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Ash wrote:
Did some reading the last few days:
Kindaichi Shounen no Jikenbo R 1[i]: the currently running series, which lends its title to the TV show. Hajime and Miyuki work a part time job during a test panel for a ski resort. Of course, murder happens. Or does it? This story, while doing nothing really surprising for the series, has some points of interest, as it deals with disappearing people and bodies, so it's never really clear whether something really has happened (of course, considering this is [i]Kindaichi Shounen, something has happened). In fact, I liked this opening story better than most of the stories in the 20th Anniversary series.
Oh, and funny that they used the opening scene of this story, as the opening scene of the currently running TV show!
Takatoo Shounen no Jikenbo (AKA Takato's Side): hey, you can read it for free through Kodansha's MangaBox (even in English!). But I wouldn't. Granted, the idea of an one-shot exploring Takato sounds alluring, but the result is 1) a story that is basically the same as the Seven School Mysteries of Fudou High (Takato joins magic club at school, upperclassmen get killed in locked room and disappears...), 2) with a trick so easy to see that you'd hardly need Takato for that. Pretty disappointing.
Kindaichi Shounen no Jikenbo R 1[i]: the currently running series, which lends its title to the TV show. Hajime and Miyuki work a part time job during a test panel for a ski resort. Of course, murder happens. Or does it? This story, while doing nothing really surprising for the series, has some points of interest, as it deals with disappearing people and bodies, so it's never really clear whether something really has happened (of course, considering this is [i]Kindaichi Shounen, something has happened). In fact, I liked this opening story better than most of the stories in the 20th Anniversary series.
Oh, and funny that they used the opening scene of this story, as the opening scene of the currently running TV show!
Takatoo Shounen no Jikenbo (AKA Takato's Side): hey, you can read it for free through Kodansha's MangaBox (even in English!). But I wouldn't. Granted, the idea of an one-shot exploring Takato sounds alluring, but the result is 1) a story that is basically the same as the Seven School Mysteries of Fudou High (Takato joins magic club at school, upperclassmen get killed in locked room and disappears...), 2) with a trick so easy to see that you'd hardly need Takato for that. Pretty disappointing.
But wasn't 'Takato Shounen' fanmade or something? It had quite a few plot holes as far as I'm concerned.
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Not sure if the upcoming holiday spin-off's considered canon too though... >_>
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I picked out the killer really early, though.
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Spoiler: Takato's Side
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Anyway if you want something awesomely suspensful that also has pretty nonsensical ending and reasoning there, you should try "Doubt" by Tonogai Yoshiki. It's Horror that tries to be mystery but I thought the atmosphere in that is one of the best I've seen... Really good artwork too, the pages don't feel completely wasted.
I don't think I've seen anyone make a review of Doubt yet anyway...
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Spoiler: Doubt
Which reminded me of that one Death Note ripoff series but that was just so bad that I don't want to remember the name.
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Death Note ripoff(?): Mirai Nikki/Future Diary?
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...That was silly.
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Oh, there's a new live action TV series coming! While I didn't like the story of last year's TV special (^the Kowloon treasure story), I did appreciate the direction the team was going for (based on Tsutsumi Yukihiko's [TRICK, 20th Century Boys] original drama series starring Doumoto Tsuyoshi), and I quite liked this year's adaptation of Gokumonjuku Satsujin Jiken, so looking forward to it!
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There's also that 'running gag' with the murders that... (probably kinda spoilerific until you have seen about half of the original series, I guess):
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SuperAj3 wrote:
I started watching the anime series of Kindaichi Shounen and I'm enjoying it! It's a lot more serious than Detective Conan, and a little too much indiscriminate killings if you ask me, but still I want to keep watching.
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Glad to know you're liking it ! Yeah, the series is kind of a whodunnit/slasher blend, so bloodbaths are quite common
when done right, it really sets a creepy and thrilling atmosphere we typically don't see in Conan, though. Also :
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SuperAj3 wrote:
I started watching the anime series of Kindaichi Shounen and I'm enjoying it! It's a lot more serious than Detective Conan, and a little too much indiscriminate killings if you ask me, but still I want to keep watching.
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Glad to know you're liking it ! Yeah, the series is kind of a whodunnit/slasher blend, so bloodbaths are quite common
when done right, it really sets a creepy and thrilling atmosphere we typically don't see in Conan, though. Also :
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Also, I found that Kindaichi has a new series airing this year! I watched the first case (The Kowloon Treasure murder case) and even after many years, the anime is just like the 1998 series (Kindaichi's monologues and all.)
Spoiler: Kindaichi R
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It's not that bad honestly... Timeless universes.
Sometimes drama is cool and it's necessary to set certain atmosphere around the case and make it more memorable.
One of the problem with the series is indeed that the characters don't learn anything. Maybe it's the fact that the cast needs character development or fleshing out? Although that may be a bit too much asked depending on how the writers are limiting their work since it's episodic. For some reason the recurring characters do seem to know the cast so I don't really understand... That obviously means that the time does pass in a fleeting comic book timeline/whatever it was called.
I was just reading bomber case in DC and it's kind of hard not to start comparing the series here. It's where Sera was trying to get the snipers to kill the dude, until Ran and Conan showed her that there is another way to deal with the case, instead of let the real culprit get away and the bomber die. After that Sera seemed to change a bit and try to understand them instead of questioning their methods or other silly things and she kind of cares about the characters in her own weird way, I like the scene where Heiji tells Sera that she can't come to that one building where they were supposed to go to solve a case xD...I do wish that the people that are at morally wrong/bad side would do a suicide more often in Conan, though.
Same with Amuro, he was too childish during his introductory case that he couldn't think straight and just tried to push Kogoros friend as the culprit because he has some kind of unhealthy superiority complex with everyone (Shuiichi). Although I think he's more of a Joker-type where you can't really tell the characters personality or character traits since he keeps switching between serious-normal-clown.
Other people like Haibara, Subaru, Takagi and Sato come to mind also.
About the latest episode... I like Takato alot (even if he has a rehashed backstory) and I'm really hyped to see the current case get finished so I can mini-marathon it. I don't like to say this but sadly I really disliked the "Takato Shounen no Jikenbo" series. It's the perfect example of why shock value, and badly done at that, doesn't mean that the quality is suddenly up there.
Anyway there is this "Kindaichu Shounen no Ippaku Futsuka Shouryokou" which I assume is a new series or something, haven't checked it out myself. Anyone read it yet?
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SuperAj3 wrote:
Also, I found that Kindaichi has a new series airing this year! I watched the first case (The Hong Kong Poison Dragon case) and even after many years, the anime is just like the 1998 series (Kindaichi's monologues and all.)
Spoiler: Kindaichi R
Trivia about The Kowloon Treasure Murder Case (spoilers):
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Anyway there is this "Kindaichu Shounen no Ippaku Futsuka Shouryokou" which I assume is a new series or something, haven't checked it out myself. Anyone read it yet?
Just a gag-manga, and not a funny one either.
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Ash wrote:
Hatshinit wrote:
Anyway there is this "Kindaichu Shounen no Ippaku Futsuka Shouryokou" which I assume is a new series or something, haven't checked it out myself. Anyone read it yet?
Just a gag-manga, and not a funny one either.
Oh... OK.
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Also please make sure you watch the series in order and avoid reading anything at all related to it, since there's some continuity to some extent, you could get spoiled about some episodes you have yet to see !
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Also please make sure you watch the series in order and avoid reading anything at all related to it, since there's some continuity to some extent, you could get spoiled about some episodes you have yet to see !
Ah, thanks. And yeah, I've been watching the series in order (I'm one of those that doesn't like skipping cases). However I have been watching the original series and the Returns in tandem, and the current case airing (The Gokumon Juku murder case) seems to have a connection to an older episode. Luckily the whole case hasn't aired yet, so I'm hoping that I can fill in the gaps and to get the background knowledge. Although it's not that bad, considering the writers probably know some of the younger audience may not have read/watched the older cases and hence don't know some of the recurring characters.
Also, @Ash;
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Ah, thanks. And yeah, I've been watching the series in order (I'm one of those that doesn't like skipping cases). However I have been watching the original series and the Returns in tandem, and the current case airing (The Gokumon Juku murder case) seems to have a connection to an older episode. Luckily the whole case hasn't aired yet, so I'm hoping that I can fill in the gaps and to get the background knowledge. Although it's not that bad, considering the writers probably know some of the younger audience may not have read/watched the older cases and hence don't know some of the recurring characters.
Yeah, I haven't watched this one yet so I don't know exactly how much is shown in the first two parts, but I'd advise against watching more until you've reached a certain point in the original series. You'll see why.
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Yeah, I haven't watched this one yet so I don't know exactly how much is shown in the first two parts, but I'd advise against watching more until you've reached a certain point in the original series. You'll see why.
Ok then!
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Ah, thanks. And yeah, I've been watching the series in order (I'm one of those that doesn't like skipping cases). However I have been watching the original series and the Returns in tandem, and the current case airing (The Gokumon Juku murder case) seems to have a connection to an older episode. Luckily the whole case hasn't aired yet, so I'm hoping that I can fill in the gaps and to get the background knowledge. Although it's not that bad, considering the writers probably know some of the younger audience may not have read/watched the older cases and hence don't know some of the recurring characters.
Yeah, I haven't watched this one yet so I don't know exactly how much is shown in the first two parts, but I'd advise against watching more until you've reached a certain point in the original series. You'll see why.
Hm? Why?
Who's come back in Returns?!
Is it Itsuki??
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Bad Player wrote:
Hm? Why?
Who's come back in Returns?!
Is it Itsuki??
TELL ME IT'S ITSUKI
Who's come back in Returns?!
Is it Itsuki??
TELL ME IT'S ITSUKI
Spoiler: Character returns in 'Returns' so far
If those characters I've mentioned have spoilers attached to them, please don't mention them, as none of their background was ever mentioned in the Returns, so I've been treating them as new characters, and haven't looked them up. (And I'm intentionally not reading into them at all, in order to keep the suspense.)
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Bad Player wrote:
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Ah, thanks. And yeah, I've been watching the series in order (I'm one of those that doesn't like skipping cases). However I have been watching the original series and the Returns in tandem, and the current case airing (The Gokumon Juku murder case) seems to have a connection to an older episode. Luckily the whole case hasn't aired yet, so I'm hoping that I can fill in the gaps and to get the background knowledge. Although it's not that bad, considering the writers probably know some of the younger audience may not have read/watched the older cases and hence don't know some of the recurring characters.
Yeah, I haven't watched this one yet so I don't know exactly how much is shown in the first two parts, but I'd advise against watching more until you've reached a certain point in the original series. You'll see why.
Hm? Why?
Who's come back in Returns?!
Is it Itsuki??
TELL ME IT'S ITSUKI
Gosh, another Itsuki fan, bro fist !
Though I must say :
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Hatshinit wrote:
I think Reika already appeared in the alchemy case, and I don't think her appearance really spoils anything... important... at all about her...
She also appears in the OP, so...
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Someone said that the case would end this week and I watched the episodes and it's still going to next week.. This is taking forever now, I wonder what the pacing with the chapter count/ep is currently... Oh well...
So I found out the current Returns case is based off a live action film they did of the same case, and so I guess they're trying to retell the case in as much detail as possible in the Anime. tbh, I thought it would've ended after File 4,
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The anime will skip next week it seems, and return (ha!) the week after together with the new live action series Kindaichi Shounen no Jikenbo N(eo), with the same team behind the two recent live action TV specials.
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Looks like this season will include only 4-5 parts long cases, save for the stand alone one earlier. Great news since the 2 and 3 parts ones always feel rushed IMO !
Nope; the next episode (19 July) is also based on a short story, and considering it's already tagged as file 1, this case will be one of two files, as it's a really short story (just three chapters).
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Ash wrote:
The live-action series Kindaichi Shounen no Jikenbo N(eo) will start tonight with a two-hour special based on The Murderer of the Silver Screen. Preview trailers also showed that The Game Mansion Murder Case will also appear in the series.
Considering the Kindaichi R series has only two long story to go, I wonder if that means that some of the remaining arcs will remain exclusive to either the live action version or the anime one.
Also, the so far french-only earlier episodes (50-82) are gonna see an english release soon, some of them translated by me no less
more news soon !
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