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I'm not sure if anyone made this topic, but this is about (as the topic says) Things common in movies that tend to piss you off.

Here are my three big ones.

-It turns out the whole movie was a dream, similar to episodes of shows like 'Who shot J.R.'

-Shaky Cameras. I was okay with it in Last broadcast and the first Blair Witch movie, but then It gotten BEYOND terrible for me.

- Thriller movies where they are in the most Dark desolate place so you KNOW there is going to be an intended Scare coming up.
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Whenever a character is just...miraculously saved. Theres a term for it which translates to "god in a box" I think. But an example is pretty much any of the HP books. Chamber of Secrets. Harry pulls the sword out of the hat randomly....:|

anyway. I dont remember a specific movie but I've seen it before.
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I spent five minutes looking at BH's avatar. ._. Again.

Although I hate all cliches, here's one I want to murder.

Orphan. With. A. Fucking. Tragic. Past.
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You mean "deus ex machina"? I'm so proud of myself for remembering that. XD Anyway, my least favorite cliche is pretty much rom-coms in general.
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Comfortably Numb wrote:
You mean "deus ex machina"? I'm so proud of myself for remembering that. XD Anyway, my least favorite cliche is pretty much rom-coms in general.


yes!! machine...box...all boils down to same concept. Props to you for remembering it!
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Other ones I hate are;

Tragic pasts.
People with superpowers.
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-Strong woman meets guy.

-Guy falls in love with woman.

-Woman gives up everything that is important to her and changes herself just so she can be with guy.

I.E. nearly every Disney princess movie ever.
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Mafiosa wrote:
-Strong woman meets guy.

-Guy falls in love with woman.

-Woman gives up everything that is important to her and changes herself just so she can be with guy.

I.E. nearly every Disney princess movie ever.

Except Beauty And The beast.

But to remedy that, change 'woman' to 'guy, and 'guy' to 'woman'.
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FUCKING 500 ERRORS. D:<

Occult Wanderer wrote:
Mafiosa wrote:
-Strong woman meets guy.

-Guy falls in love with woman.

-Woman gives up everything that is important to her and changes herself just so she can be with guy.

I.E. nearly every Disney princess movie ever.

Except Beauty And The beast.

But to remedy that, change 'woman' to 'guy, and 'guy' to 'woman'.


The Beast looked like a girl at the end anyway.

So maybe he/she does count.
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I'm getting sick of chick flicks now. I think ever since I watched High School Musical....

And not much of a cliche, but I also hate good games/shows being turned into movies. Example is the live-action Super Mario Bros. film. It. must. die.
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What I like to call, "The Inevitable C-Package". A CP is an action scene cliche. Examples include:

- a minor head wound next to or above the eyes. It will shed one, continuous stream of blood, and this trickle will never smear or drip into the eye.

-when fighting the Bad Guy, hero will usually get shot in a nonvital area, like an arm or shoulder. This injury dissapears over the course of the scene.

-a bloodstain on a hero's shirt that never gets larger than a 50-cent piece.

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I absolutely hate it when a character chooses to sacrifice their lives for the greater good, when there was a perfectly good way to save said character... especially when they draw out the whole scene with "OMG but you're going to die!" "It's ok, this is my decision. This is to save the entire world.""NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!"

For example, the last time I saw this happen was in I Am Legend.
Spoiler: ending of I Am Legend
The woman clearly stated there was enough room in that hole for all three of them, but noooo Smith needed to be a hero and kill himself with a grenade. A GRENADE. It's designed so you can throw it and duck for cover... not pull the pin and go charging at the enemy with it your hand. :headbang:

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Black-Harmonia wrote:
Theres a term for it which translates to "god in a box" I think.


Deus ex machina, yes, which means god from the.. machine. In old Greek (and Roman, hence the term) plays they had the random incoming god which solved everything hanging on a rope from a crane, which was then wheeled in onto the stage.

The worst example of that was probably the escape from Mt. Doom in Lord of the Rings. Those eagles were as deus ex machina as you can get.
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Occult Wanderer wrote:

Tragic pasts.

That's hardly a cliche. Wouldn't you like to learn how a movie character came to be rather than watch them living in the moment with no clue why they're there or doing what they're doing?

I guess the cliche depends on the character's past and how it's portrayed.

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Spoiler: ending of I Am Legend
The woman clearly stated there was enough room in that hole for all three of them, but noooo Smith needed to be a hero and kill himself with a grenade. A GRENADE. It's designed so you can throw it and duck for cover... not pull the pin and go charging at the enemy with it your hand. :headbang:

Considering how small the cavity was, they would have run out of breathable air long before the zombie-vampires relented. It was pretty much either "we all die and everyone's screwed" or "I die and everyone lives".

What I hate are the stock energetic, happy-go-lucky, souped-up, "AHM DA POWERZ" protagonist who will stop at nothing to achieve his goals. Common charateristics are:

-Extreme recklessness
-Leaves everything in his wake a sea of flaming, twisted steel wreckage
-Never learns from his mistakes
-Smack talk authorities
-Take down wave after wave of a seemingly endless horde of grunts
-Are only doing things in their favor
-Often rant about how they're misunderstood and they're trying to make a name for themselves
-Nothing even remotely threatening or terrifying strike fear into their hearts, yet when their favorite pogo stick or w/e is taken away they go into an epilleptic fit

Another cliche I dislike is when a character seems to learn from their mistakes too quickly. It's like, "Okay. I'm this total badass mutha' fucka' and I rule the streets."

Five minutes later...

"Ah, shit! My homie just died and now I've come to an epiphany. Time to bust the heads of my enemies and DO SUM CHARITY WERK HO HO HO". Don't get me wrong, character development is fine by me but when the character takes zero time to sort out his thoughts and make decisions, the whole dramatic effect and build up are essentially ruined by a rushed product.
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-The usual emo ranting
-The usual suspects in some random crime...
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-The good guy always wins...

Of course, the good guy has to win. But, it's not just enough to "win". If the good guy comes out on top and shows some sign of hard-earned, esoteric wisdom or whatnot then it's fine. If not, they're just a selfish punk looking to get some.
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The ones I particularly hate are:

1) When the villain straps the hero to a needlessly complicated death machine (that either doesn't work or is easily escaped from), and then tells the hero their entire plan. Why not just shoot him in the head and feed his corpse to sharks or pirahnas?

2) When one guy takes down an entire army without getting killed (think Rambo/any Chuck Norris film).

3) People with machine guns never need to reload. (That's hardly realistic!)

4) People being chased by a car never think of getting on the pavement and ducking down a couple of sidestreets. Similarily, if a car is coming towards a person, that person always freezes in the middle of the road.

5) Cars always have a full tank of petrol, and the keys in the ignition. Also, when cars tumble down a cliff they always explode (doesn't happen in r/l unless the car is running on about 90% petrol fumes.)

6) Bombs always have a display so the hero can see how much time they have left. Hero also defuses said bomb with less than 10 seconds remaining.

7) If a hero is played by a major Hollywood actor he always survives the end of the film (well there are some occasions where this isn't true, but they're very few and far between).
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The ones I particularly hate are:

1) When the villain straps the hero to a needlessly complicated death machine (that either doesn't work or is easily escaped from), and then tells the hero their entire plan. Why not just shoot him in the head and feed his corpse to sharks or pirahnas?


I'd like to take this time to pull a quote from "Delta State", quite possibly the most under-rated sci-fi cartoon:

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DR. VON HAYEK - Wait until you hear my plan!

PHIL - Whoa! Wait! I've seen too many criminal masterminds get away with this. If you're gonna kill me do it. I don't want to hear your plan.

Phil puts his hands up to his ears.

PHIL - (singing) La la la la la la la la la la!

DR. VON HAYEK - It is an exquisite plan, the product of my fine brain. My work here in my laboratory with my patients and wait until you hear it--

Phil has been singing loudly the whole time. The guard grabs his hands and pulls them away from his head.

DR. VON HAYEK - Dispose of him! And remove any trace of his presence.

PHIL - (To the guard) Good plan.

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In a slasher The couple that always have sex have to get killed minutes after they did it ( or in some cases while) Let them Have and hour to enjoy there last sex moment.

And the black man always dieing in a slasher, why i ask? There usually funny in the movie.
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'Comic relief' charcters. In almost every serious film, there is a character designed to be funny, to make jokes etc. There was, like, one of them that's actually funny.

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-In horror/slasher flicks they add long lost relatives who are either related to the killer, or turns out to be the killer
-How in car chases, the driver is unbelievably an excellent driver
-Why the bad guys just don't shoot the hostages

I don't hate this one, I actually find it rather funny, but:

-In action movies, the one man army can take out bad guys like it's nothing, and the bad guys have unbelievably bad aim
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Stereo wrote:
NinjaMonkey wrote:

I'd like to take this time to pull a quote from "Delta State", quite possibly the most under-rated sci-fi cartoon:

Spoiler:
DR. VON HAYEK - Wait until you hear my plan!

PHIL - Whoa! Wait! I've seen too many criminal masterminds get away with this. If you're gonna kill me do it. I don't want to hear your plan.

Phil puts his hands up to his ears.

PHIL - (singing) La la la la la la la la la la!

DR. VON HAYEK - It is an exquisite plan, the product of my fine brain. My work here in my laboratory with my patients and wait until you hear it--

Phil has been singing loudly the whole time. The guard grabs his hands and pulls them away from his head.

DR. VON HAYEK - Dispose of him! And remove any trace of his presence.

PHIL - (To the guard) Good plan.


I love Delta State! And Phil is indeed awesome in that show. xD

Another cliche that bugs me like hell is the designated "hot girl" of the movie falls in love with the protagonist regardless of what they thought of them at the beginning of the movie and what caused them to change their opinion of him.
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You know, if I was one of those guards at the gate scene in The Matrix, I totally would've just fired at wherever it looked like Neo was gonna jump to next. But I digress. Honestly, there's just one that really pisses me off. When a movie takes its time to introduce a strong and self-reliant female character, yet by the end of the movie, she's clingy and useless, leaving GI Joe to save the day. That's some bullshit right there.
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How the bad guy always reveals his plans... oh and how the female lead and male lead have to fall in love if they are friends.
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When a movie takes its time to introduce a strong and self-reliant female character, yet by the end of the movie, she's clingy and useless, leaving GI Joe to save the day. That's some bullshit right there.


Ooo that pisses me off too. I just thought of another one. In survival horror or action movies or whatever, when someone says, "Don't touch it!" or "Everyone stay together!" or "Don't push that button that says "WARNING: DO NOT PUSH THIS BUTTON" on it!" someone finds a stupid reason to do the opposite of what they were warned not to do.. presumably to advance the plot.
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@Aevitas: Seconded.

More:

-grunts and guards have ungodly terrible aim.

-No one EVER runs away from the scary thing in a horror movie. "Oh, look, there's my best friend's severed head! Let's go look at it, then go running down that dark, bloodstained hallway! Won't that be fuOH GOD MY INTESTINES ARE ON THE FLOOR."

-Only supermodels exist in movies, and they always fall for the leading man, however fugley or mean he may be. These Mary-Sues usually posess amazing skills rarely mentioned in the movie, like the ability to fly a helicopter or shoot a gun.

-Guns never recoil, jam, or injure the user in any way.
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I hate it especially when the freaking weapon or gun, and such, somehow jams or is unable to harm last minute leaving the supposed hero to escape. This is clear to happen when it's usually a long way before the end of the movie.
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Aevitas wrote:
LordQuadros wrote:
When a movie takes its time to introduce a strong and self-reliant female character, yet by the end of the movie, she's clingy and useless, leaving GI Joe to save the day. That's some bullshit right there.


Ooo that pisses me off too. I just thought of another one. In survival horror or action movies or whatever, when someone says, "Don't touch it!" or "Everyone stay together!" or "Don't push that button that says "WARNING: DO NOT PUSH THIS BUTTON" on it!" someone finds a stupid reason to do the opposite of what they were warned not to do.. presumably to advance the plot.


Hey hey hey, pushing the "Do not push" button can also have great results!

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-F'd up endings. By "F'd up", I mean endings that royally screw the main character. From what I've heard, "The Mist" is a good example.

-M.N.S.-esque endings. "Robot Chicken" summed it up with the popular catchphrase, "What a TWEEST!" Sixth Sense, Unbreakable....good movies with decent twists. Almost every other movie made by this guy usually had people thinking, "WTF?!"

-Cliffhanger endings. It's one thing to leave people guessing what's gonna happen next (Matrix Reloaded's ending?), but if you're gonna add "Vol. I" or "Part 1" to the movie's title, you better be making a sequel....no matter how bad the first was!

-The typical "love triangle" concept. 'Nuff said.

-"Modern Disney" romance. Older Disney movie couples almost always got hooked in the end (good times). These days, they're "just friends". Pisses me off.

-Overused "Artistic" combat/choreographed battle sequences, mostly relevant in martial arts movies. Sometime after the first Matrix, this style of film fighting became very popular in movies. Too much of a "good" thing, I guess.
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Hot Fuzz satires a huge amount of cliches in action/cop movies.

1.) No matter how many shots the bad guys take, none of the heroes ever actually get hurt.

2.) The good guys never shoot a fatal hit, only a hit enough to knock out or subdue the bad guy.

3.) Danny asks Nick, "Is it true that there's a point on a man's head where if you shoot it, it will blow up?" This satires common scenes in action movies where a man's head blows up when shot.

4.) The main character has a knowledge of every weapon he gets is hands on from the very beginning of the film.

5.) Danny is the typical lazy, fat, sloppy cop that seems to be a popular stereotype of cops.

I'm sure there are others. Anyway, if you haven't seen Hot Fuzz, go do so. Like, right now. Do it.
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2.) The good guys never shoot a fatal hit, only a hit enough to knock out or subdue the bad guy.

3.) "Is it true that there's a point on a man's head where if you shoot it, it will blow up?" This satires common scenes in action movies where a man's head blows up when shot.


:objection:

That's a clear contradiction! If the good guys never shoot a fatal hit, how does the man's head explode!? :object: Heehee.
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I don't have many, but here are the ones that really, really bug me.

1. The weak female that always needs saving.
2. The female that instantly has a crush on the lead.
3. This is the big one. People in movies who hear noises upstairs, or know there are monsters in the house, but go to investigate without taking a weapon with them. Like that bit in I Am Legend where he went to go check it out unarmed, despite the fact he had a ridiculous amount of weapons.
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Stereo wrote:
NinjaMonkey wrote:
The ones I particularly hate are:

1) When the villain straps the hero to a needlessly complicated death machine (that either doesn't work or is easily escaped from), and then tells the hero their entire plan. Why not just shoot him in the head and feed his corpse to sharks or pirahnas?


I'd like to take this time to pull a quote from "Delta State", quite possibly the most under-rated sci-fi cartoon:

Spoiler:
DR. VON HAYEK - Wait until you hear my plan!

PHIL - Whoa! Wait! I've seen too many criminal masterminds get away with this. If you're gonna kill me do it. I don't want to hear your plan.

Phil puts his hands up to his ears.

PHIL - (singing) La la la la la la la la la la!

DR. VON HAYEK - It is an exquisite plan, the product of my fine brain. My work here in my laboratory with my patients and wait until you hear it--

Phil has been singing loudly the whole time. The guard grabs his hands and pulls them away from his head.

DR. VON HAYEK - Dispose of him! And remove any trace of his presence.

PHIL - (To the guard) Good plan.


This is an exception to the rule. Most spy films that I've seen (esp the James Bond ones) follow the rule though.

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Graph wrote:
burpboy wrote:
2.) The good guys never shoot a fatal hit, only a hit enough to knock out or subdue the bad guy.

3.) "Is it true that there's a point on a man's head where if you shoot it, it will blow up?" This satires common scenes in action movies where a man's head blows up when shot.


:objection:

That's a clear contradiction! If the good guys never shoot a fatal hit, how does the man's head explode!? :object: Heehee.


:takethat:

Not every action movie takes on the second cliche, there are some more gruesome movies that this occurs in.
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Why? WHY did I click on that? So addictive.

Yayyyy, they have a PW section of their cliches and such. XD
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Stereo wrote:
twelve by pies wrote:
Two words:

TV. Tropes.
http://tvtropes.org/

Warning: only click if you NEVER WANT TO LEAVE THE COMPUTER AGAIN. Seriously. You will NEVER LEAVE.


Why? WHY did I click on that? So addictive.

Yayyyy, they have a PW section of their cliches and such. XD

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ForbiddenFruit, that's why. Same reason I had half of GS4 spoiled for me already. :edgeworth: I can't NOT click the spoiler tags.

Yayyyy indeed. :phoenix: :)
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I hate when the lead male has to come and rescue the female as if she can't do anything. And then, if there's a movie where the girl can actually kick ass, she ends up saving the day and the guy takes all the credit for it.
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twelve by pies wrote:
Stereo wrote:
twelve by pies wrote:
Two words:

TV. Tropes.
http://tvtropes.org/

Warning: only click if you NEVER WANT TO LEAVE THE COMPUTER AGAIN. Seriously. You will NEVER LEAVE.


Why? WHY did I click on that? So addictive.

Yayyyy, they have a PW section of their cliches and such. XD

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ForbiddenFruit, that's why. Same reason I had half of GS4 spoiled for me already. :edgeworth: I can't NOT click the spoiler tags.

Yayyyy indeed. :phoenix: :)

I loved the random Nick and Edgeworth mention in the HO'YAY! article...*shot*
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