Re: Case 2-4: what was it like for you?
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Let me share something with you all.
This case genuinely frightened me. And not in a "GUILTY!? NOOOOOO!" thing like 1-4 (Though I was literally shaking when Larry ran in to save me...). I was terrified of and for the characters and even myself.
The first time I played it, my dad was watching, and I was breaking Matt's Psyche-Lock. He commented on the music changing, and I agreed it was suspenseful. (After all it was the Suspense theme.)
Then Matt consulted himself, the chains flew away, and a sheet of glass was standing between me, Pearl, and a sociopath. It only got worse from there.
Calling me up in the lobby and taunting me about the verdict...I remember when Gumshoe said we had to prolong the trial, I was like "YES! YES! THERE'S HOPE! HOOOOOPE!" And I pledged that I'd do whatever I could to help everyone's fave detective ^^
Then his car crashed and I was like "..............It feels......like my soul is shattering before my eyes......"
The first time through I had no idea what or who Edgeworth was talking about, but this time I presented Franziska to him. The game even made the correct answer suspenseful, with Phoenix wondering if she'd even consider helping.
I literally screamed at the courtroom spectators who were giving Phoenix a hard time. I was like "Shut up! Shut UP! You don't UNDERSTAAAAND! DAD, they're acting like I'm defending a guilty person!"
He reminded me that I was.
I remember sweating out that final decision before Franziska bursts in, and I remember asking my dad to do it for me cause I couldn't live with myself no matter what I picked. Either way someone would die...
So we talked it out, considering the options and outcomes that weighed with my choices. He commented that it was a great game for making me think about my morals in this manner.
Eventually we decided together that Matt was guilty. We figured that, maybe, just maybe, they might be able to save Maya before de Killer heard the news. And we weren't about to let Matt get away. Not after everything we learned.
And then Franny burst in and handed over the evidence. ^_^
I figured since there was new evidence it must be between the last 3 pieces that the game wanted you to show. So I asked Dad what to do, though I knew the answer (I just wanted to see what he'd do :)), and he picked the videotape. So I clicked it too.
Urk! It's still not over! I need to give a reason for why he filmed it! The spoilers didn't say anything about this...!
Dad, with no hesitation: Blackmail. He did it to blackmail him.
Palms sweating, heart pounding, I clicked that final statement...
You cannot imagine the sigh of relief I breathed as everything played out. That case was an emotional wringer for me, and remains in my top 4. 1-4, 1-5 and 3-5 are bouncing around the top 4 too, and the number 1 spot changes every day.
But today, it's 2-4.
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If you listen well enough, it sounds close enough to De Killer's theme.
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But yes, I loved it, 2-4 is definitely one of my faves.
Quote:
We can't forget one of Wrights most emotional moments either.
Spoiler: 2-4
Complete. Mental. Breakdown.That has to be my favorite Phoenix pose.
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de Killer: Mr. Wright, I understand you have something to show me?
Phoenix: Indeed I do. You recognize this tape, correct?
de Killer: No I don't.
Phoenix: ...What??
de Killer: I'm on a radio, you idiot. I can't see anything over there.
Phoenix: ....Oh. Right.
de Killer: Is that everything?
Phoenix: ..........Yeah. Pretty much.
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Quote:
We can't forget one of Wrights most emotional moments either.
Spoiler: 2-4
That has to be my favorite Phoenix pose.[/quote]
Agreed, it would be lame if they overused it, but they've only used it twice, both involved a certain little spirit medium too... hmmmmmmmm...
Anyway, the first time though I picked the wrong thing once on what Edgeworth asked could do it, but being I wanted the good ending, I reset to my save point and thought harder about it, and then it made sense.
At the end, I knew the right answer, but I also wanted to see the bad ending, I kinda liked it too, it was sad and well done overall, very emotional.
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...It was awesome to have her back though!
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Spoiler: I guess
Spoiler: For anyone who hasn't played T&T
-This deck of cards is a little frayed around the edges, but then again so am I and I've got fewer suits...
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Because "OBJECTION" was taken.
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I will be honest, though...
Spoiler:
But!
Spoiler:
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Anyway, it was epic because of the internal struggle it causes. Well, I make no secret that I liked Maya much more than *the AJ helper* (spoiler avoidance). So, since I played this one directly after AJ, it was great to be able to have Maya helping again. Then when she got kidnapped, I felt the same way as Phoenix. Right out of the gate, I was ready to pick "Not Guilty" in every decision.
And then it all comes to a head, when you see Matt's house, and his butler is Shelly de Killer. I examined that door at least ten times before I left. (Come on, man! Open it!)
And then you break Matt's psycholock, and he confesses to being the client. Go to the trial. Gumshoe's car crashes. I presented the tracker to Edgeworth, and we end up waiting for Franziska. I have to examine De Killer again. When he talks about me being a traitor, it was literally the most tense moment of the whole series for me.
The big decision. I picked "Not Guilty" again. Franziska's "Objection!" was amazing. I held off on moving through the statements just to listen to the theme song. Man, that's a great theme song. Anyway, when I get the final evidence, I disregard the bellboy's uniform out of hand. First, I try showing De Killer the spy camera. It's wrong, so I went through the alternate ending (:() start the decision over. I think about it this time. Down to two options. Show Matt the suicide note, or show De Killer the videotape. I get the feeling that Matt would know it was faked at this point. I decided to show De Killer the videotape. When I saw Edgeworth saying "Uh... um..." it was horrible. (Wait, I was wrong again?!) And then recovering from the brink! "I think there is some merit in showing this evidence to this person."
Final decision. I finally got to pick Guilty. That was probably the most satisfying moment of the series.
Yeah, I need to get a life.
"Lord what fools these mortals be."
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yoshi927 wrote:
I decided to show De Killer the videotape. When I saw Edgeworth saying "Uh... um..." it was horrible. (Wait, I was wrong again?!) And then recovering from the brink! "I think there is some merit in showing this evidence to this person."
I love it when it does that...fakes you out before showing that you're completely right. I plan on doing something like that in a game I'm making.
Defense: And here's my FINAL proof!
TAKE THAT! (presents a list of items; only one item has caught the court's interest during the case, but the answer is another item)
Witness: Hah? And what's this?
Prosecution: Mr. ____, we are asking for proof. I fail to even see what your theory is here...(long pause)....this (item #1) doesn't prove your theory at all!
Defense: ...I wasn't referring to that. Read the next item on the list.
Prosecution: The.......AAAAAAAHHHH!!!
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Katana wrote:
yoshi927 wrote:
I decided to show De Killer the videotape. When I saw Edgeworth saying "Uh... um..." it was horrible. (Wait, I was wrong again?!) And then recovering from the brink! "I think there is some merit in showing this evidence to this person."
I love it when it does that...fakes you out before showing that you're completely right. I plan on doing something like that in a game I'm making.
By friend actually got massively stuck on that portion for that very reason. He got it absolutely correct, but reset as soon as Udgey started stammering. He was on that bit for about two weeks before I told him (he hates people helping him, you see).
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that actually made me feel the moments of that case again!Spoiler: for precaution
I almost couldn't bring myself at the part we had to choose to plead guilty or not guilty... I was worriedI really winced and shuddered at the thought what would happen to Maya if I clicked plead guilty... THEN Franziska came. oh my gooood I was so relieved, that was probably the first time I'm so happy to see her, there's hope!! But then she showed the evidences, I couldn't make anything out of those and my hope fell apart at once TT_TT then I think de Killer said something about trust is everything and it came to me, ENGARDE BETRAYED YOOOU! see this tape! why didn't you watch the tape when you took it?! oh pleaaase let me tell him! Give me a chance to show the tape to him dammit! Then the judge asked the double question... I'm so happyyyyy 
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Spoiler:
So yes, I loved 2-4.
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- *crashes car*
- "Is there any way we can find out where Gumshoe is right now?":Me: - *talking to game* "Well, maybe... WAIT! OHMYGOD! FRANZISKA'S TRACKING DEVICE! She can help us!
...
...
...Wait, Franziska HELP US!?...Oh no, we're sooo screwed."
(And at the end, I screwed up and got the "bad ending". I have never cried so hard at a game before in my life.)
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phoenixwright7787 wrote:
it was ok....i didnt particularly like it, but i didnt hate it, either. the plot does thicken later on, though
I think you're the first person I've ever seen who doesn't like 2-4. Frankly, I'm shocked. It's where the good music comes in!
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...The mental challenges can't really be put into words.
Spoiler: What happened at the end
and 
I shrieked it with tears running down my face. My mom stared. And for both times, I chose "Guilty" because in the end, I kept thinking about what Maya wrote, and she would've wanted Nick to do that. It was kind of like fulfilling her *possible* last wishes. I couldn't look when I tapped the options. And then 
came in. I swear, CAPCOM wanted us to have cardiac arrest. And when the crowd was chanting guilty, I thought 'Be quiet! Your best friend and possibly more isn't on the border between life and death and you're not the one trying to tip the scales!' I have proof now. Everyone tortures lawyers. And if I could leap into the game, I would've be the crowd, stealing Franny's whip and shut them up. While crying. Only the best video games can make people cry. 
Since I have a "no walkthrough" rule, I had no idea what was coming. And now that I got the good ending, I don't want to go back to see what the bad ending is.
*sniff* I haven't played T&T yet, but no matter what, Farewell, My Turnabout shall forever more be my favorite and most heart wrenching cases.
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Sacrtria wrote:
I know a lot of people have complaints about the second game. But 2-4 practically blows all of those complaints into thin air.
...The mental challenges can't really be put into words.
Since I have a "no walkthrough" rule, I had no idea what was coming. And now that I got the good ending, I don't want to go back to see what the bad ending is.
*sniff* I haven't played T&T yet, but no matter what, Farewell, My Turnabout shall forever more be my favorite and most heart wrenching cases.
...The mental challenges can't really be put into words.
Spoiler: What happened at the end
Since I have a "no walkthrough" rule, I had no idea what was coming. And now that I got the good ending, I don't want to go back to see what the bad ending is.
*sniff* I haven't played T&T yet, but no matter what, Farewell, My Turnabout shall forever more be my favorite and most heart wrenching cases.
That will change once you play Bridge to the Turnabout (case 3-5). I'M TELLING YOU IT WILL!
Besides, Farewell, My Turnabout may have drama, but not as much as Bridge to the Turnabout. You WILL cry.
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I was not able to solve it so I cheated on the internet...I was sooo unhappy after I did that and I cried so many times and played that case over and over and over again...
But it was one of the most beautiful cases..(haven't played T&T yet, I live in good fuckin' Germany..)
I'm not using CR anymore.
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... I feel kinda bad for Phoenix at the end though. "YOUR TREAT, PHOENIX. =D"
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I liked the case-- well, certain parts. I cracked up when Shelly asked the Judge if he "would care to die."
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The characters were sort of bland, but really interesting, especially
Spoiler:
I already knew mostly what was going to happen, but it was just so freaking EPIC! Even more so than 1-5.
Plus, the whole thing was really moralistic, with all of the decisions "Someone's life will end whichever option I pick!" (I picked Guilty)
I was really mad when you examine the cat door at Engarde Mansion and Pearl tells you not to go in there. WTF?!?! I literally almost yelled that.
And of course,
.It was just really cool for me. It was the last case I played, too, so maybe that affected it.
Not counting AJ of course.
PEARL DIES TONIGHT
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Spoiler:
and he switched personalities I had shivers running down my spine. It probably had something to do with the music as well! I had to stop myself from yelling at my DS at various times as I played some of the game when my little cousins were over and I was afraid something inapropriate would come out of my mouth 
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It was interesting at first...right up until the mystery was solved. If it had ended just after Matt's confession, it still wouldn't be nearly my favourite, but it'd still be good.
But once the plot devolved into a series of 'We've found Maya! Wait, we lost her...buy more time!' I got tired of it very, very quickly.
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Anyway, onto the spoilers.
In the beginning of the case, Gumshoe says (paraphrasing), "It really looks like Engarde is guilty. All this evidence is piling up against him. It's almost as if it was set up!" Then what do you find out the next day? ZOMG it was set up!
And before that...
: Can I be your attorney?
: No. : Please? : No. : Please? : No. : Please? : No. : Please? : No. : De Killer.
: Sure!Gee. That isn't suspicious or anything. No siree.
The last one occurs later, in court. When you can give Adrian the guilty verdict, Phoenix thinks, "Hm... everything points to Adrian, but I don't think she's the killer 'cause she hasn't confessed. She must not be the killer!" So she isn't. And hm, I wonder who that leaves....
And then by the time everything has been explicitly laid out,
Spoiler:
is really not that exciting.
I also really did not understand this part:
: Don't get the police involved, or else.... : GUMSHOEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!Also, since all you did in the second day of court was stall, it was really really boring and dull. It was an obvious "Oh look, Gumshoe is just gonna get here and save the day" then an obvious "Oh look, Franziska is just gonna get here and save the day" and then a frustrating "I'm sick of stalling. When will they come? HURRYUPALREADY."
btw, I'm not saying the case is bad. It's just nowhere near the level of a game-ending case.
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Also, as for Phoenix getting Gumshoe's help: The point is that you know him personally, and can trust him to avoid letting word break out.
I also feel they could have had something stronger to make you think Adrian's innocent than just the look on her face. Heck, Acro cried, and he was guilty. Maybe some extra evidence that just "didn't seem to fit?"
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1. Take out that stupid Gumshoe line about something not being right with the evidence.
2. Don't make Matt's reason for hiring Phoenix so stupidly suspicious
3.
Spoiler: Day 2 Investigation
I think if they fixed those things, court phase 1 wouldn't be so bad, although some evidence that "didn't fit" would've been nice, too.
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Bad Player wrote:
And before that...
: Can I be your attorney?
: No.
: Please?
: No.
: Please?
: No.
: Please?
: No.
: Please?
: No.
: De Killer.
: Sure!
Gee. That isn't suspicious or anything. No siree.
: Can I be your attorney? : No. : Please? : No. : Please? : No. : Please? : No. : Please? : No. : De Killer. : Sure!Gee. That isn't suspicious or anything. No siree.
Actually, that wasn't suspicious for me because of the way Nick said it. de Killer isn't exactly a normal name, and might have confused it with "the killer" I though. Meh.
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DramaticaXIV2 wrote:
Bad Player wrote:
And before that...
: Can I be your attorney?
: No.
: Please?
: No.
: Please?
: No.
: Please?
: No.
: Please?
: No.
: De Killer.
: Sure!
Gee. That isn't suspicious or anything. No siree.
: Can I be your attorney? : No. : Please? : No. : Please? : No. : Please? : No. : Please? : No. : De Killer. : Sure!Gee. That isn't suspicious or anything. No siree.
Actually, that wasn't suspicious for me because of the way Nick said it. de Killer isn't exactly a normal name, and might have confused it with "the killer" I though. Meh.
And the fact that Matt is going along with the whims of "the killer" without any questions or anything isn't suspicious?
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