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Wed Jan 09, 2019 4:59 pm

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"So it wasn't due to the fire alone, and it could not have just happened because of a fight... Was there some accident in the storage room, perhaps?", Evelyn speculated. "Or was this a deliberate ploy by the killer to use it in the murder somehow? Actually, what use would the hole have had in the murder plan? This might have come up before, but it is somewhat hard to keep track of. Apologies."

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Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:32 pm

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"I think someone said maybe it was to see what was going on in the kitchen?" Nana shrugged as best she could with her restraints. "What's the door made of, anyway?"

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Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:50 pm

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"I think someone said maybe it was to see what was going on in the kitchen?" Nana shrugged as best she could with her restraints. "What's the door made of, anyway?"

"Oh, that's me! I said that!" Althea said, excitedly trying to raise her hand. "I believe, since the hole was only seen after the fire started, it must have been made from the safer side of the door: the storage side!"

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Wed Jan 09, 2019 8:02 pm

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"It may be worth revisiting your current theories on who the killer is and how they did it," Adam suggested. "From there see how the hole in the door might fit in. It is unlikely the hole was merely used for some frivolous matter - if it was intentional, it was for a necessary reason, if it was unintentional then it was probably unavoidable."

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Wed Jan 09, 2019 8:19 pm

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"The hole in the door... Hmm... Hmmmmm..." One could practically see the smoke coming from Nana's ears. "Umm... I'm probably totally wrong about this, but, like, what if Miss Siri didn't go through the vents at all? Maybe she didn't even think of getting to the storage room that way? She could have just gone there normally, before everyone went to the restaurant, then made a hole in the door so she could watch for whoever called her there... but whoever attacked her went through the vents instead?"

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Wed Jan 09, 2019 9:35 pm

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"This is the delectable theory prepared for you by Kyoya Okamura. Doctor Agnes has only been cleared as a suspect because 'it'd take a while for her to get to the VIP rooms'. I do not believe this to be sufficient, and just because her mask couldn't have made the hole doesn't mean she couldn't be the culprit. It is highly suspicious that she was in the vent at all and I believe she is still worth investigating."

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Wed Jan 09, 2019 9:47 pm

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"I got in the vent because I wanted to see where it went!" Althea shouted. "It seemed like fun, and, ah..." she looked at Nick, not meeting his gaze. "... Sorry, but Mr. Anderson's tour was so boring."
She shifted around in place. "And I would never kill Ms. Hall! Or, or anyone! Ah, think of it this way! I must've been crawling through the vents during the crash for your theory to work, correct? I most certainly would not be able to do that! Have you ever been in a such an enclosed space while a train crashes? I hit my head so many times..."

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Wed Jan 09, 2019 9:50 pm

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"I think Adam said that Vic or Kyoya would have noticed a hole in the door if there was one there when they were cooking, but I think it's possible that maybe Vic saw it or made it but kept it a secret."

Marshall glances back and forth.

"Kyoya, the fire was because of the crash for sure as per Eli's testimony. Also, Althea would have been noticed re-entering the train after the crash, I think, which means she couldn't have entered the vents if she was in the storage room after the crash."

"If the killer used the hole, I'm not sure what for. Maybe they removed the strut through it, dropping the crate?"

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Wed Jan 09, 2019 9:53 pm

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“That is not necessarily true.” Kyoya said to Althea. “You could’ve been knocked out by any number of things besides the crash, perhaps even a headwound from Miss Hall. Additionally it’s possib you were never unconscious at all. It must’ve taken great willpower to resist my toast, but if you truly are a killer then I don’t doubt you could find such monstrous energy within you!”

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Wed Jan 09, 2019 9:57 pm

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JesusMonroe wrote:

“That is not necessarily true.” Kyoya said to Althea. “You could’ve been knocked out by any number of things besides the crash, perhaps even a headwound from Miss Hall. Additionally it’s possib you were never unconscious at all. It must’ve taken great willpower to resist my toast, but if you truly are a killer then I don’t doubt you could find such monstrous energy within you!”

"How would she get back to the vent above VIP room 3 if she was suffering from head trauma? Besides, that would probably be noticeable on her at this very moment."

Skylar raised her voice. "You're accusing the wrong person, nitwit!"

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Wed Jan 09, 2019 9:59 pm

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“As I said, she could’ve feigned unconsciousness!” Kyoya repeated. “It’s necessary to look at each suspect from all angles. She is hardly in the clear.”

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Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:03 pm

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"But it wasn't me!" Althea said, like it was an argument.
"I, I... How would I even make it to the storage room before the crash?! On my hands and knees?!" she snapped, but calmed down quickly. "I, I, I'm sorry for raising my voice, but I did my best to defend you earlier, Mr. Okamura..."

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Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:04 pm

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“As I said, she could’ve feigned unconsciousness!” Kyoya repeated. “It’s necessary to look at each suspect from all angles. She is hardly in the clear.”

"I bet you'd love to see every angle of Althea, now wouldn't you?" She shrugged. "Stupid jokes aside, you're basing your judgement on your shitty toast and whether or not she could resist the urge to have a bite."

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Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:13 pm

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DootDootDoot wrote:

"But it wasn't me!" Althea said, like it was an argument.
"I, I... How would I even make it to the storage room before the crash?! On my hands and knees?!" she snapped, but calmed down quickly. "I, I, I'm sorry for raising my voice, but I did my best to defend you earlier, Mr. Okamura..."

"We cant afford to get this wrong so we cant just dismiss anyone from being a suspect that possibly could have done it." Vic smiled. "Just keep thinking, i'm sure there's something to prove you didn't do it."

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Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:18 pm

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"I bet you'd love to see every angle of Althea, now wouldn't you?" She shrugged. "Stupid jokes aside, you're basing your judgement on your shitty toast and whether or not she could resist the urge to have a bite."

"Thank you, Ms. Culver! If I were capable of it, I would take my hat off to you!"

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Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:25 pm

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Cold52 wrote:

DootDootDoot wrote:

"But it wasn't me!" Althea said, like it was an argument.
"I, I... How would I even make it to the storage room before the crash?! On my hands and knees?!" she snapped, but calmed down quickly. "I, I, I'm sorry for raising my voice, but I did my best to defend you earlier, Mr. Okamura..."

"We cant afford to get this wrong so we cant just dismiss anyone from being a suspect that possibly could have done it." Vic smiled. "Just keep thinking, i'm sure there's something to prove you didn't do it."

"There is something, and it's the fact that you're the culprit."

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Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:36 pm

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Marshall snorts.

"Alright well let's focus on how it all worked out, yeah? So Siri's in the storage room for a while, right? Well, during the crash, a crate falls on her leg. We know it was during the crash because the crates would have moved around during the crash, but they weren't exactly the types of things that could be thrown at people. At that time, she bruised, probably because she was still alive, yeah? So she's stuck there, unable to escape. If she called for help, the only person who would have heard it was probably Vic, yeah?"

"So, if you think about it that way, I don't know what Siri was doing in the back room, but I think she was stuck under the crate after the crash no matter which way you look at it."

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Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:12 pm

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"Well, just speakin' generally," Eli began, "The way I understand it is that Siri used those pillows to make it look like she was sleeping and then snuck into the vent. She headed down to the storage room and then hung out there, presumably to meet someone. Then the crash happened and I guess she was pinned down by the smaller container. Then I guess she was killed, though there had to be some reason why no one heard her. After that, the killer just set up the struts so the container'd fall on her later on, throwing off the time of death. Then I guess they just, though we're not sure which way they went."

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Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:18 pm

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"Like I said, she bruised when the smaller crate fell on her, so she was definitely alive then, and that must've fallen during the crash. That means after the crash she was alive, but trapped, so I think the reason why nobody heard her is because she was attacked when everyone was evacuating the train."

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Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:20 pm

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"Yeah, but I still feel like someone woulda heard, unless you're saying someone waited until most everyone left to attack her."

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Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:29 pm

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"Really? I feel like at best, only the people in the restaurant would have heard, and you and Skylar got out of there pretty fast, right? Adam only said that people in the kitchen would know if someone in the storage room was attacked, and I think during the evacuation, indeed there wasn't anybody in the kitchen."

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Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:33 pm

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"Well, I guess I'm more concerned as to why she wouldn't have at least cried out when the first storage container hit her," Eli said, looking off to the side. "Unless the crash was just that loud."

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Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:37 pm

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"During the crash there was lots of noise, and screaming and yelling on all sides," Adam stated calmly, still smiling. "It is unlikely anyone would have noticed much, especially as they would themselves have been in a state of shock and confusion."

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Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:38 pm

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Skylar sounded like she was hacking up a lung. "Alright , let's settle this. Here's why Vic is the killer!"

Spoiler: Vic's TOTALLY Guilty

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Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:45 pm

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"Um, I'm not sure about some of the details... So the smaller container fell on Miss Siri after she'd already...?"

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Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:47 pm

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"Corpses don't bruise, everyone knows that," Marshall grumbles.

"Whatever."

He doesn't look at Vic.

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Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:47 pm

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Franzise Deauxnim wrote:

"Um, I'm not sure about some of the details... So the smaller container fell on Miss Siri after she'd already...?"

"Precisely! It was nothing more than a decoy!"

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Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:49 pm

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WinterCoat wrote:

Franzise Deauxnim wrote:

"Um, I'm not sure about some of the details... So the smaller container fell on Miss Siri after she'd already...?"

"Precisely! It was nothing more than a decoy!"

"But Mr. Marshall said..." she objected weakly.

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Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:51 pm

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"If Siri set up the trap before the crash, the container would have fallen during the crash," Adam said. "And Evelyn was able to confirm that the container fell on Siri's leg while she was still alive. The bruise would be different if she had been a corpse at that point."

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Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:51 pm

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"Nah, Evelyn should have been able to tell if that bruise was post-mortem," Eli replied, "But I suppose she might have actually gotten it during the fight."

"I do think it's unlikely the people who were in the VIP Room or the Lounge could have done it. Even if one of them stayed behind, they couldn't use the air vent thanks to the gates in the restaurant. And there would have been no other way to the storage room, barring going outside, which would be pretty much impossible without being seen."

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Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:52 pm

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"Man, you guys suck... just vote for Vic and it'll all be okay!"

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Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:52 pm

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"So skylar, where does the hole in the door fit in your theory?" Just curious since ya never mentioned it."

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Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:56 pm

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"There's another flaw. It could not have been Miss Hall who loosened the strut, since the container would fall during the crash. Allow me to attempt my theory: The Factually Correct Okamura Edition!"

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Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:56 pm

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Cold52 wrote:

"So skylar, where does the hole in the door fit in your theory?" Just curious since ya never mentioned it."

"The door hole is stupid and a waste of time. Maybe Siri just used it to keep lookout, and that's how she saw you among the flames. There's a lot of details that I think are pointless to worry about, and the hole is one of them."

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Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:01 am

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"Um, could the killer have made the hole and removed the strut that way? I'm not sure how Miss Siri could have made the hole if she was pinned to the ground..."

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Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:08 am

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"Skylar!" Marshall groans, exasperated. "My friend might have killed my other friend, so could you just take things seriously at least?!"

He breathes heavily in, "Sorry, I'm just so... Freaked out, and when you keep ignoring all the details completely it makes me feel like everything I'm saying is wrong."

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Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:17 am

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Doctor Nanjo wrote:

"Skylar!" Marshall groans, exasperated. "My friend might have killed my other friend, so could you just take things seriously at least?!"

He breathes heavily in, "Sorry, I'm just so... Freaked out, and when you keep ignoring all the details completely it makes me feel like everything I'm saying is wrong."

Vic forced his hand into his pocket despite the resistance from the spiderbots and pulled out a lighter and cigarette, lit it and took a breath. "Just take a breath, calm down marshall. Think of everything we know so far, maybe the problem is were just trying to complicate everything and its simpler then we think. im sure you can figure it out" Vic gave marshall a genuine smile.

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Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:21 am

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Cold52 wrote:

Doctor Nanjo wrote:

"Skylar!" Marshall groans, exasperated. "My friend might have killed my other friend, so could you just take things seriously at least?!"

He breathes heavily in, "Sorry, I'm just so... Freaked out, and when you keep ignoring all the details completely it makes me feel like everything I'm saying is wrong."

Vic forced his hand into his pocket despite the resistance from the spiderbots and pulled out a lighter and cigarette, lit it and took a breath. "Just take a breath, calm down marshall. Think of everything we know so far, maybe the problem is were just trying to complicate everything and its simpler then we think. im sure you can figure it out" Vic gave marshall a genuine smile.

"I must agree with Mr. Terry, Mr. Keyes," the teacher said warmly... had his voice always carried that soothing quality? "I believe that we all have been making the situation to be more complicated than it truly is, and the answer is right in front of us. We've just been so focused on accusing everyone around us that we've blinded ourselves to what matters; finding the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth."

His voice certainly carried more weight than it used to. And it just seemed more... convincing? Odd.

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Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:24 am

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“This is what I think. Any person we accuse a similar crop of issues come up—how did they leave after the crash, when did they loosen the strut... Vic is the only person we can form a theory without contradiction. Therefore I think we should primarily focus on him.”

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Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:25 am

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“I’m ignoring details because in my mind, it’s clear that Vic did it, and it clearly doesn’t translate well.” She sighed. “Whatever, I’ll keep quiet and let you guys continue to flounder around.”