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"Monomi, are you telling us our current line of reasoning is faulty? Because there's still discussion to be had here." She then says, looking between SiRRen and Flo.
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"I'm sorry," said Flo. "I don't want to believe it, I want to believe Karega killed herself and that was that. But these behavioral tendencies… it just bothers me."
She took a deep breath and recounted what Subaru said.
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Shortly before we exited our room to get a bottle of water, the blackout happened, so we headed to the gym, where most of the students were at, to know what was going on. During that time....we think we saw someone moving towards us from the direction of the gym, and we don't suppose they saw us when they entered the room." Subaru closed his eyes. "We were...well, we are human, and fear is a natural instinct, so we didn't rush there immediately. A few seconds later or so, we tried to open the door but it didn't give in, and when we peeked through the keyhole, there was no light. All the while...there was some sort of muffled struggling sounds... After that, we shakily headed towards the gym where we met Ms. SiRReN, and she told you the rest of the story."
"The time you saw that person, it was about. 3:05 right? That's when SiRReN supposedly left us. I want to be wrong, I really do. But I can't ignore this feeling…"
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"I know we still haven't gotten the details ironed out," said Flo. "But as a sociologist, SiRReN's been getting my attention in more ways than one. I've been suspecting this since I wrote up all those alibis. That's when I noticed something was off. And then she tried to claim the crack that Matt heard was Karega falling down the stairs. As if, she didn't want us to figure out it was the wooden stair."
"I'm sorry," said Flo. "I don't want to believe it, I want to believe Karega killed herself and that was that. But these behavioral tendencies… it just bothers me."
She took a deep breath and recounted what Subaru said.
"The time you saw that person, it was about. 3:05 right? That's when SiRReN supposedly left us. I want to be wrong, I really do. But I can't ignore this feeling…"
"I'm sorry," said Flo. "I don't want to believe it, I want to believe Karega killed herself and that was that. But these behavioral tendencies… it just bothers me."
She took a deep breath and recounted what Subaru said.
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Shortly before we exited our room to get a bottle of water, the blackout happened, so we headed to the gym, where most of the students were at, to know what was going on. During that time....we think we saw someone moving towards us from the direction of the gym, and we don't suppose they saw us when they entered the room." Subaru closed his eyes. "We were...well, we are human, and fear is a natural instinct, so we didn't rush there immediately. A few seconds later or so, we tried to open the door but it didn't give in, and when we peeked through the keyhole, there was no light. All the while...there was some sort of muffled struggling sounds... After that, we shakily headed towards the gym where we met Ms. SiRReN, and she told you the rest of the story."
"The time you saw that person, it was about. 3:05 right? That's when SiRReN supposedly left us. I want to be wrong, I really do. But I can't ignore this feeling…"
"You are completely ignoring the fact that he met me at the gym entrance. How could I have gotten out of the classroom and reached the gym before him without him noticing, Flo? It doesn't make sense.
"As for my suggesting Karega fell down the stairs, I suggested it because it made sense to me. The lights went out JUST as she was walking down the stairs. You miss a step in the dark and you're going to fall down the rest of the way. It would also explain how she could have died without there being any blood present, and why she was all bruised up when she was found and yet had no visible injuries when she came to the gym initially. She would have had to get those bruises from fighting the killer, or from how she was killed."
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"Van left the gym at one, yes, but he also saw Ryuji and I there. Ryuji sent his letter to me, so if he were to leave the gym and go to the classroom at 1:30, wouldn't he wonder why I wasn't leaving as well? Two things could have happened then: Ryuji would have called me, and I would reveal the fact I never saw the letter... both of us would go to the classroom to play. So Van would have to deal with two people. Or, Ryuji would not call me, and we wouldn't go, in which case the whole plan would be a bust. Shouldn't Van have thought that?" Voice growing hoarse, Alchie stopped, coughing slightly.
"Also, wouldn't Van have informed Karega that both of us were at the gym? So why would she need to come and see what was going on in the soccer area?"
"So I think we can rule out Van as the accomplice."
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SiRReN wrote:
"The only thing that is still out of place is the idea that he would have been covered in paint," she said. "Monokuma said there's no evidence in the killers room, so I don't know how he would have washed the paint off or disposed of his clothes."
Arthur coughed. "Strictly speaking, that's not quite true. While you may be right, all Monokuma said was that the killer didn't hide any evidence in their room. If we take this as literally as possible, the killer could have, for example, hidden evidence in Karega's room, or Karega could have hid evidence in the killer's room. "
Arthur suddenly realized he was interrupting. "I just wanted to point out that Monokuma could be using wordplay to throw us off. Er... carry on. "
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"SiRReN, if you're accusing Van of being the accomplice... Other than all the points already brought up in Van's defence, I think I could add a few more," Alchie spoke up.
"Van left the gym at one, yes, but he also saw Ryuji and I there. Ryuji sent his letter to me, so if he were to leave the gym and go to the classroom at 1:30, wouldn't he wonder why I wasn't leaving as well? Two things could have happened then: Ryuji would have called me, and I would reveal the fact I never saw the letter... both of us would go to the classroom to play. So Van would have to deal with two people. Or, Ryuji would not call me, and we wouldn't go, in which case the whole plan would be a bust. Shouldn't Van have thought that?" Voice growing hoarse, Alchie stopped, coughing slightly.
"Also, wouldn't Van have informed Karega that both of us were at the gym? So why would she need to come and see what was going on in the soccer area?"
"So I think we can rule out Van as the accomplice."
"Van left the gym at one, yes, but he also saw Ryuji and I there. Ryuji sent his letter to me, so if he were to leave the gym and go to the classroom at 1:30, wouldn't he wonder why I wasn't leaving as well? Two things could have happened then: Ryuji would have called me, and I would reveal the fact I never saw the letter... both of us would go to the classroom to play. So Van would have to deal with two people. Or, Ryuji would not call me, and we wouldn't go, in which case the whole plan would be a bust. Shouldn't Van have thought that?" Voice growing hoarse, Alchie stopped, coughing slightly.
"Also, wouldn't Van have informed Karega that both of us were at the gym? So why would she need to come and see what was going on in the soccer area?"
"So I think we can rule out Van as the accomplice."
"Van left the soccer pitch just after you left to go to the lockers at 01:00, Alchie," SiRReN said. "He maybe have thought you weren't going to be in the soccer pitch for a while in order to shower, and so he would have gone to the classroom in preparation of Ryuji arriving. The timing makes sense to me."
"And maybe Van didn't know all of what Karega had done. Maybe he didn't know she'd managed to cut the water and so didn't know that you would return to the pitch so quickly, thus preventing Ryuji from going to the classroom because he saw that you weren't going there."
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SiRReN wrote:
DarkAgea wrote:
"SiRReN, if you're accusing Van of being the accomplice... Other than all the points already brought up in Van's defence, I think I could add a few more," Alchie spoke up.
"Van left the gym at one, yes, but he also saw Ryuji and I there. Ryuji sent his letter to me, so if he were to leave the gym and go to the classroom at 1:30, wouldn't he wonder why I wasn't leaving as well? Two things could have happened then: Ryuji would have called me, and I would reveal the fact I never saw the letter... both of us would go to the classroom to play. So Van would have to deal with two people. Or, Ryuji would not call me, and we wouldn't go, in which case the whole plan would be a bust. Shouldn't Van have thought that?" Voice growing hoarse, Alchie stopped, coughing slightly.
"Also, wouldn't Van have informed Karega that both of us were at the gym? So why would she need to come and see what was going on in the soccer area?"
"So I think we can rule out Van as the accomplice."
"Van left the gym at one, yes, but he also saw Ryuji and I there. Ryuji sent his letter to me, so if he were to leave the gym and go to the classroom at 1:30, wouldn't he wonder why I wasn't leaving as well? Two things could have happened then: Ryuji would have called me, and I would reveal the fact I never saw the letter... both of us would go to the classroom to play. So Van would have to deal with two people. Or, Ryuji would not call me, and we wouldn't go, in which case the whole plan would be a bust. Shouldn't Van have thought that?" Voice growing hoarse, Alchie stopped, coughing slightly.
"Also, wouldn't Van have informed Karega that both of us were at the gym? So why would she need to come and see what was going on in the soccer area?"
"So I think we can rule out Van as the accomplice."
"Van left the soccer pitch just after you left to go to the lockers at 01:00, Alchie," SiRReN said. "He maybe have thought you weren't going to be in the soccer pitch for a while in order to shower, and so he would have gone to the classroom in preparation of Ryuji arriving. The timing makes sense to me."
"And maybe Van didn't know all of what Karega had done. Maybe he didn't know she'd managed to cut the water and so didn't know that you would return to the pitch so quickly, thus preventing Ryuji from going to the classroom because he saw that you weren't going there."
"The last part is ridicolous. Why even have an accomplice if you're not going to tell them the whole plan?"
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SiRReN sighed, tired and shaken by everything that had happened. "Monomi wants us to talk about the basement - maybe we should shelve these ideas for now and do that. Charlie and Sayako are the ones who investigated the basement. Can you both go over again what you saw - again, don't leave out even the smallest detail, please."
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DarkAgea wrote:
"But I don't think you've explained why Karega would have come to the soccer area."
"Why do I have to explain that," SiRReN wanted to know. "I don't know what Karega was thinking. I can only speculate. This is ALL purely speculation unless backed up with hard facts.
"The only hard fact I have right now is that Van could definitely carry any one of us around, and that he left the soccer pitch immediately after Alchie did at 01:00."
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@Monokuma: Is there another entrance/exit to the classroom?
@Van: Did he know of what Karega did?
@Subaru: Who suggested to meet up at the café?
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@Monokuma: Is there another entrance/exit to the classroom?
"Uuuuuu... This was supposed to be a happy summer where you all got to become friends and get to know each other, but Big Brother came and ruined it all!" Monomi cried. "I had all sorts of fun activities planned, but Big Brother came and completely changed the building structure! I don't know what sorts of tricks there might be, but if there is anything like a secret passage or hidden door, I doubt he'll just tell you because you ask... After all, the whole point of the trial is to work together to find and figure things out yourselves, isn't it?
"...Of course, you'll have to wait and see what Big Brother actually says, but that's just what I think."
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Vinny_Valens wrote:
Subaru looked at Flo. "We suggested it, but we don't see how that is relevant to this case."
"Thank you. I believe you. It isn't relevant then."
(@Monokuma: Is there another entrance/exit to the classroom?) 'if he won't tell us we'll just move on'
@Van: Did he know of what Karega did?
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Vinny_Valens wrote:
Subaru looked at Flo. "We suggested it, but we don't see how that is relevant to this case."
"Thank you. I believe you. It isn't relevant then."
@Monokuma: Is there another entrance/exit to the classroom?
@Van: Did he know of what Karega did?
"I doubt Van is going to tell you the truth if he's the accomplice," SiRReN pointed out.
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Crimson lights up. "Wait, what if the basement has some kind of seccret entrance leading to the classroom? That's probably how thr killer managed to bring Karega's body there!"
"No.. it doesn't. It was investigated and a secret entrance would be too obvious. Besides, they're on 2 different hallways and the classroom was searched too."
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"The last part is ridicolous. Why even have an accomplice if you're not going to tell them the whole plan?"
"...Maybe Sh... the victim didn't want their accomplice knowing the whole plan..."
She turned to address the pink rabbit. "Monomi-sensei? Did the blackout cut all the power to the building? And it was back on by the time we started investigating, right?"
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-The stuff with Solomon going to the basement was Daily Life stuff/rp and shouldn't be taken into account. The ONLY things that should be taken into account are the alibis people were sent and the room descriptions from the beginning
-There's only one entrance/exit to the classroom and it's the door
-There is no evidence hidden in ANYBODY'S room
-Blackout cut out the power to the entire building, but there was still light in the classroom because that light used a flame. Power came back on by the time everybody left the crime scene to investigate. The one who turned it on was Monokuma
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"The basement now, guys. There's still a huge mystery that nobody has been discussing and could turn the case on its heels. What about the black paint smudge? I'm going to repeat myself again - the smudge may very well be caused by dragging something over a small puddle of paint."
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