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1. They are no longer allowed in the Sprite Comics section.
2. All of them are in one thread.
This deeply bothers me, since I believe that smiley comics are a fun and creative variation of Sprite Comics, and a wonderfully flexible way to use the smilies (especially for those who, like myself, really aren't good at sprite editing, which seems a crucial part to Sprite Comics).
I propose that we make a new forum under Present Evidence meant exclusively for smiley comics. This way, people can make theirs separately from everyone else, and series comics will be made possible.
What say you to that, pardner?
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But that's just me. What does everyone else think?
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But as for the sprite editing thing...
You could just use PW sprites, I mean, they are already provided for you...
At the same time though you guys, there are also a bunch of people who want the BBC back...
can't get everything XD
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The problem with the "smilie comics" is that they're so easy to make that many of them (of the ones I encountered - not naming anyone specifically) ended up being really spammy, with little attempt at coherence or character. Plus they're not exactly "comics" in the sense of the word anyway.
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Darzie P wrote:
They weren't "comics", they were glorified scripts.
This. I think that's what annoyed me.
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I really see your points, but there are great smiley comics that just don't get the attention they deserve...
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And there are parts in smiley comics where there are a lot of characters and it would be next to impossible to fit all of them into one sprite comic panel. Plus, finding suitable backgrounds are very difficult unless you want to use the ones from the PW games...It's not like we can randomly pick a background and hope it works...
Maybe my views are slightly one-sided because I actually used to make multiple series of smiley comics, but it's nice to hear all sides of the issue.
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http://forums.court-records.net/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=10461&start=0
I put a lot of work into these. And there are people who think it's funny. Maybe mine are an exception?
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The same can be said of smiley comics, There are good ones and bad ones.
Now then, Personally I frankly don't give a shit about this debate, but I agree that if enough people are creating these, a new subforum would be in order to keep things organised. (this can be said off all fanworks)
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I mean, you already have the script, all they need to do is place it and type it out...
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Still, a debate is a debate, and it might as well end.
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Still Couldn't hurt to discuss these matters, let those with their oppinions speak here.
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Ceres can reopen topics?
Power XD
But yes, I agree.
It couldn't hurt, since it seems many have a opinion on it.
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Gerkuman simply changed his mind. :P
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I can't understand many things this week sorry XD Too much partying over the break haha]
Well back on topic...
Like I was saying, if they are so passionate about their scripts, they could kindly ask a spriter to turn their script into a comic. There would be no editing and such involved, just placing of character.
Kinda like Phoenix Wrongs.
Its like the guy who made the Ace Mythbusters.
All he did was put a hat on Edgey and made the funny happen.
It still would of been funny, without the editing he did.
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Lida_Rose wrote:
"Glorified scripts?" Are you suggesting that I could make all the smiley comics I've seen (and made) into a script-form fanfiction and have them turn out just as well as the original comics?
I don't see why not...? After reading through the first few "auditions" in the thread you posted, I don't see how any of those particularly benefited from the smilies in a way that wouldn't work in normal script form. Or wouldn't be improved by using full sprites.
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And there are parts in smiley comics where there are a lot of characters and it would be next to impossible to fit all of them into one sprite comic panel. Plus, finding suitable backgrounds are very difficult unless you want to use the ones from the PW games...It's not like we can randomly pick a background and hope it works...
A good sprite comic doesn't have to have every character in a scene in one panel anyway. And backgrounds... smilie comics don't have those anyway. It's not like you couldn't do a sprite comic with a generic background, or otherwise exercise some Google-fu to find what you need.
I'm glad people like the smilies so much but in general I don't like creating more sub-sections, especially for something like this where they would easily fit into an existing section if a little more effort was put into them.
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Now, I'm not (or planning to) creating smiley comics, But yes, I would be confused as well if there was no clear destination for my works.
Besides a sub-section in the sprite comics section shouldn't be that hard for people to figure out.
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Ceres wrote:
I'm sorry Croik, but that last post sounded quite demeaning against "Smiley comic artists", Certainly effort was put into them, how much can not be generalized for the entire genre.
the thing is that they aren't part of a genre, they are literally scripts with icons instead of names. that doesn't need its own section.
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If there are quite a bunch of people who enjoy those thingies, I let them be. And they can have their own subforum if they want, in my opinion ... Even if it's not my taste, this stuff should still have its place to go for those who like it.
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Ceres wrote:
No Sammie, I have no such feats.
Gerkuman simply changed his mind. :P
Gerkuman simply changed his mind. :P
I don't understand why, since Smiley "Comics" are all pretty retarded. They get acted out everywhere too and they are never funny.
People put a ton of effort into them always, considering how damn long they tend to be. They're still retarded. I think what nobody is admitting here is that they're too lazy to use sprites, so they're hoping to get a free pass to show off their lame jokes.
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I don't understand why, since Smiley "Comics" are all pretty retarded. They get acted out everywhere too and they are never funny.
People put a ton of effort into them always, considering how damn long they tend to be. They're still retarded. I think what nobody is admitting here is that they're too lazy to use sprites, so they're hoping to get a free pass to show off their lame jokes.
People put a ton of effort into them always, considering how damn long they tend to be. They're still retarded. I think what nobody is admitting here is that they're too lazy to use sprites, so they're hoping to get a free pass to show off their lame jokes.
See, it's ignorance like this that keeps real artists from portraying things in the style they want.
It's like banning crayons from art. Sure, they're not markers or colored pencils, but they still color and make beautiful things in the right hands. The smiley comics wouldn't be the same if they were sprite comics; that's why the aren't.
Also: Too lazy to use sprites? How about unable to? Or maybe there aren't sprites that show what the artist really wants. I'll have you know that there are amazing writers out there who AREN'T THAT GIFTED WITH THE VISUAL ARTS!!! That doesn't make their works any better or worse than the next guy.
Think of it like mixing fanfiction and sprite comics. There needs to be the visual appeal, but the main focus is on the dialogue.
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Holy Hell wrote:
As an artist, I can tell you that you're full of shit and you're arguing about some crayon shit that has nothing to do with this.
And as a fellow artist, I can tell you that you don't have an open mind.
The point isn't to make you guys like smiley comics, it's to allow them to have their own forum (or subforum, whatever works). You don't have to actually GO there; in fact, I don't care if you never look at a smiley comic in your life. But for those who enjoy them, we should make a little room.
If I fail to make my point, tell me. If you just want to flame me, don't bother.
P.S. About the crayons... It's called a simile, which is like a metaphor. Basic English language stuff. Deal with it.
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Batdor_Trogman wrote:
P.S. About the crayons... It's called a simile, which is like a metaphor. Basic English language stuff. Deal with it.
You did not just try to act condescending to me.
I have nothing else to say here.
edit: You know what, no, that was a lie. I have a hell of a lot to say to you, especially of your treatment regarding "real artistry".
But I'm going to be nice and I'm not going to argue. I'm going to leave.
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Quote:
P.S. About the crayons... It's called a simile, which is like a metaphor. Basic English language stuff. Deal with it.
next time you post you might want to make sure you know what you're talking about
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: Hi guys! Sorry to break it to you, but smiley comics barely deserve their own topic much less a bunch of topics in another subforum. Or their own subforum for that matter.I think I'm good at this whole smiley comic thing.
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Holy Hell wrote:
You did not just try to act condescending to me.
And neither did you, apparently.
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I have nothing else to say here.
Good. Goodbye.
zuddy: I know what I'm talking about. But you may or may not...
Pickens: Barely deserve their own topic? I just- I- ...sorry, I need to go cool off.
You know what? I don't need to respond to these last two. You wanna insult me, go ahead. Do it by PM. If you want to actually debate and give me a logical argument, post here. I don't want this place spammed by flame wars.
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Batdor_Trogman wrote:
Pickens: Barely deserve their own topic? I just- I- ...sorry, I need to go cool off.
are you serious
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Quote:
zuddy: I know what I'm talking about. But you may or may not...
wrongbecause the word you wanted instead of simile is analogy
stay awake in class next time
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Can we focus on the subject (namely, smiley comics)? PLEASE!?
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Croik wrote:
Lida_Rose wrote:
"Glorified scripts?" Are you suggesting that I could make all the smiley comics I've seen (and made) into a script-form fanfiction and have them turn out just as well as the original comics?
I don't see why not...? After reading through the first few "auditions" in the thread you posted, I don't see how any of those particularly benefited from the smilies in a way that wouldn't work in normal script form. Or wouldn't be improved by using full sprites.
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And there are parts in smiley comics where there are a lot of characters and it would be next to impossible to fit all of them into one sprite comic panel. Plus, finding suitable backgrounds are very difficult unless you want to use the ones from the PW games...It's not like we can randomly pick a background and hope it works...
A good sprite comic doesn't have to have every character in a scene in one panel anyway. And backgrounds... smilie comics don't have those anyway. It's not like you couldn't do a sprite comic with a generic background, or otherwise exercise some Google-fu to find what you need.
I'm glad people like the smilies so much but in general I don't like creating more sub-sections, especially for something like this where they would easily fit into an existing section if a little more effort was put into them.
Okay, this really hurt to read. I'm sorry, I just can't let it slide.
You know what? Here's the first episode in script form. I believe it leaves something to be desired for visual effect.
Spoiler: My attempt at proving a point
See, without the basic faces and actions, you lose the effect I was going for. However, if I made it a sprite comic, it would be too focused on the visual effect thus taking away from the jokes. That's why I chose a middle ground.
Also, about the backgrounds...they aren't there because they are to be visualized with your own imagination, but that doesn't make them non-existent in your mind's eye. If I had a sprite comic, it wouldn't feel right to put a generic background to replace what I see as I think about what I'm writing. Do you seriously picture the images without a background? You don't see the talent scouts sitting behind a table while these comedians get on stage? Because that's what I see and saw while writing this. But people will see it a different way, but a generic background doesn't give you the same effect.
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You should focus on the writing, not the smilies.
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Holy Hell wrote:
The sprites add absolutely nothing to it. Moe still means Moe, visuals or not. I think what you're trying to say is that you cannot deliver a joke well and you need extra enhancements to assist you in your shortcomings.
I think you missed the point...
And it's not like Lida's never done anything besides her sprite comics, either. She has some awesome fanfictions.
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Of course the first few I posted were rocky, but it was my first attempt at it, and it evolved over time. Not all people like it. You don't have to if you don't want to, but criticizing someone personally because you don't like their work is drawing the line. I-I need to leave this topic alone for a while...
And if you say, "the truth hurts" or anything along those lines, then I-I'll...
MAKE SURE NOT TO LET IT KEEP ME DOWN!!! I won't ever stoop to the point where I'll hit below the belt just to prove my point. By the way, I disapprove of what you said, but I'm not going to flame you for it. You probably are just trying to prove your point, and that's what this is for. Debating. Not flaming.
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