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I think the pink outfit is some kind of kimono, and the shells are in place of a family crest. Without some other reason to suspect de Killer involvment I think anyone could easily overlook it.
....but who wears a necktie with a kimono?
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GantStare wrote:
Mr. Bear Jew wrote:
Wait, what? Who says this game is set 2 years after AAI?
''Apparently'' the magazine itself, or a programmer. It was stated before on this topic. Might not be accurate though.....
So is this confirmed at all?
Bad Player wrote:
I also find it kind of funny that (it seems) they're going to make 2 GK games before they make the next GS game.
Why do people still seem to be under the misapprehension 'they've been planning/intending a GS5 for years? It might still happen, yes, but the GK2 announcement is hardly a shock, especially since they said in an interview 'we will probably make another one'. (I didn't anticipate it so soon though, but I guess it's awhile till it's actually out.)
GS5 is going to be a very hard product to write, for all the controversial reasons we've argued about ad infinitum. GK series is a safe and easy uncontroversial and non divisive option. We may not like it as much as the main series, but we'll all buy it. GK hardly divided the fanbase, and hopefully GK2 will improve on its weaknesses.
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Ugh, no more Godot PLEASE.
I agree, I'm not a Godot fan and any more would be unnecessary. But you can see the GK series is stacked with cameos, so I wouldn't rule it out.
I wonder what Matsukawa's doing? I supposes she's still in charge in some capacity of the GS franchise in general?
Takumi might only be lured back by a GS/Ghost Trick hybrid. Lots of people profess to wanting a game about Mia for some reason....
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icer wrote:
GS5 is going to be a very hard product to write, for all the controversial reasons we've argued about ad infinitum. GK series is a safe and easy uncontroversial and non divisive option.
You know, come to think of it, I probably won't mind if they didn't make GS5 at all and just went on with the GK series... so long as we're given an idea on wtf happens to the AJ characters at some point. Maybe a GK that crosses over the AJ timeline and beyond? Something like that? That way we're able to move around the controversial issues and still be able to fawn over our beloved AJ characters.
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Not that I'm saying that I don't want GK2, I'm just pointing out that GK's still a spinoff series rather than a continuation.
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Cravat of Doom wrote:
Yes, we do basically know everything about Edgeworth, but they could give us more. Like with Phoenix in T&T, the writers gave him a crapload of more background story when we thought we knew everything about him. And even though it's a spinoff, that doesn't mean the story can't progress or even be relevant to the other games in some way. GK2 will, of course, be a continuation to GK1, so there's room for plot development.
Maybe they can finally explain how Edgeworth managed to leave, in 1-4 (According to JFA), come back in 1-5, and then leave again.
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GantStare wrote:
Cravat of Doom wrote:
Yes, we do basically know everything about Edgeworth, but they could give us more. Like with Phoenix in T&T, the writers gave him a crapload of more background story when we thought we knew everything about him. And even though it's a spinoff, that doesn't mean the story can't progress or even be relevant to the other games in some way. GK2 will, of course, be a continuation to GK1, so there's room for plot development.
Maybe they can finally explain how Edgeworth managed to leave, in 1-4 (According to JFA), come back in 1-5, and then leave again.
Yeah, I always wondered how Edgeworth coped with all this "leaving country-coming back" stuff. Is he using a teleporter? Because, ever since Turnabout Airlines, I'm quite sure he wouldn't be alive anymore if he was really doing all this traveling by plane. And even if, he'd either be comatouse or disturbed to the point that he's reduced to a pathetic little pile of misery, crouching in a corner and whispering "I did it, I did it, it's all my fault, Daddy." (I'm not joking. I'm dead serious, really.)
Nobody with a server phobia of sudden shocks could cope with that many flights in a row. Nobody.
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Neni wrote:
GantStare wrote:
Cravat of Doom wrote:
Yes, we do basically know everything about Edgeworth, but they could give us more. Like with Phoenix in T&T, the writers gave him a crapload of more background story when we thought we knew everything about him. And even though it's a spinoff, that doesn't mean the story can't progress or even be relevant to the other games in some way. GK2 will, of course, be a continuation to GK1, so there's room for plot development.
Maybe they can finally explain how Edgeworth managed to leave, in 1-4 (According to JFA), come back in 1-5, and then leave again.
Yeah, I always wondered how Edgeworth coped with all this "leaving country-coming back" stuff. Is he using a teleporter? Because, ever since Turnabout Airlines, I'm quite sure he wouldn't be alive anymore if he was really doing all this traveling by plane. And even if, he'd either be comatouse or disturbed to the point that he's reduced to a pathetic little pile of misery, crouching in a corner and whispering "I did it, I did it, it's all my fault, Daddy." (I'm not joking. I'm dead serious, really.)
Nobody with a server phobia of sudden shocks could cope with that many flights in a row. Nobody.
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Gerkuman wrote:
why everyone keeps wanting more of him confuses me.
Because it's Edgeworth \o/
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Nii wrote:
Oh, but they did meet face to face (I think? Or was that Phoenix?), just that he didn't know who the "butler" in Engarde's house really was. So maybe meeting him again would make him wonder if he met the guy before?
That, and the logo is right there. Two of them, even; just staring at him! I'm hoping that it will evoke some kind of reaction, even just a small "Doesn't that logo/face look familiar?", if not call him out right there, since he was able to identify DeKiller's involvement from a card Adrian was absently toying with in the Engarde case.
Then again, this is Ace Attorney... If the idea goes completely over Edgeworth's head we could always chalk it up to comic relief. =n=;
That, and the logo is right there. Two of them, even; just staring at him! I'm hoping that it will evoke some kind of reaction, even just a small "Doesn't that logo/face look familiar?", if not call him out right there, since he was able to identify DeKiller's involvement from a card Adrian was absently toying with in the Engarde case.
Then again, this is Ace Attorney... If the idea goes completely over Edgeworth's head we could always chalk it up to comic relief. =n=;
Or to the fact that Edgeworth is obviously autistic and has prosopagnosia.
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Edgy's Twin wrote:
Or to the fact that Edgeworth is obviously autistic and has prosopagnosia.
Dude, not funny.
...I mean, I do have Aspergers and light Prosopagnosia myself (Not being able to recall people who obviously know you for some reason is GODDAMN annoying, I tell you. I barely ever DARE to say anything except "Hi!" when those people approach me.), but Edgey is socially crippled because he was traumatized and subsequently raised by a perfectionist douchebag.
I mean, sure he shows symptoms. He's overly obsessed with a narrow selection of interests (Steel Samurai, Law) and he is easily startled when something doesn't go as he is used too or imagined it to be. And he is socially awkward comes across as rude when he's actually just unsure what to do.
The point, however, is:
He wasn't always like that. (Well, not sure about the Fanboyism, but quite sure about the social stuff, since he did have friends and a good reputation in school)
If it's aquired, rather than predetermined at birth, it's not Autism or Aspergers or anything among those lines.
Not every "tree" is an "oak", you know?
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I THINK I noticed DeKiller there
Characters I want to see again?
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A cameo in AAI 1 isn't enough.
And also it would be nice to see Ema
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icer wrote:
Ghostwriter wrote:
Ugh, no more Godot PLEASE.
I agree, I'm not a Godot fan and any more would be unnecessary. But you can see the GK series is stacked with cameos, so I wouldn't rule it out.
I think an appearance from Godot (let alone Phoenix, Maya, Pearl, Apollo, Trucy) can hardly be called a cameo. I think Larry is as far as they'll go, main character-wise.
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I imagined "Ace Attorney Investigations: Godot's Chronicles" :P
But it was just a silly idea of a Godot fan... (me
)But I also like Edgey so I'm waiting for this game as much as I did for AAI 1 ^^
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TheBaronAndEma wrote:
....but who wears a necktie with a kimono?
Awesome people, that's who.
Also, I'm not sure where the "2 years after AAI" is coming from because I didn't notice that in the interview. Can anyone point it out...?
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Neni wrote:
Edgy's Twin wrote:
Or to the fact that Edgeworth is obviously autistic and has prosopagnosia.
Dude, not funny.
...I mean, I do have Aspergers and light Prosopagnosia myself (Not being able to recall people who obviously know you for some reason is GODDAMN annoying, I tell you. I barely ever DARE to say anything except "Hi!" when those people approach me.), but Edgey is socially crippled because he was traumatized and subsequently raised by a perfectionist douchebag.
I mean, sure he shows symptoms. He's overly obsessed with a narrow selection of interests (Steel Samurai, Law) and he is easily startled when something doesn't go as he is used too or imagined it to be. And he is socially awkward comes across as rude when he's actually just unsure what to do.
The point, however, is:
He wasn't always like that. (Well, not sure about the Fanboyism, but quite sure about the social stuff, since he did have friends and a good reputation in school)
If it's aquired, rather than predetermined at birth, it's not Autism or Aspergers or anything among those lines.
Not every "tree" is an "oak", you know?
People talking about their disabilities, ON MY INTERNET?!?!?
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DoMaya wrote:
Neni wrote:
Edgy's Twin wrote:
Or to the fact that Edgeworth is obviously autistic and has prosopagnosia.
Dude, not funny.
...I mean, I do have Aspergers and light Prosopagnosia myself (Not being able to recall people who obviously know you for some reason is GODDAMN annoying, I tell you. I barely ever DARE to say anything except "Hi!" when those people approach me.), but Edgey is socially crippled because he was traumatized and subsequently raised by a perfectionist douchebag.
I mean, sure he shows symptoms. He's overly obsessed with a narrow selection of interests (Steel Samurai, Law) and he is easily startled when something doesn't go as he is used too or imagined it to be. And he is socially awkward comes across as rude when he's actually just unsure what to do.
The point, however, is:
He wasn't always like that. (Well, not sure about the Fanboyism, but quite sure about the social stuff, since he did have friends and a good reputation in school)
If it's aquired, rather than predetermined at birth, it's not Autism or Aspergers or anything among those lines.
Not every "tree" is an "oak", you know?
People talking about their disabilities, ON MY INTERNET?!?!?
I don't usually go around mentioning it, because I really don't think my life was oh-so-special because of it. I have a slightly weird mindset thanks to this, but that's all. I just thought it would be weird holding this speech without giving the assurance that I know what I'm talking about.
GantStare wrote:
Not to poke fun, but if Edgeworth really did have Autism, we would have noticed in between those 4 games he's in.
Exactly. Well, not necessarily. There's autists who are obvious and then there's people like me, who just come across as strange, but not disabled in any sense. In any case, Edgeworth is clearly traumatized, not autistic.
And I'm gonna stop rambling about this now. Fact is, Edgeworth is most likely not in the Autistic Spectrum. Close, maybe, but not in it. End of Story. Have a nice day.
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This announcement is what convinced me to join the site. However long it may take to get released and US-localized, I can bear through it if I have Court-Records to get my AA fan-fix and let me spew out my AA fan-rambles. Speaking of which, let me start that now!
So, yes, the promise of cameos is verrrry satisfying.
I'll be excited to see any familiar faces that they can fit into the story. (The one that's already been revealed is a totally awesome start!) There are almost no characters I truly dislike. The closest to that is probably...Oldbag. I mean, I like Larry and Lotta and Meekins and plenty other "annoying" characters, but with Oldbag...it's just like...GRRRAAAAHHH, get out of my face, and more importantly, out of Edgey's!! And yet, in a game about Edgeworth, her appearance is inevitable.
So I can deal with it.I'm not, though, holding out for any major appearance by Phoenix. Even if GK2 isn't set a whole "2 years" after AAI, there's only a month-and-a-half window of time between the events of AAI and Phoenix's disbarment. For Edgey's sake, I hope he doesn't have to take such a "large, important case" within a month after AAI's three straight days of insanity -- the poor guy needs some rest.
And if GK2 is set anytime after the disbarment... I just can't see them incorporating that into the AAI plot. AAI is so friendly and fanservicey; it's like the complete flipside of the controversial AJ -- not to mention that, even by its very title, it seems to market itself as separate from the main AA story and its major turn. I wouldn't doubt that some fans are seeing AAI as a nice alternate universe in which to forget about Phoenix's tragedy, and it would dissatisfy them to have GK2 throw it back in their faces. So, I don't think it's a move they're likely to make. It would be interesting, for sure -- a major part of the beauty of the Ace Attorney series, after all, is how surprisingly and powerfully all the events and everyone's lives are able to connect -- and if they continue with the AAI series instead of AJ (although I'm still hoping for a future GS5!) it would be nice to see some more details/closure on
's life/story... buuut... yeah, I'm thinking that GK2 is not the place.I'll be happy with just the sorts of vague nods (well, vague yet blatant at the same time) as were seen in AAI. I thought it was really sweet simply to hear how much Phoenix has influenced and affected Edgeworth in his ways of thinking.
By the way, I second or third or fourth (or whatever we're on) the prediction that the next call-out will be "Checkmate!"
That was literally the first thing that entered my brain when I saw that chess system! I think that kind of system makes a lot of sense. I can totally see Edgey thinking about intellectually cornering an opponent in terms of cornering their pieces in chess. I know nothing about chess, but I'm sure they won't make it too complicated (in fact, I bet they'll make it so dumbed down that real chess enthusiasts will be pulling out their hair in frustration -- heh-heh 
).
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Can someone tell me where the Chess system was explained? And what is it about Edgey's feelings?
It wasn't explained yet, but the scans and the interview clearly show/mention it. It was also mentioned that it's simple enough that even a chess-n00b can get it.
In the interview, it was mentioned that the storyline is more Edgeworth-centric this time and is about his inner conflicts and struggles.
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Croik wrote:
Guys guys guys, Edgeworth is NOT going to be Attorney General.
Bitchin'! Now I won't be tempted to speculate on non-existent plots and consequently disappoint myself like I did with T&T.
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Nii wrote:
Croik wrote:
I think he's saying that even if Edgeworth doesn't recognize de Killer, it doesn't mean it's a contradiction/Edgeworth is dumb or anything. They've never met face to face after all.
I think the pink outfit is some kind of kimono, and the shells are in place of a family crest. Without some other reason to suspect de Killer involvment I think anyone could easily overlook it.
I think the pink outfit is some kind of kimono, and the shells are in place of a family crest. Without some other reason to suspect de Killer involvment I think anyone could easily overlook it.
Oh, but they did meet face to face (I think? Or was that Phoenix?), just that he didn't know who the "butler" in Engarde's house really was. So maybe meeting him again would make him wonder if he met the guy before?
That, and the logo is right there. Two of them, even; just staring at him! I'm hoping that it will evoke some kind of reaction, even just a small "Doesn't that logo/face look familiar?", if not call him out right there, since he was able to identify DeKiller's involvement from a card Adrian was absently toying with in the Engarde case.
Then again, this is Ace Attorney... If the idea goes completely over Edgeworth's head we could always chalk it up to comic relief. =n=;
Croik has so far been the only one to get it.
Edgeworth and De Killer have never once met face to face and a single small design on a clothing item is not suddenly WARNING SIGNALS EVERYWHERE TO YOUR BATTLE STATIONS for Edgeworth, because it is as it is: just a design. Considering it isn't on a card and isn't appearing at a murder scene (as of yet), the shell design is extremely out of context.
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Coffee Prosecutor wrote:
Can someone tell me where the Chess system was explained? And what is it about Edgey's feelings?
Croik mentioned here that the Chess system is basically a non-supernatural version of the Magatama, but that's all we know. I don't think much about Edgeworth's "conflicted feelings" has been mentioned. We'll probably have to wait for TGS next week for more info.
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GantStare wrote:
Edgeworth might not have ever met DeKiller face to face, but he's heard his voice.
It's been about... maybe 2 years since Edgeworth last heard his voice. He could have forgotten what he sounds like.
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TheWrightWay wrote:
GantStare wrote:
Edgeworth might not have ever met DeKiller face to face, but he's heard his voice.
It's been about... maybe 2 years since Edgeworth last heard his voice. He could have forgotten what he sounds like.
I still don't get the GK2 timeline
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GantStare wrote:
TheWrightWay wrote:
GantStare wrote:
Edgeworth might not have ever met DeKiller face to face, but he's heard his voice.
It's been about... maybe 2 years since Edgeworth last heard his voice. He could have forgotten what he sounds like.
I still don't get the GK2 timeline
All you need to know until further information is released is that it's set some time after (we don't know when!) GK2.
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OniXera wrote:
Croik has so far been the only one to get it.
Edgeworth and De Killer have never once met face to face and a single small design on a clothing item is not suddenly WARNING SIGNALS EVERYWHERE TO YOUR BATTLE STATIONS for Edgeworth, because it is as it is: just a design. Considering it isn't on a card and isn't appearing at a murder scene (as of yet), the shell design is extremely out of context.
Edgeworth and De Killer have never once met face to face and a single small design on a clothing item is not suddenly WARNING SIGNALS EVERYWHERE TO YOUR BATTLE STATIONS for Edgeworth, because it is as it is: just a design. Considering it isn't on a card and isn't appearing at a murder scene (as of yet), the shell design is extremely out of context.
Ohhh, alright, I think I get what you're trying to say now. The shell logo on its own doesn't add up to much, but pair that up with a murder scene and the picture becomes a lot clearer, right? That makes sense. I can understand how he could be able to overlook DeKiller's identity if the logo is all he has going for him. I had "murder investigation" on the brain the entire time, so... yeah. 'xD
TheWrightWay wrote:
GantStare wrote:
Edgeworth might not have ever met DeKiller face to face, but he's heard his voice.
It's been about... maybe 2 years since Edgeworth last heard his voice. He could have forgotten what he sounds like.
And there's a good chance DeKiller altered his voice during the cross-examination.
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God, I SWEAR if they bring back Oldbag...*shakes fist at sky*
Larry I could handle. Mostly.
Meekins got on my nerves.
But Oldbag...She made me want to kill something violently.
I actually kind of hope they do bring Oldbag back. Yeah, she is annoying, but I LOVE the reactions she gets out of Edgeworth. If anything, I just want her there for the lulz.Larry I could handle. Mostly.
Meekins got on my nerves.
But Oldbag...She made me want to kill something violently.
I do agree on Meekins though. He just annoys me and I hope he goes away.
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I think Miles will eventually have to meet Apollo. And learn about Trucy and him, and lead to a sight of Nick. He's a prosecutor, and Apollo's still an attorney.
It'll happen. I hope. :(
It'll happen. I hope. :(
Would set the game post GS4? I don't think the characters look aged enough for that. Sure it might not show much difference to Gumshoe or Edgeworth (if he kept himself well groomed) but Kay definitely.
Also this is a miles Edgeworth game, of COURSE Oldbag is going to be in it.
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