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"Bzzt, so at this point we are in agreement that the killer used the shower, correct?" V.A.L. asked.

"If they used the shower they are either a) still wet, bzzt, like Ultimates James and Koichi, or b) had enough time to dry, bzzt."

"Bzzt, could it be that Ultimate Florian was aiding the killer? After bringing Ultimate Rinea to the shower, Ultimate Florian was in fact killed and taken to the shed in the shower curtain, bzzt. Then, when the killer returned to the showers to wash off the blood and dispose of Ultimate Rinea, her body was already gone, taken by the monster, bzzt? So the curtain was simply folded and left behind, bzzt."

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"Bzzt, can we eliminate anyone who wouldn't have been able to go to the showers, bzzt?" V.A.L. asked. "Do we assume everyone underground couldn't have done it, bzzt? And anyone who was always with someone couldn't have done it? Who are we really left with, bzzt?"
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"Bzzt, so at this point we are in agreement that the killer used the shower, correct?" V.A.L. asked.

"If they used the shower they are either a) still wet, bzzt, like Ultimates James and Koichi, or b) had enough time to dry, bzzt."

"Bzzt, could it be that Ultimate Florian was aiding the killer? After bringing Ultimate Rinea to the shower, Ultimate Florian was in fact killed and taken to the shed in the shower curtain, bzzt. Then, when the killer returned to the showers to wash off the blood and dispose of Ultimate Rinea, her body was already gone, taken by the monster, bzzt? So the curtain was simply folded and left behind, bzzt."

The robot looked thoughtful. "I feel like the curtain being folded is important, bzzt. Who would take the time to do that, bzzt?"


"Actually, the curtain was not folded, Koichi found it in a heap on the floor. It was between the shower cubicle and the changing room it opens out onto."
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((Ugh, don't know why I thought it was folded))

"Bzzt, my mistake," V.A.L. beeped. "Aside from that detail, though, does it seem plausible to have happened that way, bzzt?"
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"I think that theory is possible, but, why was it necessary to bring Rinea to the showers specifically to begin with?"

"Unfortunately various people could potentially have done it, I think. In terms of who was unaccounted for, we have Florian, Raul, Oscar, Koichi, James, Rinea and possibly Irene if she had simply lied about the lifeline."
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"We should also consider the murder weapon, I think. Four possibilities come to mind: Oscar's knife, Raul's knife, Irene's knife, and Rinea's scalpel. We know both Florian and Rinea received wounds from weapons like these, and I'm not sure anyone else had access to them. The one exception would be someone being able to take Rinea's scalpel, but the one most likely to do that is Florian which would not explain how he died."

"Oh, and it might also be worth noting that Rinea seemed to have been conscious before she died... j-judging by her expression in the video..."
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"Ok well best I got is that Florian brought Rinea to the showers cause it was an easy place to kill her and wash up afterwards. Unfortunately, James was already showering off his stupid paint bullshit and they got into an altercation, which James won. Then uh, somehow Florian got to the shed." Jack shrugged, clearly aware that the theory was half-assed.
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"Maybe we should consider why the killer put Florian in the woodchipper, and what could've gone wrong when his body didn't get accepted?"
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"Ugh, do we really NEED to?" Urumi shuddered. "Well... maybe his killer wanted to make the victim unidentifiable?" She immediately shook her head. "No, wait, that doesn't make sense, it'd be easy to figure out by who was missing. Um... maybe there was something on his body that would indicate who the killer was?"
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"Could be the original intention may have been to hide the cause of death on both fronts." Oscar suggests.

"Well, isn't it possible that both victims were meant to go into the wood chipper? But after Floarian's metal hand jammed the machine, they had to improvise a way to dispose of Rinea's body? Just my two cents."
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"They can't have been planning to hide the body, as we'd still see the... remains. So it seems reasonable that they wanted to hide the cause of death. The cause of death was knife wounds, so... the killer is someone who would be incriminated if we saw the victim had knife wounds. In other words someone who is known to have a knife... a-and R-Raul did try to give Irene his knife after they left the shed, m-maybe to try and get rid of it or incriminate her..."
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Urumi held her head with one hand, looking rather drained at this point. "I don't know... That seems sort of flimsy, but... It's not like I have any better ideas. Well, if the killer used the monster to get rid of Rinea's body, how would it have done that?"
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Raul, who had been distracting himself from the difficult case by slowly eating his steak, set it aside upon hearing Keri's accusation. He started talking while still chewing part of his food. "That is actually a pretty good reason for why the killer would want to get rid of Florian's body. However..."

He coughed, apparently almost choking on his food. "...if I wanted to hide the fact that a knife was used to kill Florian, while would I bring attention to it? Irene can confirm I was the only one who got a good look at the body, and the one who said the cause of death was probably stabbing rather than the wood chipper."
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"At the time I doubt you'd have been thinking that no-one would come investigate after the announcement... B-but really, I don't want it to be you anyway."
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"Fuck this we're gonna lose!" Jack's teeth chattered. "Keri, use a climax reasoning and save us!"
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"Could we uh, get some consent to this?"

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"Well, Keri, are you up for it?" Bryan inquired, looking towards her. "We don't have many other options at this point..."
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"Fuck this we're gonna lose!" Jack's teeth chattered. "Keri, use a climax reasoning and save us!"


"Um, alright, s-sure..." Keri agreed nervously. "We need to do something at this point."
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Urumi's head snapped around at Jack's outburst. "Um... H-hey, don't make that decision for all of us! But..." She swallowed the lump in her throat and sighed. "I-I guess if we're this stuck, we don't have much choice. Keri... seems to have the best handle on what actually happened in this case, so I'm okay with her using the lifeline."

She gave her roommate what she hoped was a reassuring look. "Just try to stay calm, alright?"
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Keri nodded. "Calm, right... This is fine, I just need to repeat everything we've covered until now."
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"So very sudden..." Oscar blinks in surprise. "Still, this could help us a good deal if we went wrong somewhere along the way. As long as you're up for it... well, make us proud, madame."
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"Alright! Go! Go! Climax Reasoning Start!"
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"Oh, poppycock!" Otto shouts, seeming to wake up from a nap. "Uhhh... Climax Reasoning, Keri, GO!"
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"Um! Right... okay... so... something like this?"

1. Florian knocks into James and takes his camera
2. Florian leaves the group, Bryan follows
3. Florian knocks Bryan out and records this
4. Florian heads to the cabins
5. Florian is with others until he goes with me into the forest
6. Florian steals my talent
7. Florian returns to the girls' cabin
8. Florian hides in the trunk with the aid of my talent, waiting for Irene and Rinea to arrive
9. Florian knocks Irene and Rinea out
10. Florian takes Rinea to the showers
11. Florian kills Rinea with her scalpel
12. Someone else kills Florian with a knife
13. This killer takes Florian's body to the shed
14. The killer puts the corpse through the wood chipper, using a shower curtain to avoid getting blood on them
15. Meanwhile the monster arrives at the showers and... drags Rinea off to eat her
16. The killer returns to the showers to find Rinea gone, and leaves the curtain there
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Otto waits calmly as Keri explains herself, trying and failing to drink his beer bottle through his eye.

"1. Florian knocks into James and takes his camera
2. Florian leaves the group, Bryan follows
3. Florian knocks Bryan out and records this
4. Florian heads to the cabins
5. Florian is with others until he goes with me into the forest
6. Florian steals my talent
7. Florian returns to the girls' cabin
8. Florian hides in the trunk with the aid of my talent, waiting for Irene and Rinea to arrive"

"Excellent work so far," Otto says cheerfully.

"9. Florian knocks Irene and Rinea out"

"Huh?" Otto says, "Where'd you get that idea? That's totally bogus!" (1 Wrong)

"10. Florian takes Rinea to the showers"

"Wh-What?" Otto continues, "For Pete's sake, that never happened!" (2 Wrong)

"11. Florian kills Rinea with her scalpel"

Otto slams his bottle onto the podium in front of him, sending glass and beer flying upward in a fountain. "What the hell are you trying to pull here? No way! No goddamn way!" (3 Wrong)

(9, 10, and 11 wrong)
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"Nice work, Keri!" Bryan chirps while smiling at her. He then quickly goes back to a serious expression. "So anyway, Florian took James's camera, knocked me out, stole Keri's talent, and waited for those two to arrive. But... who could've knocked Irene and Rinea out? And why was he waiting there for them. And..." All of a sudden, a realization hits him. "... Raul said he was killed in a knife fight, right? Irene had a knife on her... and... the cuts on Rinea..." He glanced over at the queen as he said this.
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"Ok. Think simple and quick. Her Majesty said she was knocked out by a cold metal object. If a knife qualifies, that opens up Raul and Oscar as suspects. If it's a gun, then it's Tachi-kun. I don't see what weapon James could've used and we already know his camera is out of the question. Any other ideas?"
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"W-what the hell?" Urumi sputtered. "So Florian was hiding in the trunk, but he's NOT the one who knocked Irene and Rinea out? Who else could it have been, then?"
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"Ok. Think simple and quick. Her Majesty said she was knocked out by a cold metal object. If a knife qualifies, that opens up Raul and Oscar as suspects. If it's a gun, then it's Tachi-kun. I don't see what weapon James could've used and we already know his camera is out of the question. Any other ideas?"


"But it's impossible for anyone to enter the cabin," Keri pointed out. "The door was locked, and they'd notice people entering or hiding in some other place. Rinea can't have done it, the lifeline confirmed that whatever knocked Irene out also knocked Rinea out. Um... would that leave Irene as the one knocking Rinea out?"
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"I-if Bryan and Irene were hit over the head, they'd have a lump or something there, right?"
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((Twenty minutes left due to my tomfoolery. You may not be able to solve the whole case, but you can identify the killer.))
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"We are running out of time," Koichi panted. "Does a knife hilt truly qualify in this case?"
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(GM confirmed Bryan and Irene both had lumps on their heads)
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"Florian did not knock both Rinea and Irene out. There are multiple options for how it really happened, therefore," Keri began.

"There was a fourth person in there. I think this is impossible. The door was locked, and Irene would have noticed them. Even if James tried to hide covered in paint, he would have been heard."

"Rinea knocked Irene out, and then Florian knocked Rinea out. This also seems impossible, as Irene's lifeline told us that the same weapon knocked both of them out. Florian had no need to use whatever Rinea might use, as he could just use his mechanical hand."

"Lastly, Irene knocked Rinea out and then Florian knocked her out. This would, quite simply, imply Irene was lying."

"But if Irene was lying, the whole lifeline could be a lie, at which point none of the options really matter. There were three people in that cabin, and now two are dead. Irene is the only one left alive, and the only viable option I can come up with is that she had been lying this whole time. Therefore... I think she is the killer."
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Suddenly, an alarm siren blares.

"Yeah cool, simmer down over there, Ms. I-Flunked-The-Climax-Reasoning," Otto shouts, "Trial's over, y'all. Get to voting. If I hear a single peep from you guys, everyone dies."
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"A m-majority has been reached!" calls out Kyle in his scratchy voice.

"Please think positive thoughts while the votes are being tallied a second time..."
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Urumi didn't say a word. She had her arms crossed firmly, but judging by the way she was biting her lip, it was probably to keep herself from shaking.
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Bryan's fists clenched up tightly, him biting his bottom lip in a similar manner as Urumi.
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