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"Well, we know who's capable of climbing down like that so easily", James smirked, glancing at Bryan.
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"Well given the light/lights distinction, Kyle was yelling at somebody who wasn't on the roof..."
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"Well, we know who's capable of climbing down like that so easily", James smirked, glancing at Bryan.

"I was in the ballroom when we heard those noises, y'know," Bryan retorts somewhat dryly. "Couldn't the killer have climbed the pulley to the roof? They'd need to be strong enough to climb it, and somethin' like a rope or cable would need to hang from it to keep it steady..."
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"Well given the light/lights distinction, Kyle was yelling at somebody who wasn't on the roof..."


"How do we even know if that's involved with Jerry's murder?", James questioned. "It doesn't seem likely to me. I suggest that we ignore that for the time being."
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"Well, I guess it's worth noting a few minutes passed between the second bang and the intern's scolding. No idea what that tells us, but that's how it went."
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"I have it!", James suddenly exclaimed. "That intern's comment about the lights…wasn't there a lamp in the room where Abby was killed? Perhaps during her struggle with the killer, the lamp was disturbed. And when did this occur again? That's right- after the second bang, long after Jerry had died!" He beamed happily. "Ergo, not only does this mean that Abby died after Jerry, but also that the blackened is the one who killed Jerry! Of course, now that this has been revealed, it also means that we can eliminate quite a lot of suspects for both murders, considering they occurred in the same timeframe. Me, Mitzi, the cleaning group, the zombie, and so on. This is actually quite helpful", he said happily.
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"Goodness... you're actually being genuinely helpful! Are you feeling well?" Oscar's eyes widen in surprise. "Ha! But really, this is a fine theory. Find Jerry's killer, and that wraps everything up nicely for us. I could get used to this side of you, Mr. Clement." He smirks at James.

"But going off of what happened in Abbey's room, maybe we can go a bit further than just disturbing the lamp. The idea was floating around, but this confirms it; the white powder really was pieces of the wall falling on her. Her killer would have to be actively trying to rip the lamp out to get that much over her, if Bo and and Rini's descriptions were correct, so... er, the killer tried to strangle her with the wiring in the walls, then shoved it back in afterwards? I may have lost myself... B-But we still don't have her murder weapon, so just laying it out there! Haha..." He scratches his head uncertainly.

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"Goodness... you're actually being genuinely helpful! Are you feeling well?" Oscar's eyes widen in surprise. "Ha! But really, this is a fine theory. Find Jerry's killer, and that wraps everything up nicely for us. I could get used to this side of you, Mr. Clement." He smirks at James.

"But going off of what happened in Abbey's room, maybe we can go a bit further than just disturbing the lamp. The idea was floating around, but this confirms it; the white powder really was pieces of the wall falling on her. Her killer would have to be actively trying to rip the lamp out to get that much over her, if So and and Rini's descriptions were correct, so... er, the killer tried to strangle her with the wiring in the walls, then shoved it back in afterwards? I may have lost myself..." He scratches his head uncertainly.


("So and and"?)

James simply smiled. "Like I said; I can be quite useful when I want to. You cannot underestimate someone like me, after all. As for your theory, it also sounds somewhat correct. Are you finally starting to develop brain cells, you pollock? I'm quite impressed. And this also gives us another good suspect." He glanced towards Circe. "Do you actually have any proof that you knocked yourself out? It seems quite the ridiculous story to me. Perhaps you were elsewhere…"
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James simply smiled. "Like I said; I can be quite useful when I want to. You cannot underestimate someone like me, after all. As for your theory, it also sounds somewhat correct. Are you finally starting to develop brain cells, you pollock? I'm quite impressed. And this also gives us another good suspect." He glanced towards Circe. "Do you actually have any proof that you knocked yourself out? It seems quite the ridiculous story to me. Perhaps you were elsewhere…"

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"What can I say, we're both just full of surprises today!" He chuckles. "But before you go accusing someone else, there is that bump on her head our clumsy friend claims to have gotten. If a few ironing boards stacked up are enough to launch a whale like Jerry, I could see just one being enough to knock out an unsuspecting romance novelist."
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[("So and and"?)

James simply smiled. "Like I said; I can be quite useful when I want to. You cannot underestimate someone like me, after all. As for your theory, it also sounds somewhat correct. Are you finally starting to develop brain cells, you pollock? I'm quite impressed. And this also gives us another good suspect." He glanced towards Circe. "Do you actually have any proof that you knocked yourself out? It seems quite the ridiculous story to me. Perhaps you were elsewhere…"

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"What can I say, we're both just full of surprises today!" He chuckles. "But before you go accusing someone else, there is that bump on her head our clumsy friend claims to have gotten. If a few ironing boards stacked up are enough to launch a whale like Jerry, I could see just one being enough to knock out an unsuspecting romance novelist."


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"She could have gotten that bump elsewhere", James argued. "Perhaps from getting into a fight with one of the victims. Besides, even if she was knocked out, we don't know exactly when or for how long. The Rash Romantic is still on my suspect list till she can prove otherwise."
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"She could have gotten that bump elsewhere", James argued. "Perhaps from getting into a fight with one of the victims. Besides, even if she was knocked out, we don't know exactly when or for how long. The Rash Romantic is still on my suspect list till she can prove otherwise."

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"Injured from fighting off the helpless girl tied up on a couch, or that poisoned and very much dead mammoth? Somehow I doubt that's the case." Oscar retorts dryly. "We don't have proof she's being truthful, but I'm still fairly certain she had nothing to do with the murders."
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"While Circe is a suspect, I'm inclined to believe she was knocked out by the ironing board, as she would not have known the mechanics said board. She easily could have been knocked out by entering the closet, accidentally triggering the mechanism."
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"That makes sense, but... that couldn't have happened." Bryan stated, a frown on his face. "Because, well, it, uh... It was... me who opened the window on the 42nd floor. So unless the killer used that same window... yeah." He lightly sighs after confessing this.

"After being at the DJ stand for an hour, I went out through that window in the ballroom that had the balloon caught in it. After getting in there... I just sat down and thought mainly about my family. Keri probably heard me in there," he said as he gestured to Keri.


Keri nodded. "Yes, that would make sense."

"I believe there is still issue with our theory for how Jerry was launched onto the lightning rod." She then said. "We have already discussed the difficulty in moving him out of the blimp. By that same token, how did they manoeuvre him onto the stack of ironing boards? Particularly if the contraption were set up behind the elevator booth."

"Our current theory for his movement requires use of a cable attached to the elevator, dragging him out of the blimp. But that cannot account for his placement atop the boards."
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((Someone could have moved Jerry like a foot or two without keeling over, they just couldn't take him all the way from the cafeteria to the ballroom))
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"I have it!", James suddenly exclaimed. "That intern's comment about the lights…wasn't there a lamp in the room where Abby was killed? Perhaps during her struggle with the killer, the lamp was disturbed. And when did this occur again? That's right- after the second bang, long after Jerry had died!" He beamed happily. "Ergo, not only does this mean that Abby died after Jerry, but also that the blackened is the one who killed Jerry! Of course, now that this has been revealed, it also means that we can eliminate quite a lot of suspects for both murders, considering they occurred in the same timeframe. Me, Mitzi, the cleaning group, the zombie, and so on. This is actually quite helpful", he said happily.


"I had thought this impossible, for there was only one lamp and yet Kyle mentioned plural. However, on reflection, there would have been a matching lamp on the wall behind. Impacting one may risk damaging both, hence Kyle's words."
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"I don't know..." Urumi crossed her arms and frowned. "Someone yanked one of the lights out of the wall to strangle Abby, but Brennan and Fletcher didn't notice any damage to the wall? And those lamps are screwed into the wall or something, right? So if you just pulled one out, how would you reattach it? Seems like it'd just hang there by the wires."
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"Wait a second though. Based on this theory it sounds like the killers have to be...two living people."
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"I have been thinking for a while now that James is especially insistent on the notion that only the one who kills first is the blackened. It is as though he killed Abby, but through this trial has deduced that it happened afterwards, thus making it clear to him that he is not the blackened as he might have thought." Keri proposed sadly. "It would be the simple answer, for only he and I even knew of Abby's capture. It would also mean even more of the blame lies on me, for it was I that brought him into the plan..."
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"Yeah, who'd have thought showing the guy who's been totally open about wanting to kill someone where a helpless victim was going to be locked away would turn out to be such a bad idea?" Urumi grimaced. "...Let's just focus on figuring out what happened before deciding who gets away with murder."
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"Now that's all the evidence we have have left unanswered. Matsu-san's theory seems plausible for the bloodstain but we should figure out exactly where the killer was when it fired first, since the reasoning for thinking they were on floor 42 was Kyle's announcement and the open window."
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"Yeah, who'd have thought showing the guy who's been totally open about wanting to kill someone where a helpless victim was going to be locked away would turn out to be such a bad idea?" Urumi grimaced. "...Let's just focus on figuring out what happened before deciding who gets away with murder."


"I have never before had to worry about such consequences as these... When doing the right thing, what would it matter? But now a girl is dead and it is my fault. I do not know what this means, what I am meant to think, what I am to do... But it is as you say, for now I can do nothing other than focus on this trial and ensure another innocent is not punished. I cannot falter here, at least not yet."

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"Now that's all the evidence we have have left unanswered. Matsu-san's theory seems plausible for the bloodstain but we should figure out exactly where the killer was when it fired first, since the reasoning for thinking they were on floor 42 was Kyle's announcement and the open window."


"If Jerry died in the dining room, it is a diversion from his expected route - you can reach the galley directly from the blimp entrance. So perhaps he was heading to or from the storage room where the mini fridge was located, in search of more ice cream due to the relative lack thereof in the main freezer."
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"One thing missing an explanation is the cord dangling from Jerry. My theory is that the cord is long enough to reach the room from which Jerry was catapulted from to the lightning rod. All they had to do was tie the cord to something heavy and launch Jerry, thus making the victim fall square onto the rod."
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"You needn't even use a heavy object for that." Keri said, considering it. "You could simply attach one end of the cord to the elevator shaft, perhaps to the pulley. Or on that note, it could even be the rope on the pulley that was used, if the pulley can be locked to prevent spooling."
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[There's definitely something to tie stuff to. I seem to recall the roof having a bar or fence or something that runs all the way around it, everyone in the room would be able to recall such a thing existing.]
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((The pulley can also be locked to prevent it from unrolling everywhere, cause I don't see why not.))
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"Huh? I don't get it." Urumi blinked. "How would tying the cord to something on this building ensure Jerry landed on the lightning rod?"
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"Huh? I don't get it." Urumi blinked. "How would tying the cord to something on this building ensure Jerry landed on the lightning rod?"


"The cord would keep Jerry from going over the lightning rod, if it was as long as the distance between what it was tied to and the rod."
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"I'd like to tell you all something," Otto says as he hovers next to the window, gazing solemnly at the city outside.

"When I set out on this cruise, I was hoping it'd be fun for everyone... Just a nice vacation with a few murders thrown in. But you guys keep arguing and fighting each other! What gives?

"I think we should have a bit of a kindness circle! We'll all take turns giving someone a compliment! Here, I'll start!"

Otto turns back to the group and points two finger guns at someone. "Mr. Brennan, while you may not be the finest artist, you certainly have a keen eye for detail!"
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"I have had a thought for Abby's death." Keri announced, abruptly changing topics again and ignoring Otto's sudden comment. "Perhaps the killer did not even enter room 3602, thus preserving the locked room mystery. Maybe they instead entered the neighbouring room, removed the lamp on their side and reached through to push past the other, and used that hole to reach through and strangle her with a wire of some kind? Then afterwards they pulled the lamp in room 3602 back into place, perhaps holding it there with a weight or similar on the other side."
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"Huh? I don't get it." Urumi blinked. "How would tying the cord to something on this building ensure Jerry landed on the lightning rod?"


"The cord would keep Jerry from going over the lightning rod, if it was as long as the distance between what it was tied to and the rod."

"I thought Bryan said the cord trailed off behind the building," Urumi frowned, ignoring Otto's weird suggestion. "Wouldn't the cord be on the side facing us if it was used for that?"
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((Since Jerry's arm was pointed toward the back of the skyscraper, it's possible that the cord could have just swung around it due to gravity if it was dropped from the roof))
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"Huh? I don't get it." Urumi blinked. "How would tying the cord to something on this building ensure Jerry landed on the lightning rod?"


"The cord would keep Jerry from going over the lightning rod, if it was as long as the distance between what it was tied to and the rod."

"I thought Bryan said the cord trailed off behind the building," Urumi frowned, ignoring Otto's weird suggestion. "Wouldn't the cord be on the side facing us if it was used for that?"



"That is very true," Irene says. "I am not quite sure how the cord could have even ended up there..."
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"Huh? What kind of suggestion is that?" Jack blinked at Otto then turned away. "Raul, your beard is so awesome it could turn girls to men."
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((Eh too lazy to do this OOC.

There are two ways to remove one of those lamps from the wall. You can take out the screws or you can remove it by force. However, it's impossible to pullout a lamp by force, as there's no good way to get a grip on it.))
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"I have had a thought for Abby's death." Keri announced, abruptly changing topics again and ignoring Otto's sudden comment. "Perhaps the killer did not even enter room 3602, thus preserving the locked room mystery. Maybe they instead entered the neighbouring room, removed the lamp on their side and reached through to push past the other, and used that hole to reach through and strangle her with a wire of some kind? Then afterwards they pulled the lamp in room 3602 back into place, perhaps holding it there with a weight or similar on the other side."

"...I don't think that's even physically possible. Wouldn't you need both hands to strangle someone that way? That means two holes, plus they'd both need to be holding the wire on the other side of the wall and somehow wrap it all the way around Abby's neck."
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"I have had a thought for Abby's death." Keri announced, abruptly changing topics again and ignoring Otto's sudden comment. "Perhaps the killer did not even enter room 3602, thus preserving the locked room mystery. Maybe they instead entered the neighbouring room, removed the lamp on their side and reached through to push past the other, and used that hole to reach through and strangle her with a wire of some kind? Then afterwards they pulled the lamp in room 3602 back into place, perhaps holding it there with a weight or similar on the other side."

"...I don't think that's even physically possible. Wouldn't you need both hands to strangle someone that way? That means two holes, plus they'd both need to be holding the wire on the other side of the wall and somehow wrap it all the way around Abby's neck."


"They could simply use the lamp itself while holding the other one still, as the lamp would still be connected to the wiring."
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[People can recall the backing board to the lamp may have been able to cover a hole large enough to get both arms through...]
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"Would two arms be able to fit through the gap?" Keri wondered, before recalling that this was indeed possible.

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There are two ways to remove one of those lamps from the wall. You can take out the screws or you can remove it by force. However, it's impossible to pullout a lamp by force, as there's no good way to get a grip on it.


"The screws could be removed on the neighbouring side, and then the one in room 3602 pushed out..." She then said, wondering aloud. "Then later dragged back into place by the wires. This forced removal would also explain the white powder."

"However were this to be true... I believe only James could likely do it. Other than myself, only he knew enough about Abby's situation to realistically plan out a crime such as this."
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"Yeah, I guess if someone actually did manage to kill her like that, it'd have to be someone who knew exactly where she was sitting...

"Wait a minute," Urumi narrowed her eyes at Keri. "How do we know you didn't do it, again?"
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"So he had the means and the knowledge, and yet he was locked in with Mitzi at the time of the murder. That... doesn't add up."
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