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"I have a theory, although it's not completely fleshed out yet..."
[Has Subaru changed his clothes since he arrived here? Or is it the same attire?]
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And do you really think we need to wash off? We could use something as a cover from the paint..."
"Ever since Subaru said that, it's been nagging me... He's wearing a black shirt and tailcoat, isn't he? His attire is completely black except for his cravat and vest. Even his boots are black, so even if there was a smudge of black paint there, it would be unnoticed, wouldn't it?"
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Monokuma pours the bottles over Subaru's clothes but nothing washes off, and certainly no paint.
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"He could have washed it off in the cafe, but-"
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"I don't remember seeing any used water bottles in the cafe as well," SiRReN said. "Subaru didn't clean up that way, if he cleaned up at all. We looked all over the cafe and didn't see anything odd."
"-so Subaru must have washed in some other way. Or perhaps he didn't have the paint at all. No, but that doesn't match-" Alchie stopped mid-way with a sigh. "Any ideas?"
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"Anyway, I've been thinking about some of the circumstances surrounding the crime, and there are some parts which still don't line up." She continued. "Let's assume for now that Matt and Charlie are telling the truth about everything they saw. Who, then, broke the step in the basement? Charlie didn't see Subaru leave the basement and head for the classroom, but Matt did see Subaru coming from somewhere on the right and heading for what was presumably the classroom. That means he wasn't invisible, and it also means he can't have been in the basement at 3. Next we have the can of paint in the classroom. Subaru didn't have the time to return it to the art room - he was with SiRRen the moment he left the classroom (under the current theory), then Matt saw him go to the cafe. Even if he smuggled the can of paint somehow to the cafe, he couldn't get past Charlie to return it to the art room. And don't forget, Jay heard someone moving about in the art room at the time of the discovery announcement, at which point Subaru was at the classroom."
"Maybe the step was broken without being stepped on, broken by some kind of mechanism like extra weights. But the can, and the footsteps? Both of those seem to point to an accomplice to Subaru's actions. Or... maybe even the real killer, with Subaru simply being the accomplice himself."
"There's also the matter of the key. Subaru and SiRRen both were unable to see light coming from the classroom at 3, but when they and Van arrived at 4 they could see light. If we assume the key was blocking the light, then how did it leave the keyhole and become hidden somewhere? It can't have been Karega that did it, just look at the crime scene - she can't have stabbed herself, lain down, poured paint on herself and then moved the paint can back to the art room. Which means someone else took the key. But at no point did Matt ever see someone return to the classroom after Subaru and SiRRen left, at least not until they ran back again with Van. So... either Subaru used some trick to pull the key out of the lock from the other side, or this mysterious accomplice/real-killer took it out when they left the room to move the paint can."
"I have a question! Were people paying attention to what was going on outside the crime scene when everyone arrived? Would it have been possible for someone to hide in the gym and then sneak past while no-one was looking to move the paint can? Especially due to the blackout, and the light inside the room perhaps ruining our night vision."
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[Probably best to actually confirm this before I respond to Solomon's comment :p]
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He turned around. "Any thoughts, Subaru? You've been awfully quiet this whole time."
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"But there's one last bout of reasoning we need to do before we can call ourselves 'done'." said Arthur. "It involves the crime scene, during and after Subaru and SiRReN meet outside the classroom door. And whether the crime scene was actually free of outside influence after they leave to go to the cafe and SiRReN's bedroom, respectively."
"Remember Subaru's initial testimony, and the way the crime scene was discovered by Van, SiRReN and Subaru around 4 AM." recounted Arthur. "Subaru said that he couldn't look through the keyhole because it was blocked by something. But by the time Van and the others were at the door, they could see a light source through the keyhole."
"SiRReN, can you corroborate this fact?" Arthur turned to the cosplayer. "If you can, then that does mean that whatever was in the keyhole was moved, or that the light source was lit after Subaru and SiRReN left to go to their respective destinations. This means that there was someone who was alive in the classroom between the time that SiRReN and Subaru left, walking away from the classroom."
"If the classroom was free from outside influence during this time, then this means that there's a strong possibility that Subaru may not be the killer, but is merely covering for the true killer in order to kill another one of us."
"For example, Karega herself could've been alive at the time Subaru and SiRReN met in the hallway, and then simply taken out the key (or whatever it was that was blocking the keyhole), and committed suicide."
"For Subaru to have modified the crime scene after that meeting," said Arthur, "he would have had to evade Matt's watchful eyes, somehow, after his meeting with SiRReN, but I don't think that's possible without access to the paintcans, which were found in the artroom, and could only have been moved there from the basement, where we believe Jay to be."
"This means that it's at least possible that Karega committed suicide, because there's no one at the soccer match that could have gone to the classroom (they all alibi each other), and the only other person that could have been hiding in a place to modify the crime scene from outside was Cox."
"But the point is this," said Arthur, "Unless Subaru had a way to evade Matt and re-enter the classroom, he almost certainly was not the murderer. Someone modified the scene of the crime after his last known sighting there, and the simplest explanation is that Karega did it herself."
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At Arthur's suggestion, Subaru simply sighed.
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"...It can't have been Karega that did it, just look at the crime scene - she can't have stabbed herself, lain down, poured paint on herself and then moved the paint can back to the art room. "
"This is true..." conceded Arthur. "But might she have poured paint on herself, the knife, then gave the paint cans to Jay, around 1:30 AM, to take with him to the basement, and stabbed herself last? And then Jay delivered the paintcans to the artroom himself, after the body discovery announcement?"
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"This is true..." conceded Arthur. "But might she have poured paint on herself, the knife, then gave the paint cans to Jay, around 1:30 AM, to take with him to the basement, and stabbed herself last? And then Jay delivered the paintcans to the artroom himself, after the body discovery announcement?"
"The way the paint pooled makes it seem very likely it was poured on her while she was lying down." Sakura replied. "Err... I think, anyway. Plus I'm still not sold on the idea of someone... just, stabbing themselves, in the heart no less. Oh, plus, that would have left hand marks in the paint on the handle. Were there hand-prints on the paint on the handle?" She asked openly.
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"Mister Cox…" Flo stifled a giggle. "Sorry, I just wondered something. Is there the possibility that someone discovered the body before SiRReN and Van? Like, they saw the paintbuckets and poured it on Karega before returning them to the art room. Not necessarily as an accomplice, but to mess with us? I normally wouldn't say this, but there are people here who would do that."
"The three person rule doesn't disallow that, I guess. So maybe!" Sakura said. "And that lines up with some of what I've been saying, I think."
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To Flo's suggestion, he shook his head. "No, the door was broken down by Van, which means that it was locked from the inside. Or are you suggesting this person was hiding inside the room this whole time?" He raised an eyebrow.
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To Flo's suggestion, he shook his head. "No, the door was broken down by Van, which means that it was locked from the inside. Or are you suggesting this person was hiding inside the room this whole time?" He raised an eyebrow.
"I believe Van had testified that he didn't check whether the door was locked before breaking it down. " said Arthur.
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