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The miracle never happen...? (2-4)Topic%20Title
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Sorry if this has been asked already. The last thread I found on it was old.

Spoiler: Just to be safe.
Does anyone know how to get the other 'bad ending' - not the one where Matt is found not guilty and Adrian gets convicted instead, but the one where Matt is found guilty and Maya is assassinated?

I remember getting it on my first playthrough but now I can't seem to find it anymore. If I randomly lose in a testimony somewhere I just get the standard game over. Is it there somewhere or am I remembering wrongly and there is only one bad ending? :sadshoe:


Thanks if anyone can help...

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Spoiler: justice for all-last case spoiler
i think he show the video tape thing to a different person than shelly de killer im not quite sure :yuusaku:

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moon_pie! wrote:
Spoiler: justice for all-last case spoiler
i think he show the video tape thing to a different person than shelly de killer im not quite sure :yuusaku:


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Mmmn...I did try that but it gets you the 'not guilty' version since at that point they still believe Adrian is the client. Nnngh, I'm so confused, I'm sure I found it before, but... :sadshoe:
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If that's what happened, you did it correctly.
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Please actually pay attention to the result and the story. Not Guilty = Bad
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Spoiler:
It's if, earlier in the game, you get guilty like you normally would
, because
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Getting Guilty at the end is the good ending, though you probably already knew that.

I think, anyway.
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Its easy.
You just dont defend Matt, instead grab a beer and watch the game.
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DramaticaXIV2 wrote:
Please actually pay attention to the result and the story. Not Guilty = Bad


Come on, I'm not stupid. Did you read the post? I suppose I should have phrased it better: I know there is a 'not guilty' bad ending, but I'm referring to the other bad ending - where Maya is assassinated.

Pearl the Barrister wrote:
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It's if, earlier in the game, you get guilty like you normally would
, because
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Getting Guilty at the end is the good ending, though you probably already knew that.

I think, anyway.


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Maybe...I've only really been looking in the last part of the trial because the 'guilty' one also has the "miracle never happen" in it and I think Phoenix doesn't mention the "miracle" until after the first part of the trial. Maybe I should start again...
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You've got to

Spoiler: 2-4 Ending.
You have to talk to Shelley de Killer again but instead of presenting the video, you present something else entirely.

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You've got to

Spoiler: 2-4 Ending.
You have to talk to Shelley de Killer again but instead of presenting the video, you present something else entirely.


Spoiler: See: Title
You can present anything to anyone (except Tape to de Killer, obviously). So you could present the wine glass to Oldbag and you would still get the bad ending.

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Am I the only one confused here? Because I don't remember a:

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Ending in which Matt is Guilty and Maya dies. I thought he was either Not Guilty and Phoenix ends up horrified that he put an innocent person in jail(or maybe even in death row) or the good ending, where he gets De Killer to release Maya and gets Enguarde a Guilty verdict.

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Waiting For Godot wrote:
Am I the only one confused here? Because I don't remember a:

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Ending in which Matt is Guilty and Maya dies. I thought he was either Not Guilty and Phoenix ends up horrified that he put an innocent person in jail(or maybe even in death row) or the good ending, where he gets De Killer to release Maya and gets Enguarde a Guilty verdict.


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This is exactly why I'm asking. Obviously it wouldn't be one of the alternatives you can get right at the end of the trial (which is what everyone else has been referring to), because it would have to be at a point where de Killer is still working for Matt AND where Matt is still thought to be guilty.

I'm certain I saw it the first time through (it was the first time I ever saw the miracle never happening). Seems like no-one else has heard of it though, so I guess I'll have to keep looking myself.
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Well in the bad ending, Phoenix DID say he never saw Maya again.. maybe that's what you remembered and just assumed she died?
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Aevitas wrote:
Well in the bad ending, Phoenix DID say he never saw Maya again.. maybe that's what you remembered and just assumed she died?

Wow, I never knew that, thats dark.
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Yea I know.. bad ending was really depressing for me. I was like:

"Oh, I just finished the game with the good ending, let's see what the bad ending is like! Teehee.
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Ok now I feel like crap." :sadshoe:
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When he says "I never saw Maya again", it's because he's too ashamed to ever see her. He went against her wish to get Engarde a guilty verdict, no matter what. As a result, he leaves Wright and Co. and travels the Country, becoming...


...a...

...a hobo...

HOLY SHIT, HE REALLY DID LOSE THAT CASE!!!!
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Aevitas wrote:
Well in the bad ending, Phoenix DID say he never saw Maya again.. maybe that's what you remembered and just assumed she died?


:larry: Possibly... I do remember something else though. In the bad ending it says, "De Killer is a man of his word, so I'm sure he released her as promised", yeah? I remember this other one said "so I'm sure he did as he said". Sigh...I really hope I wasn't imagining it, because it's driving me crazy now. :kikzou:
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Just to confirm, yes, he said "De Killer is a man of his word, so I'm sure he released her as promised".

But no, it cannot be canon.
He said he never went to court again, so 4-4 flashback couldn't happen.
Also AJ refers to Maya.
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Well, it is (was?) basically just another version of the bad ending, so no of course it's not canon.
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I don't think there is such an ending.
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Szabu wrote:
Just to confirm, yes, he said "De Killer is a man of his word, so I'm sure he released her as promised".

But no, it cannot be canon.
He said he never went to court again, so 4-4 flashback couldn't happen.
Also AJ refers to Maya.


It's not canon he ever 'sees' Maya again. AA4 only proves they're in close communication. ;_;

As for 'never set foot in a court again', maybe it's 6 years later?

But no, I don't think there's any reason to support game 4 as any 'official' after bad ending of 2-4.
Though you can't shoot it down as impossible..
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So did the entire third game just vanish all of a sudden?
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As far as I know, there is no "special" ending in which Maya is killed.
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Katana wrote:
When he says "I never saw Maya again", it's because he's too ashamed to ever see her. He went against her wish to get Engarde a guilty verdict, no matter what. As a result, he leaves Wright and Co. and travels the Country, becoming...


...a...

...a hobo...

HOLY COW, HE REALLY DID LOSE THAT CASE!!!!


I BELIEVE THAT THEORY TOO! But when I tried it out on the Alternate Timeline thread, no one believed me...XD
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Spoiler: may be a little off topic so...
wait is the not guilty verdict not the real ending?

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Spoiler:
Technically, the Guilty verdict is the "Canon" Ending.

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Katana wrote:
When he says "I never saw Maya again", it's because he's too ashamed to ever see her. He went against her wish to get Engarde a guilty verdict, no matter what. As a result, he leaves Wright and Co. and travels the Country, becoming...


...a...

...a hobo...

HOLY COW, HE REALLY DID LOSE THAT CASE!!!!


I BELIEVE THAT THEORY TOO! But when I tried it out on the Alternate Timeline thread, no one believed me...XD

Meh, just play the game (AJ:AA) and you'll see why no one believed you.
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1. There is no such ending where Maya dies. I just checked to see if by chance, losing normally (i.e. by penalties) sparked different dialogue with a Maya death, but nope. Just the usual Judge finding the defendant guilty and court doors slamming.

2. If you play AJ it becomes 100% clear that it doesn't follow from 2-4's bad ending.

Spoiler: 4-4
Phoenix is in court.


That should clear things up here, I hope.
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Bad Ending:
Matt Engarde is found innocent.
Adrian Andrews is found guilty.
Phoenix never goes back to court or sees Maya or Pearl again, but De Killer is a man of his word, so he probably released Maya.

Good Ending:
When Phoenix presents the video and tells De Killer about Engarde's sneaky plan, he breaks his contract and releases Maya, meaning that Phoenix can lose the case without Maya being killed. He does just that. For the first time ever, he loses a case but feels good about it as Engarde deserves it. Phoenix does go to court again, not just in 4-4 but in the whole of T&T which for some reason, a lot of people on this thread seem to not mention. It's after T&T that he loses his badge, and doesn't become a hobo, just starts dressing casually, has hair thats flat enough to fit under a hat, becomes very laid back, starts drinking a lot of Grape Juice, takes up poker, and adopts Trucy. But remember, this is after 4-4 and THE WHOLE OF T&T! Basically, this ending where you lose the case is the canonical one.
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