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.•°٭blinq٭°•. wrote:
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Personally, I think that unless they stick with Edgeworth for GK2, Klavier is the most rational choice.
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Klavier is the most rational choice
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most rational choice
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I'm not saying this as an Ema fan, but I don't think that Klavier would be a good main character. At least with Edgey we had a bit more background with him so it felt the same. Klavier would just feel wierd becuase we haven'r palyed as long with him as we have Edgey. Hope that makes sense.
And he's a glimmerous fo-End of disscussion. :)
Heck, Franziska sounds like a better choice to be main character.
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I'm not saying this as an Ema fan, but I don't think that Klavier would be a good main character. At least with Edgey we had a bit more background with him so it felt the same. Klavier would just feel wierd becuase we haven'r palyed as long with him as we have Edgey.
But isn't that exactly the reason why he would be a good main character? He's someone the fans know when it comes to his personality and habits, but we don't know all that much about his backstory, which means there are plenty of spaces needing to get filled in. I really enjoyed GK, but because we know so much about Edgeworth already they weren't any big surprises with regards to his character or history. Klavier doesn't have that problem because we don't know all that much about his past except for his first trial.
Especially if it took place pre-GS4, we'd get to see the other Gavinners, maybe learn just how he felt about the 4-4 case, how he interacted with his brother, etc. There's a lot of room there to work with.
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Croik wrote:
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I'm not saying this as an Ema fan, but I don't think that Klavier would be a good main character. At least with Edgey we had a bit more background with him so it felt the same. Klavier would just feel wierd becuase we haven'r palyed as long with him as we have Edgey.
But isn't that exactly the reason why he would be a good main character? He's someone the fans know when it comes to his personality and habits, but we don't know all that much about his backstory, which means there are plenty of spaces needing to get filled in. I really enjoyed GK, but because we know so much about Edgeworth already they weren't any big surprises with regards to his character or history. Klavier doesn't have that problem because we don't know all that much about his past except for his first trial.
Especially if it took place pre-GS4, we'd get to see the other Gavinners, maybe learn just how he felt about the 4-4 case, how he interacted with his brother, etc. There's a lot of room there to work with.
I love this insight here. It is a bit of a see-saw to me really though, too much information and there are no surprises, too little and you might put off some of the fanbase. I sometimes really do not envy game makers and writers, even if they did use Edgeworth in a game during Apollo or after it, if they added somethings OMGBBQ amazing or shocking, they can moaned at by fans with crys of it not being 'Edgeworth like' or non-canon because of the huge amount of information and history already there for Edgeworth they believe they 'know' him, built in their minds the image of what it is to be Edgeworth and BAM down falls that bridge and we are left blinking.
Scratch all that, I seem to have talked my argument around into saying that there should be someone with less of a history to flesh out in any newer game, tred the unfamiliar and perhaps people will like it.. or not but I agree that Klavier, as much as I dislike him, might work out if used, there is a future and past to play with, it might work or not, that is the risk.
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Ace Attorney Investigations 2: Franziska von Karma.
I would buy that the moment I see it. Edgeworth as the next prosecutor would be great too.
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If that's the case then dammit they better pay attention to what the fans want to see. Either have a place for fans to input ideas, or browse here for awhile 
Now here's where we get speculating. Lets use the distance between the Japanese release of GS4 and GS3-DS as a sort of gauge, 4 months. It's now late June. GK has been selling for a month now. July, August, September. Late September marks 4 months.
Huh, late September. You know what also happens in late September? Tokyo Game Show.
Capcom is very good at making a spectacle where it counts. I say give us a few months. There's most definitely something going to be announced soon.
What if all this time they've been working on GS5 in secret? And the'll suprise us at that game show?
Hey a game featuring
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Now here's where we get speculating. Lets use the distance between the Japanese release of GS4 and GS3-DS as a sort of gauge, 4 months. It's now late June. GK has been selling for a month now. July, August, September. Late September marks 4 months.
Huh, late September. You know what also happens in late September? Tokyo Game Show.
Capcom is very good at making a spectacle where it counts. I say give us a few months. There's most definitely something going to be announced soon.
What if all this time they've been working on GS5 in secret? And the'll suprise us at that game show?
Hey a game featuring
wouldn't be bad. Ema Skye - Ace Scientific Investigator No...no they shouldn't have a place for fans to input their ideas.....fans like us get carried away with what we'd like to see thats what creates slash fanfics and other things. The less input we have on the future of AA the better I think.
And yes Ema Skye - Ace Scientific Investigator would suck harder that a $500 whore.
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My guess is it's going to star edgeworth again i mean it's a sequal right not a completley new game which is honestly how it should be seeing he has the largest fan base and he just works best for that role no offense to ema fans but i was so happy to here that they choose edgeworth over her she just wouldn't work for a main character her scientific perks make her a good side but to have to deal with that the whole game would drive me coco bananas
now a gumshoe game on the other hand...
why i'm guessing it will probally never happen i would smitten with joy if it did i mean if they want to have a detective star in a game gumshoe works so much better than ema he has that main character sillyness and determination and personally i think he's better at his job than people give him credit for plus if he was to good at his job it would make it to hard for people who were new to the series..plus his inner monoluags would be awesome please make it happen capcom i'll love you forever or a second edgeworth sequal is great too cause i do love gumshoe as edgey side kick plus edgey a great character also
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Horay horay there going to make a sequal *does blue badger dance*
My guess is it's going to star edgeworth again i mean it's a sequal right not a completley new game which is honestly how it should be seeing he has the largest fan base and he just works best for that role no offense to ema fans but i was so happy to here that they choose edgeworth over her she just wouldn't work for a main character her scientific perks make her a good side but to have to deal with that the whole game would drive me coco bananas
now a gumshoe game on the other hand... why i'm guessing it will probally never happen i would smitten with joy if it did i mean if they want to have a detective star in a game gumshoe works so much better than ema he has that main character sillyness and determination and personally i think he's better at his job than people give him credit for plus if he was to good at his job it would make it to hard for people who were new to the series..plus his inner monoluags would be awesome please make it happen capcom i'll love you forever or a second edgeworth sequal is great too cause i do love gumshoe as edgey side kick plus edgey a great character also
My guess is it's going to star edgeworth again i mean it's a sequal right not a completley new game which is honestly how it should be seeing he has the largest fan base and he just works best for that role no offense to ema fans but i was so happy to here that they choose edgeworth over her she just wouldn't work for a main character her scientific perks make her a good side but to have to deal with that the whole game would drive me coco bananas
now a gumshoe game on the other hand...
why i'm guessing it will probally never happen i would smitten with joy if it did i mean if they want to have a detective star in a game gumshoe works so much better than ema he has that main character sillyness and determination and personally i think he's better at his job than people give him credit for plus if he was to good at his job it would make it to hard for people who were new to the series..plus his inner monoluags would be awesome please make it happen capcom i'll love you forever or a second edgeworth sequal is great too cause i do love gumshoe as edgey side kick plus edgey a great character alsoHe has a trench coat, a sign of a hard boiled detective.. not a silly labcoat from a bygone dream which has been crushed, come on, Ema did not even want to be a detective, she is a shame on all detectives who want to be there (though Gumshoe did want to be a wizard but oh well.)
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Herr Blondie wrote:
No...no they shouldn't have a place for fans to input their ideas.....fans like us get carried away with what we'd like to see thats what creates slash fanfics and other things. The less input we have on the future of AA the better I think.
Just imagine if Capcom did listen to some of its fans.
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Input by fans is a good thing, it gives developers ideas and gives what the fans want. And it's not like developers have to completely go with a fan idea, they can work with it and make everyone happy.
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Ember-the-prosecutor wrote:
Awesome!
Ace Attorney Investigations 2: Franziska von Karma.
You know you want it. I care more about the AAI series than the AA series right now.
Ace Attorney Investigations 2: Franziska von Karma.
You know you want it. I care more about the AAI series than the AA series right now.
God, this post is so full of awesome! I would kill to see that game!
Although, playing as a detective would be cool too, cause then you can do interrogations, shadowings, and all that cool detective stuff. But... Looking at the list of detectives, it would probably have to be some new guy... I mean, we got: Gumshoe, Ema, Atmey, Daryan, Gant, and possably Lana, All of which have some obvious flaws...
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Odrom wrote:
Herr Blondie wrote:
No...no they shouldn't have a place for fans to input their ideas.....fans like us get carried away with what we'd like to see thats what creates slash fanfics and other things. The less input we have on the future of AA the better I think.
Just imagine if Capcom did listen to some of its fans.
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That sounds mildly fun except it wouldn't work out that way.....the way things are going by the fans on this site....it's more likely to be Damon Gant - Ace Rapist which is seriously discussed elsewhere.
And Fans demands are generally rather extreme Ardee, I don't think a satisfying compromise works especially with Capcom, they screwed up any balance between characters in AJ, some would rather have either Apollo or Phoenix killed off for GS5, how could Capcom listen to a fanbase that quite clearly has no idea what it wants, thats the beauty of fanbases it's diverse but that means that Capcom can only estimate what we want as they'd just recieve too many conflicting opinions if they delved into our crazy fan world.
Though they might find some treasure in making Axel Trugh and his supporting characters official but then that'd take away some of the charm of him.
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Lets put it this way. Fan A wants another Steel Samurai Case, Fan B wants a whole episode dedicated to what happened after the fact in Kurain Village. Fan C wants a follow up to the Enguade Case.
Now, lets look at all the characters that are obligated to return or mostly obligated to return under those case requests.
Cody Hackins, Sal Manella, Devasque, Will Powsers, Penny Nichols, Wendy Oldbag, Iris, Maya, Mia, Pearl, Morgan, Enguard, DeKiller.
That's already 13 guest Characters. Then lets add on characters that are going to return anyways.
Judge, Edgeworth, Maggey, Gumshoe, Franny, Kay, Wolfy.
20 Characters, Three Cases.
Assuming we have 4 cases, we can add 4 victims, and 4 murderers. If five cases we can assume Dekiller and Enguard kill eachother.
So that brings us to 28 Charcters. For non-cameo characters, GK only had 24. There's no room for 'new' non-mandatory characters. And you 'need' new characters in a mystery. The reader/player "needs" to have to meet new characters form a relationship and try to figure out who dun it on their own.
People only really want what they know they like. And they only know for a fact that they liked some things they were given in the past. But they forget why those things were dear to them in the first place. So they're just going to ask for second servings of what they were already given. And by then the plate is stale.
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Though and AAI style game as Diego could be interesting.
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Ardee wrote:
Wait wait, not EVERY fan wants to have a sequel to a case. It's not like the only suggestions would be follow-ups and such. Take a look at the GS5 Syb-Forum for example, people are passing around ideas and fantasies and most of them are about new characters and new scenarios.
RandomJibberish wrote:
There are ways there could be a Godot one, such as after he get out of prison for some reason, but I doubt he would stay prosecuting~
Though and AAI style game as Diego could be interesting.
Though and AAI style game as Diego could be interesting.
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The thing with Edgeworth is that he's popular, as everyone's said. A more minor character would be a hit with more hardcore fans, but more casual fans of Phoenix Wright might go "who? Who's that? What's this weird new style?" while as a famous character would stand out more - this was probably why Edgeworth was the obvious choice for the first one.
And I agree with not touching the Apollo Justice characters until we get another official Apollo Justice game. It'd be nicer to watch them develop more before going from their perspective. Later on, however, I would be all for Klavier or any other AJ character.
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Wooster wrote:
Ardee wrote:
Wait wait, not EVERY fan wants to have a sequel to a case. It's not like the only suggestions would be follow-ups and such. Take a look at the GS5 Syb-Forum for example, people are passing around ideas and fantasies and most of them are about new characters and new scenarios.
RandomJibberish wrote:
There are ways there could be a Godot one, such as after he get out of prison for some reason, but I doubt he would stay prosecuting~
Though and AAI style game as Diego could be interesting.
Though and AAI style game as Diego could be interesting.
Ta-da.
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People are creatures of habit, they know what they like or at least they think they do. Thats why it's up for people outside our fan community to give us new things otherwise we'd end up recycling too much. Besides they've already indulged the fans once by forcing Phoenix into AJ, and thats started off countless arguments and debates across the site, new stuff is needed and for that to happen mostly its up to Capcom and the writers not us fans and its for the best.
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It's not like the fan world is divided by people who want to have more of the same and people who oppose fan input for developers, It's a big world y'know.
But then again, Capcom doesn't listen to their fans... As far as I know.
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And this is the very baseline of your reply? One example? One?
It's not like the fan world is divided by people who want to have more of the same and people who oppose fan input for developers, It's a big world y'know.
But then again, Capcom doesn't listen to their fans... As far as I know.
It's not like the fan world is divided by people who want to have more of the same and people who oppose fan input for developers, It's a big world y'know.
But then again, Capcom doesn't listen to their fans... As far as I know.
How many would you like? It was merely convenience and coincidence. And if it's so easy to get one example by coincidence how many do you think we could get if we actually tried to look for some?
And I know not all ideas put forwards by fans are more of the same, like I said Axel Trugh is an ingenious original thought but a lot of the fan cases in existance as far as I've seen are mostly just additions to existing characters stories.
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As for fan cases, of course they're additions to character stories, some people just don't have the time or talent to make custom character sprites, but there are cases in which the sprites are existing characters, but with a new story and identity.
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Ardee wrote:
Wait a second, if you want to look for examples you can find dozens, but as much as you find statements like that, I can too. Maybe even more I'm not sure.
As for fan cases, of course they're additions to character stories, some people just don't have the time or talent to make custom character sprites, but there are cases in which the sprites are existing characters, but with a new story and identity.
As for fan cases, of course they're additions to character stories, some people just don't have the time or talent to make custom character sprites, but there are cases in which the sprites are existing characters, but with a new story and identity.
"Wait a second"? Don't you mean....
Hehehe sorry but point is somebody DIDN'T coincidentally help you whereas without trying one example showed up for me an Wooster's opinions.
And fan cases aren't limited to what can be sprited, how many pieces of literature regarding the AA series exist eh? And how many are original? Not based on another character I'm talking fanfics here, sure theres some stuff for original characters but for the majority of fan-made content online is based on existing characters.
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And I wasn't talking about fan work either, I was talking about fan discussion *cough*GS5Sub-Forum*cough*. Fan-Works aren't suggestions, they are more tributes than anything.
But let's get this thing back on topic before Wooster gets the ban-hammer on us.
An Edgey trilogy would be great. It patterns with PW 1-3 even if it's a bit late. But since AAI is a spin-off, it's probably not gonna work on that same way, but it'll still be interesting to see other characters to play the role of a detective.
I think it's a bit too early to speculate on the main character though, but for now, Edgey would be perfect in my opinion.
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.•°٭blinq٭°•. wrote:
Lind_L_Tailor wrote:
Personally, I think that unless they stick with Edgeworth for GK2, Klavier is the most rational choice.
Lind_L_Tailor wrote:
Klavier is the most rational choice
Lind_L_Tailor wrote:
most rational choice
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I'm not saying this as an Ema fan, but I don't think that Klavier would be a good main character. At least with Edgey we had a bit more background with him so it felt the same. Klavier would just feel wierd becuase we haven'r palyed as long with him as we have Edgey.
But isn't that exactly the reason why he would be a good main character? He's someone the fans know when it comes to his personality and habits, but we don't know all that much about his backstory, which means there are plenty of spaces needing to get filled in. I really enjoyed GK, but because we know so much about Edgeworth already they weren't any big surprises with regards to his character or history. Klavier doesn't have that problem because we don't know all that much about his past except for his first trial.
Especially if it took place pre-GS4, we'd get to see the other Gavinners, maybe learn just how he felt about the 4-4 case, how he interacted with his brother, etc. There's a lot of room there to work with.
My point exactly. In fact, if it was pre-GS4, Kristoph could make for an excellent rival. Not to mention we could learn of their backstory, perhaps get a better explanation of the events of 4-1 and 4-4.
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Random Jibberish proved my point finely in that it's a typical example of something someone would request without being influenced by what was being discussed at hand. The fact that it followed your reply to me just totally finalized the deal.
Herr Blondie, thank-you for your support in this discussion. You're vocalizing my points and reasons better then I likely could/would.
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Wooster wrote:
Ardee, I'm not arguing that requests for original content are 0. We wouldn't be having this conversation if there weren't. And pulling out 5, 10, even 30 examples of people wanting original content proves nothing. It's all going to be counter balanced by 30, 60, 200 examples of people wanting more of the same.
Random Jibberish proved my point finely in that it's a typical example of something someone would request without being influenced by what was being discussed at hand. The fact that it followed your reply to me just totally finalized the deal.
Herr Blondie, thank-you for your support in this discussion. Your vocalizing my points and reasons better then I likely could/would.
Random Jibberish proved my point finely in that it's a typical example of something someone would request without being influenced by what was being discussed at hand. The fact that it followed your reply to me just totally finalized the deal.
Herr Blondie, thank-you for your support in this discussion. Your vocalizing my points and reasons better then I likely could/would.
Aww shucks Wooster
All the same I'll do better than to debate in an announcement forum like this but Ardee fan works are a chance for originality, not all are tributes. The fact that MOST are is what I'm getting at.
But yeah I expect AAI to be as successful a franchise as AA itself.
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Ardee wrote:
An Edgey trilogy would be great. It patterns with PW 1-3 even if it's a bit late. But since AAI is a spin-off, it's probably not gonna work on that same way, but it'll still be interesting to see other characters to play the role of a detective.
I think it's a bit too early to speculate on the main character though, but for now, Edgey would be perfect in my opinion.
I think it's a bit too early to speculate on the main character though, but for now, Edgey would be perfect in my opinion.
It would make sense for them to make another Edgeworth game, but at the same time I'm not sure how much they can do with him. GK itself left plenty of room for a sequel plot wise, but just like with Phoenix in the first three games, you can only have "His most dramatic case...!" so many times. It's not easy to take an established character and force him to take a case personally when he's already been through so much.
Or they could mirror the original series and have Kay kidnapped/accused of murder/trapped in a cave a few times
I'd prefer Klavier. Or Franziska, if she were older and a bit more developed (and in GERMANY~)
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Lind_L_Tailor wrote:
.•°٭blinq٭°•. wrote:
Lind_L_Tailor wrote:
Personally, I think that unless they stick with Edgeworth for GK2, Klavier is the most rational choice.
Lind_L_Tailor wrote:
Klavier is the most rational choice
Lind_L_Tailor wrote:
most rational choice
Spoiler:
Fix'd.
At least spell his name right.
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And I mean ALOT more Kristoph.
I mean, it'd be awesome.
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Croik wrote:
Or Franziska, if she were older and a bit more developed (and in GERMANY~)
This.
But Germans speaking in English for us gamers seems a bit unrealistic.
Oh wait, there's an Amercan guy speaking in German...
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Am I the only one that wants more Kristoph?
And I mean ALOT more Kristoph.
I mean, it'd be awesome.
And I mean ALOT more Kristoph.
I mean, it'd be awesome.
Of course not! Hell, I made a sprite comic based on him as the DA.
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.•°٭blinq٭°•. wrote:
Lind_L_Tailor wrote:
Personally, I think that unless they stick with Edgeworth for GK2, Klavier is the most rational choice.
Lind_L_Tailor wrote:
Klavier is the most rational choice
Lind_L_Tailor wrote:
most rational choice
Spoiler:
SECONDED.
More Edgeworth please? ^_^;;
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crouton wrote:
.•°٭blinq٭°•. wrote:
Lind_L_Tailor wrote:
Personally, I think that unless they stick with Edgeworth for GK2, Klavier is the most rational choice.
Lind_L_Tailor wrote:
Klavier is the most rational choice
Lind_L_Tailor wrote:
most rational choice
Spoiler:
SECONDED.
More Edgeworth please? ^_^;;
Thirded. :P More AA/GK games can't be bad no matter what, though... Right? I hope. >_>
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I think there are a few advantages and several disadvantages to it. The one major advantage is that while I agree that the Ace Attorney fanbase is full of REALLY unreasonable people, I'm sure the situation will balance itself out through reasonable majorities drowning out the unreasonable minorities, and then the developers cleaning up the rest of the crap to form a coherent story. However, I think the good news ends there. If you look at other situations in which the developers take feedback, you may find that the games are competitive in nature and that the developer is pretty much forced to reveal detailed info about the game to keep the feedback on the same page. This is obviously more appropriate for a competitive game that needs balance than a non-competitive game that needs to rely on surprising, creative gameplay and storylines.
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miles-windows wrote:
Am I the only one that wants more Kristoph?
And I mean ALOT more Kristoph.
I mean, it'd be awesome.
And I mean ALOT more Kristoph.
I mean, it'd be awesome.
I think he'll be covered in AJs line if he's not had the death penalty yet.
I figure they'll keep AJ and GK apart as much as they can besides grown up Ema but it would seem she's a plague who can't be stamped out and they were considering her for the main in GK anyway.
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BUT that's true I would prefer Franny as the main character. That would be LOVEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!! And if it's Klavier, so Daryan and Kristoph must be in it!
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*ahem*
Just had to get that off my chest. Now, enoguh fanboying:
Croik wrote:
TheBaronAndEma wrote:
I'm not saying this as an Ema fan, but I don't think that Klavier would be a good main character. At least with Edgey we had a bit more background with him so it felt the same. Klavier would just feel wierd becuase we haven'r palyed as long with him as we have Edgey.
But isn't that exactly the reason why he would be a good main character? He's someone the fans know when it comes to his personality and habits, but we don't know all that much about his backstory, which means there are plenty of spaces needing to get filled in. I really enjoyed GK, but because we know so much about Edgeworth already they weren't any big surprises with regards to his character or history. Klavier doesn't have that problem because we don't know all that much about his past except for his first trial.
Especially if it took place pre-GS4, we'd get to see the other Gavinners, maybe learn just how he felt about the 4-4 case, how he interacted with his brother, etc. There's a lot of room there to work with.
I see your point, and a good point it is.
I guess Klavier isn't a bad choice in your sense. He has a lot of fans, and has a good backstory to fill in. But other than that, what else? Edgey had his cold hard logic, but what does Klavier have? A magical guitar who tells him the logic? Also, who would be his "sidekick"? Hopefully not Ema, it would just be her bitching about him all the time. And, Edgey did the investigations himself. Klavier probably is too busy being a rockstar to to do it, so he'd probably leave it to Ema anyways.
Also, and please don't think I'm just some fanboy when I say this, but Ema has a good backstory to fill in as well. I mean, why did she fail her forensics exam? She loves science with all her heart, so there's gotta be another reason. How's Lana doing, and do they still keep in touch? How did she herself personally feel about the SL-9 case after being caught up in it? She still has some things to say. And don't forget the science. they make it all worthwhile.
Sorry if my argument seems one sided, I just think there that are better charcters for the role.
After thinking about it, I guess an Ema game is a bit much. I'm willing to make a deal with her own bonus case. pretty plz?
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TheBaronAndEma wrote:
ENOUGHEMAHATEWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
*ahem*
Just had to get that off my chest. Now, enoguh fanboying:
But isn't that exactly the reason why he would be a good main character? He's someone the fans know when it comes to his personality and habits, but we don't know all that much about his backstory, which means there are plenty of spaces needing to get filled in. I really enjoyed GK, but because we know so much about Edgeworth already they weren't any big surprises with regards to his character or history. Klavier doesn't have that problem because we don't know all that much about his past except for his first trial.
Especially if it took place pre-GS4, we'd get to see the other Gavinners, maybe learn just how he felt about the 4-4 case, how he interacted with his brother, etc. There's a lot of room there to work with.
I see your point, and a good point it is.
I guess Klavier isn't a bad choice in your sense. He has a lot of fans, and has a good backstory to fill in. But other than that, what else? Edgey had his cold hard logic, but what does Klavier have? A magical guitar who tells him the logic? Also, who would be his "sidekick"? Hopefully not Ema, it would just be her bitching about him all the time. And, Edgey did the investigations himself. Klavier probably is too busy being a rockstar to to do it, so he'd probably leave it to Ema anyways.
Also, and please don't think I'm just some fanboy when I say this, but Ema has a good backstory to fill in as well. I mean, why did she fail her forensics exam? She loves science with all her heart, so there's gotta be another reason. How's Lana doing, and do they still keep in touch? How did she herself personally feel about the SL-9 case after being caught up in it? She still has some things to say. And don't forget the science. they make it all worthwhile.
Sorry if my argument seems one sided, I just think there that are better charcters for the role.
After thinking about it, I guess an Ema game is a bit much. I'm willing to make a deal with her own bonus case. pretty plz?
*ahem*
Just had to get that off my chest. Now, enoguh fanboying:
Croik wrote:
TheBaronAndEma wrote:
I'm not saying this as an Ema fan, but I don't think that Klavier would be a good main character. At least with Edgey we had a bit more background with him so it felt the same. Klavier would just feel wierd becuase we haven'r palyed as long with him as we have Edgey.
But isn't that exactly the reason why he would be a good main character? He's someone the fans know when it comes to his personality and habits, but we don't know all that much about his backstory, which means there are plenty of spaces needing to get filled in. I really enjoyed GK, but because we know so much about Edgeworth already they weren't any big surprises with regards to his character or history. Klavier doesn't have that problem because we don't know all that much about his past except for his first trial.
Especially if it took place pre-GS4, we'd get to see the other Gavinners, maybe learn just how he felt about the 4-4 case, how he interacted with his brother, etc. There's a lot of room there to work with.
I see your point, and a good point it is.
I guess Klavier isn't a bad choice in your sense. He has a lot of fans, and has a good backstory to fill in. But other than that, what else? Edgey had his cold hard logic, but what does Klavier have? A magical guitar who tells him the logic? Also, who would be his "sidekick"? Hopefully not Ema, it would just be her bitching about him all the time. And, Edgey did the investigations himself. Klavier probably is too busy being a rockstar to to do it, so he'd probably leave it to Ema anyways.
Also, and please don't think I'm just some fanboy when I say this, but Ema has a good backstory to fill in as well. I mean, why did she fail her forensics exam? She loves science with all her heart, so there's gotta be another reason. How's Lana doing, and do they still keep in touch? How did she herself personally feel about the SL-9 case after being caught up in it? She still has some things to say. And don't forget the science. they make it all worthwhile.
Sorry if my argument seems one sided, I just think there that are better charcters for the role.
After thinking about it, I guess an Ema game is a bit much. I'm willing to make a deal with her own bonus case. pretty plz?
I thought you liked Ema? Why wouldn't she be his sidekick?
A more fitting sidekick however would be Daryan if you wanted to make it a prequel...if not I'm sure another one of the Gavinners would make a good detective.
But Ema's backstory might not be as in depth as you think... Lana could be solved with:
"Hows Lana doing?" "She's good I guess, still prosecuting, glad not to be Gants rape toy anymore"
As for her failing the exam....didn't she seem a little conceited and overconfident in her abilities? Maybe she didn't study enough, I know someone just like her who is so sure of themselves they slack....he didn't do well in his exams either
But like you said enough Ema hate, I won't crush dreams
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Herr Blondie wrote:
I thought you liked Ema? Why wouldn't she be his sidekick?
A more fitting sidekick however would be Daryan if you wanted to make it a prequel...if not I'm sure another one of the Gavinners would make a good detective.
A more fitting sidekick however would be Daryan if you wanted to make it a prequel...if not I'm sure another one of the Gavinners would make a good detective.
I do like Ema, but as I said it'd just be her bitching all the time, thus giving her a negative image.
There's a method to my madness.
Herr Blondie wrote:
But Ema's backstory might not be as in depth as you think... Lana could be solved with:
"Hows Lana doing?" "She's good I guess, still prosecuting, glad not to be Gants rape toy anymore"
"Hows Lana doing?" "She's good I guess, still prosecuting, glad not to be Gants rape toy anymore"
......They could at least it in a more positive wording.
Herr Blondie wrote:
As for her failing the exam....didn't she seem a little conceited and overconfident in her abilities? Maybe she didn't study enough, I know someone just like her who is so sure of themselves they slack....he didn't do well in his exams either
I doubt that is the case, and even if it were, I'm sure she'd just retry it again.
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But like you said enough Ema hate, I won't crush dreams
And I'll stop fanboying. There, we have a truce.
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