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"... I still think aunt Wyn is the culprit." Lucine elucidated. "But if she says she can prove her innocence, we should allow her. That aside, I do not believe father is really so suspicious either."

"... I think we should kill Mickey, or at least make him stay outside in the rain as punishment. He has been disrupting discussion all day long. I vote for Mickey."
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"Putting it this way..." He says as he begins to scribble four boxes on the sheet. "Of course, there's much more to it than this, but let's say our only options are to lynch Master Bertram or Madame Wyn. This leaves us with four outcomes."

"If we lynch Madame Wyn, and she's a 'witch', then that is a victory for us. However, if we lynch her and she is innocent, then we lose any utility she might have. If we lynch Master Bertram and he is a 'witch', then like previously, that is a victory for us. However, if we lynched him, and he is innocent... the hit to our fighting force is far smaller than the hit losing Wyn's abilities would be."

"Despite all of that, currently I'm electing not to lynch anyone. However I would say I am compelled to vote for Master Bertram, but I am... conflicted. Like Master Bertram said himself, there are many others who could be guilty. It might be best to investigate everyone else's actions last night."


"Sound logic," Bertram said wearily, taking a much deeper sip of liquor now. "By the very same logic, lynching me is equivalent to lynching anyone else other than Wyn... is what I'd like to say. But I've played my hand, you all know my 'role' as it were. I'm likely of far less use now than anyone else. No-one would visit a man who can catch them, and these so-called 'witches' would probably just ignore me from now on. I don't especially like the idea of shooting someone who might be a detective of some kind, nor do I especially want to shoot someone who might be innocent and still have a role to play in preventing further tragedy. This is... the only logical conclusion I can draw.

"My only other option is to find someone suspicious enough that I can feel comfortable accusing them of villainy. Unfortunately no-one seems to have any more information to share, it sounds like."
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"This some sad shit, old man. I knew you were weak, but I didn't think you'd fold like this. Still, I know voting for you is better than voting for nobody." He began to cry. But they weren't tears for Bertram, they were tears for himself. "Shit! I ain't never gonna be complete!"

He placed his vote in a silent prayer.
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"If the choice is between me dying, and you going after Jackie or Lucine, then I accept my fate. I believe someone must be sent to the Golden Land today, and if it is to be me, so be it. Please keep in mind everything I've said until now, however. If Wyn is unable to satisfactorily prove her claims - and remember, she could well use an accomplice to make up any old story - then I believe that cements her guilt. I can be satisfied dying if it's in the knowledge that justice will be served eventually."
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Twilip, who had been silent almost the entire time. "You'll have to excuse me for being in no spirits to march any member of my family off to their certain demise with what little we currently have to go by. I do not share the passion for fratricide that at least one of my brothers seems to swear by." She glares at Zachary for a brief moment before turning away from the group. "I-I abstain..."
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"I-I stand by what I said earlier." Allister said. "I don't believe Sir Bertram or Lady Wyn are guilty..."

"I don't think Sir Bertram's 'night immunity' is enough evidence to lynch him. And if Lady Wyn is telling the truth, her power will be necessary for us to find all of the witches. If any more evidence were to come up, I would change my vote, but for now I must abstain.
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Twilip, who had been silent almost the entire time. "You'll have to excuse me for being in no spirits to march any member of my family off to their certain demise with what little we currently have to go by. I do not share the passion for fratricide that at least one of my brothers seems to swear by." She glares at Zachary for a brief moment before turning away from the group. "I-I abstain..."

"And you'll have to excuse me for not wanting to sit idly by with my thumb up my ass while more of my family gets murdered and turned into creepy showpieces!" Zachary retorted. Hoo boy, did she open the flood gates. "Do you think I want this? Do you think I like the idea of sending my big brother to his death? Do you think I'd resort to voicing my opinions and casting a vote using what information I have if I thought there was any other way to go about this!? Fuck off with your white-knight prattling about how it's not right to kill. Those cowards took away your sister-in-law! Took away your niece! Took away your mother, for goodness' sake! If you have any better ideas than striking back at the ones who dealt the first blow, then I'd love to hear it, 'cause I sure haven't heard much else come out of your indecisive mouth, Twilip."
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"And you'll have to excuse me for not wanting to sit idly by with my thumb up my ass while more of my family gets murdered and turned into creepy showpieces!" Zachary retorted. Hoo boy, did she open the flood gates. "Do you think I want this? Do you think I like the idea of sending my big brother to his death? Do you think I'd resort to voicing my opinions and casting a vote using what information I have if I thought there was any other way to go about this!? Fuck off with your white-knight prattling about how it's not right to kill. Those cowards took away your sister-in-law! Took away your niece! Took away your mother, for goodness' sake! If you have any better ideas than striking back at the ones who dealt the first blow, then I'd love to hear it, 'cause I sure haven't heard much else come out of your indecisive mouth, Twilip."

Zachary's words clearly cut deep into Twilip as she simply stood there struggling to keep her composure. Her breathing becomes increasingly heavy as Zachary goes on and by the end of it she is gritting her teeth. She whirls around, hand and finger raised shouting, "Maybe I'd ra-!" but does not continue as her eyes lock with a side of her brother she thought not possible. Twilip is completely still for a moment before looking away. "I do not." she mutters, her breathing still heavy.
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Zachary approached Twilip cautiously. "Look. I'm-I'm sorry for the way I just acted. I'm not angry at you. In fact, I think I made it clear who I'm truly angry at. You just happened to be the one I took it out on, and that's not right. I . . . I really, really don't want to have to do this. I already lost Robin. I don't want to lose any more of my family, but I-based on what's happened, I can no longer be sure who even is 'family' anymore. I want to go back. Back to relatively-pleasant dinner with the family. Back to talking with everyone. Back to having Robin next to me. I felt safe and secure in that time. But we can't go back. That time has passed. All we can do now is move forward. I . . . am not changing my mind about voting for someone, because letting this continue means we accept it, and I certainly do not, because while I don't want anyone else to die, there are clearly people among us who do. I'm not going down without a fight, and I hope nobody else here will either."
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Jacqueline had been silent as everyone discussed and spoke of what they knew and who they thought did it. She didn't know how to comprehend everything. All of the words being said floated around her head like an erupting storm. So much talking . . . she couldn't handle being in this room. She really couldn't handle it. She gently began to massage the sides of her head again, closing her eyes as she contemplated. Everyone voting Bertram . . . it made her feel so unbelievably sick. What if he dies? What if they kill him? She knew he didn't do it! She knew it! He wouldn't!! . . Right? She lowered her head as she bit her lip, hoping for this all to be a nightmare.
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Zachary approached Twilip cautiously. "Look. I'm-I'm sorry for the way I just acted. I'm not angry at you. In fact, I think I made it clear who I'm truly angry at. You just happened to be the one I took it out on, and that's not right. I . . . I really, really don't want to have to do this. I already lost Robin. I don't want to lose any more of my family, but I-based on what's happened, I can no longer be sure who even is 'family' anymore. I want to go back. Back to relatively-pleasant dinner with the family. Back to talking with everyone. Back to having Robin next to me. I felt safe and secure in that time. But we can't go back. That time has passed. All we can do now is move forward. I . . . am not changing my mind about voting for someone, because letting this continue means we accept it, and I certainly do not, because while I don't want anyone else to die, there are clearly people among us who do. I'm not going down without a fight, and I hope nobody else here will either."

Twilip does not react to Zach's approach. "No, I should've just said my stance and called it at that... I just want you to be wrong about Bertram."
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"...Well, we have ourselves a tricky situation here, don't we?" Maurice sighed. "So it's either Basil's wife or my own brother here... Sadly, I'm forced to concede that if one of them is telling the truth, then not lynching Wyn would be more beneficial than not lynching Bertram. And if Wyn turns out to be a witch, it will be much easier to verify afterwards. Plus... this "night immunity" thing is rather worrying to me. What type of normal person would harness such power? No... there's definitely something off here. I... it pains me to do this, but I believe it is more beneficial to vote than to abstain here, so... I shall be placing a vote for Bertram, for the time being."
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"So it's either Basil's wife or my own brother here... Sadly, I'm forced to concede that if one of them is telling the truth


"I already went over this," Bertram snapped. "It's entirely possible we're both telling the truth about what we're capable of, and have simply reached the wrong conclusion about the other. One of us telling the truth does not absolutely mean the other is lying. By all means, vote for me if you must, but only for the right reasons.

"One last thing though Wyn, this is important. What, exactly, are you saying my... for lack of a better word, 'ability' is? What does it entail?"
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“... Hmm. Perhaps Uncle Bertie is right. Maybe they’re both telling the truth. Or he’s lying, or maybe even she’s lying. A perplexing situation indeed...” Asher mused aloud. “I think... for now, I’ll abstain. Give me as much shit as you want, but I don’t want to kill anyone based on the information—or lack thereof—that we have. ... But, if I must vote, my vote will be for Uncle Bertram. However, I’m only going to vote as a last resort, and if majority of us are in agreement.”
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"I would like to clarify that I found out that Bertram cannot be killed at night by magic or witchcraft." Wyn adds. "To me this seems like it's because he himself is one of them."
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"Thank you. This is actually very important. You see, one thing we've all overlooked is that witches can kill fellow witches. They'd have to, else it would be abundantly clear to us if this went on too long who the 'witches' are," Bertram explained. "With that being said, my 'ability' makes no sense for a witch to have. A witch immune to being killed by their fellow would be a counterproductive ability, while a mortal having said ability could only be a boon.

"Let's look at this another way. Wyn and I can both confirm I am immune to 'witchcraft'. Wyn and Zach can both confirm that I saw the people who visited me last night. All of this validates the 'ability' I claim to have. Do you really think that I'd be a 'witch' on top of all that?"
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"Killing themselves would put them at a massive disadvantage! Even if it's to throw off the scent! What would stop a spiteful witch marked for death from ratting out her conspirators?" Basil said a frown etched into his face. "Plus it's not immunity from witchcraft, it's NIGHT TIME immunity. You already had a gun in your study. What if someone else were to use it to try and kill a witch themselves? Presumably this wouldn't work then either."
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"Let's say, for the sake of argument, that the witches can kill 4, 3, 2 and then 1 person in a night," Bertram said, pushing the meta barrier so hard now that it was practically breaking already. "If they couldn't target their own kind, it would be abundantly obvious who the witches are and who the innocents are after just one round of this. If we're really pushing the thought experiment, imagine if you will that these tragic events repeat themselves, with witches killing 4, 3, 2, 1 people again, and then again. If they can't target their own kind, it would be trivial to pinpoint the identity of the witches after all this.

"As for my 'immunity', even Wyn herself has just confirmed that I have immunity to 'magic and witchcraft'. My gun example was just that, an example. My point is that if there are 'witches', then there are 'non-witches' too, and I'm not 'immune' to 'non-witches'."
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"So...what shall we do then? If what both of us are saying is true, then it would be unwise to put either of us on the gallows. It might be best to call it a day, then." Wyn notes.
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"I'm highly opposed to just doing nothing and letting the murderers run free, but we've reached a point where I think we have no further information to go on," Bertram said, quite tired from all the arguing. "If a majority thinks Wyn and I are innocent, then any person we vote for instead will just be a random choice. I can't imagine that being a good idea."
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"That's true, Bertram." Wyn replies. "With that being said, I retract my vote from you and choose instead to abstain."
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‘Mickey’ blinked at his father. “That’s one helluva hypothetical. 3 people are gonna die next? And this is gonna happen again? You must’ve gone through Billy’s stash—shit, it was probably spiked too. And you’re the one always telling me to get in touch with reality.”

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Basil gave Wyn a pained look and sighed “Well I’m at a loss now, the things Bertram says make no sense but I’ll stand by you Wynnie-poo. Don’t need a reason not to kill my brother.”

I retract my vote as well.

“But can we really afford to just stand around here and wait? Surely we need to do something?”
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Vincent was quiet for a moment as he ponder over what everyone have said.

"I guess both Bertie and Wyn made some arguments and all... But I think that Bertie got a point there. We don't have enough information to reach a conclusion. So, I believe them both to be telling the truth." Vincent simply said. "I'll retract my vote."
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Basil gave Wyn a pained look and sighed “Well I’m at a loss now, the things Bertram says make no sense but I’ll stand by you Wynnie-poo. Don’t need a reason not to kill my brother.”


"But why do my words make no sense? Our discussions will go nowhere if we throw about vague ideas like that," Bertram insisted. "If you still have doubts, perhaps we can resolve them, and get closer to learning what's really going on."
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James decided to retract his vote, "I still think Bertie's quite suspicious but there's also a lot pointing towards him being innocent. So for now I retract my vote."
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"We won't get anywhere unless we vote for someone. Let's try Mickey's test again. Gun to your head, who would you vote for if you absolutely had to?" Bertram asked.
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Basil raised an eyebrow and crossed his arms “You we’re ranting on about repeating cycles and whatnot? What else do you expect me to think of you?”

“Also I don’t think you want me to vote with my gut feeling because I’m still not certain about you after all this Bertram.”
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"I still think aunt Wyn is too suspicious. After all, the only thing she 'investigated' is that you cannot be killed by witches, something she could have discovered in a different way." Lucine said. "... But we agreed not to vote for her, and so..."
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"...Probably someone only loosely related to the family", Maurice decided. "A distant relative or a servant, if it isn't either Bertram or Wyn. Probably James. That being said, I'd have no evidence behind it, so I'm unsure how wise an idea that would actually be... I believe Bertram and Wyn's roles are probably correct, but I do still find the power Bertram wields quite mysterious. That said, given what we have at hand roght now, it would be easy enough to look into if we give it some time."
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"At the very least we know for certain two adults lifted that cage, so Lucine and Allister are ruled out. If we can rule out Basil and Wyn because Violet was one of the victims, and rule out Zachary for a similar reason... perhaps it's best to turn the spotlight on our cousins? James, you've said your piece, so Vincent, why should we trust you?" Bertram said, agreeing with Maurice.

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“If we want to just kill anyone, then the boy butler. Or Cuz’n Vince.” The estranged son decided as if he’d been thinking it over. “If we want to kill someone based on any ol thang, I got bad vibes about Uncle Basil. Earlier he seemed pretty in the know that witches couldn’t kill five people. It’s strange as hell, I can feel it from my toes to my knees.”
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Basil rolled his eyes uninterested in Mickey's accusations.

"I also question some of Zach's deductions." He gives Zach a sympathetic look "Not that I suspect you but more I think the suspects are possible of more." He raised a hand to his chin in thought "If we do want to trust in something like magic circles or whatever then I don't think the part about two adults needing to lift a cage necessarily adds up either. Surely magic could accomplish such a minor feat."
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"If that's a problem we can go investigate the cellar ourselves, right now," Bertram said, putting down his glass. "There won't be any issues with Zachary's claims then, right?"
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"N-Nighttime immunity to all attacks would be a solid witch tell . . . " Zachary pondered, having calmed down from his earlier spat, "But immunity only to magical attacks would be useful for us. I just wish it didn't have to come out so early. If the murderer - or murderers - kill using magic - which I still find hard to believe, but here we are - then not only would they have wasted a shot on Bertram, but then the one that tried to kill him would've been found out. That's really powerful, and now because we got over-emotional . . . its effectiveness is basically gone. But hey, if you're on our side, at least you'll live through this."

How oddly cold and calculating. It's almost as if it's difficult to stay in-character when discussing which of your family members to murder in retaliation for four of them dying at once. But I digress.

"As for the conclusions I came to in the cellar, please do remember I investigated before I thought magic was even possible. N-Now that it's come into the equation, I suppose someone could've just lifted the cage, or teleported the bodies, with a s-spell, or an enchantment, or whatever.

"Regardless, everyone's backing off, so I suppose I will as well. I retract my vote."
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"If the murderer - or murderers - kill using magic - which I still find hard to believe, but here we are - then not only would they have wasted a shot on Bertram, but then the one that tried to kill him would've been found out."


"This is precisely why I felt Wyn might be one of them. Her actions could be explained by wanting to investigate me, or they could just as easily be exactly what you just described. It's why I still need proof from her that her claims are true. That can come later, however," Bertram said. "For now I'm afraid we are running out of time. We seem no closer to agreeing upon a likely suspect..."
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“Uncle Basil can only pretend he doesn’t hear me. But the words of truth are perceptible to all, it’s only the young and the damned who choose to ignore them.” ‘Mickey’ monologued, whether anyone was listening or not. “Even now he seems happy to waste our time on meaningless questions to run out the clock.”
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“Uncle Basil can only pretend he doesn’t hear me. But the words of truth are perceptible to all, it’s only the young and the damned who choose to ignore them.” ‘Mickey’ monologued, whether anyone was listening or not. “Even now he seems happy to waste our time on meaningless questions to run out the clock.”


"Meaningless? Zach himself acknowledged that part of the investigation didn't account for 'magic'!" He said getting frustrated again before looking at Wyn and Asher and calming down.

"Also investigating the cellar again I think would be fruitless. I'm a businessman not a magician, I don't know anything of 'magic' so wouldn't be able to do a more detailed investigation than Zach."

It was growing dark outside.

"As it is I've got no idea who to vote for. There's nothing making sense just now." He sighed.
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"The only flaw in your logic, Bertram, is admittedly a shaky one," Zachary replied, scratching his chin, "But if these 'Witches' can kill four people with magic, then why would they have an independent killer who can go after a fifth person? Granted, it's possible Wyn killed the rest of them, but just couldn't touch you. It's also possible, like others have said, that you both are innocent and we're all just barking up the wrong tree . . . except for our culprit, who must be sitting here inwardly laughing to themselves watching us bicker towards nowhere."

Zachary sighed, wondering what they could even do now. "Um, I know now's not the best time, but I've had this nagging at me for a while now: while we were all searching for information, did anyone happen to look for, or even find, Mama's will? I know it's a huge stretch, but there may be a clue for how we all ended up in this mess."
Thank you for reading. I hope you have a wonderful day.
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