What plot twist, the identity of the female titan? I didn't think that was supposed to be a plot-twist for the audience by this point. The big focus on Annie at the beginning should've confirmed suspicions that anyone had. Rather, I was under the impression that the big twists of this episode were:
- The plan wasn't to free Eren necessarily, but to trap Annie
- Annie had Marco's gear
And the slow reveal of her identity was more of a game between the three of them and Annie, slowly nudging the conversation toward the obvious reveal to see who's gonna say it first. At least, that's the impression I got of this episode. :yogi:
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I've been feeling pretty bored these past few episodes since plot-points are getting a tad more predictable. Had a feeling that the Survey Corps was gonna try to something to reveal the female titan's identity/corner the fucker.

To me, it's becoming more of a chore to keep up with the show now. I'm just getting really tired of Eren's ever increasing uselessness, Mikasa's stagnant character development, and Armin being overshadowed.

It's mainly Eren's fault. Little bastard should've died in that stomach. Do something useful already!
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They don't :c

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Ah, anime fans. Can't get enough of 'em.

In any case, sorry for feeding you guys bad info without checking it: The OVA, Ilse's Notebook, will not be bundled with the first home video release, but rather, with a Limited Edition of the manga's Volume 12, to be released December 9 (At least according to this)

The rest I'm pretty sure it's true :P
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Blak The Great wrote:
I've been feeling pretty bored these past few episodes since plot-points are getting a tad more predictable. Had a feeling that the Survey Corps was gonna try to something to reveal the female titan's identity/corner the fucker.

To me, it's becoming more of a chore to keep up with the show now. I'm just getting really tired of Eren's ever increasing uselessness, Mikasa's stagnant character development, and Armin being overshadowed.

It's mainly Eren's fault. Little bastard should've died in that stomach. Do something useful already!


I completely agree with you. I miss how surprising the first 5 episodes were. They had things you never saw coming and the plot moved on very quickly. Not that I dislike slower episodes, I just miss the big plot twists.

And Eren is always just there. Not doing anything, he's just there.
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And Eren is always just there. Not doing anything, he's just there.


He's like a little chihuahua. The little bastard's always barking his head off, but when push comes to shove he does absolutely nothing. Then he gets pissed when Mikasa's gotta save his sorry ass.
Don't like the idea of being saved by a girl?! Stop being a little bitch and level up already!
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Mikasa's hardly done any of the saving of Eren anyway, it's all been dumb luck mixed with Armin's real main character abilities, and then a dose of OP Levi. Eren and Mikasa both want to be badass, and think they are, but Armin's the real hero of the three. And if you ask me the anime just keeps on supporting that.
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Mikasa's hardly done any of the saving of Eren anyway, it's all been dumb luck mixed with Armin's real main character abilities, and then a dose of OP Levi. Eren and Mikasa both want to be badass, and think they are, but Armin's the real hero of the three. And if you ask me the anime just keeps on supporting that.


I was gonna bring that up too.
Armin's overshadowed a lot and even though he hasn't done anything cool Titan-killing wise, his tactical intellect makes up for that.
Oh and Jean would've made a much better main character than Eren.
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Blak The Great wrote:
Hylian100 wrote:
Mikasa's hardly done any of the saving of Eren anyway, it's all been dumb luck mixed with Armin's real main character abilities, and then a dose of OP Levi. Eren and Mikasa both want to be badass, and think they are, but Armin's the real hero of the three. And if you ask me the anime just keeps on supporting that.


I was gonna bring that up too.
Armin's overshadowed a lot and even though he hasn't done anything cool Titan-killing wise, his tactical intellect makes up for that.
Oh and Jean would've made a much better main character than Eren.


Jean's had much, much more development than Eren. Hopefully Eren can actually pull off being a main character one of these days, we'll see.
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Plot twist: Eren really is Jean.
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Plot twist: Eren really is Jean.


Then they really do have the right person in the carriage :O
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Ah, but they don't want Eren, they want Jean!
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