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"Perhaps we should collect information from everybody now before deciding who to accuse wantonly?" Maurice suggested from a corner of the table, taking a sip of his tea calmly. "Yes, Vincent and Twilip both appear quite suspicious, but there's no need to be so hasty. There's quite a lot of things we need to unpack here, yes?" He shook his head. "What even happened at the end there, Archer? Were you responsible for Wyn's death? What on earth did you do? Explain yourself, posthaste. It seems we're between you and your own child at the moment as potential witches."
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Basil unceremoniously chucked a plum across the table at Lippy.

"DON'T YOU DARE RAISE YOUR VOICE TO MY DAUGHTER LIKE THAT!" He decried wagging a cautionary finger at his sister

"BESIDES! You absolutely never mentioned that detail before when we were in the tea room! Lucine even called you out on it there! I saw Lucine myself! I have no idea what makes you think I wouldn't count as an observer!"

Twilip starts cackling "Oh, apologies Basil. Although maybe you could spend time raising Violet to be a little less brain dead if we get a next life, okay? Beside if you're all so sure I'm lying then you have a chance to waste one of our precious choices and find out then I'm riiiiiiight?" She continues cackling.

"Of course if I'm not lying you've all been such good little pawns for the witches haven't you? But I'm not am Iiiiiiiiiiiiiiii?" A twisted smiles forms across Twilip's face as she waits for what's next.
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"Basil doesn't watch out for people, he chooses someone specific and then follows them," Bertram said patiently. "I don't know if I believe Twilip yet, but what she says makes sense: someone who can hide their visits could still be followed by Basil. This would explain why I didn't see who killed me in the second cycle... though it is hard to swallow."
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Robin stands slowly, letting her gaze sweep across the room. She is quivering with fury.

"We've all had to suffer unimaginable horrors. We've died, we've watched our loved ones die, we've... lost everything to the witches, all in a matter of days. I had to see my husband die twice. He was murdered. Brutally. Twice. By the same person." She levels a glare at Twilip. "I couldn't prove Zach's innocence while we were alive, but now, we have another chance. He deserves justice. We all deserve justice. And it starts here. Twilip, I vote to confirm you for the evil witch you are!"
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Uncle Billy shoveled food into his face, following the conversation with some interest.

"I think Twily's story has some merit, even if she's been a lot more suspicious than Zack. It hard to take her seriously though since she'd being so totally insane. We should figure out what all happen on last night and why Arthur screw everything up first."

"Still," he remarked, "It a shame that no matter what we do, Asser get away with killing me twice. I guess that society we live in though. Justice, after all, is quite expensive!"
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“We should vote for Archie for coming up with the most retarded plan ever.” ‘Mickey’ huffed in disbelief at his former servant. “What the flying fuck were you thinking? You think we’re gonna buy whatever bullshit you shovel?”

He then turned to his sister. “But we’ll get to that. She goes first.”

"It's simple enough, really."

"I decided that it would be to our benefit to confirm more mortals at the end of everything. If all the witches truly were dead, or the last witch was Madame Wyn, we would be able to confirm two, or potentially three more mortals if Master Bertram was chosen by the witches."

"But because we lost... We can absolutely confirm that my own flesh and blood has been lost to foul magics. Allister is a witch."
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Briggs glared at Archer.

"...You disappointed me, sir. To cast doubt upon your own son like that. I thought I knew you."
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Briggs glared at Archer.

"...You disappointed me, sir. To cast doubt upon your own son like that. I thought I knew you."

"I could say the same to a friend who had been stealing from those I respected for however many years, plotting to abandon us when it was all over so he could move on and leech from someone else."

Archer sighed. "We all do what we must."
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"My choices are my own, but that boy is still a child!" Briggs snapped, raising his voice. He gave Allister a look of concern before crossing his arms, keeping his eyes on Archer.
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"My choices are my own, but that boy is still a child!" Briggs snapped, raising his voice. He gave Allister a look of concern before crossing his arms, keeping his eyes on Archer.

"Is he!?" Archer snapped back. "What a perfect disguise would an unassuming child be! Votes for the death of others when the time calls for it but otherwise remains idle! But he's just a kid, yes? Why are we not giving him the same treatment as Milady Lucine?"

"I am not too keen on entertaining the thought that my own flesh and blood has been taken by magic and replaced by whatever monster he is now! But my previous actions have all but confirmed it for me. That isn't Allister anymore, that's a witch."
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"Oh..." Gloria blushes a deep shade of red at Vincent's question.

"To avoid the Moonview curse of course! Avoid the bickering and the tension and the greed my family is prone to. Look at Mickey and Lucine! This whole inheritance deal changed their lives for the worse! So I just didn't wanna give anymore money to my stuffy, children with boring jobs, since the money would only continue to corrupt them."

"I love your music, Vincent! It's so lovely!"

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Gloria wipes her face.

"Anyway, I see you as like, an artist, who followed his dreams instead of just starting some boring business or doing accounting or whatever weird boring historical thing that Twilip is up to that I don't fully understand. That's why I figured you would be the most exciting person to receive the money! And I thought you would be less easily corrupted..."

"I'm not sure if I was right about that Vincent, but I suppose you already have the money, so I don't see it as a big deal..."

"Anyway, of course I had to give Billy Moonview money! Peregrine and I always regretted not raising him, and since he was born without much, I figured I could make up those lost years with some money. I really thought he would appreciate the thought at least, and I knew he wouldn't be corrupted like the rest of us would either."

"And then of course I gave my best friend Robin money! I really just thought she is the purest of heart among us humans, and so I figured she would know what to do with the fortune!"

"Anyway, that's about that. I really didn't want to hurt anyone's feelings, but money is no good for us, and like most of you are well off anyway!"

Gloria looks a little sheepish, stumbling through her explanation. It's clear that she's not fully owning it, but she is being honest with you all.

"Ah yes! So let's go back to talking about Archer and Allister, shall we?"
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Robin's anger simmers down a bit as she is distracted by Gloria's explanation.

"Wait... That's the family curse? Just - obsession with money?" She gives her friend a perplexed look. "Did you not know about the witches at all before any of this?"
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"He is still your son, witch or not," Briggs said, his voice somber. "Perhaps he's disillusioned because you raised him like a slave. Regardless, I still stand by him if you refuse to. You are a true Moonview, after all."
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Wyn puts a hand to her chest, a disgruntled look on her face.

"Oh dear... I, I died and then we lost, again?" Wyn frowns. "This will not do, not at all. I think we all want out of this mess, once and for all."

"You." She turns to Vincent. "I'll admit, you're the most suspicious one of the bunch. However, I'm not sure if voting for you would be a smart move... It seems like your entire purpose is to interfere with the mystery and waste our time, and we have a limited amount of votes..."

"Ah, of course, my investigation of Jackie. I learned that she visits one person every night and sees who visits them. Another incomplete investigation, of course, but I suppose that's all we're going to get."

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"It pretty much impossible that both Lucy and Allitter not demon children," Uncle Billy remarked, "Unfortunately one of them probably a witch. I guess both of them could be. That lame but possible. I think Lucy's role claim is suspicious. We already able to tell between mortal or witch without her help for most part. And I suspect she caught in lie to due to my action at beginning of Arc 2. If Twily's role claim true, it could answer question of who killed her. Only problem is I visit at beginning of Arc 3 and survive, so she not sure she can be Big Witch."

Upon hearing Gloria's explanation, he smiled.

"Good to hear you not try to curse me, Gloria!" he said, "But gift really not necessary. Having real family good enough for be! Though I won't exactly turn down such a generous sum, of course!"
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Robin's anger simmers down a bit as she is distracted by Gloria's explanation.

"Wait... That's the family curse? Just - obsession with money?" She gives her friend a perplexed look. "Did you not know about the witches at all before any of this?"


"Uh... well obviously our family is cursed or whatever... We're the descendants of the great witch hunter of legend Forsythia! Naturally we must be cursed, it just fits! I'm sorry Robin, are you disappointed with me?"

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Upon hearing Gloria's explanation, he smiled.

"Good to hear you not try to curse me, Gloria!" he said, "But gift really not necessary. Having real family good enough for be! Though I won't exactly turn down such a generous sum, of course!"


"Aww Billy! You are just too cute! Thank you!" Gloria says, immediately choking back tears.
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"Auntie Gloria, why didn't you give the money to me? I've always been a great nephew and surely I'm the purest of heart," replied James.
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"James, you are my most deeply shameful nephew, and I love you!" Gloria sobs while tears stream gently down her cheeks.

"You can have another loan, you know I can't say no forever!"
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"James, if there's anyone who's been affected by the family curse of being addicted to money, it's you," Asher stated, leaning back in his chair. "Can't really say I blame Grandmother for not giving the inheritance except to those three, anyway. We all have plenty of money, and it's made most of us into snobbish, prestigious assholes. But... whatever."

He sighed and shook his head.

"In any case, on to more important matters... Either Allister is a witch, Archer is, or they both are. Admittedly... I'm more suspicious of Archer than Allister. After all, Archer, you copied my ability to kill Wyn, did you not? What possessed you to do that?"
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"In any case, on to more important matters... Either Allister is a witch, Archer is, or they both are. Admittedly... I'm more suspicious of Archer than Allister. After all, Archer, you copied my ability to kill Wyn, did you not? What possessed you to do that?"

"Have I not already explained myself?" Archer turns to face the boy. "My goal was to confirm us as mortals. Either you or Master Bertram, Myself, and Allister. Clearly I was mistaken to have faith in my own son."
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"I believe I believe aunt Twilip would be an adequate opening vote." Lucine elucidated. "We stand to gain a lot of knowledge from voting for her, after all."
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James asked Gloria, "If Basil is telling the truth, would he count as an observer?"


"Oh James darling! What an interesting question! Obviously it's possible that Twilip, my favorite daughter, is lying to you all. I will say though, that there are certain people who learn information at the end of the twilight, or at least supposedly. This would be like Bertram, Zachary, Basil, Wyn, and Jackie. That group of people could be called observers, or investigators, or whatever else they might be called!"

"Is that an adequate answer?" she takes a moment to lick some juice off of her fingers.
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"Archer has generally used his power to help us," Bertram pointed out. "I can confirm that he has visited me multiple times, swapping me to try and save lives. Allister, meanwhile, has a role that a witch could make use of. Allister is the far more suspect of the two, to me.

"As for Lucine... Well, I really don't want to consider it, but I have to. If the line of deliberation ends up showing she's innocent, all the better. To that end, I say her claimed ability is suspicious, as Billy pointed out. We were generally able to tell the difference even without her. Add to that the occurrence in the first twilight of the second cycle, where she was 'wrong' about having visited Twilip. If her role was a lie to begin with, then it would make sense that she'd make a mistake when she thought she visited Basil but actually visited Twilip. As the third twilight of the third cycle showed, it's very possible to interfere with Billy's talents, so it seems far more likely to me that Lucine did indeed visit Twilip without realising, and made he claims based on the notion that she'd visited Basil.

"If her role is as Twilip said, then it would explain how I died the first time. I didn't see anyone other than Maurice visit me, but if Lucine could hide her presence then that's to be expected. Why would anyone try to kill me of all people unless they were sure they could go unseen? And of course by targeting me they got Maurice too, allowing witches to win the cycle.

"Lastly, while this is only a theory, I posit that the witches generally possess talents that wouldn't be much help in the hands of a mortal. Vincent confuses observers. Violet does nothing. Allister doesn't do much. Lucine, if Twilip is telling the truth, follows this pattern."
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"James, if there's anyone who's been affected by the family curse of being addicted to money, it's you," Asher stated, leaning back in his chair. "Can't really say I blame Grandmother for not giving the inheritance except to those three, anyway. We all have plenty of money, and it's made most of us into snobbish, prestigious assholes. But... whatever."

He sighed and shook his head.

"In any case, on to more important matters... Either Allister is a witch, Archer is, or they both are. Admittedly... I'm more suspicious of Archer than Allister. After all, Archer, you copied my ability to kill Wyn, did you not? What possessed you to do that?"


"Well...what's really wrong with money, dear? Do you think you would have been able to live the life you've lived if your father didn't have as much money as he does? Count your blessings, darling."

Wyn adjusts her dress strap and then turns to the others. "Anyways, I agree with the others. I too shall vote for Twilip."
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"Uh... well obviously our family is cursed or whatever... We're the descendants of the great witch hunter of legend Forsythia! Naturally we must be cursed, it just fits! I'm sorry Robin, are you disappointed with me?"


"Um." Robin blinks a few times. "No? I just - got confused, I guess."

She bites her lip. Money isn't the curse that landed everyone here, though.

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"Oh James darling! What an interesting question! Obviously it's possible that Twilip, my favorite daughter, is lying to you all. I will say though, that there are certain people who learn information at the end of the twilight, or at least supposedly. This would be like Bertram, Zachary, Basil, Wyn, and Jackie. That group of people could be called observers, or investigators, or whatever else they might be called!"

"Is that an adequate answer?" she takes a moment to lick some juice off of her fingers.


"That-- doesn't reconcile with Twilip's claim at all, does it?" She shoots her sister-in-law another irate look.
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"Oh, that explains it!" Vincent laughs as he smiles at Gloria. "With this amount of money, I should be able to supports my career as a musician and my family!"

".... Except my family is waiting for me to come home..." The musician said with a sad look on his face. "I miss them... How long ago was it that I last saw them?"
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James seemed to be quite pleased probably because his loan had finally been accepted, "Thanks for the loan Auntie Gloria, as your favourite nephew I promise that I won't you let you down. However, Twilip it seems as if Bas really is an observer so then how do you explain him noticing Lucine?"
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"Archer has generally used his power to help us," Bertram pointed out. "I can confirm that he has visited me multiple times, swapping me to try and save lives. Allister, meanwhile, has a role that a witch could make use of. Allister is the far more suspect of the two, to me.

"As for Lucine... Well, I really don't want to consider it, but I have to. If the line of deliberation ends up showing she's innocent, all the better. To that end, I say her claimed ability is suspicious, as Billy pointed out. We were generally able to tell the difference even without her. Add to that the occurrence in the first twilight of the second cycle, where she was 'wrong' about having visited Twilip. If her role was a lie to begin with, then it would make sense that she'd make a mistake when she thought she visited Basil but actually visited Twilip. As the third twilight of the third cycle showed, it's very possible to interfere with Billy's talents, so it seems far more likely to me that Lucine did indeed visit Twilip without realising, and made he claims based on the notion that she'd visited Basil.

"If her role is as Twilip said, then it would explain how I died the first time. I didn't see anyone other than Maurice visit me, but if Lucine could hide her presence then that's to be expected. Why would anyone try to kill me of all people unless they were sure they could go unseen? And of course by targeting me they got Maurice too, allowing witches to win the cycle.

"Lastly, while this is only a theory, I posit that the witches generally possess talents that wouldn't be much help in the hands of a mortal. Vincent confuses observers. Violet does nothing. Allister doesn't do much. Lucine, if Twilip is telling the truth, follows this pattern."


"Then, father, why would I try to kill you, knowing full well that such a stunt would give away a trick such as invisibility?" Lucine asked. "This alleged role is also quite convenient, don't you think? It exonerates uncle Maurice, it solves the issue of aunt Twilip's murder on the second cycle, doesn't it seem a bit fabricated to you? Not to mention, none of this explains how uncle Basil clearly saw me."
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James seemed to be quite pleased probably because his loan had finally been accepted, "Thanks for the loan Auntie Gloria, as your favourite nephew I promise that I won't you let you down. However, Twilip it seems as if Bas really is an observer so then how do you explain him noticing Lucine?"

“We already know Vincent’s power, yeah? If both of them are witches then he was covering for Luce. Cousin Vincent also claimed to visit me that night.”
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James seemed to be quite pleased probably because his loan had finally been accepted, "Thanks for the loan Auntie Gloria, as your favourite nephew I promise that I won't you let you down. However, Twilip it seems as if Bas really is an observer so then how do you explain him noticing Lucine?"


"Hey, Ms. Gloria, how about you give me a handy loan? I can pay it off in about a hundred years."
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“We already know Vincent’s power, yeah? If both of them are witches then he was covering for Luce. Cousin Vincent also claimed to visit me that night.”

"Brother, be quiet." Lucine countered expertly. "We have no reason to believe someone who is, to any intelligent observer, a confirmed witch."
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James seemed to be quite pleased probably because his loan had finally been accepted, "Thanks for the loan Auntie Gloria, as your favourite nephew I promise that I won't you let you down. However, Twilip it seems as if Bas really is an observer so then how do you explain him noticing Lucine?"


"Hey, Ms. Gloria, how about you give me a handy loan? I can pay it off in about a hundred years."


"Briggs I pay you and I let you steal family heirlooms! What else could you want?!"

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"From what I understand, Twilip says that Lucine can hide her visits from 'observers'. That means that if she visits me I wouldn't see her, and if Basil follows her he would see her visit 'no-one'," Bertram said. "Vincent, meanwhile, can disguise himself as someone else when visiting them. In combination, Lucine can claim to visit anyone she likes to autopsy them, while sending Vincent off to visit them in her place. That way everything lines up."
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Basil paused for a moment at James words.

"No...no you're onto something there James. If Vincent visited Mickey that night disguised as Lucine that explains what I'd seen, since she sneaks around others."

He glared down the table.

"A ploy that could only be concocted by witches in allegiance. Almost certainly Vincent and Lucine are witches!"

"I vote for Lucine"
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Maurice nodded. "It seems likely Lucine could be a witch. Only she could have had the talent necessary to kill Bertram in the nightmare, and obviously I know I wasn't responsible for that... That said, I do not think we should go for her immediately." He sipped his tea quietly. "I vote to guess Twilip first instead. She has more information to give us even if we get her wrong, but I believe she's likely to be a witch anyway."
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"You are voting on me based on the words of a man who has done nothing but deceive us with every damned breath he has taken since he set foot in our home." Lucine answered Basil.
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"One other thing. Vincent can disguise himself as whoever he likes to visit people, yes?" Bertram began. "When Basil followed him the one time, however, he saw where Vincent went. What's notable is that we were all quite open about the idea of following Vincent, so perhaps he simply 'disguised himself as himself' as it were, and visited someone he knew the witches weren't targeting in an attempt to look innocent and to conceal his ability.

"I will vote for Lucine. Thankfully we are not shooting anyone this time, so if I am wrong, we will find out and all will be well."

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"You are voting on me based on the words of a man who has done nothing but deceive us with every damned breath he has taken since he set foot in our home." Lucine answered Basil.


"We need not believe his words. If his role is what we think it is, and yours is what Twilip claims it is, then it's a logical use of his talents."

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Once Zachary found himself in the Golden Land, he'd immediately begun looking around, trying to find the seam, the crack in the facade, something that would tell him that this place wasn't what it appeared to be.

As the discussion went on, he tried to keep up with it, but it proved quite difficult. Everyone was as lively as usual and Zachary didn't know where to get a word in edgewise. It certainly reminded him of past family gatherings, where he'd try to be polite and wait for an opening to speak which never came.

When that chance finally came though, Zach spoke up. "I am voting for Twilip. She killed me. Brutally. Twice. And even if she thought she was justified, my process of elimination guarantees that she was the final witch in the story. Even if Allister's a witch, I don't see how he could survive the lynch long enough to draw the circle in the boat.

"I also want to express my apology. I'm sorry for anyone I insulted over the course of the time loops. I was . . . going through a lot, as you might understand." He shuddered as he looked to his wife for comfort, remembering her deaths in all three of the time loops. "But so have a lot of us. This family has been ripped apart, not by us necessarily as the letter at the beginning of the third loop claimed, but by the witches who want nothing but to see us torn asunder. Well, I'm done being complacent and wishing to die. If I wish to call myself a Moonview, then I need to fight this travesty with every fiber of my being."

But that could wait. For now, Zach was famished, and so took some fruits from the table and began to munch on them in silence, taking in the discussion around him.
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Violet folds her arms. "I know who I'm voting for. You, Twilip. Hope the grave you dug yourself was comfortable enough."
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Basil looked down at his daughter "Honey, I know Lippy is exactly that, but I don't think she's the witch in this situation. Not while Vincent is so obviously suspicious and was in at the right place at the right time to cover for Twilip!" He pleaded with her.
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