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As disappointed as I am that Apollo isn't the main character in GS5, (he does have so much more room for character development as you say,) I'm sure they aren't "erasing him from existance". There's plenty of evidence from these screenshots that AJ wasn't retconned completely. The fact that the game takes place 1 year after AJ, after Phoenix was disbarred, and notice the chain in his coat pocket. I'll bet that's Trucy's locket.

Apollo makes no appearance in these screenshots so far. If he were the main character alongside Phoenix, or even his sidekick, he would have shown up. But he hasn't. It's a shame that he isn't the protagonist, or the sidekick, but I suppose he could still have a major role in the story. I certainly hope he will.

As for the girl who is his sidekick, I think that's a new character, not Trucy or Pearl. While the cresent earring points towards Trucy, it doesn't have any more aspects of her character design, or Pearl's. All they really have in common is the brown hair, which doesn't quite match either Trucy or Pearl's shade.
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That could make sense. Maybe you could even play as both of them when one investigates a part of the case and the other investigates a second part(a bit like GS3-5, maybe?).


That sounds a good idea, I like it.
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Such exciting news! Vest Phoenix is amazing, and I'm curious about the new assistant. She looks older than the teen girl sidekicks of the past. As much as I love Ace Attorney's Genki Girls, it'd be interesting to have a different personality type- it could provide a very different dynamic.
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Small preview of the Famitsu article on their site.

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http://www.famitsu.com/news/201209/06020703.html

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I'm all for the dual-protagonist thing. I just don't want this to be all about Phoenix and disregarding plot threads left by the fourth game. That would be disappointing and cowardly writing, in my opinion.
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I'm a bit interested in the lower right corner of this page. It's looking something similar to Simon Says with smiley faces. Maybe it's some sort of new mechanic for the court, like Apollo's bracelet?

This also goes with the assistant's new glove that is shown. I'm curious how it will play into things. Her earring also seems to be of significance.
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I'm a bit interested in the lower right corner of this page. It's looking something similar to Simon Says with smiley faces. Maybe it's some sort of new mechanic for the court, like Apollo's bracelet?


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Famitsu has just three screenshots, but they hint at some new gameplay systems. Like Layton vs Ace Attorney, the game will have fully 3D characters. It appears that you'll be able to select to give certain facial expressions during testimony, as there are facial expression icons on the lower screen.


I didn't really like Apollo, but I'm SURE there'll be some sort of reference to him in this game. If it's post-AJ, then they HAVE to mention about how Nick got disbarred, which would be a great spot for a Polly reference. :odoroki:

MYSTIC MAYA WHERE ARE YOU?! :payne:

What I really want to know is why there's two screenshots of what appears to be the last (AJ) game...
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What I really want to know is why there's two screenshots of what appears to be the last (AJ) game...

I think that's just a "Here's a recap of what Nick was like in the previous games, for those of you with the memory span of an AA character"
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Color me silly if I'm wrong, but isn't that an archery glove? I'm pretty sure that my cousins have glove just like that in their hunting gear.

New Girl + Moon Motif + Archery Glove = Artemis? Nice pun off of Apollo if that's her name.

As to the news...

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Hhhhh...Not sure how to react for Phoenix's return...
Granted, in the AJ trailer itself it was stated that "A new attorney takes the stand"
And for me; I never considered Apollo as the main character, just another new attorney.
But I still feel sorry for him since Nick TOTALLY stole the spotlight from him...And in his own game...!

It's just...I liked Api, so this sucks IMO...
I wanted to know his background more...

...I guess I'm talking like they'd confirmed 100% tha Api won't be in this game,
TBH honest; it'd be weird if Trucy nor Api appears at all,
but...hhh...You get the idea...

I just can't feel hyped...At least not yet...
It's just so...meh..hhh...... :sadshoe:
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But who wants nods? I want ANSWERS to the dangling plot threads of Ace Attorney 4.

Edgeworth left and came back in Ace Attorney 2. Does that mean Klavier could make an appearance? Phoenix is still a father to Trucy, regardless of his standing as a lawyer. SURELY that means she'll be back.

My guess is as good or bad as any but to me it looks like this game is supposed to brush 4 under the rug.
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But who wants nods? I want ANSWERS to the dangling plot threads of Ace Attorney 4.

Edgeworth left and came back in Ace Attorney 2. Does that mean Klavier could make an appearance? Phoenix is still a father to Trucy, regardless of his standing as a lawyer. SURELY that means she'll be back.

My guess is as good or bad as any but to me it looks like this game is supposed to brush 4 under the rug.


I was actually thinking that Gavin has to make an appearance, if only because he was Wrights last adversary.

And I was thinking that they must want to tell some sort if story with trucy/apollo in it, because they could have made it 5 years after GS4 and just mentioned that Trucy was at college or something. I think the fact theyade it so close to GS4 is reassuring.
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I also don't think they need to put Valant on a bus since we know Lamiroir's real identity and they could have some plot interaction. And of course the contrived coincidence relationship triangle that ties Lamiroir, Apollo, and Trucy together at least needs some closure.

If you wanted me to be really forthcoming, I'd even venture to say I thought Vera could make a good supporting character for future installments (though YMMV on that one).

Lots of characters I liked to see again in the Apollo Justice arc but now I'm not as certain it's an "arc".
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Well, when I first saw this, I didnt know, what to acutally think of this.

First: YAY! PHOENIX IS BACK! (and rising from the ashes *shot*)
Second: NOOO! Poor Polly!
Third: Hmm, will this game even be released here?

If this AND PW vs PL comes here, I sure as hell will grab a 3DS, but not for PW vs PL alone...
It sure is nice to acutally see something of the game but, I feel like Capcom is getting more and more Japan only. (except for fighters, RE and Monster Hunter...)

Would be nice, if we could have more than 5 cases and then involve Polly somehow.
Kinda sad, that he got a new assistant as well, seeing Maya again sure woulda been nice. Perhaps in an other case, where she gets arrested for suspicion, becomes kidnapped, [s]a victim[/s] or whatever.

That the new prosecutor is going to be Payne´s brother sure wasn´t that big of a surprise.
I wonder, what he will be like.
First unsure and unsafe and then eff Phoenix up?

Well, I sure as hell like Phoenix´s vest.

Let´s see, what will happen in the future...
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Color me silly if I'm wrong, but isn't that an archery glove? I'm pretty sure that my cousins have glove just like that in their hunting gear.

New Girl + Moon Motif + Archery Glove = Artemis? Nice pun off of Apollo if that's her name.


If that's the case and her last name is Blind, I have a sneaking suspicion that Capcom looked at my stories before the Objection Archive went down. :yuusaku:

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OW! I was just kidding! Sheesh.

Anyway, this is quite, interesting to say the least.

Speaking from a personal perspective (and I know some people will agree), I am disappointed that Apollo is not our protagonist. There are some things that writers can leave to the imagination of the fans. The background of a major character in the series is not one of them. I just hope they realize that they're not going to get away with a full retcon, and at least give characters like Apollo, Trucy, and Lamirior some concrete closure.

Now, I'm not going to get into what I feel is odd about Phoenix being the protagonist, as the point has already been repeated many times. My only contention is that even if they used Phoenix as the protagonist to rope in new fans, they're making it harder on themselves to write the story and keep it interesting. What new challenges can he not foresee if not even disbarment could shake his resolve? Answering that question is not easy for any writer. That's not to say it can't be done, but it is far more difficult than exploring the past and motivations of a character who has a blank slate (Apollo). The writers made their job more complicated, and they really didn't have to.

I also have mixed feelings about the new assistant (if she is new, I still have a suspicion/hope that she's Trucy). When you make a new character that fills the role of an established character, you have to answer one question: Why? What reason is there for Maya not to be there? The article said she was important to the overall plot. Okay, then why not make her a recurring witness or a client who has ties to the final case? That being said, I'm not a mind reader. If Capcom has a good reason for this new character to exist, then I'll have no complaints.

Now, for something a bit more positive.
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I'm a bit interested in the lower right corner of this page. It's looking something similar to Simon Says with smiley faces. Maybe it's some sort of new mechanic for the court, like Apollo's bracelet?


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Famitsu has just three screenshots, but they hint at some new gameplay systems. Like Layton vs Ace Attorney, the game will have fully 3D characters. It appears that you'll be able to select to give certain facial expressions during testimony, as there are facial expression icons on the lower screen.


This could be very interesting. It looks like a simplified version of the mechanic used in LA Noir (I say simplified because I'm not sure how well the 3DS could handle expressions like LA Noir did). I'm very interested to see what the system actually entails.

So, overall, Capcom made some interesting decisions. It's only a matter of time before we know where they went with them, for better or for worse.
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I admit, I'm conflicted! On one hand, hooray! GS5 is actually happening! New game! Fun fun fun! On the other hand, I'm really disappointed that they didn't use Apollo. He had so much potential! And his game had so many dangling plots! Unless they somehow miraculously resolve them in this game, I'm beginning to have my doubts that they're ever going to address them. :larry: I can't say I'm surprised at all, though.

My current hope is that Apollo and Trucy are major recurring characters, perhaps about as prevalent as Larry was in the original trilogy. I mean, one works at his firm and the other is his teenage daughter. Making them not appear at all would be rather forced. :yogi: Similar situation with Klavier and Ema.

I like the design of the new assistant! It's rather cute, and she's reminds me of Lynne from Ghost Trick. She also looks somewhat older than the previous assistants, which makes me hopeful that she won't be Genki Girl V.5. Moreover, it looks like she's a defense attorney! Makes me wonder if she's going to be more like Mia than Maya. Her design also makes me wonder if she has a connection to Trucy and Thalassa, seeing as they all have a bit of a crescent moon thing going on... Hmm... :yuusaku:
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Im still on a mobile phone browser (cr still wont come up on the computer) so I cant go find and quote whoever said this, but someone mentioned that Phoenix cant use all the same expressions he did in 1-3 after becoming the always calm, generally badass character he was in 4. This is really super important. Despite being someone who wanted Apollo there, i think this direction has real potential. But I dont just want to see phoenix's maturity on the looks alone. We need to see it in his character. So instead of the "sweating and freaking out face" during a tense moment, he should use the hobo phoenix "anakin skywalker death stare" he does so well in 4. Things like that. If theres no development it wont he interesting playing him.

On the looks side, the phoenix redesign is genius. He for some reason really reminds me of Benjamin Franklin. Maybe because hes a little more pudgy than before. And its awesome well play a realistically aged lawyer for a change!
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This is such kick ass news. I'm really excited for this game, although I'm a little disappointed their transitioning from the signature art style to simply 3D models. At least it might look a bit more lively, but Apollo Justice's art was amazing and I wish they had kept that. Speaking of Apollo Justice, I'm kind of disappointed this game wasn't about him; given that his game seemed to mostly revolve around Phoenix's career, it's almost like his whole existence was as an expendable character for Phoenix to use and then just make the games about him again.

By the way, did anybody else notice the similarities between Phoenix's outfit in this game and Edgeworth's? They're basically the same except Phoenix's has a white vest instead of black, a red/pinkish tie instead of a cravat, and of course a blue jacket and pants as opposed to Edgeworth's red. I'm putting money on Edgeworth dying some time before this game and that being a nod to his legacy, but even if that's not the case I'm sure the outfit design is based on Edgeworth's (maybe just because Phoenix really respects him, given his change of heart and how he's the reason Phoenix is a lawyer in the first place).
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Well... I didn't expect news of AA5 that soon... but I'm happy to see that the game will be released... and I like the new look of Phoenix... and that girl it looks like the girl from Ghost Trick {Lynne I think is the name}... :shoe:
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I can't believe it, this is looking to be an amazing game right from the beginning!
The new design for Phoenix, Payne's brother, lass in yellow.. Wow, crazy stuff man.

I can't tell properly, as I am on my phone viewing this, but is the said yellow Luna lady wearing an attorney badge in the screenshot of her in the defendant lobby? Because it looks like something is there :) can't wait until TGS now! :shoe:
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Since it is in 3d models instead of sprites I wonder if it will have a walking around feature like the AAI games.
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As this is for 3DS, whats the likelihood of it being released in Europe? I think pretty good, all the AA have been released here so far (and AAI as well).
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I am literally speechless. This is the best news I have ever heard about anything. :acro:
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As this is for 3DS, whats the likelihood of it being released in Europe? I think pretty good, all the AA have been released here so far (and AAI as well).

AAI2 hasn't been localised yet...
But I imagine they would release this, if they release Layton vs gyakuten over here. Here is to hoping :shoe:
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OH GOD

IT IS HAPPENING

IT FINALLY IS HAPPENING

TvT

WE ARE BACK IN BUSINESS BABY!!!

Literal tears of joy running down my cheeks. I'm such a fanboy.
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OH GOD

IT IS HAPPENING

IT FINALLY IS HAPPENING

TvT

WE ARE BACK IN BUSINESS BABY!!!

Literal tears of joy running down my cheeks. I'm such a fanboy.


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It's always fun seeing all the old faces pop back in when we get major news like this.

It's weird thinking that it's been over 5 years since the last "main" entry of the series. But yeah, echoing the mixed feelings many are having over this; on the one hand it's great to see the series continuing and given that it's a "numbered" sequel we're far more likely to get it. Character design is also nice, Phoenix has a simple yet elegant redesign and Payne's bro looks like he might even given Winston a run for his money in smugness.

On the other hand the 3D is fairly unappealing and I can't help but worry that Capcom is going to try and please everyone and spread the game too thin, much like what happened with AJ and (AAI1 I'd argue). We've got 6 games worth of characters now and excessive cameos can really bog down murder mysteries. Disappointed that Apollo isn't featured so far, but being an important npc might help give him the development he needs.

I guess we'll get a better impression with more scans and TGS, but despite my misgivings if AAI2 was as good as I've heard Enshiro should be a fine helmsman for bringing AA back.

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MYSTIC MAYA WHERE ARE YOU?! :payne:


Presumably, she's busy being the Master of Kurain.

As for Apollo, I once saw someone jokingly post that no one likes him, not even Capcom. I guess there was a nugget of truth in that after all... :gant:
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On the other hand the 3D is fairly unappealing and I can't help but worry that Capcom is going to try and please everyone and spread the game too thin, much like what happened with AJ and (AAI1 I'd argue). We've got 6 games worth of characters now and excessive cameos can really bog down murder mysteries. Disappointed that Apollo isn't featured so far, but being an important npc might help give him the development he needs.



This.

This cannot be over stated.

Excluding those court folks. Most cases have 5 case specific characters. One's the victim, one's the murderer. That's two new characters. The remainder often go 2 Witnesses, and the Defendant, who may or may not be new or returning. Mysteries live and die off new characters. (Hence why CR has the OC contest, we know and embrace the concept of original characters, cannon or otherwise). If the Witnesses and Defendant are say… Maggey, Butz, and Maya… well. There's no mystery. It's the new face that gone dun it.

Considering GS5 has Phoenix and Apollo era characters that are over due for a reappearance, plus I wouldn't put it past Edgeworth characters showing up.

That's…

That's a LOT of cameo characters pounding on the doors to be let in. The mechanics may be awesome, but I don't know if the game will have original enough stories to keep us going.
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Thats why I think it would be truly shocking if it was actually one of the older returning characters that did it (and not that they were framed). What about mind control?
I guess we kinda had that with the spirit channelling thing in 3-5....
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The girl is Apollo's long lost half-sister, Artemis!

On a more serious note, Apollo's name in Japanese, Odoroki Housuke, has nothing to do with the sun. :<... Apollo is never going to get his own game, is he? ; - ;

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The Verge translated an interview with Eshiro and Yamazaki in Famitsu that goes more in-depth on the game. To avoid clogging up that single news post, I've made a new topic for it.
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No Shu Takumi!?!?! The series is now dead to me.

Huddini wrote:

And Shu Takumi isn't involved at all...but the AAI producer guy is...so I have even lower expectations now.

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It's not so nice seeing Phoenix Wright back in action with Shu Takumi out of the picture,


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I don't understand the few bits of Eshiro hate going on. AAI was amazing and just as good quality as Takumi's work. The only thing I can think of to substantiate such a thing is the AAI series is different to normal and therefore not as good (which is a weak reason).
I'm just as excited for this as I would have been if Takumi was involved.

I love AAI, but I understand the complaints...

I think they would have a much warmer reaction to Eshiro if they had played GK2, tho xP


Whoa, there's no signs of AAI hate in any of the posts you quoted...yet x )

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In your opinion, AAI was amazing. In my opinion, AAI was utter garbage. It completely bored me by the time I got done finishing the first case and got started on the second case, and that was only the flash demo that Capcom had on its site. That's the only time an AA game has turned me off from playing right from the beginning.

The pitiful quality production of the music overall completely defeated the point of having new major iterations of music per every AA game. The characterization of a few of the characters (mainly Edgeworth himself for me), was annoying, to say the least. The music instrumentations regarding Edgeworth's themes do not even reflect his character.

The only good thing that the AAI series had going for it was its enhanced, but new and refreshing gameplay (using logic+walking around in scenes to find clues) IMO. The cases themselves were pretty ok from what I hear, but the overall plot and direction of the story felt like it was clearly lacking and gave me no particular interest in trying to play it all the way through.

But that's just me though...The writing did not FEEL particularly top-notch compared to what Shu came up with to me...I mean look what they've done to Phoenix now, they made him a lawyer with the air of PW-era characterization that completely contradicts his personality/look from AJ. That's just judging from the in-game screenshots where you can see PW's face looking goofy. My mind will change once (and if) I get my hands on this though and can make a fairer judgement/assessment. These are just my first impressions.


I remain skeptical at the moment, but maybe the sequel will turn out so good now because I have very low expectations for it :P
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Thats why I think it would be truly shocking if it was actually one of the older returning characters that did it (and not that they were framed). What about mind control?
I guess we kinda had that with the spirit channelling thing in 3-5....


Yeah, but who would the writers be willing to send off to the electric chair? I can imagine DeKiller… as a victim. The only other Phoenix era characters who 'might' commit murder and would be something of a surprise would be Angel Starr and Jake Marshal. Maybe Valant from the Apollo games, but he's too tied up in Apollo's and Trucy's back story. Everyone else is either too good, too stupid, or too dead to commit murder. There might be someone from Ace Attorney Investigations 2, but since I've yet to be spoiled there I can't make a comment.
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On the other hand the 3D is fairly unappealing and I can't help but worry that Capcom is going to try and please everyone and spread the game too thin, much like what happened with AJ and (AAI1 I'd argue). We've got 6 games worth of characters now and excessive cameos can really bog down murder mysteries. Disappointed that Apollo isn't featured so far, but being an important npc might help give him the development he needs.



This.

This cannot be over stated.

Excluding those court folks. Most cases have 5 case specific characters. One's the victim, one's the murderer. That's two new characters. The remainder often go 2 Witnesses, and the Defendant, who may or may not be new or returning. Mysteries live and die off new characters. (Hence why CR has the OC contest, we know and embrace the concept of original characters, cannon or otherwise). If the Witnesses and Defendant are say… Maggey, Butz, and Maya… well. There's no mystery. It's the new face that gone dun it.

Considering GS5 has Phoenix and Apollo era characters that are over due for a reappearance, plus I wouldn't put it past Edgeworth characters showing up.

That's…

That's a LOT of cameo characters pounding on the doors to be let in. The mechanics may be awesome, but I don't know if the game will have original enough stories to keep us going.


Honestly, if there needs to be cameos, I believe it should be characters who would help to drive the plot or need their loose ends tied up for their stories, like I feel should be done with Apollo. Honestly, I originally enjoyed the cameos in AAI to an extent, but the more gratuitous it got, the more grating it got. Honestly, the way Oldbag and Larry were treated in the final case really made me want to smash my system against a wall. People may argue against me on this, but I did like the way Ema's cameo was handled in that game. Keep it short, and if you're gonna stay longer, it better not drive from the story. That said, I want new characters. It's not much of a mystery to figure out who did it when the only new faces are the person you're defending and the suspect in question.
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Man...that looks dull...this actually makes me worried for KH3 (since that team worked on the battle system)


I feel the same
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OH MY GOD OH MY GOD THANK YOU GOD OH GOD
HELL YEAH BABY! OH YEA! WHOS BACK? GUESS WHOS BACK? WHOS THAT PHOENIX? THATS RIGHT! ITS PHOENIX WRIGHT BITCHES! OH GAWD SO SEXAH I THOUGHT I WAS GONNA dIE 8D
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I love the arts! love them with all my heart! sure there are a lots of criticism in my cup but AWESOME!!. I am happy that Phoenix came back as a lawyer because he doesn't deserve to be a hobo(Sorry I am not as much as sad about Apollo not returning as protagonist,I am sure there will be another ace attorney 6 with him being the main character!ha ha ha *shot*) I consider his attitude with Klavier out of character..but mistakes happens right?

You guys have no idea how sad I was finding out that he became a hobo(like a completely new dark person in comparison to his cuteness).. he is a savior who rescued his friend's life that are like almost worse than death ..He did not deserve to be a hobo at all(but I understand that was to put the audience in shock and give the story a hooking twist)..SO FOR THAT I AM SOOO HAPPY HE RISED AGAIN FROM HIS ASHES!!

If I were to give my cents from "judging things wrongly by cover", Maya,Apollo,Trucy,Edgeworth should make appearance, they should redo the 3d model or just use 2d D:

Lastly and more importantly Shu Takumi....
I am kind of scared that there is no talk of his involvement....I know he is working on PwVSPl..but Shu Takumi IS the craftsman of these beautiful characters and story..If he is not involve..It might well be the same thing as Phoenix being disbarred..BUT WE DONT KNOW THAT YET! I AM JUST GLAD that he is not a hobo anymore.

...hmmm....Edgeworth had speciality with chess..wonder if Phoenix will have specialty with poker...
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Wooster wrote:
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On the other hand the 3D is fairly unappealing and I can't help but worry that Capcom is going to try and please everyone and spread the game too thin, much like what happened with AJ and (AAI1 I'd argue). We've got 6 games worth of characters now and excessive cameos can really bog down murder mysteries. Disappointed that Apollo isn't featured so far, but being an important npc might help give him the development he needs.



This.

This cannot be over stated.

Excluding those court folks. Most cases have 5 case specific characters. One's the victim, one's the murderer. That's two new characters. The remainder often go 2 Witnesses, and the Defendant, who may or may not be new or returning. Mysteries live and die off new characters. (Hence why CR has the OC contest, we know and embrace the concept of original characters, cannon or otherwise). If the Witnesses and Defendant are say… Maggey, Butz, and Maya… well. There's no mystery. It's the new face that gone dun it.

Considering GS5 has Phoenix and Apollo era characters that are over due for a reappearance, plus I wouldn't put it past Edgeworth characters showing up.

That's…

That's a LOT of cameo characters pounding on the doors to be let in. The mechanics may be awesome, but I don't know if the game will have original enough stories to keep us going.

Yeah, I agree with this. One of my complaints with GK2 was the overwhelming number of returning characters. (My other complaint was that you'd end up with a dozen characters, but only 2 or 3 would actually be participating in the convo at all. I don't think it'll really be a problem in GS, tho, since court limits the number of characters, and there usually aren't too many characters at once in investigation locations.)

I'm not sure how many 'cameos' there will actually be in GS5. It was easy to stick them in with AAI and GK2 because they could just stick a minisprite in the background, but with GS, I think it'd be hard to do it in any subtle way.

GK2 had a ton of cameos. My hope is that they got it out of their system with that ^^'
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I'm putting money on Edgeworth dying some time before this game and that being a nod to his legacy,


:beef: Don't even say that in jest! :larry:

(I seriously doubt it though.)
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