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Every time I look back at that silhouette now, I can't help but see either a bald monk or a hooded nun... and speaking of "hooded nun", I just had this incredible idea. What if it was a Fey who was prosecutor? A distant cousin, so to speak? It'd actually give Maya a reason to come visit. The Master of Kurain is meant to be a political figure as well as the leader of the clan.


No! No, please, Capcom, Takumi, whoever, stay away from the Fey clan. They stole the spotlight for two of the three games, we are DONE with them. The only revelation you could possibly still make that wouldn't be annoying is... it turns out their powers ARE fake and everyone just suffers from hallucinations when they 'use their powers', which turns out to be nothing but discreetly burning a type of halucinogenic herb.

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I found that Edgeworth made sense. They needed a different prosecutor there, one that didn't mind helping defuse the mess.

Yes, definitely. I didn't mind Edgeworth at all. Pearl, on the other hand...

I really do love to see characters return, but it has to be in a meaningful way. The same goes for Maya.

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Right? That's exactly what I thought!
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I'm seriously wondering how they would reintroduce Maya without her looking too similar to Leifa. I mean, the girl's so similar to her, so unless they can't use these similarities as parallels instead, it could be a somewhat poor design choice.


To be honest, it wouldn't surprise me if we found out in the middle of the game that Leifa is Maya's relative or something of the sort.

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I like the push that Spirit Mediums isnt locked into Spirit Channeling, but rather multiple ways, with this whole Water Mirror being the central focus.

Its a nice way to re-introduce the whole Spirit aspect from the past without shoving it in your face.


That mirror mechanism is far-fetched as hell... not necessarily bad (I just hope it is more complex than the Mood Matrix), but still far-fetched. As I said,
AA has always been weird, but in the previous games, we had something a little bit closer to a real courtroom.

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Also people are forgetting that Apollo's text is hinting that the prosecutor is closer to him than it is Wright


Dunno, not necessarily. It could be someone both Phoenix and Apollo know, could be even someone who Apollo has only heard of from Phoenix.

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But that's the thing: they can't really expand on Maya's character anymore. She got three games, with two of them putting heavy emphasis on the Fey clan and having Maya grow. She starts off as a bit of a cryer, but working with Phoenix made her a bit tougher. She learned to deal with things, including her mother's death and took her place as the next Master of Kurain. She had her arc.


This pretty much sums up my opinion. Maya could appear as an adult and maybe be presented as someone who has changed a bit, matured and shit... but aside from that, there's nothing new that could be added to her character. But fans don't want innovation, they apparently want the same thing over and over again at the expense of freshness and quality.
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I think we can conclude one thing from the trailer: if phoenix decided right there and then to defend, then he can't have traveled to the country for that purpose.
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henke37 wrote:
I think we can conclude one thing from the trailer: if phoenix decided right there and then to defend, then he can't have traveled to the country for that purpose.

All it tells us is that he didn't expect to have to defend his tour guide. (If he even expected that, then... heh.) It still leaves in the option that he went there to do something with the legal system. Why else would they make a premise of "let's send Phoenix to another country to revolutionize their courts"?

Nothing for nothin', but I'm not gonna bother with arguing whether or not Maya will appear. I'm just trying to figure out if she appears, she'd need a good reason. Pearl showed up in DD for the heck of it, but they're gonna need to be a bit more reserved when it comes to Maya.
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I think we can conclude one thing from the trailer: if phoenix decided right there and then to defend, then he can't have traveled to the country for that purpose.

All it tells us is that he didn't expect to have to defend his tour guide. (If he even expected that, then... heh.) It still leaves in the option that he went there to do something with the legal system. Why else would they make a premise of "let's send Phoenix to another country to revolutionize their courts"?

Wasn't Phoenix surprised to not see anyone at the defense bench and needing the judge to explain him about the mirror and the lack of defense attorneys? Doesn't sound like Phoenix knew much about the country's legal system beforehand.
Besides, the premise of "let's send Phoenix to another country to revolutionize their courts" doesn't at all say anything about Phoenix's intention. He could be going there for vacation (or similar) and ended up getting sucked into a series of events which leads to him revolutionizing this court system.
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Indeed. For all we know Maya could have gotten a ticket offering free noodles due to her position as the master and Phoenix is just her plus one.
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Maybe Maya is aware of all that is happening in Kurain Kingdom and knows Phoenix would be the one to handle it, but can't do anything about it with her being master and all. So she gets into contact with Bokuto who could have invited Phoenix under the guise of "Hey, visit our country for free!" when in actuality, he hopes to show him that there are no defense attorneys. Then he winds up getting accused for murder himself without anyone to represent him, but that's really all Phoenix needs to see. And maybe somewhere down the line, Maya will come visit to check up on Nick. Maybe in the last case where the moment calls for a Fey, like with Pearl. I wonder what the developers will come up with.

Also wanted to bring up that I watched the rewatched video of Leyfa doing her dance again and I got to wondering. With the silhoutted picture, the butterfly in the pool and in the last scene, and Apollo's words...I wonder if she has previous ties with Apollo (I'll leave that up for discussion, because I myself haven't beaten Apollo Justice yet).
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Maybe Maya is aware of all that is happening in Kurain Kingdom and knows Phoenix would be the one to handle it, but can't do anything about it with her being master and all. So she gets into contact with Bokuto who could have invited Phoenix under the guise of "Hey, visit our country for free!" when in actuality, he hopes to show him that there are no defense attorneys. Then he winds up getting accused for murder himself without anyone to represent him, but that's really all Phoenix needs to see. And maybe somewhere down the line, Maya will come visit to check up on Nick. Maybe in the last case where the moment calls for a Fey, like with Pearl. I wonder what the developers will come up with.

Unlikely, since during the demo, Bokto clearly says how he isn't as bad as a defense attorney and doesn't want to be put on the same level as them. And he shows a lot of distrust towards defense attorneys.
With that disposition, I doubt Bokto would agree with such a plan
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Maybe Maya is aware of all that is happening in Kurain Kingdom and knows Phoenix would be the one to handle it, but can't do anything about it with her being master and all. So she gets into contact with Bokuto who could have invited Phoenix under the guise of "Hey, visit our country for free!" when in actuality, he hopes to show him that there are no defense attorneys. Then he winds up getting accused for murder himself without anyone to represent him, but that's really all Phoenix needs to see. And maybe somewhere down the line, Maya will come visit to check up on Nick. Maybe in the last case where the moment calls for a Fey, like with Pearl. I wonder what the developers will come up with.

Unlikely, since during the demo, Bokto clearly says how he isn't as bad as a defense attorney and doesn't want to be put on the same level as them. And he shows a lot of distrust towards defense attorneys.
With that disposition, I doubt Bokto would agree with such a plan


Unless Maya is the mastermind behind this case and MADE Bokto be picked as the defendant.

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Maybe Maya is aware of all that is happening in Kurain Kingdom and knows Phoenix would be the one to handle it, but can't do anything about it with her being master and all. So she gets into contact with Bokuto who could have invited Phoenix under the guise of "Hey, visit our country for free!" when in actuality, he hopes to show him that there are no defense attorneys. Then he winds up getting accused for murder himself without anyone to represent him, but that's really all Phoenix needs to see. And maybe somewhere down the line, Maya will come visit to check up on Nick. Maybe in the last case where the moment calls for a Fey, like with Pearl. I wonder what the developers will come up with.

Unlikely, since during the demo, Bokto clearly says how he isn't as bad as a defense attorney and doesn't want to be put on the same level as them. And he shows a lot of distrust towards defense attorneys.
With that disposition, I doubt Bokto would agree with such a plan

Being put on trial for murder, he could be thinking at the last minute, "Oh great, what exactly did I agree to? Can I really trust this man?" Second guessing himself.
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The prosecutor is OBVIOUSLY Robin Newman. After all, the butterfly just oozes femininity. Calling it now.

..wait, I called the prosecutor before? Uhh... then... well... crap.
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I've always felt like Maya returning shouldnt happen unless they do something new to the character, rather than a DD pearl cameo. I'm glad, for instance, that they didnt put Maya into Pearl's role in DD. I think her current story has been done since T&T and I dont think she has much to add to the normal AA game anymore.

Having said that, the developers must have chosen this setting to include her in a big way. And while in normal corcumstances I'd tend to agree with CatMuto and others that she should be out of the game or in a minimal role, in this case i hope she comes back in a big way because its the only way to justify the setting and premise. If she isnt a central part of the game, I'm going to wonder "why the heck did you call the country Kurain? Why not another name? It would be like setting a Star Wars movie on a planet full of Skywalker family members and luke doesnt show up. I personally feel the kingdom of kurain is a little to on the nose, but now that the developers have done it I feel like giving Maya a little cameo is going to feel cheaper than well, a cheap maya cameo would in a japanifornia game.

But like i said, if theyre going down this road they need to be thinking of ways to alter her character. I dont think she'll be the prosecutor or anything, but I'd love to see her conflicting with Nick on something - something to make their relationship more complex. Its been 8 years, and Im sure Mayas run as Kurain master has made her more of a leader, which might mean she'll be more likely to not just be the assistant like normal.

They could always kill her off, too, as long as it was well done and important to the story. Back in 2012 when we saw the courtroom explosion and no apollo, i thought it might be interesting from a narrative level to kill him off, even though i love apollo. As long as its important to the story and adds to the character I think a good character death can be good for the character. Heck, I'd be fine with them killing Phoenix off if he wasnt the only reason the games were getting localized. Although you never know, with the "even if mr wright isnt here" stuff.

Maybe apollo faces against Iris who is channeling Phoenix as the prosecutor while Maya channels manfred Von karma to be Apollo's assistant

So yeah, i think because of the developers choice Maya needs to be in a big role, but she needs to get a bunch of character development for it to feel worth it.
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Having said that, the developers must have chosen this setting to include her in a big way. And while in normal corcumstances I'd tend to agree with CatMuto and others that she should be out of the game or in a minimal role, in this case i hope she comes back in a big way because its the only way to justify the setting and premise. If she isnt a central part of the game, I'm going to wonder "why the heck did you call the country Kurain? Why not another name? It would be like setting a Star Wars movie on a planet full of Skywalker family members and luke doesnt show up. I personally feel the kingdom of kurain is a little to on the nose, but now that the developers have done it I feel like giving Maya a little cameo is going to feel cheaper than well, a cheap maya cameo would in a japanifornia game.

So yeah, i think because of the developers choice Maya needs to be in a big role, but she needs to get a bunch of character development for it to feel worth it.

Yes, this is why I think Maya is going to be in this game and she's going to have a big role. Perhaps she'll first appear in the 2nd case and be one of the main characters driving forces behind the plot, or something like that.

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Ummm... they'd bring back Maya just to kill her off? Yeah, I don't think so. The fanbase would kind of explode. Heck, I don't even care about her very much but even I'd be ticked off.
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It's also important to remember that as far as demos go, what we've seen is only representative of the first case, and not the actual first case. DD had an investigation demo with a scene that didn't even exist in the final game, and the store demo that was released purely had Phoenix defending the trail from the start, rather than Athena in the full game.

This isn't just a simple matter of extrapolating plot, but extrapolating it from information that by all means could itself be a placeholder or even abridged (to hide spoilery details). It's improbable to even guess who is doing what for even the first case.

Here is some food for thought; It is actually entirely possible that Maya could be introduced during the first episode. How suddenly becomes a problem as the details of the first case are subject to inaccuracies as stated above.
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The series does have a tradition of trailers and demos fudging details to make the ride smoother. The DD and GT demos in particular have some major reworking.
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So yeah, i think because of the developers choice Maya needs to be in a big role, but she needs to get a bunch of character development for it to feel worth it.

I don't think she needs "a bunch" of character development, but a nod here and there to how she's grown would be welcome. I'd like to see Maya be a person in charge for once; to see her bossing Nick around outside of a gag. Heck, have her at one point stand up to Leyfa's face to show who's top medium and somehow get away with it.

...Huh, that's an interesting idea: the two Kurains may be at war, or at least under high tensions, particularly regarding the identity of this "founder of Kurain". If true, all the more reason to bring Maya into this game.

Alright, so I concede that it seems like Phoenix doesn't know crap of what he's doing in that court. Surprise, surprise. I figure it's because it's the demo that they cut out exactly how Phoenix learns to use the Water Mirror. If someone were to explain all that to him to his face, I doubt he'd go "Oh, okay. Thx" and get right into it. (Though, the final game might have the option for that response anyway.) Then again, if it's Princess Leyfa who tells him, he'd be wise to not argue with her on realism. And if it's actually Bokto, then wow, how does he know? Is this not his first time in court?

Alright, if I know my plot devices well, then I should be on the right track with at least one of these points. Let's see how things turn out. So much hype.
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And if it's actually Bokto, then wow, how does he know? Is this not his first time in court?

Well, he is a tour guide, right? It wouldn't be too far-fetched for him to know about the mirror, especially if it's such an integral part of the court system
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Having said that, the developers must have chosen this setting to include her in a big way.


Or they did it, because they want fans to flock and buy the game because of the familiar name. :ron:

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Re: Familiar Name above. Either that, or they couldn't think up a name that sounded 'foreign' enough again without being a blatant copy. (Hazakurain)

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Well, he is a tour guide, right? It wouldn't be too far-fetched for him to know about the mirror, especially if it's such an integral part of the court system


"And here we are in the Courtroom of our beloved country, Kurain. The Water Mirror, in the middle of the courtroom, is an essential part of the system; it can show us the final moments of the victim, giving us vital evidence (. . .) And we are fortunate, there is a case going on right now. If we remain silent, we may see the Water Mirror - and verdict onto the defendant - given in front of our eyes."
And if it's a death verdict, that's a really awkward guide.

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...Huh, that's an interesting idea: the two Kurains may be at war, or at least under high tensions, particularly regarding the identity of this "founder of Kurain". If true, all the more reason to bring Maya into this game.

Now that's an interesting idea. It's actually a fairly fitting idea, and in itself explains the setting exactly.
... In fact, I'm actually rather on board with this idea. Certainly would tie off the whole "Maya being absent for 8 years"-issue quite nicely. If anything, that kind of became its own arc.

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Re: Familiar Name above. Either that, or they couldn't think up a name that sounded 'foreign' enough again without being a blatant copy. (Hazakurain)

You might want to at-least pretend that you're paying attention to the franchise. That word doesn't exist.
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(Hazakurain)

You might want to at-least pretend that you're paying attention to the franchise. That word doesn't exist.

Yes, good point, it's Hazakura Temple. No Hazakurain exists in the franchise...at this time, anyway.
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And Hazakura certainly isn't a made up word.
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Huh...interesting... I guess I should have known, after all it's a name in the Ace Attorney series, and what do Ace Attorney names all have in common...?
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"And here we are in the Courtroom of our beloved country, Kurain. The Water Mirror, in the middle of the courtroom, is an essential part of the system; it can show us the final moments of the victim, giving us vital evidence (. . .) And we are fortunate, there is a case going on right now. If we remain silent, we may see the Water Mirror - and verdict onto the defendant - given in front of our eyes."
And if it's a death verdict, that's a really awkward guide.

I never said that it was part of the tour. But to be a tour guide, you'll still have to be very familiar with the town/kingdom.
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...Huh, that's an interesting idea: the two Kurains may be at war, or at least under high tensions, particularly regarding the identity of this "founder of Kurain". If true, all the more reason to bring Maya into this game.

Now that's an interesting idea. It's actually a fairly fitting idea, and in itself explains the setting exactly.
... In fact, I'm actually rather on board with this idea. Certainly would tie off the whole "Maya being absent for 8 years"-issue quite nicely. If anything, that kind of became its own arc.


No, that idea actually doesn't make sense because one was Kurain village and the other is apparently a Kurain kingdom/country. :ron:
Doesn't matter if the current Master is living in the Kurain village, the country still would have more power and be all, "You wanna uprise, Kurain village Master? I could squash you like a bug, Pfflbt!"

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Yes, good point, it's Hazakura Temple. No Hazakurain exists in the franchise...at this time, anyway.


...Maybe I'm remembering it wrong, but wasn't it Hazakurain in the Japanese version?

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...Maybe I'm remembering it wrong, but wasn't it Hazakurain in the Japanese version?

I'm actually not sure where it comes from. However, nothing I can find seems to actually have this word. It doesn't even seem to be in any transcripts. These forums have it though as a subforum title, which sure confuses the matter.

Edit: The more and more I look for the name, the more and more confused I get. I can find references here, and yet not much else for it. Not even the Japanese OST has it (still referring to it as Hazakura). I'm actually now wondering if anybody else can clear this up. Although I am rather suspect that it doesn't show up in places I would have otherwise expected it to. The word certainly could be constructed in Japanese (if I'm interpreting it correctly), but I just simply can't find it's origin. Do both names exist in the Japanese version? Because that'll be what's throwing me off.

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No, that idea actually doesn't make sense because one was Kurain village and the other is apparently a Kurain kingdom/country. :ron:
Doesn't matter if the current Master is living in the Kurain village, the country still would have more power and be all, "You wanna uprise, Kurain village Master? I could squash you like a bug, Pfflbt!"

Not every feud is an uprising. It's also not the first time political power struggles has been played with in AA (notably, AAI & 2 liked to dabble with it).

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One of the forums here is called Hazakurain.

Personally, I haven't seen the term anywhere else... I just assumed it was a portmanteau of Hazakura and Kurain.

It was once a source of confusion for me in fanfiction. :bellboy:
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...Maybe I'm remembering it wrong, but wasn't it Hazakurain in the Japanese version?

I'm actually not sure where it comes from. However, nothing I can find seems to actually have this word. It certainly doesn't seem to be in any transcripts. The problem is, it doesn't seem to show up in anything Japanese related. These forums have it though as a subforum title, which sure confuses the matter.

Edit: The more and more I look for the name, the more and more confused I get. I can find references here, and yet nowhere else for it. Not even the Japanese OST has it (still referring to it as Hazakura). I'm actually now wondering if anybody else can clear this up. Although I am rather suspect that it doesn't show up in places I would have otherwise expected it to.

Hazakurain (葉桜院) is the original name of what is called the Hazakura Temple in the English version. In (院) is a suffix often used in (Buddhist) temple names in Japan. So literally, Hazakurain is the "Temple of Cherry Blossom Leaves".

A reader fluent in Japanese would read the name as Hazakura-In (a cut-off between sakura (zakura) and in, so they might not notice that the word Kurain is also hidden within the temple name.

Hazakurain is also the name Iris is referred to in her trial for convenience (HAZAKURAIN Ayame, or Ayame of the Hazakurain)
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Ah, that explains it, and also why I could never find it properly (not immediately noticing the suffix). And it's so obvious now why that would be there. And that also explains that it most certainly isn't a made up name either; Everything makes sense again. Thanks for the info. (It's funny how adding a hyphen to something instantly makes everything clear.)

That name is actually a rather crafty pun on so many levels.
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whoknowscran wrote:
Edit: The more and more I look for the name, the more and more confused I get. I can find references here, and yet not much else for it. Not even the Japanese OST has it (still referring to it as Hazakura).

Oh, forgot to clear this up, but Hazakurain does appear in the Japanese soundtrack of T&T with that exact title (「葉桜院」).
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Edit: The more and more I look for the name, the more and more confused I get. I can find references here, and yet not much else for it. Not even the Japanese OST has it (still referring to it as Hazakura).

Oh, forgot to clear this up, but Hazakurain does appear in the Japanese soundtrack of T&T with that exact title (「葉桜院」).


Ha. Okay, I see it now.

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And if it's actually Bokto, then wow, how does he know? Is this not his first time in court?

Well, he is a tour guide, right? It wouldn't be too far-fetched for him to know about the mirror, especially if it's such an integral part of the court system

Hey, just because he knows about the mirror doesn't mean he knows how to work it. I was talking about the monologue bit where Nick is explaining the instructions of "how to play". It's not something he'd suddenly come up with out from nowhere, as brilliantly (or not) as he can improvise.

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...Huh, that's an interesting idea: the two Kurains may be at war, or at least under high tensions, particularly regarding the identity of this "founder of Kurain". If true, all the more reason to bring Maya into this game.

Now that's an interesting idea. It's actually a fairly fitting idea, and in itself explains the setting exactly.
... In fact, I'm actually rather on board with this idea. Certainly would tie off the whole "Maya being absent for 8 years"-issue quite nicely. If anything, that kind of became its own arc.


No, that idea actually doesn't make sense because one was Kurain village and the other is apparently a Kurain kingdom/country. :ron:
Doesn't matter if the current Master is living in the Kurain village, the country still would have more power and be all, "You wanna uprise, Kurain village Master? I could squash you like a bug, Pfflbt!"

Don't forget that Kurain Village is just the central capital (if you could call it a capital) of the Fey clan. The bigger picture comes from the "Kurain Channeling Technique", which is its official name.

Someone's going to need to clear up this name fiasco. Just because someone changed "Kurain" to the Japanese variation of it doesn't mean they're in the clear. Likewise, it could run the other way too; perhaps the Kurain technique did indeed start in Japan, but it's hard to prove or otherwise.

Considering that one has scattered influence in Japan, as opposed to the other that has become a country, odds do favor that the Kurain technique began from this country. Still, Ami Fey was definitely Japanese.

I am going to push this conspiracy until it is proven false.
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By the grace of the founder, ul dihara Kurain!

Judge: Ah, a tourist, are you? Appilakke.

"Ul dihara Kurain"? "Appilakke"?! Don't tell me this is some sort of constructed language, which I'm going to refer to as "Kurainese".
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Eshiro himself called it "Kurainese", as referring to this language. It is not Tibetan, so all my research toward such characters were only useful for the sign on Leyfa's back... which may actually have been something else altogether, so actually, it was all useless for our purposes.

Since I have no idea how the localization team will handle this language, I'm referring to the Japanese romanization.

I do, however, recommend using appilakke just to confuse the heck out of your friends. It's such a fun word to say.
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Rubia Ryu the Royal wrote:
Eshiro himself called it "Kurainese", as referring to this language. It is not Tibetan, so all my research toward such characters were only useful for the sign on Leyfa's back... which may actually have been something else altogether, so actually, it was all useless for our purposes.

Since I have no idea how the localization team will handle this language, I'm referring to the Japanese romanization.

I do, however, recommend using appilakke just to confuse the heck out of your friends. It's such a fun word to say.

Oh, heck yeah! That's a good idea!
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Judge: Yes, Your Highness! It is all as you declare.
By the grace of the founder, ul dihara Kurain!

Judge: Ah, a tourist, are you? Appilakke.

"Ul dihara Kurain"? "Appilakke"?! Don't tell me this is some sort of constructed language, which I'm going to refer to as "Kurainese".


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