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"Um, question, sorry." Nana raised her hand. "Isn't this, like, a lot of guessing about using the car and setting off the trap? I mean, I thought we were supposed to figure out what everyone was doing..."


“Oh, er... well, what’s wrong with working backwards?” Skylar asked sheepishly.
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"Um, question, sorry." Nana raised her hand. "Isn't this, like, a lot of guessing about using the car and setting off the trap? I mean, I thought we were supposed to figure out what everyone was doing..."


"That is true...but maybe we'll be able to figure out who did it by determining who was able to get the laptop at the time." Annabella said.
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"But, like, we don't even know if that's what actually happened, right?" Nana frowned.
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"But, like, we don't even know if that's what actually happened, right?" Nana frowned.


"We don't know anything that happened," Skylar retorted, "Look, we have to start somewhere and honestly, we're bound to come across the truth somehow if we try to follow an idea for more than twenty seconds. Even if I'm totally wrong about this, I still think it's worth it to at least see if it works first. With no memory of anything, this entire trial is based on guesswork until we accidentally get something right."
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"You'll be able to get a much clearer idea of what was and wasn't possible if you first figure out what everyone was up to," Adam said. "For example, what did Skylar, Honda and Rose do after Skylar was about to fall off the bridge? Don't forget, you can always ask if a theory is possible, or whether certain actions would have certain outcomes or not."
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"Um, well, I'd think they would try to help her, right?" Nana suggested. "Oh, Miss Skylar and Mr. Honda were half wet, weren't they? Would they get like that by falling in the river?"
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"If they fell in they'd probably get wet all over. Furthermore, the rocks down below would probably injure anyone who fell off the bridge."
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"Ah, where else can you get wet?" Althea asked. "Is the river shallow enough to stand, rather than fall, waist deep in it?"
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"Honda's cape was missing, right? Maybe it fell into the river and they went in to try and get it." Annabella offered.
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"Ah, where else can you get wet?" Althea asked. "Is the river shallow enough to stand, rather than fall, waist deep in it?"


"If you stood in the river you'd only get wet up to your waist," Adam confirmed with a little virtual nod.
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"U-um... but there was blood on one of the rocks under the bridge, right...? But Miss Skylar and Mr. Honda weren't hurt, so..." Nana started to shake a bit. "Do... do you think Miss Rose fell...? A-and Miss Skylar and Mr. Honda went down to save her?"
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"U-um... but there was blood on one of the rocks under the bridge, right...? But Miss Skylar and Mr. Honda weren't hurt, so..." Nana started to shake a bit. "Do... do you think Miss Rose fell...? A-and Miss Skylar and Mr. Honda went down to save her?"


"You know, that's not such a bad hypothesis. I remember losing my balance and beginning to fall, but maybe I never did... Yet, even if Rose did fall, how the hell did she wind up in the Nexus room?"
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"W-well... I guess you and Mr. Honda carried her there? We found a blood trail leading into the room... Oh, maybe you used his cape to move her? It was bloody when we found it..."

She shuddered again. "O-oh no... That's a lot of blood, isn't it..."
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"Well, we know Honda's cape was set up in the conputer room as a stretcher, and we know there was a trail of bloodstains leading in to the Nexus room. Since no one else here has an injury that bad, it's possible that the person laid up on the stretcher was Rose."

"Skylar wears gloves too," Eli added, "She could have been the one using the computer terminal."
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Franzise Deauxnim wrote:
"W-well... I guess you and Mr. Honda carried her there? We found a blood trail leading into the room... Oh, maybe you used his cape to move her? It was bloody when we found it..."

She shuddered again. "O-oh no... That's a lot of blood, isn't it..."


"But Honda's cape was found in the research room, no? So maybe we did carry her, but we didn't bring her to the Nexus room," Skylar nodded. "Perhaps... hm."
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"Um, I'm not sure why Miss Rose would have been taken to the Nexus Room in particular... but Mr. Taylor was in front of it with medical supplies from the base, right? So, like, maybe she was taken there to rest and then Miss Skylar went to the research room to call for help?"
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"Yeah, you probably took her to the research room to try to help her, seein' as that's where the cape was. But then, for whatever reason, Rose went to the nexus room. And I guess y'all weren't there to stop her."

"You know, we still don't know why the Nexus was used. Is it possible Rose used it?"
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"Yeah, you probably took her to the research room to try to help her, seein' as that's where the cape was. But then, for whatever reason, Rose went to the nexus room. And I guess y'all weren't there to stop her."

"You know, we still don't know why the Nexus was used. Is it possible Rose used it?"


"Y'know, I don't know why anyone would want to use the thing anyway. It seems super inconvenient. Either way, I agree with this theory."
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"Capes aren't made for carrying people. It probably started to tear, after which it would have been too dangerous to keep carrying anyone on it," Adam theorised. "As for the Nexus room, it is the deepest part of the temple... I suppose it's not unreasonable people might have thought it the safest."
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"Quiet Adam, the adults are talking."
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"Yeah, you probably took her to the research room to try to help her, seein' as that's where the cape was. But then, for whatever reason, Rose went to the nexus room. And I guess y'all weren't there to stop her."

"You know, we still don't know why the Nexus was used. Is it possible Rose used it?"

"That's what I was thinking as well." Honda said. "About Rose going to the Nexus room, that is. If the blood trail lead into the room, it's possible that was her blood, if she was indeed injured."

"However, I feel as if this raises even more questions. Let's assume that Rose was injured. If she did go to the Nexus room, wouldn't there be blood throughout all of the corridors? This would also mean she would have been the one to set off the boulder trap, but I don't think she would have been able to escape it with her 'injuries'."
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"Maybe Rose's body was wrapped up in the cape instead of using it as a makeshift stretcher." Annabella said. "That would be a lot easier, and it wouldn't tear the cape."
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"Maybe Rose's body was wrapped up in the cape instead of using it as a makeshift stretcher." Annabella said. "That would be a lot easier, and it wouldn't tear the cape."


"Yet, Honda's cape was already torn when it was found, right?"
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"Maybe Rose's body was wrapped up in the cape instead of using it as a makeshift stretcher." Annabella said. "That would be a lot easier, and it wouldn't tear the cape."


"Yet, Honda's cape was already torn when it was found, right?"

"It was." Honda confirmed. "And it was also found in the research room, not near the Nexus room."
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"Oh, wait! There were some poles and a cloth missing from the research room, too. Maybe when the cape started ripping, you made a better stretcher from those?"
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"Yet, Honda's cape was already torn when it was found, right?"


Annabella shrugged. "Maybe it was first used as a stretcher, but once the tear was made the body was wrapped up? I'm not sure on all this to be honest."
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"Oh, wait! There were some poles and a cloth missing from the research room, too. Maybe when the cape started ripping, you made a better stretcher from those?"


"That makes sense," Skylar nodded in agreement. "But do we know where the poles ended up?"
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"Oh, wait! There were some poles and a cloth missing from the research room, too. Maybe when the cape started ripping, you made a better stretcher from those?"


"That makes sense," Skylar nodded in agreement. "But do we know where the poles ended up?"

"Well, if they weren't found, Rose must still have them." Althea said, like that wasn't creepy as hell.
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Franzise Deauxnim wrote:
"Oh, wait! There were some poles and a cloth missing from the research room, too. Maybe when the cape started ripping, you made a better stretcher from those?"

"That sounds possible. It would also explain why we couldn't find them, as they'd most likely still be in the Nexus room."
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"Well, if they weren't found, Rose must still have them." Althea said, like that wasn't creepy as hell.


"Okay, sooooo... I think we've got a pretty good thing going, but what does it all mean? Because so far it looks like none of us went into the room with her. So unless someone rigged a trap in there or she didn't 'accidentally' fall from the bridge and die from her wounds, we don't have a killer."
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"Er...is there a chance the killer used the Nexus? Maybe someone threw Rose in their to trigger the trap, and then the Nexus would make us lose our memories or something..?"
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"This is gonna sound crazy, but is it possible for the boulder trap to have triggered the spear trap?" Honda theorizes. "Like maybe there's a trigger at the end of the hallway the boulder hit, which releases the spears? I know it sounds stupid, but it might be possible..."

"Or maybe there's just a trigger in the Nexus Room or something." He mumbled. "That's possible too, right...?"
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"This is gonna sound crazy, but is it possible for the boulder trap to have triggered the spear trap?" Honda theorizes. "Like maybe there's a trigger at the end of the hallway the boulder hit, which releases the spears? I know it sounds stupid, but it might be possible..."

"Or maybe there's just a trigger in the Nexus Room or something." He mumbled. "That's possible too, right...?"

"While those are indeed fine possibilities... I must inform you all that the only triggers are the ones each of you found. If there were any outside of the Nexus room, you would have likely found them. And I can confirm that there is no trigger inside the Nexus room itself."
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"This is gonna sound crazy, but is it possible for the boulder trap to have triggered the spear trap?" Honda theorizes. "Like maybe there's a trigger at the end of the hallway the boulder hit, which releases the spears? I know it sounds stupid, but it might be possible..."

"Or maybe there's just a trigger in the Nexus Room or something." He mumbled. "That's possible too, right...?"

"While those are indeed fine possibilities... I must inform you all that the only triggers are the ones each of you found. If there were any outside of the Nexus room, you would have likely found them. And I can confirm that there is no trigger inside the Nexus room itself."

"Well, shit. Now what?" Honda asks.
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"So then... There really is no doubt about it?" Althea leaned on her podium. "The trap must have been triggered from inside the wall?"
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"I might have an idea..." Honda says. "Adam. Is it possible for someone to control the animals with the transmitter? Or is the transmitter only used for pacifying the animals?"
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"I might have an idea..." Honda says. "Adam. Is it possible for someone to control the animals with the transmitter? Or is the transmitter only used for pacifying the animals?"

"No, such a thing isn't possible."
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"I might have an idea..." Honda says. "Adam. Is it possible for someone to control the animals with the transmitter? Or is the transmitter only used for pacifying the animals?"

"No, such a thing isn't possible."

"Damn it." Honda complained. "I really thought I was on to something there... So much for that theory."
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"Er...is there a chance the killer used the Nexus? Maybe someone threw Rose in their to trigger the trap, and then the Nexus would make us lose our memories or something..?"


"You know, this brings up an interesting point that's been bothering me all this time..." Eve said, sounding thoughtful. "How many of you chumps have heard of Schrödinger's Cat?"

"Isn't that just basic high school level quantum?" Taylor said, shrugging.

"Hey, some of you guys might've flunked school! And who wants to pay attention in class anyway? For those unawares, it's a thought experiment about a cat in a closed box," Eve elucidated.

"Oh, how cute!" Althea exclaimed.

"Also inside the box is a bottle of poison, and a hammer that's set to break it open if a radioactive particle happens to decay," Eve continued.

"O-oh... um, less cute."

"The particle might decay, or it might not. It's truly random! But to everyone outside the box, they don't know if the particle decayed or not, and have no way to tell due to it being purely random. They don't know if the cat is alive or dead! And it's only by opening the box to see that we can find out. Until then, the cat could be thought of as alive and dead at the same time! It lives in a state of probabilistic uncertainty."

"Spooooky. Your point?" Skylar asked, unimpressed.

"The Nexus room is exactly the same as the box! No-one knows what happened in there, because the Nexus wiped our memories. Rose might be dead, or she might not be. Of course, that alone wouldn't be strange: either the killer succeeded or they didn't, that's deterministic. But what if... we decided to use the handheld communicator to send a message of our own back to the point it was activated? If you guys solved the case, you'd know enough to be able to find the handheld and warn Rose about her impending demise!

"The communicator can only be used once for any given point in time. But because none of us, not even the one who may or may not have activated it in the past, remember using it, we have no way to tell when it was used. Did someone activate it at just before 14:30 to send a message slightly into the future in order to wipe everyone's memories? Or did you all activate it later on today to send a message back in time to just before 14:30, thus thwarting the plan? That Nexus room is a black box to the universe right now because we don't know the answer, we can't know the answer. The outcome changes depending on the outcome of this trial; the result of the attack changes based on events that happen after the attack. You could say this is a Schrödinger's Murder!

"Of course alternatively we could find out the answer right here and now by 'opening the box' and finding a way into the Nexus room. If we do that Rose will settle into one state, dead or alive, and there'll be nothing anyone can do about it because the way the Nexus was used will have been decided. But where's the fun in that?"
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"If I understand this correctly, we can still save Rose, right?" Honda asked. "If Rose is dead, what will happen to her killer if we succeed? Would they still be punished?"
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