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and no, I didn't mean to use the sprites for another CR contest, I just wanted to know if it's okay if I use the sprites personally for myself ^^
but yeah, this question is answered too
yay, I will start immediately :D
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Croik wrote:
You mean... different outfits for your OC? I think in this case it would be better just to do one outfit per entry (since if the outfit is different enough that might even look like a whole new entry, which is not acceptable).
thanks for the answer!
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Can you post a recolored sprite as a new char?
Just asking.
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It isnt really neccesary, you can also submit them seperatly and i'l arange them for you should you wish so.
The only thing i'm asking is to have them already transparant (typo?), and to be saved in PNG or GIF.
@Godotscoffee: Short answer, Nope. XD
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I won't participate, just curious. It seems like there's nothing to stop someone from entering a traditionally drawn character (as opposed to a pixel-drawn one) and shrink it down to below 256x192p size and call it a sprite.
Most likely an entry like that wouldn't be able win on the grounds of it not being "technically impressive", but it'd probably be a good idea to make clear what exactly is meant by "sprite". Just in case, so no one gets grumpy that their pretty character failed because it didn't fulfill an unstated requirement, like the number of colours or whatever.
Either way, there is no reason not to draw the character first, and then (re-)colour it digitally in as few colours as possible. (But it's incredibly boring. I did it once. Can't show the result though, since the person who drew the base image isn't around here anymore and I got no permission. It was good practice though)
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Ceres wrote:
@Acroma: There's isnt a "official template" for these things, but perhaps take a look at the previous Oc contests, perhaps you can mimic a certain layout.
It isnt really neccesary, you can also submit them seperatly and i'l arange them for you should you wish so.
The only thing i'm asking is to have them already transparant (typo?), and to be saved in PNG or GIF.
@Godotscoffee: Short answer, Nope. XD
It isnt really neccesary, you can also submit them seperatly and i'l arange them for you should you wish so.
The only thing i'm asking is to have them already transparant (typo?), and to be saved in PNG or GIF.
@Godotscoffee: Short answer, Nope. XD
OMG we should do tranparency too?
I'm not sure my work is transparenced (how to spell this?) or not, I think I've make it transparent in Image Ready, but I'm not sure for the result.
Because I only know 1 program to make transparenced .gif (named irfanview, local program in my country), and it couldn't perfect
, because it awats make some dots in some areas (when I use to save .png as .gif). 
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Tatis Kartoffelov wrote:
What is the definition of a sprite, in the context of this contest?
I won't participate, just curious. It seems like there's nothing to stop someone from entering a traditionally drawn character (as opposed to a pixel-drawn one) and shrink it down to below 256x192p size and call it a sprite.
I won't participate, just curious. It seems like there's nothing to stop someone from entering a traditionally drawn character (as opposed to a pixel-drawn one) and shrink it down to below 256x192p size and call it a sprite.
In the past two years we've had a sprite category in the OC contest, I've never had someone submit a non-sprite claiming it was a sprite. I suspect anyone interested enough in entering knows the difference between fanart and a sprite.
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But tell me, is this a sprite?
And why?
D. A. Vieralita, Irfanview has no problems saving png as gif. Simply saving the file should let you pick a transparent colour and, if the png doesn't contain more than 256 colours and no semitransparencies, will not lower the quality.
Not that you should use gifs unless you want animations, in which case you can still use pngs if you jump through some hoops to animate them. (Personally, I jump through this hoop. It works, but seems a bit user-unfriendly despite its simple design).
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i used irfanview for that
notice some dots in his arms
i'm afraid if my entry does have some dots like that
it lost its point in "technically impressive" thing
and for that maya?
that's not a sprite, right?
it's official art
why? i think sprite is only those that capcom made (those official sprites) and their edits.
so a hand drawn classified as original art
maybe?
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Tatis Kartoffelov wrote:
I think I know what you think everyone thinks is a sprite.
But tell me, is this a sprite?
And why?
But tell me, is this a sprite?
And why?
Yes, it is. Maybe you've never noticed, but there are quite a few characters'(especially AJ charaters') normal sprites are just their resized offical arts. Somehow I'm agree with you on this point though, in my opinion traditionally drawn sprites are supposed to be defined as fanarts. But the problem is, even commonly sprite editing usually contains scratch. Maybe it just be me, but completly editing without any scratching is very hard, not to mention the limit. And if we discard the traditionally drawn sprites, then where we should draw the line between fanarts and scratch sprites?
So...yeah, I believe accepting the drawn sprites is the best solution anyway.
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Limited colours, while this is not really neccesary for the contest, blurred resized fanart tend to look cheaper then pixel per pixel edited sprites.
I'm not demeaning anything here, but only thing i'm saying is let's not go overboard with what's not" and "what is" a sprite.
Those serious about entering will know what they should enter.
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No one is going overboard with anything here. I never asked for a general, formal, technically correct definition of "sprite". I want to know what it means in this contest. As shown, it is not self-explanatory.
Here, let me give you an example;
Have a look at the CR group photo. The purple-haired girl (who I assume is made by Tuesday) in the middle of the photo is obviously a drawn image (not pixel art) resized to the same dimensions as the character images from the games.
But is it a "sprite" or resized character art?
Depending on how you interpret the rules of this contest an entry like Miss Purple would either be disqualified or... not. Or worse, it might get penalized because it looks "cheap", which isn't mentioned in the rules at all.
It wouldn't hurt to elaborate on the judging criteria.
Going by your last post, drawn art is actually eligible but is likely to suffer because it isn't hand-pixeled. This is what I predicted in my first post, and it is not apparent in the rules.
D.A.V, please send me the pngs you used to make your avatar and I'll look into whether the problem is in Irfanview or the images.
What version of Irfanview do you have?
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Tatis Kartoffelov wrote:
No, they don't know what they should enter, obviously. Did you read the two posts above yours? They explicitly contradict each other.
No one is going overboard with anything here. I never asked for a general, formal, technically correct definition of "sprite". I want to know what it means in this contest. As shown, it is not self-explanatory.
Here, let me give you an example;
Have a look at the CR group photo. The purple-haired girl (who I assume is made by Tuesday) in the middle of the photo is obviously a drawn image (not pixel art) resized to the same dimensions as the character images from the games.
But is it a "sprite" or resized character art?
Depending on how you interpret the rules of this contest an entry like Miss Purple would either be disqualified or... not. Or worse, it might get penalized because it looks "cheap", which isn't mentioned in the rules at all.
It wouldn't hurt to elaborate on the judging criteria.
Going by your last post, drawn art is actually eligible but is likely to suffer because it isn't hand-pixeled. This is what I predicted in my first post, and it is not apparent in the rules.
D.A.V, please send me the pngs you used to make your avatar and I'll look into whether the problem is in Irfanview or the images.
What version of Irfanview do you have?
No one is going overboard with anything here. I never asked for a general, formal, technically correct definition of "sprite". I want to know what it means in this contest. As shown, it is not self-explanatory.
Here, let me give you an example;
Have a look at the CR group photo. The purple-haired girl (who I assume is made by Tuesday) in the middle of the photo is obviously a drawn image (not pixel art) resized to the same dimensions as the character images from the games.
But is it a "sprite" or resized character art?
Depending on how you interpret the rules of this contest an entry like Miss Purple would either be disqualified or... not. Or worse, it might get penalized because it looks "cheap", which isn't mentioned in the rules at all.
It wouldn't hurt to elaborate on the judging criteria.
Going by your last post, drawn art is actually eligible but is likely to suffer because it isn't hand-pixeled. This is what I predicted in my first post, and it is not apparent in the rules.
D.A.V, please send me the pngs you used to make your avatar and I'll look into whether the problem is in Irfanview or the images.
What version of Irfanview do you have?
If you'd like a formal definition of sprite, there is a wikipedia entry, which specifically only states that,
"two-dimensional/three-dimensional image or animation that is integrated into a larger scene.
Sprites were originally invented as a method of quickly compositing several images together in two-dimensional video games using special hardware. As computer performance improved, this optimization became unnecessary and the term evolved to refer specifically to the two dimensional images themselves that were integrated into a scene. "
(wikipedia may not be a viable source for university papers however if referring to a new and common term, unless you have a better source, it will do)
a sprite is any computer-generated (not limited to any certain software) image that is meant to be a 2-D character which can be placed onto a background or larger scene, this does not make reference to whether the sprite must be made up of pieces from Ace Attorney drawing or from scratch (drawn). As I recall, last year's Original Character Contest, there were a lot of contestants with sprites made from scratch which made it to the finalists, thus making it such that on CR, sprites include anything that is a character which could be placed in front of a background. In the official rules of the Original Characters contest and in this one, nowhere does it say a sprite made from scratch cannot be entered.
Unfortunately, in order for a good or at least decent piece of character art to be produced, at least simple background is always a plus. in order to produce a good character art, background and composition of overall picture is always important, which is not the case with a sprite. In miss purple's case (and yes it is made by Tuesday) her parts were actually mostly from official sprites as far as i can tell. Even in the case of a custom sprite made from already existing parts this is completely within the lines of being a sprite and should not be disqualified. As for the latter part of your comment, keeping derogatory opinions to yourself may be the better thing to do in this case, as in I'm not sure everyone shares your "common" view.
As in the rules makes no reference to the sprite having to be hand-pixelated, i'm supposing that the criteria is on the overall looks of the sprite and how much they look like they can fit into the ace attorney world. everything else, including how the "sprite" is done, is just technicalities which shouldn't affect the result.
In order to clear up some issues, I will present the sprite which i have just made and which i will be entering into the contest, it is completely hand drawn, take it as an example and if this could be accepted as a sprite, then no doubt not only "Ms. Purple" will be able to make it, but all made from scratch sprites should be able to.
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Tatis Kartoffelov wrote:
Here, let me give you an example;
Have a look at the CR group photo. The purple-haired girl (who I assume is made by Tuesday) in the middle of the photo is obviously a drawn image (not pixel art) resized to the same dimensions as the character images from the games.
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Have a look at the CR group photo. The purple-haired girl (who I assume is made by Tuesday) in the middle of the photo is obviously a drawn image (not pixel art) resized to the same dimensions as the character images from the games.
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Does it really look like in a non-PW style? Oh my, what a poor editor I am
But anyway, you are wrong. I DID make it by puting different parts of original sprites together then resizing and transforming and recoloring them.
Trucy's face+Pearl's eyes+Edgey's&Franny's&Lamiroir's hair+Lamiroir's body+a few parts which I drew+the pattern on her cloth which I took from somewhere else=
I did draw her eyebrows and her collars by myself though. Oh yeah I also drew the shadow on her neck, because Trucy's neck is always covered by her tiny red scarf.
See what I mean by "it's hard to draw a line between fanarts and scratch sprites" now? Because people's-includes yours and mine-judgement can always be incorrect.
BTW,what I'm wondering now is why you are still being confused by this question. Ceres has made it very clear that hand drawing sprites are acceptable in the very original rules, so which part is still confusing?
flames05 wrote:
Spoiler: save room
And I believe this is exactly what we call as a "hand drawn sprite"? Since it fits the GS art style to me, I think it is suppsed to be accepted. Just my opinion though.
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Tatis Kartoffelov wrote:
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D.A.V, please send me the pngs you used to make your avatar and I'll look into whether the problem is in Irfanview or the images.
What version of Irfanview do you have?
D.A.V, please send me the pngs you used to make your avatar and I'll look into whether the problem is in Irfanview or the images.
What version of Irfanview do you have?
portable
i'll send it asap
nobody answer my question?
-> transparent is a must??
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Obviously it was done "by hand" but you can still see the limited use of colors. There is a difference between "art" and "pixel art" and this entry is clearly the later. However, it's also worth noting that the judges that year deducted points from it for not being as consistent with Ace Attorney style as some of the other entries. The "continuity" aspect of the judging is all about whether or not you think a particular sprite would be at home within one of the games, so while the sprite is technically impressive, it doesn't look like you could just copy-paste it behind a bench and it would look authentic, due to its size and style.
As for Flame's potential entry, it definitely looks more like a fanart or a character from a visual novel than a sprite. Just because it was drawn on a computer does not mean it's pixel art. I would suggest resizing to meet DS screen size restrictions (192 pixels tall), and also slimming the palette down. When you do submit, if you could include a short description of your technique it would also aid the judges.
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Thank you.
Is the word of Croik absolute?
If so, what she said should be added to the rules/guidelines.
See now why I thought it was necessary to ask?
There are technical details in this contest that aren't self-evident to the contestants. Heck, even that guy who tried to lecture me was in the wrong (Damn, that felt good, oh yeah).
Phew. I just wish I didn't have to drag out the answer like that.
Tuesday, I'm sorry if I sounded like I dislike your work. I don't, it is fine.
D. A. V, put the links to the images in a PM to me. We'll resolve your dot issue outside this thread, OK?
I couldn't find anything odd in Irfanview Portable 4.20. But I think I should point out that I don't think Portable is the real, official version. You should probably uninstall what you have and replace it with Irfanview 4.20 from this site.
I don't know if the entries must be transparent, sorry.
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Nice that you're feeling good about it, but in this case Croik's word isnt as absolute as you might imagine. ( although she explained it very nicely with the example)
Refer to my previous post where i mentioned limited colours, while i agree It may have lacked an "detailed explanation" it comes down to the same thing. (should you have taken the liberty to fully read that post)
I never intended to "lecture" anyone, and in all honesty I feel rather insulted by your remark.
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to Tatis Kartoffelov , as to the lecture...I had 3 purposes, 1) to shed light on the definitions of sprites which i can find, 2) to let you know you're being derogatory and subjective, and 3) to bring about an example so questions like this can be settled once and for all ^_^ I don't really think that it sounds lecturing, i've achieved all 3 goals so at least i'm happy -v- can't wait to see what you're whipping up for the competition ^o^
Croik, thanks for the clarifications, i'll perfect this sprite before the competition ^_^ in the above example i've already limited to two colors for shadows, one main color and one color for highlights per item of the sprite^_^ just one more color than what Nuri Kazuya uses, he occasionally even uses the same sets as me (e.g. klavier gavin's sprite). I will resize and pixelate it for the contest though.
It's my first time doing sprites so please do speak up if anything needs changing, I don't want to miss the competition XD
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Ceres wrote:
I assume that by "that guy" you're referring to me.
Nope. Flame05.
There is any need to make a fuss over it. Relax. Don't be so touchy.
Speaking of whom,
Flame05, you kind of wasted your time because 1) I know the technical definition of sprite (hence why I didn't ask for one), 2) I wasn't subjective because I never stated my own opinion, 3) Your example was flawed (according to Croik).
I found that your post had a lecturing tone. But if you say it didn't, I apologize.
Ceres, you do realize that your way of writing is very ambiguous, right? I did read your last post, and it said nothing. You handwaved my question (twice, now, with your last post) in the face of complete proof of it's validity.
It's not a difficult question. Why not answer it and add the explanation to the rules?
Maybe you could answer D.A.V.s question too while you're at it?
Also, just now, you said what Croik said isn't the whole truth, but you didn't elaborate on what you meant by that. That's a great way of sowing confusion, and I suspect you're not even aware of that, or of how vague you really are.
Bah... This doesn't even matter. You don't need to bother with a response. There are only three judges. Whichever way you judge won't matter because there are so many more of us voters than there are of you.
Democracy is wonderful.
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Tatis Kartoffelov wrote:
Bah... This doesn't even matter. You don't need to bother with a response. There are only three judges. Whichever way you judge won't matter because there are so many more of us voters than there are of you.
Democracy is wonderful.
Democracy is wonderful.
Tatis at this point I feel I should ask you to calm down with your tone. Ceres is running this contest, my site and I are hosting it, and both of us are judges. If we determine that an entry is not a sprite or not related enough to Ace Attorney it won't even make it to the "democracy" stage. I'm not making threats or anything, I'm just saying, the way we judge makes all the difference, so talking down to us doesn't do anyone any good.
Of course, anyone who has a question about whether their sprite is acceptable, or has an example of something close to what they intend to make, is always free to ask one of us. Or better yet, post it to the forum for critique. We're all Ace Attorney fans here, everyone is qualified to judge "Does this look enough like an AA sprite?" There's no rule that you can't post your sprite around and get comments before entering it.
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"Pixel arts" means pictures which are drawn pixel by pixel, like how the forum smilies were made. Sometimes I draw pixel arts as well, so I know the difference between the common arts and pixel arts.
However, GS sprites are not pixel arts. The artist just drew big sprites first, then resized them and save them in gif format.
You don't agree? Let's see how does it work.
First I took a page of the AJ art book from CR: http://www.court-records.net/arts/artbo ... gs-420.jpg
Then I picked the part I need and erased the other part of the page.
Due to the limited quality of the original scanned page, I had to adjusted the color by using the "replace color" tool in PS.Then I resized the sprite into 107X169P
This is what I got after adjusting the color.I saved it in png format just make it clear that it was impossible to be taken from the sprite sheet.
Then I saved the pic into gif format.
And the same sprite I picked from the sprite sheet
(I have no idea why the sprite blured after being saved, probably due to my PS)
I failed to adjusted the one I picked from the art book into the very exactly color with the original one because I'm not a computer, but other than that, they are exactly the same.
Obviously enough, the sprites what we see in the games are just resized hand drawn arts, not pexil arts.
Then why does the sprite have some kind of "color limit"? Because they are in gif format, which can only display 256 colors. When the picture was saved as a gif, the software automatically replace the color pixels which are not in the 256 colors range into the most similar ones.Sprites which are in png format don't have this problem.
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As Tuesday had said above, and i've been wanting to ask about this... Nuri Kazuya (artist for AJ)'s sprites are all just resized from his character art drawn with a professional drawing software which, if isn't corel painter or photoshop, is definitely another drawing software and not doing it pixel by pixel. Does his drawn characters not count as sprites? OvO Or does CR have a rule that specified for CR sprites or just the entries into this competition must be pixelated to begin with? Because they all kinda end up pixelated after extreme resizing to game size.
So I'd like just one last bit of clarification. Is resized drawn art in gif format (which will look exactly like Nuri Kazuya's sprites technical-wise because that's technically what he did) ok or must the characters be done pixel by pixel?
I'm sorry for the lecturing tone, it's a university political science habit, but i don't think it's just my subjective view that you calling other people's sprite "looking 'cheap'" is not nice O_O and apparently it seems everyone's definition of sprites are...very different O_O I chose to draw my sprites based on Nuri Kazuya's examples.
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The art is obviously used as a model for the sprites, but I don't think it's as simple as just resizing.
Actually, this would be a good question to put to the developers.
EDIT to Flame: While I still don't necessarily agree that resizing is all you need to do to make art into a sprite (especially using the equipment us non-capcom-employees have access to), I've already said that hand drawn sprites are acceptable, but they will be judged on how similar they look to AA style.
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If you feel insulted, I'l gladly apologize.
I was remarking on the fact that Blurred resized fanart tend to look different compared to game sprites. (with the emphasis on blurred, as I stated in my previously post)
But like Tuesday just demonstrated, there are ways to almost perfectly convert this.
Hopefully, some of these things are now properly cleared up.
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Croik wrote:
Even when working with a piece of high quality art ripped from the official home pages, you still get the tell-tale bluring and errant pixels.
But actually if you take a close look at the ripped arts, you can see they are different with the sprites in very tiny details. Design is a design, sprite is another thing. Say, you can put more than 3 layers of cloth shadow on a design if you want, but you can't do that on a sprite because it would take you toooooo much time on finishing a full sheet.
I agree with you that a proper drawing style is very important. Since the GS sprites have no more than 3 layers of shadow on their clothes, doing the same thing on our entry for sure is better than drawing in our own style.
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But actually if you take a close look at the ripped arts, you can see they are different with the sprites in very tiny details. Design is a design, sprite is another thing. Say, you can put more than 3 layers of cloth shadow on a design if you want, but you can't do that on a sprite because it would take you toooooo much time on finishing a full sheet.
I'm not necessarily talking about that, I mean the basic quality of the image. Saving the art as a gif will naturally lower it to 256 colors, but most GS sprites don't use that many. Even in places where the color is supposed to be solid, you still get little pop in pixels that take away the crispness of the sprite.
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Croik wrote:
I'm not necessarily talking about that, I mean the basic quality of the image. Saving the art as a gif will naturally lower it to 256 colors, but most GS sprites don't use that many. Even in places where the color is supposed to be solid, you still get little pop in pixels that take away the crispness of the sprite.
It happens becuase Photoshop is not that perfect...
Whatever, I'm happy this question has been cleared^-^*high five*
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Croik wrote:
Tatis at this point I feel I should ask you to calm down with your tone. Ceres is running this contest, my site and I are hosting it, and both of us are judges. If we determine that an entry is not a sprite or not related enough to Ace Attorney it won't even make it to the "democracy" stage. I'm not making threats or anything, I'm just saying, the way we judge makes all the difference, so talking down to us doesn't do anyone any good.
Calm down? I don't need to calm down. There are no further depths of calmness to descend into. I am the platonic ideal of serenity incarnate. Yes, indeed.
Seriously though, I don't do agitation on the internet. Especially not the petty, lukewarm, disdainful variety. No point getting worked up, I say.
As a rule, if you find words written on the internet aggravating it's your own fault. It's all in your mind, and the only cure is to not assume other people are full of contempt.
It really helps if you have the voice of your mind read everything in a passionless, calm voice. Like if you were reading a textbook, for example.
Anyway, no one who has read to page three of this thread will accidentally submit a clearly unqualified, but otherwise worthy, entry. Not by mistake.
(Also, I still think all non-trivial questions answered should be added to the first post. It's only proper)
By the way, who's the mysterious third judge?
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