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"Her mouth was clearly open, so why couldn't she scream? Her mouth had to have been blocked by something - perhaps someone else's hand because of the struggle?"
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"Where on your hand is the cut specifically, Subaru?"

[[JM am I able to look at his hand and verify the location of the cut?]]
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"Her mouth was clearly open, so why couldn't she scream? Her mouth had to have been blocked by something - perhaps someone else's hand because of the struggle?"

"Aha! That would explain why no one heard any screaming or shouting...!"
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(Yes, the cut is where Subaru demonstrated)

"Anyway, I think it might be about time for me to show a little 'trick' behind the locked door. Should I wait a bit first?"
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Matt turned to Monokuma as soon as he finished talking. "A trick behind the locked door?! What do you mean? Show us!"
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(Yes, the cut is where Subaru demonstrated)

"Anyway, I think it might be about time for me to show a little 'trick' behind the locked door. Should I wait a bit first?"

"What's this?! I demand you tell us all immediately!" She cries out, pointing a finger at the bear.
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"So, Fake Bear? What "trick?""
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"Yes, we could do with moving on to other things," said Flo.
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"A trick behind the door... Does that means you didn't tell us everything when we asked you about it?" Alchie accused quietly.

[Wow, a real lot has happened...]
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"Alright, let's get this show on the road" Monokuma pops into the middle of the trial floor. "I'd like to do a demo for all of you regarding the door. I have an exact replica here."

Monomi joins Monokuma, both separated by the replica door in the middle. "If I lock the door from this side, I can still freely open and close it." Monokuma explains, demonstrating. "However, Monomi won't be able to open the door, no matter how hard she tries."

Monomi gives the knob some good tugs but can't do anything. "He's right!"

"If Monomi locked the door from the other side, I wouldn't be able to open it. I'd have to use a bazooka or something to kill her. Got it so far?" Monokuma waited to see some nods from the classmates. "Great! Now, let's look at the first scenario again."

Monokuma locks the door from his side, preventing Monomi from being able to open it on hers. He then leaves the key in the keyhole, opens the door, and joins her side, closing the door behind him. He punches Monomi across the face and tries to open the door again, but it's locked. "Now let me show another scenario." Monokuma bows.

Monokuma locks the door from his side and takes the key out of the keyhole. He then opens the door, and gets to the other side with Monomi, closing the door behind him. He then opens it easily. "See? The door will only remain locked after being opened if the key is in the keyhole. And finally, I have one more scenario to show."

Monokuma is now the only one at the door. He puts the key in, locks it, and leaves it in the keyhole. He walks to the other side and closes the door. He tries to open it, but can't. Monomi then walks by the side with the key in it and yanks it out of the hole. Monokuma tries to open it again, but it's still locked. Then Monomi opens the door from her side (without putting the key in) and shuts it immediately after. Monokuma tries the door again, and it opens.

"Sorry if that was confusing, I can take any questions if they're needed. Essentially, the door can be opened while it's locked on one side and will remain locked as long as the key is still in the keyhole. If the key is removed from the keyhole, the door will be unlocked on both sides once it's opened from the side it was locked on."

In summary:

-Locking the door from side A will make it unable to be opened on side B
-Locking the door from side B will make it unable to be opened on side A
-Locking the door from side A and then opening and closing it from side A will have the door remain locked on side B as long as the key is in the keyhole
-Locking the door from side A and then removing the key will still have the door be locked on side B as long as the door isn't opened from side A
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"So that means...the key to the classroom is in the door's keyhole? How peculiar.."
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"It was THAT simple all along.. Fuck!" Matt exclaimed. He then shook his head.

"So.. If I got it right.. then the 4th scenario is what the killer used, right?"
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"So that means the key was in the keyhole when we had to knock it down? Then, why didn't anyone notice it once we entered? Unless… someone swiped it upon entering. Which means…"
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"So if I'm understanding correctly," SiRReN said slowly, "the door was locked from inside the room while Karega was being killed, which explains why Subaru couldn't open it from the hallway. With the key in the door, it would have also blocked the light. Then when the killer left sometime after Subaru and I exited the hallway they took the key with them and locked it from the hallway?"
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"It would have been openable in that case, SiRReN, it's openable from the same side it's locked from."
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"I'm going to let you guys talk for a bit more to iron out the exact situation so I won't need to clarify anything in case I'm absolutely needed...but to answer Charlie, the door can't ever be locked from both sides."
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"Also I looked through the keyhole, as did SiRReN before I broke down the door. There was no key there."
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Solomon raised his eyebrow. "You know, it's a bit rude to treat your own sister like that." He chuckles. "But really, this is quite insightful. Though....we still come back to the same question. Where is the key now?"
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"It would have been openable in that case, SiRReN, it's openable from the same side it's locked from."


"Yeah, we were told by someone - I want to say Solomon or Matt? - that the door was actually unlocked from the hallway side, remember? We only thought we couldn't open it. If it was locked from the outside and the key removed that would make sense."
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"I think the person who has the key is the killer."
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"The killer could have thrown the key away, or planted it on another person without their knowledge. Can we use that as definite proof?"
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"Subaru told us it could not be opened from the outside, he tested the doorknob."
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"No, we can't use that as proof. There are too many variables with that." Matt sighed.

"We need to find another way of proving who the killer is."
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Solomon laughed. "Weren't you listening to what I was saying, SiRReN? The killer wouldn't leave the key on themselves. That would be too suspicious as well as easy. I repeat, they had to have discarded the key somewhere. That would be the most logical move for them, don't you think?"
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Doctor Nanjo wrote:
"Subaru told us it could not be opened from the outside, he tested the doorknob."


That doesn't mean it was locked. I'm just going by what I was told. Someone said that the door wasn't actually locked, only stuck."
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Solomon laughed. "Weren't you listening to what I was saying, SiRReN? The killer wouldn't leave the key on themselves. That would be too suspicious as well as easy. I repeat, they had to have discarded the key somewhere. That would be the most logical move for them, don't you think?"


"I still think it is important to find the key," she insisted.
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"Subaru told us it could not be opened from the outside, he tested the doorknob."


That doesn't mean it was locked. I'm just going by what I was told. Someone said that the door wasn't actually locked, only stuck."


"Nah, it was locked. It was me saying the door was stuck and Van said the door wasn't tampered with, so I retracted what I said. What exactly are you getting at here?"
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"I'm just trying to figure this all out," SiRReN said to Matt. "Because the number of people it could have been is very small right now, from what I understand happened."
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Crimson crosses her arms. "But Flo and I were looking for that key for ages...! I doubt it's still lying around on the school campus somewhere.."
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"Who would design a door like that, anyway?" Sayako groaned. "Um... are you alright, Monomi-sensei?"
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"Fake Bear God would, obviously."

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SiRReN wrote:
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Solomon laughed. "Weren't you listening to what I was saying, SiRReN? The killer wouldn't leave the key on themselves. That would be too suspicious as well as easy. I repeat, they had to have discarded the key somewhere. That would be the most logical move for them, don't you think?"


"I still think it is important to find the key," she insisted.

"That is true. I've been insisting that since the start. The problem is, as Crimson said, is that they've searched the entire campus already. So where would you start this search?" Solomon said as he played with his collar.
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"There is one place the key could be hidden, right?" Sakura speaks up. "In someone's bedroom. None of our rooms could be investigated, because we'd be locked out without the student card."
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"What if the culprit swallowed it though? Then we could look for it till the cows come home!"
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"I would suggest the someone who's alibi is trusted 100% search all of us for the key. If it wasn't found in any of the room someone must have it right now, or like Sakura said, it's in a bedroom."
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"Look, I have a solution to the locked room," says Van uncomfortably.

"We have to consider that the door was never locked at any point, and that Subaru's testimonies are lies. Not saying that's true but he's the only one saying anything about the door..."

"No need for a key in that case."
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"Look, I have a solution to the locked room," says Van uncomfortably.

"We have to consider that the door was never locked at any point, and that Subaru's testimonies are lies. Not saying that's true but he's the only one saying anything about the door..."

"No need for a key in that case."


"I was thinking that too," SiRReN said.
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"If the door was unlocked, what reason would Subaru have to lie about it?" Alchie asked.
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"So why did you have to break the door down? If it wasn't locked then it would just open, not completely break like it did, right?"
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