Danganronpa F2: Prisoner's Dilemma- Epilogue : Berry Big Circus

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Thu Oct 19, 2017 6:31 pm

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"I do not believe there would have been enough time to shoot Liza, think about it, go back to the Lucky RC, grab the other gun, come back and shoot Rina. I heard the gunshots seconds apart. The Lucky Student would have had to have the second pistol already, and there would be no need to shoot Rina from Liza's killers point of view."

"I think Liza was trying to frame the Lucky Student," Cain continued. "She got the eel, killed Rina, and shot her. At the same time the Lucky Student perhaps suspected something would happen, and when they went to the Lucky RC and realized a pistol was missing, took the other one. Upon hearing the shot, they fired their own pistol in that direction, and 'luckily' the bullet hit the mark and killed Liza. All they had to do was collect the other gun to dispose of them in the ocean, and toss the eel into the fridge."

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Thu Oct 19, 2017 6:33 pm

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"Plausible." Colin says to Cain's theory. "But it doesn't help us find the killer."

He shakes his head. "Well I've received confirmation from Monokuma on one more thing. The food printer in the Leader RC was used more recently from when Cain and I used it before 11 PM. That...seems to be the only lead we have."

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Thu Oct 19, 2017 6:35 pm

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"So if it's not you or Cain.. Then it's the killer."

Raymond pauses and corrects himself- "Which can still be you, or Cain. But more likely the latter than the former.."

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Thu Oct 19, 2017 6:39 pm

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Azurine glances at Cain once more before hiding her face, unable to look him in the eye.

"Cain...=[." ZuZu whirrs. "There's no point in defending yourself like this..You were the one who used the Food Printer, right? That must have been because you wanted to attract the eel, so you could stab one and put in the pillowcase.." The device continues. "Then you went to the Lounge with the eel and.."

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Thu Oct 19, 2017 6:40 pm

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"Then one more thing needs to be explained." Colin cut her off. "If Cain is the killer, why did he burn the eel right outside of the Haiku RC? Haikunt was there the whole time, and if we believe her, she just happened to not notice him. It's one thing for anybody else to take that risk, but why would a blind man do it if he didn't know how to avoid detection?"

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Thu Oct 19, 2017 6:42 pm

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"I think the real question is why it was burned there at all, Cain being the killer or no. They might've been forced to, maybe.."

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Thu Oct 19, 2017 6:44 pm

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Cain stood stiffly, chin held high. "I am not the killer. I do not blame any of you for not believing me, but it was not me. I did not use the food printer for my breakfast as I inevitably ate breakfast with all of you. As far as I'm aware, Colin was the last one to use it for the dog treats. I still believe that Colin or Raymond is the killer."

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Thu Oct 19, 2017 6:45 pm

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"The eel wasn't burnt. It was found in the fridge, ready for Yuma to cook, correct? If anything was burnt it was the pillowcase. Also, Rina was killed first. My Logic Dive confirmed it." Damien said.

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Thu Oct 19, 2017 6:46 pm

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"IF Cain or Colin did it..." Simon says, "Maybe their senses could have been deceived somehow, and they didn't realize they were burning the pillowcase outside Ohishi's research center?"

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Thu Oct 19, 2017 6:47 pm

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“I think we need to stop guessing who the killer is, and instead find proof of the killer’s identity.”

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Thu Oct 19, 2017 6:52 pm

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"It is odd that the pillowcase would have been burned by Ohishi's RC," Cain said. "I know where it is, and I'm sure Colin is aware of it's location as well. I'm sure even at night it is visible, so it doesn't make sense for the killer to have lit a fire there unless the killer didn't know Ohishi was there or it was Ohishi herself."

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Thu Oct 19, 2017 6:54 pm

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"Who out of all of us was even capable of going out and finding the eel? Rina must have been killed shortly after 23:55, I imagine. Is it possible someone got the eel beforehand, or was it after 11 that someone left to go do so? I again say that Liza's absence is suspicious. She should have been cleaning at 22:00, yet she wasn't back by 23:00." Damien said. "It seems to me that Liza was the one who planned to strangle Rina with the eel."

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Thu Oct 19, 2017 6:55 pm

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"Who out of all of us was even capable of going out and finding the eel? Rina must have been killed shortly after 23:55, I imagine. Is it possible someone got the eel beforehand, or was it after 11 that someone left to go do so? I again say that Liza's absence is suspicious. She should have been cleaning at 22:00, yet she wasn't back by 23:00." Damien said. "It seems to me that Liza was the one who planned to strangle Rina with the eel."

"If that was the case then what reason would the killer have to dispose of the eel?"

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Thu Oct 19, 2017 6:58 pm

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"Right. We only eliminated Ohishi from suspects because she brought up the eel theory, but she's not out of the picture yet. Though I suppose I can't explain how she could do it in the dark..."

He snaps his fingers. "Whenever we learn a new fact, we learn something else along with it! The killer moved the food, used the eel as the murder weapon, disposed the guns, burned the pillowcase, and fed us the eel for breakfast. We might be able to learn something from this, particularly the last part."

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Thu Oct 19, 2017 7:04 pm

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"I think there's something important hidden in that ash pile by Ohishi's research center..." Simon says, "Maybe instead of asking 'Why did the killer burn the pillowcase by the research room?', we should ask 'Why did the killer think it was safe to burn it by the research room?'"

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Thu Oct 19, 2017 7:05 pm

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"Why not ask 'Why did they burn it at all?' or 'Why did they leave the ashes behind?'"

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Thu Oct 19, 2017 7:06 pm

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"The ashes were in a pile...maybe they weren't burned there, but just dumped?"

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Thu Oct 19, 2017 7:08 pm

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JesusMonroe wrote:

"The ashes were in a pile...maybe they weren't burned there, but just dumped?"

"Dumping there can be used to point us in the wrong direction.. especially given its location."

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Thu Oct 19, 2017 7:10 pm

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"Though it doesn't seem possible to carry the ash."

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Thu Oct 19, 2017 7:11 pm

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Thu Oct 19, 2017 7:11 pm

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"If the killer was blind, that could explain why they didn't get rid of the ashes," Simon says.

Kachu wrote:

"Dumping there can be used to point us in the wrong direction.. especially given its location."

"Perhaps, but they could just as easily dump the ashes in the water with the guns, and Ohishi seems like a random person to decide to frame..."

"Then again, why didn't they just dump the pillowcase with the guns too?"

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Thu Oct 19, 2017 7:12 pm

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"If the killer was blind, then burning the ashes seems like a poor way to dispose of evidence in general."

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Thu Oct 19, 2017 7:12 pm

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"Monokuma!" Colin shouted a bit too loud, causing some to cover their ears. "Can I see the cookbook the shitty shota was reading? Preferably a braille translation?"

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Thu Oct 19, 2017 7:14 pm

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Monokuma hands the cookbook to Raymond to read out. It appears to be an ordinary cookbook, not even mentioning eels.

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Thu Oct 19, 2017 7:16 pm

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"I barely even read that, did you expect me to want to know how to cook eel..." Yuma sighed.

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Thu Oct 19, 2017 7:44 pm

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"Monokuma, Monomi..." Colin began. "We never actually got our laundry done this morning. Could we check it out?"

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Thu Oct 19, 2017 7:51 pm

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"That was something that confused me," Cain commented. "Maribelle and Mikael said they did laundry Monday night, but then they were going to do it again Tuesday morning? Am I understanding right?"

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Thu Oct 19, 2017 7:52 pm

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"Both also volunteered for laundry duty and opted out of breakfast."

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Thu Oct 19, 2017 8:00 pm

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"Maribelle and Liza also had an interaction in the hallway that was observed by Mikael," Cain said. "Perhaps they planned to work together to kill Rina and Maribelle double crossed Liza? If that's the case, then it would have been Mikael who caused the body discovery to trigger. Maybe Maribelle knew if she went up there with Mikael it would trigger and make her appear more innocent."

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Thu Oct 19, 2017 8:21 pm

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"...Well, I can't disprove it right now." said Maribelle. "But that was the only interaction I had with Liza that whole day. I apologized for bumpin' into her, and she just wished me a goodnight. If I'd've known that was the last I'd be seein' of her, I'd have talked to her longer... You know she was so quiet, though."

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Thu Oct 19, 2017 8:27 pm

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"I'll admit, I don't think I ever spoke to either Liza or Rina. They seemed to keep to themselves," Cain replied. He pinched the bridge of his nose and closed his eyes. "No matter how we think about it, there's always something that confounds any theory - what was even burned? Just the pillow case? How did they start a fire without being seen? When was the food moved? A lot of this had to have happened after I went to bed, and of course none of the hall monitors are saying that they got up besides Raymond."

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Thu Oct 19, 2017 8:39 pm

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"Let us not forget that Liza, who was still alive at the time most likely, was shot while it was pitch black." Damien said. "We know Rina died first, and it seems likely she died after 23:55, as she was killed in the Lounge and that is where she had been set to clean at that time. Lights go off at midnight, so Liza was shot in the dark. How did the killer achieve this?"

"I also find it odd that there was a third party at the scene at all. Either Liza or our blackened went to the Lounge to kill Rina, but then what was the other person there for? To me it seems likely that the third party brought the guns, as the one who killed Rina already had their own plan in place, and killing with a weapon that could lead back to them would be counter to their plan to kill with a weapon that would be disposed of when we all ate it. They absolutely went in with intent to kill, but why go to the Lounge? Was it one of the cleaners, who also knew Rina would be there at 23:55? Or did they perhaps hear the struggle and decide to bring guns to settle the matter, taking the right to be the blackened for themselves?"

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Thu Oct 19, 2017 9:18 pm

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"I'll admit, I don't think I ever spoke to either Liza or Rina. They seemed to keep to themselves," Cain replied. He pinched the bridge of his nose and closed his eyes. "No matter how we think about it, there's always something that confounds any theory - what was even burned? Just the pillow case? How did they start a fire without being seen? When was the food moved? A lot of this had to have happened after I went to bed, and of course none of the hall monitors are saying that they got up besides Raymond."

"I got up early in the morning, like I said in my alibi." Veronica added. "I didn't see anything weird on the way to beach though, but something felt off."

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Thu Oct 19, 2017 9:22 pm

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"Something felt off? How do you mean?" Damien asked.

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Thu Oct 19, 2017 9:29 pm

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Veronica shrugged. "I couldn't put my finger on it. Just something felt different."

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Thu Oct 19, 2017 10:13 pm

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Raymond sighs. "That doesn't do much, now does it?"

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Thu Oct 19, 2017 10:27 pm

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"I suppose it must have been the blood or ash, but Veronica didn't feel the need to go check. Understandable, really, we had no reason to be suspicious of anything at the time. In any case, it's near-impossible that the blood and ash came later than that, as it was so close to breakfast when we all gathered. So I don't suppose there's anything to be gained by considering that further."

"Personally I am of the opinion that in order to advance, we must first settle on who it was that killed Rina. Was it Liza or the blackened? I highly, highly doubt that this is a case where one person here killed Rina, then a second person shot Rina's corpse and also killed Liza, so that leaves only the two possibilities I mentioned."

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Thu Oct 19, 2017 10:37 pm

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"Um, to clear up why we did laundry last night and this morning," Mikael began, "We were doing clothes for 7 people each, and the washers have some sort of 'overnight mode' that they're locked into. All I did last night was load the clothes into the washers. This morning we were moving the laundry from the bathhouses to the dryers in the lounge, because the clever designer of this place decided it'd be a good idea to put the machines in separate rooms."

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Thu Oct 19, 2017 10:40 pm

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“The blackened killed Rina. Every move they made such as disposing of the eel and burning the pillowcase only makes sense if they’re covering up their own murder. Had Liza been the one to retrieve the eel, the blackened would’ve just shot her and left the evidence there.

“I stand by my earlier theory. The blackened is the lucky student. Liza walked in on him, probably brought both guns in case she missed once, but misfired against him. He then took the gun from her and finished her off. The only evidence that suggests Liza killed Rina is that she possibly has a hidden talent.”

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Thu Oct 19, 2017 10:43 pm

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Raymond nods in agreement with Colin. "Maybe we should retrace the killer's steps, instead of the other way around? Then we might find something."