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finally!!!...I like phoenix's new design, also one can only hope the new character is good...and finally we can put the pick your prosecutor contest to a rest...well once we actually get to see said prosecutor >_>;;;
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Can anyone make out Shinobu's full name? It's Mori-something but I can't quite read the second symbol. LOL my Japanese is rusty! But it looks like Payne's brother is Auchi Fumido? They just reversed the Kanji for Payne's first name, hahaha.

I gotta say, I love Phoenix's new look (aka the VEST). Very sad it's not Apollo in the lead, but not unexpected. I hope he's still in there somehow, and they haven't forgotten all the loose ends from AJ. Please let him appear at TGs!!
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Ah, I know to make November 29th my watch out for spoilers day.

Amazing thing to come to, and only a night after watching the movie. :-) Glad to see Phoenix back in the courtroom. Graphics look better than I expected (though I know we could have some real nice Blazblue looking graphics if it remained handdrawn but no biggie) can't wait.
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*ahem* So happy to hear this news. I'm just glad to see that this game exists. As much as I liked Apollo, you'll hear no objections from me about having Phoenix back on the bench.

And he even has that fancy new vest... I wonder if our good friend Miles Edgeworth had something to do with that.. hmm.

Ahh.. it's been so long without an Ace Attorney game, it's good to get happy news like this again.
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Can anyone make out Shinobu's full name? It's Mori-something but I can't quite read the second symbol. LOL my Japanese is rusty! But it looks like Payne's brother is Auchi Fumido? They just reversed the Kanji for Payne's first name, hahaha.


Morisumi Shinobu and Auchi Fumitake.

I was _this_ closing to running outside to go the convenience store to buy Famitsuu myself (as I have severe troubles getting on the site), but then I remembered it's Wednesday. Early leaks!
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all I can say is don't hold your breath if you live outside japan.
The way capcom's been acting lately, I have my doubts as to whether overseas people are going to ever see this thing. I could be wrong, but w/e.

Otherwise, great news that they pulled what Iga did with Castlevania (was it Adventures?) and seemingly eliminated that story. We'll find out in GS5 that Apollo Justice was just an hallucination or something.

I'm interested in what Maya's roll (if any) will be in this game. I'm going to guess that Brown-haired girl has some special power that will replace the magatama or something.
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all I can say is don't hold your breath if you live outside japan.
The way capcom's been acting lately, I have my doubts as to whether overseas people are going to ever see this thing. I could be wrong, but w/e.

Otherwise, great news that they pulled what Iga did with Castlevania (was it Adventures?) and seemingly eliminated that story. We'll find out in GS5 that Apollo Justice was just an hallucination or something.

I'm interested in what Maya's roll (if any) will be in this game. I'm going to guess that Brown-haired girl has some special power that will replace the magatama or something.


The thing is, the whole AAI2 thing was over a minor game in the series. AA5 is a main game in the series, and right after PL vs. AA cross-over, which means an expanded fan base. We'll be getting this game.

And that would be a very unfortunate retcon. I'd rather they address the questions that AJ brought up. The game's ending did leave it open for Phoenix to re-apply to the bar.
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I wanted Apollo :< But maaaaannn this is super exciting either way holy crap!
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I'm pretty surprised, and not sure how I should take the lack of Apollo in the announcements. I'm very impressed with what has been leaked just recently, though. The graphics are nice, Phoenix looks as awesome as I could hope (I can only guess that bang he has now is a side-effect from the constant use of his beanie), and the new assistant (if she's not a trainee of some sort) mystifies me. Exciting times.

Gotta wonder how this will impact the others. It's set after AJ, so there's no excuse to not show the character from that game. Now that Phoenix is back in business, Trucy no longer has the pivotal, money-earning role in the family, and Apollo has "competition" in the take of defense requests in the Wright Anything Agency now. What will happen? Is the place going to become a law office and Trucy will take up law? Are they going to be characters deeply involved with the mysteries to come? Are they going to have a whole different future? I'll be very upset if Apollo and Trucy are not around, or their characters retconned, but I'll still look forward to see how the game is, what the mechanics are, and other merits appliable. It's still Ace Attorney.

Again, exciting times. Let's rejoice.
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TBH I'm a little dissappointed Apollo's nowhere to be seen, I hope he shows up somewhere.
But I'm happy that Phoenix has another shot at the limelight, with such a handsome redesign to boot!

The graphics look stunning! I know some might miss having sprites, but the 3D looks great anyway :edgy:
The pinecone girl's name is Shinobu...something. I'm not sure how to read 森澄. I think ApollozJustice is right about her being a nature lover, not only with her design but also with her name containing the kanji for "forest".
Also Payne's brother is called Fumitake. According to my dictionary, the kanji mean "literary and military arts"?

Edit: Oh wait you guys already got the names lol. 遅かったよ...

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Okay then, comments...

So they're back to revealing the criminal in the first case intro? Darn. (also he looks creepyyyyyyy D: )

New Nick is sexy <3 And his hair reminds me of Sigma a TON.

With that sexy "COURT - DAY 1" image, I hope they use it for more than just that and "COURT - DAY 2" (that is, bring back 3-day trials!)

I hope they don't have a new system in court... C'mon, the CE system is great, don't fix what ain't broken xP

I'm kinda disappointed that Polly isn't the main character (I do love Nick a lot more, but from a story perspective...) but after the amazing job with GK2, I trust them.



Anyway, time to isolate myself from any and all things GS5. Playing games like this without knowing anything is just SOOOO much nicer. (Well, I may check out the TGS coverage... but definitely nothing after that)
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A quick translation of the blurbs in the scans:

http://i.imgur.com/8r19D.jpg

Phoenix, who once solved many cases as a defense laywer. After becoming involved in a conspiricy 8 years ago and losing his attorney's badge, he left the courtroom. He has regained his attorney's badge to fullfil 'an important promise'. But the cases he encounters after his return are even more difficult than ever before... What will Phoenix show us in this game set one year after "4"?

"My first defense in 8 years... This tension... It's kinda nostalgic..."

Screenshot blurbs:

Her right hand glove
She's wearing a black glove only on her right hand. And her glove has a strange design, with the ring finger and pinky showing.

A earring in the form of the moon
She's wearing a earring in the form of a crescent. A modern girl...

GS4 screenshot
He stopped being a lawyer after a certain case and became a pianist. He appears as the defendant in the first case.

http://i.imgur.com/msK8S.jpg

About the first screenshot
We can't see his facial features because of his helmet and goggles
~~ does he has some grudge against the girl?

Screenshot of man
???: If I make it seem like the girl did it...

Why is a helpless looking girl the defendant?
It seems Morisumi Shinobu has a weak body and has seizures when excited.
Screenshot:
Shinobu: I'm Morisumi Shinobu. I am... a high school student.

Screenshot of Fumitake
Auchi: Hehehe, don't be fooled by her looks, judge.
His appearance resembles his brother Takefumi, but.... (can't read the rest because of the light)
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To be honest, I'm conflicted.

I really would have liked to see Apollo carry the torch into AA5, but I'm glad we're getting a game regardless.

The new characters look pretty cool, but I'm wondering what happened with Maya and all that stuff. Hopefully there will be some light shed, but who knows?

And also, hoping for a release out of Japan, but given what Capcom has done the past couple of years, I don't know.

So, to summarize, I'm conflicted.
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Oh, and it might be Morizumi too, instead of Morisumi. Both readings are correct, but you can't tell from these screenshots.
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What do you think Shinobu's name pun is?
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I'm not sure if I like how Phoenix's silhouette looks different in the logo when his hair in the art looks mostly the same as it has before.

Oh well. I'm just glad there's a new game that's much more likely to come out here.
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TheBaronAndEma wrote:
What do you think Shinobu's name pun is?


さぁ・・・

I can't really think of something that is related to her character description. The best things I can come up with now, are just reading her name as is (Morisumi -> Pure Forest), or maybe read her name with different kanji like 森住忍, shinobi living in a forest.

Though the actual pun will probably become clear when we have more information....
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Still cant get onto CR from my computer so Im doing this from my phone. First of all, im very excited. Game looks great. The models look better than layton vs aa and from far away look just like sprites. There are a couple of things that stand out:

1. Apollo isnt the main character. At first I was disappointed, but after seeing the new art and the story details it seems theyre not just pretending AJ didnt happen. There is no question he must be in the game though. Its not like AA to forget characters or major unresolved plot points so im not too worried. I had always looked at AJ as a transition from Phoenix to Apollo, but AJ also works as another phoenix tale, despite apollo being screwed over a bit in the process. Apollo better get a major role.

2. Because phoenix is the main character, though, i think this means theres a much greater chance of getting it in America, if only because layton vs AA is coming out.

3. I know theres some controversy about Takumi not being directly involved, but i think that might be a good thing. I got the feeling he was done with the series maybe by trials and tribulations and totally by apollo justice (it was built a lot like a finale) so his creative spirit might not have been in it. Also, AAI was really really good, so I have no worries GS5 will be great too.

4. Jurist system? Whats going on with that? I hope they dont just forget about it.

Overall, really excited. And i think that when you compare the situations of AAI2 and GS5 (AAI2 a spinoff sequel on a dying system with no advertising) with gs5 (a new game in the main series on a new system starring the face of the series who also happens to be in a sure to be best selling game) the chances of localization are really hopeful
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Great info!!! :gant-jazz:

Excited for the fifth installment!!
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I'm honestly expecting a return to form, hopefully the jurist system is written out of the plot and Apollo plays little to no role in this games events. Let this game be a fresh start with a familiar protagonist that isn't too bogged down by events of past games. I think most people would agree AJ's biggest flaw was that it didn't know if it wanted to be a new story staring Apollo or a Phoenix game though another character. One of the reasons I liked AAI so much more then AJ is that it told it's own story mostly independently of previous AA games outside of having character/joke references.
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No Shu Takumi!?!?! The series is now dead to me.
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No Shu Takumi!?!?! The series is now dead to me.


Don't write it off just for that. Takumi wasn't a part of AAI or AAI2 either, and those games were good (by personal experience for AAI and by secondhand experience from AAI2. I don't know Japanese).
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This news made my year. I reaaaaaaaaaally wanted to see Phoenix as the protagonist again, and I got what I wanted! I KNOW YOU MUST LOVE ME AND ONLY ME CAPCOM!

Anyway, while PW's new hair fringe thing and vest are pretty awesome looking changes, I'm actually more interested in that gold chain hanging out of his front pocket. My guess is that it's the magatama, but who knows?

Maybe Nick just wanted to add a little bling to his thing. :keiko:
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I am so happy, it's crazy! I wonder if...

*SPOILER ALERT*

Lana will get out of jail and be investigating crimes with Ema!!
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:phoenix: Am I happy? Am I HAPPY!? Hell yessum I am! Phoenix is back, baby! Oh my friend! It's been too long since you've been in the spotlight! Welcome back! Please take back your spot... er... to the left(?) of your new assistant and yell Objection and make lucky guesses and take down the those witnesses on the witness stand! Happy day! Haaaaaappy day!!

Sorry if I'm not as emotional about Apollo not having the spotlight. But hey! He may show up again to lend Phoenix a hand, and you just might play as him in a case. They're not going to reveal EVERYTHING just yet. So I'm looking forword to more news about the game when it comes out. (Let's hope Klavier fell off a stage and becomes incapacitated. ... Well, I hope he does... negh!) :phoenix:
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I'm honestly expecting a return to form, hopefully the jurist system is written out of the plot and Apollo plays little to no role in this games events. Let this game be a fresh start with a familiar protagonist that isn't too bogged down by events of past games. I think most people would agree AJ's biggest flaw was that it didn't know if it wanted to be a new story staring Apollo or a Phoenix game though another character. One of the reasons I liked AAI so much more then AJ is that it told it's own story mostly independently of previous AA games outside of having character/joke references.


Totally understand what you mean. But because of the story changes (and the way the made some of them carry so much weight) that if they simply find a way to get out of them in the first case it will bring the narrative quality thats so integral to the games down a bunch of notches. Im ok with them returning to the classic formula, but they have to do it in a way that does them justice (pun kind of intended)
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This definitely isn't a retcon but it does seem like a flimsy excuse to try to win everyone back who was disappointed in Apollo's performance last time out.

To say the least, I don't consider this a very strong move narrative-wise, at least by first impressions. I expect substantial exposition that justifies this change.

Otherwise I think we're going to see even more fallout than we did with Apollo Justice. It looks to me they still want to use a new cast but with an old protagonist. That suggests a lot of friction and people's hopes being dashed by old faces not appearing where they want them to. Doing it with Apollo, who's still pretty fresh-faced and is still kind of a blank slate character, makes more sense to me.

But it's still early...I SUPPOSE anything can happen. I'll just say it's a rocky start, at least in my book.
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I'll keep my hopes on a somewhat contained level, simply because I'm leery of Capcom and their lack of localizations as of late. Let us hope we can get this one.
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Apollo could also be defending on his own, you know... This takes place one year after GS4, after all, so it wouldn't be unrealistic for that to be the case.

And it sounds like Phoenix has personal reasons to become a defense attorney again, just like some of his motivations in Apollo.
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To be honest, I'm conflicted.

I really would have liked to see Apollo carry the torch into AA5, but I'm glad we're getting a game regardless.

The new characters look pretty cool, but I'm wondering what happened with Maya and all that stuff. Hopefully there will be some light shed, but who knows?

And also, hoping for a release out of Japan, but given what Capcom has done the past couple of years, I don't know.

So, to summarize, I'm conflicted.

I feel the same. :meekins: There's so much thing that I like and don't like about this piece of news...

Spoiler: Reasons why I feel conflicted
Things I like about this news:
1. It's 3D: For 3DS?
2. It doesn't write off AJ: It acknowledges AJ, with Phoenix rising out from his 8-year-old disbarred ashes.
3. Gorgeous graphic: Cool Phoenix redesign too!
4. Cute and interesting new character : Since this game revolves mainly around her, she has to have some sort of secrets.

Things I don't like about this news:
1. No Apollo: They decided to go the fanservice route rather than exploring new possibilities with Apollo. I'm quite disappointed. Until further info is release I'll pretend Apollo is on vacation in Hawaii.
2. Takumi is not involved in this game: I thought he was back, but it seems I was wrong.
3. Localization: AAI2 is still stuck in Japan, although with PL vs. AA and the AA movie this might change.
4. No Maya and the others: It's only a piece of news though, maybe she'll appear in later cases? Although it's not really necessary to have her in-game, if only for fanservice.


I'm conflicted, but I'm not dissing this game yet. I'll sit and wait for more info. :hobohodo: Btw someone should make the new Phoenix smiley 8D
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My post from AAO:

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I was liking his new hair look...but I was hating how he looks like he's in his AA-age days instead of the AJ-look in terms of the face.

What I mean is, he looks like he got younger instead of older.

I'm also pretty disappointed he's coming back as a lawyer...I don't have much expectations for this game now that they're using ugly-looking 3d models (is it cel-shaded btw? Cuz I couldn't tell from the scans on my iPad that I saw an hour ago).


And Shu Takumi isn't involved at all...but the AAI producer guy is...so I have even lower expectations now.



Oh well, I can always wait for an iOS port...TGens/MSAT is out x )

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Also, I'm thinking that we'll maybe play Apollo later on in the game...briefly, like how we played PW briefly in AJ.



Anyways, since it's only for the 3DS atm, I don't really care about the news too much.
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This just made my day. MY BODY IS READY CAPCOM! *rawrr* :hotti:

Would be nice if Apollo makes a significant appearance in this :odoroki:

As for the mystery chick, I am thinking Pearly. :pearl: Did consider Trucy but would she be too young? :minuki:
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Yes!!! Finally news!! I can't believe this!! Now I see reason to get a 3DS.

Though I do feel awkward that Hobohodo suddenly got an image change back again. Oh man... Wonder if Apollo will get a substantial share of content?
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It could be Pearl Fey, because of the hair and the similar expressions that Maya has in the earlier games.
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I was so excited to see this announced!
Spoiler: Who thew girl is
I really think that the girl in Yellow could be Trucy. The hair colour, eyes e.t.c)


PHOENIX IS BACK! Poor Apollo...
So the only new things I see with Phoenix, are that his hair is out at the front. He's wearing a vest and has a pocket watch.


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Haha! This is something I've missed; a new character is revealed and people start speculating about it being an old character.

Anyway, ffffuck yes <3 I honestly like the idea of playing as an older Nick.
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