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I was spoiled :sadshoe:

Well, I spoiled myself actually...

"Hey, I haven't played T&T, yet, but I think searching for "godot ace attorney" on Google and clicking the link to it's AA wiki page is totally a good idea..."

Then I saw a picture with the text "Diego Armando 2012"

Ugh :sadshoe:
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I'm pretty sure I was all "FFFFFFFF!" when Diego first came on, then was really confused as to why he was a defense attorney and so different from the Godot he was in the present. Then it sort of pieced itself together from the first case, and his relationship with Mia, and it was a big "osnap" moment.
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My sister spoiled it for me :sadshoe:
I was on Recipe for Turnabout and she spoiled it. I was PISSED. Then I saw Diego. And was like "Badass Jr."
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*Von Karma snap*

"Hey, Jack! Look! It's Godot! In the past! Whoa-ho-ho-ho! So weird!"
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A lot of people have said 'I wish the game did it differently' in regards to making Diego less like Godot, as the minute you see him, the cat's pretty much out of the bag.

I disagree- I'm pretty sure Godot's identity isn't supposed to be a surprise reveal at the end. It's more of a Racer X moment- the minute we see Diego Armando, we're supposed to put two and two together and be "one step ahead" of Phoenix, since Godot's true identity becomes a valuable clue to put together the incredibly complex events of the final trial.
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darquegk wrote:
A lot of people have said 'I wish the game did it differently' in regards to making Diego less like Godot, as the minute you see him, the cat's pretty much out of the bag.

I disagree- I'm pretty sure Godot's identity isn't supposed to be a surprise reveal at the end. It's more of a Racer X moment- the minute we see Diego Armando, we're supposed to put two and two together and be "one step ahead" of Phoenix, since Godot's true identity becomes a valuable clue to put together the incredibly complex events of the final trial.


Completely Agree^^
I wouldn't want Diego or his alter ego to be completely different :javado:
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If I didn't spoil it, I would probably have thought they were brothers
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I knew this when he appeared. Honestly, It is such a big spoiler from CAPCOM to make Armando in the 4rth case.

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I remembered the name from the file in 3-1, so when I saw Diego, I realised he was Godot, but it didn't make sense that Diego was dead. With all that talk about Godot "coming out of hell to do battle with Trite" I figured that someone was channelling him, but I couldn't work out whom. In the end it didn't change much anyway, but it was still rather strange.
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Yeah, sadly my friend who was on the second game at the time went on the character page and ruined THE ENTIRE PLOT for me!!!! So no reaction there... I think it was revenge for when I spoiled the sixth Harry potter book for her. Heh heh heh....
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If I didn't spoil it, I would probably have thought they were brothers


Same here. I was disappointed because it was too easy... :sadshoe:
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Wow. Just wow. --
I was spoiled. And pissed off.

It was a video of youtube ((because I hadn't the game here)) when he came as Diego Armando, and I thought: Okay, okay. A really good-looking man.. ((Heh, sorry. But he is really hot, isn't he?))

.... Oh crap. My little cousin played T&T's and I looked to his DS.
Cousin: *played*
Me: *saw Godot* Ow, a brother of him?
Cousin: .. What are you talking about? Don't you ever played the game?
Me: No, why?
Cousin: Ah.. Shall I say you a thing? This man is Diego Armando or possibly Godot. But he was in an coma.
Me: *shot* WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT? :beef:
Cousin: Ow.. Are you okay?
Me: *cough* Uh.. uhm.. nothing..
Cousin: Oh, I understand! You think, Diego and Godot are brothers?
Me: :oops:
Cousin: HAHAHAHAHA! You are so funny!

... That wasn't funny. Thanks >.>
And I spoiled him the GK-game .. Harr..harr..harr.. :redd:

The beginning was quite fun, just with all the ups and downs
But suddenly, we’re tired, from a waste of meaningless emotions

시작은 뭐 즐거웠었네 오르락내리락 그 자체로 어느새 서로 지쳐버렸네 의미 없는 감정소모에

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Mary Faraday wrote:
And I spoiled him the GK-game .. Harr..harr..harr.. :redd:

:hobolaugh: ...I'd usually feel the need to condemn anyone who purposely spoils others -- but, in your case, he totally deserved it for having spoiled you first on such an big part of the most epic game in the series. Good job. :redd:


So...
I was spoiled on Godot, but it wasn't exactly anyone else's fault... :yuusaku:

I'd heard just the basics about the "mysterious prosecutor Godot" -- and only Godot.
Then I started seeing the name "Javado" :javado: being used in reference to Godot's potential English localized name, and I couldn't understand why... I knew that Godot's Japanese name was still "Godot," so I didn't get why fans would ever have bothered to guess at a translation...

It was my curiosity in trying to find the origin of this name that drove me to search for Godot's page on the (wonderfully detailed, yet horrifically spoiler-ridden!! :beef: ) Ace Attorney wiki.

...And there was Diego grinning back at me, mocking me for my stupidity in self-spoilage. :haykitten:

But, when I started to play the game, I was relieved to see that they did make it pretty obvious -- what with the coffee, and the theme song, and the overall style... So I'm inclined to believe this:
darquegk wrote:
I'm pretty sure Godot's identity isn't supposed to be a surprise reveal at the end. It's more of a Racer X moment- the minute we see Diego Armando, we're supposed to put two and two together and be "one step ahead" of Phoenix, since Godot's true identity becomes a valuable clue to put together the incredibly complex events of the final trial.

I really like that interpretation... Racer X -- haha, perfect analogy!! ...And it makes me not feel as bad about having been "spoiled."
...Although, if I hadn't been spoiled, I can totally see myself having just assumed that they were brothers... :payne:
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My sister was playing T&T on the Wii. (which was the first Ace Attorney game both of us came in contact with, btw.) So, she finished Recipe for Turnabout, started the next Episode and...

...Huh we are back to playing as Mia? Now, that's weird.

We kept watching, and suddenly... Diego appeared.

My reaction?

"SIS! GODOT'S WEARING RED!"

My Sis: "Thank you, Captain Obvious!"

Me: "But what's he doing with Mia Fey?!"

My Sis: "Uhm... hitting on her?"

Me: "Oh, come on, there's no---*looks at screen* OMG, YOU'RE RIGHT, HE'S HITTING ON HER! O-O You think they're... I mean, were... a couple?"

My Sis: *Sigh* "Sit down. Watch. We'll figure out soon enough."

Me: "O...K..."


So, in a nutshell: Yeah, we saw it right away. It was painfully obvious.
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I thought they were brothers - I thought Godot wanted revenge for his brother. And I didn't have the music on, so I couldn't hear it. And, I don't know how, but I somehow thought that the coffee he was drinking was tea...:sadshoe:
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Asa Turney wrote:
Mary Faraday wrote:
And I spoiled him the GK-game .. Harr..harr..harr.. :redd:

:hobolaugh: ...I'd usually feel the need to condemn anyone who purposely spoils others -- but, in your case, he totally deserved it for having spoiled you first on such an big part of the most epic game in the series. Good job. :redd:


I know, thanks. He was so angry about that, and I only want to try it, that he was so angry about me - and I finished my mission. :hotti:


Asa Turney wrote:
It was my curiosity in trying to find the origin of this name that drove me to search for Godot's page on the (wonderfully detailed, yet horrifically spoiler-ridden!! :beef: ) Ace Attorney wiki.

...And there was Diego grinning back at me, mocking me for my stupidity in self-spoilage. :haykitten:


.... Me too. :oops: ...


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I thought they were brothers - I thought Godot wanted revenge for his brother. And I didn't have the music on, so I couldn't hear it. And, I don't know how, but I somehow thought that the coffee he was drinking was tea...:sadshoe:


Should I say you one thing? You're not alone with your thoughts. I thought it too: 2 brothers, loves coffee, wears exactly similar clothes with an other colour -- and then... The EXACTLY SAME PERSON! :beef:

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Me: *saw Godot* Ow, a brother of him?


Him = Diego Armando. Oh yes, I thought it a long time..

The beginning was quite fun, just with all the ups and downs
But suddenly, we’re tired, from a waste of meaningless emotions

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nudalman wrote:
I thought they were brothers - I thought Godot wanted revenge for his brother. And I didn't have the music on, so I couldn't hear it. And, I don't know how, but I somehow thought that the coffee he was drinking was tea...:sadshoe:


WHY do you have the music off in AA ?! :eh?:
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End Quote wrote:
nudalman wrote:
I thought they were brothers - I thought Godot wanted revenge for his brother. And I didn't have the music on, so I couldn't hear it. And, I don't know how, but I somehow thought that the coffee he was drinking was tea...:sadshoe:


WHY do you have the music off in AA ?! :eh?:

Maybe he's insane? Or was drunk? on tea
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End Quote wrote:
nudalman wrote:
I thought they were brothers - I thought Godot wanted revenge for his brother. And I didn't have the music on, so I couldn't hear it. And, I don't know how, but I somehow thought that the coffee he was drinking was tea...:sadshoe:


WHY do you have the music off in AA ?! :eh?:


I was at my brothers piano competition and I forgot my headphones. :sadshoe:
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nudalman wrote:
End Quote wrote:
nudalman wrote:
I thought they were brothers - I thought Godot wanted revenge for his brother. And I didn't have the music on, so I couldn't hear it. And, I don't know how, but I somehow thought that the coffee he was drinking was tea...:sadshoe:


WHY do you have the music off in AA ?! :eh?:


I was at my brothers piano competition and I forgot my headphones. :sadshoe:

NO EXCUSE!..lol jk. I actually caught the Legendary Birds and beat the Elite 4 in FireRed at my sister's Steel Drum concert.
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First time i saw Diego i nearly dropped my DS and was like
:beef: :object: :objection: NO CAPCOM! YOU DID NOT JUST DO THAT!
i had to take a second look and i remember feeling so upset that now i knew his past. I was one of the people who wanted to wait until the very end to find out, but it was nice to see why godot did what he did in the final case.
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I don't know..... I really didn't pick up on it right away though.

Spoiler:
Honestly, when Mr Grossberg starts mentioning an attorney being poisoned. I had a feeling that i knew who he was talking about..... I had assumed he died due to the poisoning later on. it's true the 'Diego Armando" we knew did die when he became Godot.

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I immediately thought that Diego was Godot when I saw him.

On the other hand, I thought something really strange when I met Godot in case 2. I thought, "An experienced attorney working as a prosecutor, with a grudge against Phoenix, who says he's back from hell? Did Manfred Von Karma come back from the dead?"
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I spoiled myself.....


When I brought my DS to school, I got this friend who's addict to AA and likes Godot (he's a guy....)
he plays 3-4 and sees Armando and says he looks familiar. I thought he'll realize the similarities. He said the guy in red flirting with Mia was Engarde...
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It was a little too obvious that he was Godot. Just with different clothes, hair, and sans the mask.
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The moment I saw him I made the connection.

But then I thought it was too obvious, so I worked out an alternative theory that he was Godot's brother

And then, he talked about coffee, defeating my theory.
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For me, the mask and the change in hair colour was enough to hide his identity.
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The Canadian Judge wrote:
For me, the mask and the change in hair colour was enough to hide his identity.


Surely you jest, good sir.

Then again, Capcom WANTED the Diego-Godot thing to be obvious.
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LightningfistCal wrote:
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For me, the mask and the change in hair colour was enough to hide his identity.


Surely you jest, good sir.

Then again, Capcom WANTED the Diego-Godot thing to be obvious.


It wasn't THAT obvious, I thought he was still in a coma.
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Well of course I would know that is actually Godot. the outfit nor the black hair couldn't fool anyone, even me :godot:
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I sort of knew before getting to that Case, but if you don't realize it when Diego appears, then... yeah. They aren't trying very hard to hide it. Okay, I didn't connect him to the Diego who was killed in Case 3-1, but then I was like "Oh yeah, he got killed." So ... yeah... I don't think it was supposed to be a big reveal, after all.

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When you saw Diego with a cup of coffee, that's means that Diego is Godot. By The Way, we can even figure it before that case.
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When I first met Diego, I immediately knew it was Godot. I had actually forgotten the name of Mia's boyfriend from the first case, but the resemblence to Godot was obvious.

Earlier on, when I first met Godot and I heard that he was "back from hell," had a grudge against Phoenix, and had experience as an attorney even though no one had seen "Godot" in a case before, I thought it was Manfred Von Karma back from the dead.
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Since T&T was the first Ace Attorney game I ever played, I didn't think of von Karma at all. Nope. Didn't even know who that was.

So when I found out the Feys could channel the dead and I remembered Godot saying something about coming back from hell, I started wondering who the hell channeled Mia's boyfriend. And then had to put down my DS for a few weeks due to an unprecedented workload, courtesy of AP Art... Seriously, that was the only class that gave me weekend homework last year xD At any rate, it was long enough for me to forget about that and be entirely surprised when I saw Diego for the first time. And wondered again who the hell channeled him as Godot. I didn't question the mask or pseudonym; if he was dead, then it would be awkward for him to stand in court as himself. Thus, it threw me for a loop to learn he was actually alive and using his own damaged body :oops:
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I was spoiled before playing the game. Or rather, I ah... Figured it out. As an excuse I can say that I hadnt seen mmany pictures of Godot back then. Or maybe not, but anyway, I looked at a big picture of all characters, I noticed Diego and thought he looked hideous. Despite having excactly the same hairstyle and clothes except in different colours, I referred to him as... well, the exact term is hard to translate to English, but "Godot who theres something wrong with". Or a b—version of Godot, if you like. Then i checked the charac yers page for t&t here, and I decided to see who "that guy" was. When I read that Diego Armando drank a lot of coffee, the penny finally dropped.
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I remember some odd fragments from before I played the game. Something about me asking my sibling to tell me more about Godot for reasons unkno... no, curiosity, probably. I know I had seen a picture on my sibling's computer when I visited them, some fanart with Godot seeing Diego in a mirror, and I asked why there was an "inverted Godot" in the mirror. They didn't answer, though, until I asked about Godot (and possibly the "inverted" one?) when we were out lunching some weeks later. I really hope that I would realize that Diego was Godot when I first met him if I hadn't deliberately spoiled myself, but I can be so damn gullible at times so who the hell knows.
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I thought "oh he looks like Godot" but didn't make the conclusion that he actually was Godot... damn, 11-year-old me was smart... or maybe I didn't register it? I don't remember, but I know I didn't make the exact connection...

When I first heard the name, I recognised it from somewhere... somewhere which turned out to be the first case...
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Hmm... I thought he was Godot's twin or something. I really suck at understanding stories soooo... I didn't get it. Ahaha... Still, I was surprised they were the same person. It did make sense. :godot:
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Knowing Godot's background didn't really affect the game in my opinion. The final case was just as captivating, and no matter how much you pieced together ahead of time, watching Godot slowly turn and then finally breaking down was just as moving.

As for the original discussion I realized it when Godot was shaken by seeing the channeled Mia (before I actually met younger Diego).
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