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Bayonetta belongs to Platinum Games anyway. Unless I missed Platinum and Capcom being in talks to do something, that ain't it.
Actually in Platinum website, in the blog, it's said that they had to ask for rights to use the logo and Capcom let them do it (look at the photo that's not a fantshirt, that's actually a price Platinum gave to winners of a contest.
Mmm...now I'm the one saying let's not jump to conclusions. That might have just been Capcom tossing Hideki Kamiya a bone (voice of Godot's "IGIARI", as I'm sure you know...though I wouldn't say that's related either). I wouldn't mark it down as the start of a collaboration.
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grim_tales wrote:
Maybe it's a special case where Nick/Apollo travel back in time or find information hundreds of years old that is about the witch trials - this connects to a present day case about Trucy or the Feys?
GS and time travel? That would be awesome! *wets pants*
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This "Witch Trial" thing... Sounds interesting. It would be interesting if this might give us something about the Gramaryes or the Feys.
I'm also thinking of a Halloween themed case where somebody gets accused of being a witch a la the Salem Witch Trials.
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What if they took some of the actors that voiced characters from Bayonetta and are recruiting them to voice some of the new characters in GK2?
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nekonohime wrote:
I'm also thinking of a Halloween themed case where somebody gets accused of being a witch a la the Salem Witch Trials.
That's probable, but it must happen back in the 600s. No one in the 21st century would, could and should accept a case of witchcraft anymore. Mason system anyone?
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Akiak wrote:
nekonohime wrote:
I'm also thinking of a Halloween themed case where somebody gets accused of being a witch a la the Salem Witch Trials.
That's probable, but it must happen back in the 600s. No one in the 21st century would, could and should accept a case of witchcraft anymore. Mason system anyone?
Sorry to burst your bubble. But Columbus didn't voyage to America for another 800 or so years after that. There wasn't a Salem to have trials in during the Dark ages.
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), but rather the history that haunts the main case, explaining the motives and stuff.Like the DL-6 and SL-9 flashbacks.
Because, even with the MASON system, since when have we gotten to play that far in the past?
Spoiler: AJ
In that case, it'd be really cool to see the backstory of someone like Ami Fey, who seems like she could be from that era.
...She needs a real identity, because her current faceless picture in the court record creeps me out...
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Asa Turney wrote:
Hmm, I've been thinking that the old-timey story being implied probably isn't the main case of the game (assuming it's even a game!), but rather the history that haunts the main case, explaining the motives and stuff.
Like the DL-6 and SL-9 flashbacks.
Because, since when have we gotten to play that far in the past?
And why would we want to, since none of the lawyers we know would be alive back then...?
In that case, it'd be really cool to see the backstory of someone like Ami Fey, who seems like she could be from that era.
...She needs a real identity, because her current faceless picture in the court record creeps me out...
Like the DL-6 and SL-9 flashbacks.
Because, since when have we gotten to play that far in the past?
And why would we want to, since none of the lawyers we know would be alive back then...?
In that case, it'd be really cool to see the backstory of someone like Ami Fey, who seems like she could be from that era.
...She needs a real identity, because her current faceless picture in the court record creeps me out...
Lang Zi could have been alive back then too...
Lang Zi/Ami Fey pairing
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Maybe Phoenix is finally touching those old books again? Apollo said they were pretty dusty.
And for the XXXxXXX, my guess it's that Level 5 (Layton) x Ace Attorney
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I doubt it'll have much, if anything, to do with Bayonetta. And if it was something like having voice actors from Bayonetta be voice actors from GK2... that doesn't really seem like a big deal to me.
Still, the bottom line is that we're going to have to wait and see, so.... yeah
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End Quote wrote:
Lang Zi could have been alive back then too...
Lang Zi/Ami Fey pairing
...Lang Zi/Ami Fey pairing
...
...
...YES.
Geez, people need to stop suggesting such awesome things, or else it'll be disappointing when it doesn't happen. xD
It's just too bad that they probably couldn't have met... since Ami Fey was likely living in Kurain, and Lang Zi was likely living in Zheng Fa... and there's the apparent evidence of a western setting...
I guess Ami could have traveled somewhere for a channeling job... but then I dunno why Lang Zi would go anywhere that has anything to do with a witch trial... I dunno...
Xpeki wrote:
Maybe Phoenix is finally touching those old books again?
Haha, whoa, yeah...! All this time, maybe that seemingly-humorous line was actually foreshadowing! 
Something in that formidable row of difficult-looking legal books must be holding a secret!Also, I totally agree with the last post and am so happy to be on a site where people are so amazingly perceptive. I wouldn't have even made the western connection. And it especially makes sense now that the text is gone (another thing I wouldn't have given a second thought to! >< ). Wow...
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"I saw the report with her testimony, but who knew that under that helmet... it was the wicked witch of the witness stand!?" -EdgeworthThe new game obviously revolves around Wendy Oldbag!
P.S. Morgan Fey was described as "that old witch" by Lotta.
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nekonohime wrote:
Maybe something like this will happen, lol.
Hahaha, knowing AA's affinity for cultural allusions, I'm absolutely positive that (if this is a game) there will be at least one line in reference to that. x3The Thinker wrote:
"I saw the report with her testimony, but who knew that under that helmet... it was the wicked witch of the witness stand!?" -EdgeworthThe new game obviously revolves around Wendy Oldbag!
!You know, I am willing to believe that she was alive back during the 17th century.
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nekonohime wrote:
Maybe something like this will happen, lol.
Greatest movie of all time.
That said, a lot of people are claiming that the disappearance of the title of the book is evidence that it supports the Salem trials. My knowledge of the trials is fuzzy at best, but I don't particularly associate a titleless book with the trials. Paranoia, voodoo, and stake burning yes.
Could someone clarify for me on that?
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Wooster wrote:
That said, a lot of people are claiming that the disappearance of the title of the book is evidence that it supports the Salem trials. My knowledge of the trials is fuzzy at best, but I don't particularly associate a titleless book with the trials. Paranoia, voodoo, and stake burning yes.
Could someone clarify for me on that?
I think it just suggests that the book is not supposed be Japanese.Could someone clarify for me on that?
It had the Japanese text on the first day just to get the hint across -- but then it was removed for authenticity, to show that it was not a Japanese book, thus providing further evidence of a western setting.
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Asa Turney wrote:
Wooster wrote:
That said, a lot of people are claiming that the disappearance of the title of the book is evidence that it supports the Salem trials. My knowledge of the trials is fuzzy at best, but I don't particularly associate a titleless book with the trials. Paranoia, voodoo, and stake burning yes.
Could someone clarify for me on that?
I think it just suggests that the book is not supposed be Japanese.Could someone clarify for me on that?
It had the Japanese text on the first day just to get the hint across -- but then it was removed for authenticity, to show that it was not a Japanese book, thus providing further evidence of a western setting.
Actually, I'd almost argue otherwise. If the title of the book is not on the side facing us, then that implies via basic deduction that it would have to be on the other side. If the cover is on the bottom then the spine is no longer on the left but on the right, making it an eastern book.
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Also, Joystiq's pointing to a Twilight-looking Japanese TV drama with the name "Majo Saiban". I'm hoping it's unrelated, but... who knows.
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Wow, now the text's disappeared. That definitely means something... whatever it is.
Also, Joystiq's pointing to a Twilight-looking Japanese TV drama with the name "Majo Saiban". I'm hoping it's unrelated, but... who knows.
Also, Joystiq's pointing to a Twilight-looking Japanese TV drama with the name "Majo Saiban". I'm hoping it's unrelated, but... who knows.
Mm, that may be the key to the disappearing text. If someone from that studio saw a problem with them using that title... Could be something as simple as a copyright dispute that pulled the title.
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Wooster wrote:
Mm, that may be the key to the disappearing text. If someone from that studio saw a problem with them using that title... Could be something as simple as a copyright dispute that pulled the title.
Possible, although it'd be a trademark issue not a copyright issue (they are two separate areas of intellectual property).
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Wooster wrote:
DeMatador wrote:
Wow, now the text's disappeared. That definitely means something... whatever it is.
Also, Joystiq's pointing to a Twilight-looking Japanese TV drama with the name "Majo Saiban". I'm hoping it's unrelated, but... who knows.
Also, Joystiq's pointing to a Twilight-looking Japanese TV drama with the name "Majo Saiban". I'm hoping it's unrelated, but... who knows.
Mm, that may be the key to the disappearing text. If someone from that studio saw a problem with them using that title... Could be something as simple as a copyright dispute that pulled the title.
I sure hope so, and that it's not actually related to that drama...
I think the book is right-side up. I mean... I think the spine would've been on the right side if they were going to "flip" the book after a day. Perhaps they wanted it to be a western book, as evidenced by the spine, and then removed the Japanese text to make it western? It could also have to do with copyright infringement....
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A) It could be the title of a new kind of Gyakuten Saiban-related media, either a video game, a novel, manga, anime, TV series, film, or other. Considering the Japanese TV series with the same name exists (also of note, that series is related to the Japanese legal system), it's nigh impossible for this scenario to be true. Unless it were related to the TV show (which I highly doubt, and honestly hope is not the case), Capcom wouldn't be able to announce anything called "Majo Saiban", since it would have been already trademarked by the TV show's producers.
B) It could be something related to whatever announcement they are preparing, but not be its title. If so, then I don't have a clue about the text's disappearance (I don't think it relates to the spine at all, but I could be wrong). Could be the spine thing, could be those kind of "oops we shouldn't have announced that yet" leaks (although they shouldn't be called so, since it's obvious they are leaked by the company itself), or it could be something related to the nature of the announcement. Or it could just be a honest-to-goodness mistake, which I very highly doubt, since we're talking about Capcom here.
Whatever it is, we'll find out sooner or later.
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I sincerely doubt there will be any of the following: time travel, Salem Witch Trials, Late Medieval Witch Hunts, Spanish Inquisition, Early Medieval Heretic Trials and Witch Hunts, or the trials of Communists in the 50's. Did I miss one?
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Jesswee wrote:
I think it's safe to assume that whatever plot is going to take place with whatever it is that's going on is going to be inspired by the Salem witch trials. And it could potentially be modern day. After all something like that did happen in America in the fifties or sixties. Except replace "witch" with "communist."
...Hey...that's a cool possibility...
The plot doesn't necessarily have to do with the literal 17th-century western witch trials, but just a similar situation that reflects it: a modern epidemic of paranoia about a certain group of people ((like...spirit mediums?
)) who are being wildly accused and brought to court in mass numbers (no more slow business for Phoenix/Apollo/whichever lawyer decides to take center stage).The text (removed simply because it was not literally relevant and had fulfilled its purpose on the first day of getting people talking) -- and perhaps the whole picture itself -- is just a hint to set the tone.
That way -- I agree -- there will be no time-traveling, literal witch hunts, communism (xD), etc.
It reminds me of another flashback: the mini shield-and-halberd story that explained the origins of the King of Prosecutors trophy in 1-5. (Which I recently looked up, and was interested to find out that it's totally true [or at least a truly existing myth]. Similarly, it seems plausible that a plot point could be based on the history of the Salem witch trials.)
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The whole setting looks too old for Misty Fey, so I'd agree that it has something to do with Ami Fey, but if I disregard the whole 16th century look, the premise seems more suited for Misty. But with all this talk about the Feys, what about the Gramaryes? Witches=magic=magicians=troupe gramarye. Just a thought. I still think the Fey idea is more likely.
But it's not like we know whether it'll be a game (which, with GK2 coming out, it probably won't, sadly), so if it does concern the Feys, what does it even mean?
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Mousery wrote:
Witches=magic=magicians=troupe gramarye.
Gramayre = Trucy Wright = Apollo Justice
This game is AJ2!
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Mousery wrote:
What's with everyone saying the text is gone? I can see it fine. Or, at least, it's back now.
...Ehhhh!?!?*checks*
You're... you're right...
Why did they do that!?Text or no text: if it's not a clue or a copyright issue, just pick one!!
That's it; they must just enjoy watching overly speculative fans on forums come up with wild theories. =P
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But with all this talk about the Feys, what about the Gramaryes? Witches=magic=magicians=troupe gramarye. Just a thought. I still think the Fey idea is more likely.
I just don't think there's as much social stigma for magicians as there is for spirit mediums. I can't see anyone in the AA universe getting paranoid over witchcraft in stage magic. Everyone flips over 
and Troupe Gramarye; they've got nothing but fans. Yet there are plenty of doubters and haters of the Feys' brand of magic practice.
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Or, it could be a cross with Bayonetta.
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And perhaps I am also looking too much into it, but what about the color of the book? Nothing is magenta and not Edgeworth's at the same time! I'm half joking, maybe.
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OniXera wrote:
Or, it could be a cross with Bayonetta.
Bayonetta seems have something to do with it at the very least, especially because of the t-shirt... But I doubt it's a crossover.
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Mousery wrote:
But with all this talk about the Feys, what about the Gramaryes? Witches=magic=magicians=troupe gramarye. Just a thought. I still think the Fey idea is more likely.
I just don't think there's as much social stigma for magicians as there is for spirit mediums. I can't see anyone in the AA universe getting paranoid over witchcraft in stage magic. Everyone flips over and Troupe Gramarye; they've got nothing but fans. Yet there are plenty of doubters and haters of the Feys' brand of magic practice.
Yeah, I think you're right about that. It's probably the spirit mediums.
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I really doubt this will have to do with the Salem witch trials or whatever. Does Japan even know about that sort of thing? I might be speaking out of ignorance, but I don't think they would base something on history, it just seems so left field. I think this is present day but recalls past events like usually, AA speaking.
I don't think it will have a direct connection to the witch trials either, but it could take place in the past. E.g. Ami Fey or Misty Fey.
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And perhaps I am also looking too much into it, but what about the color of the book? Nothing is magenta and not Edgeworth's at the same time! I'm half joking, maybe.
Magenta? *takes another look and cross-checks with color palette* I feel colorblind... I'm not sure if it classes as magenta, exactly. When I first saw it, it looked more brown, but now that you mention it... Reddish brown, I suppose, but not really magneta. Maybe dusty magenta?
Aaargh... the suspense is killing me. What's XXXxXXX even about?? A game? A comic?
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It's most obvious if you look at the replica they made for TGS when Gyakuten Kenji was first coming out:
http://www.theicecave.org/damage_contro ... thdesk.jpg
So the quill and ink don't necessarily tie the time period of whatever this is to anything premodern.
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