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Spyro wrote:
Lusankya wrote:
They didn't. 
Why do you even think publishers would rate their own games? Never heard of ESRB or PEGI?
Why do you even think publishers would rate their own games? Never heard of ESRB or PEGI?
Ok, you're right on this one - I shouldn't blame Capcom, but I was so frustrated that I forgot about that. My bad.
Lusankya wrote:
Of course you can.
Well... how? As far as I remember, when you register a 3DS, you register your age as well. So eShop confirms your age when you buy a game, does it not? I asked about this a person who owns both a 3DS and Wii U, so I trusted them on this. But in this case, I really hope they were wrong and you are right. I feel really confused right now.
I believe it's more to do with Parental Setting, if you have them enabled, you don't enter the year of your birth, just the day and month. Unless your club nintendo account has your year of birth on, i think you can just download any game you like, it just tells you the age rating before you accept the download.
Plus, the animated sequences might have given more realism if they show the actual murder, or elements of it, hence the high rating.
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Spyro wrote:
Lusankya wrote:
Of course you can.
Well... how? As far as I remember, when you register a 3DS, you register your age as well. So eShop confirms your age when you buy a game, does it not? I asked about this a person who owns both a 3DS and Wii U, so I trusted them on this. But in this case, I really hope they were wrong and you are right. I feel really confused right now.
No one ever verifies your age, that's why the code cards which allow you to load money on your account have an age restriction (but someone else can buy them for you or you can buy them yourself online).
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However, I am interested in why it is rated M. Just for reference, here are the ratings for the other games, along with their reasoning:
Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - T (Teen)
Blood, Language, Suggestive Themes, Violence
Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - Justice for All - T (Teen)
Blood, Mild Violence, Suggestive Themes
Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - Trials and Tribulations - T(Teen)
Mild Blood, Mild Violence
Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney - T(Teen)
Mild Blood, Suggestive Themes, Violent References
Ace Attorney Investigations: Miles Edgeworth - T(Teen)
Blood, Mild language, Mild Suggestive Themes, Mild Violence.
Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - Dual Destinies - M(Mature)
Violence, Blood, Suggestive Themes, Language
As you can see, the reasons why DD is M are the same as why PW:AA was T so I'm a little confused. So far the violence hasn't seemed worse than the previous installments and "suggestive themes" means there's not any more innuendo or sexual content than there has been in the past so I'm confused.
On another note, does the fact that this game has been rated M already mean that the localization is probably almost done? That might mean we get it sooner rather than later.
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ADA McCoy wrote:
Realistically I don't think the M rating is really going to stop anyone from getting the game who would have otherwise. Most likely anyone who wants to get a game about solving murders is around the age where they can handle the violence (at least what we've seen so far) or their parent can make the decision whether to get them the game or not.
However, I am interested in why it is rated M. Just for reference, here are the ratings for the other games, along with their reasoning:
Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - T (Teen)
Blood, Language, Suggestive Themes, Violence
Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - Justice for All - T (Teen)
Blood, Mild Violence, Suggestive Themes
Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - Trials and Tribulations - T(Teen)
Mild Blood, Mild Violence
Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney - T(Teen)
Mild Blood, Suggestive Themes, Violent References
Ace Attorney Investigations: Miles Edgeworth - T(Teen)
Blood, Mild language, Mild Suggestive Themes, Mild Violence.
Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - Dual Destinies - M(Mature)
Violence, Blood, Suggestive Themes, Language
As you can see, the reasons why DD is M are the same as why PW:AA was T so I'm a little confused. So far the violence hasn't seemed worse than the previous installments and "suggestive themes" means there's not any more innuendo or sexual content than there has been in the past so I'm confused.
On another note, does the fact that this game has been rated M already mean that the localization is probably almost done? That might mean we get it sooner rather than later.
However, I am interested in why it is rated M. Just for reference, here are the ratings for the other games, along with their reasoning:
Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - T (Teen)
Blood, Language, Suggestive Themes, Violence
Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - Justice for All - T (Teen)
Blood, Mild Violence, Suggestive Themes
Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - Trials and Tribulations - T(Teen)
Mild Blood, Mild Violence
Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney - T(Teen)
Mild Blood, Suggestive Themes, Violent References
Ace Attorney Investigations: Miles Edgeworth - T(Teen)
Blood, Mild language, Mild Suggestive Themes, Mild Violence.
Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - Dual Destinies - M(Mature)
Violence, Blood, Suggestive Themes, Language
As you can see, the reasons why DD is M are the same as why PW:AA was T so I'm a little confused. So far the violence hasn't seemed worse than the previous installments and "suggestive themes" means there's not any more innuendo or sexual content than there has been in the past so I'm confused.
On another note, does the fact that this game has been rated M already mean that the localization is probably almost done? That might mean we get it sooner rather than later.
To me the whole thing may have to do with one thing:
The violence.
In past games, almost everything was animated in 2D. Now with the fully 3D, the crime scenes will more than likely be more gruesome.
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hasfarr wrote:
ADA McCoy wrote:
Realistically I don't think the M rating is really going to stop anyone from getting the game who would have otherwise. Most likely anyone who wants to get a game about solving murders is around the age where they can handle the violence (at least what we've seen so far) or their parent can make the decision whether to get them the game or not.
However, I am interested in why it is rated M. Just for reference, here are the ratings for the other games, along with their reasoning:
Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - T (Teen)
Blood, Language, Suggestive Themes, Violence
Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - Justice for All - T (Teen)
Blood, Mild Violence, Suggestive Themes
Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - Trials and Tribulations - T(Teen)
Mild Blood, Mild Violence
Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney - T(Teen)
Mild Blood, Suggestive Themes, Violent References
Ace Attorney Investigations: Miles Edgeworth - T(Teen)
Blood, Mild language, Mild Suggestive Themes, Mild Violence.
Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - Dual Destinies - M(Mature)
Violence, Blood, Suggestive Themes, Language
As you can see, the reasons why DD is M are the same as why PW:AA was T so I'm a little confused. So far the violence hasn't seemed worse than the previous installments and "suggestive themes" means there's not any more innuendo or sexual content than there has been in the past so I'm confused.
On another note, does the fact that this game has been rated M already mean that the localization is probably almost done? That might mean we get it sooner rather than later.
However, I am interested in why it is rated M. Just for reference, here are the ratings for the other games, along with their reasoning:
Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - T (Teen)
Blood, Language, Suggestive Themes, Violence
Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - Justice for All - T (Teen)
Blood, Mild Violence, Suggestive Themes
Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - Trials and Tribulations - T(Teen)
Mild Blood, Mild Violence
Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney - T(Teen)
Mild Blood, Suggestive Themes, Violent References
Ace Attorney Investigations: Miles Edgeworth - T(Teen)
Blood, Mild language, Mild Suggestive Themes, Mild Violence.
Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - Dual Destinies - M(Mature)
Violence, Blood, Suggestive Themes, Language
As you can see, the reasons why DD is M are the same as why PW:AA was T so I'm a little confused. So far the violence hasn't seemed worse than the previous installments and "suggestive themes" means there's not any more innuendo or sexual content than there has been in the past so I'm confused.
On another note, does the fact that this game has been rated M already mean that the localization is probably almost done? That might mean we get it sooner rather than later.
To me the whole thing may have to do with one thing:
The violence.
In past games, almost everything was animated in 2D. Now with the fully 3D, the crime scenes will more than likely be more gruesome.
I guess but it's still animated sprite-looking people. It's not suddenly motion-captured hyper-realistic people in the game now so even with the switch I still can't think that it would be that much worse seeing the same stuff in 3D.
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ADA McCoy wrote:
As you can see, the reasons why DD is M are the same as why PW:AA was T so I'm a little confused. So far the violence hasn't seemed worse than the previous installments and "suggestive themes" means there's not any more innuendo or sexual content than there has been in the past so I'm confused.
Those a just basic indicators. For different games they mean different things and the ESRB ratings aren't very reliable anyway, because they don't even play through the games they rate (well, most rating boards don't do this).
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On another note, does the fact that this game has been rated M already mean that the localization is probably almost done? That might mean we get it sooner rather than later.
I actually think we'll be getting the game very soon. Like late August/September. Localization seems to be on top of their game if we already have case 3 screenshots translated after seeing the Japanese screenshots 1-2 weeks ago.
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ADA McCoy wrote:
Realistically I don't think the M rating is really going to stop anyone from getting the game who would have otherwise. Most likely anyone who wants to get a game about solving murders is around the age where they can handle the violence (at least what we've seen so far) or their parent can make the decision whether to get them the game or not.
However, I am interested in why it is rated M. Just for reference, here are the ratings for the other games, along with their reasoning:
Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - T (Teen)
Blood, Language, Suggestive Themes, Violence
Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - Justice for All - T (Teen)
Blood, Mild Violence, Suggestive Themes
Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - Trials and Tribulations - T(Teen)
Mild Blood, Mild Violence
Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney - T(Teen)
Mild Blood, Suggestive Themes, Violent References
Ace Attorney Investigations: Miles Edgeworth - T(Teen)
Blood, Mild language, Mild Suggestive Themes, Mild Violence.
Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - Dual Destinies - M(Mature)
Violence, Blood, Suggestive Themes, Language
As you can see, the reasons why DD is M are the same as why PW:AA was T so I'm a little confused. So far the violence hasn't seemed worse than the previous installments and "suggestive themes" means there's not any more innuendo or sexual content than there has been in the past so I'm confused.
On another note, does the fact that this game has been rated M already mean that the localization is probably almost done? That might mean we get it sooner rather than later.
However, I am interested in why it is rated M. Just for reference, here are the ratings for the other games, along with their reasoning:
Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - T (Teen)
Blood, Language, Suggestive Themes, Violence
Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - Justice for All - T (Teen)
Blood, Mild Violence, Suggestive Themes
Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - Trials and Tribulations - T(Teen)
Mild Blood, Mild Violence
Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney - T(Teen)
Mild Blood, Suggestive Themes, Violent References
Ace Attorney Investigations: Miles Edgeworth - T(Teen)
Blood, Mild language, Mild Suggestive Themes, Mild Violence.
Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - Dual Destinies - M(Mature)
Violence, Blood, Suggestive Themes, Language
As you can see, the reasons why DD is M are the same as why PW:AA was T so I'm a little confused. So far the violence hasn't seemed worse than the previous installments and "suggestive themes" means there's not any more innuendo or sexual content than there has been in the past so I'm confused.
On another note, does the fact that this game has been rated M already mean that the localization is probably almost done? That might mean we get it sooner rather than later.
And here I was hoping for some nudity in an Ace Attorney game.
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On another note, does the fact that this game has been rated M already mean that the localization is probably almost done? That might mean we get it sooner rather than later.
I actually think we'll be getting the game very soon. Like late August/September. Localization seems to be on top of their game if we already have case 3 screenshots translated after seeing the Japanese screenshots 1-2 weeks ago.
Localizations are usually finished way before a game is released, so it doesn't mean too much. Also August isn't "Fall 2013".
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paviv14 wrote:
Just a quick thought, DD coming to the eShop could mean some features have been removed? i keep thinking to myself they have removed the animated cutscenes, as we have not seen a single video of them localized...
Highly unlikely. Look at Code of Princess, that was a digital only release in Europe and nothing changed. Also, they would have to remove the cutscenes and replace them with stills, or new content to fill the gap. The story would be all over the place if they did!
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Joking aside, I suspect it might just be the ratings board getting harsher. Dragon's dogma (another Capcom game) got a 12+ rating in Europe, despite some pretty mature content. It's rerelease/expansion pack the next year on the other hand managed to score an 18+ rating with little changing in terms of levels of violence and other indicators to justify the change in rating.
So yeah, don't see much changing, although it does get me thinking of how a more "mature" ace attorney game might play out.
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paviv14 wrote:
Just a quick thought, DD coming to the eShop could mean some features have been removed? i keep thinking to myself they have removed the animated cutscenes, as we have not seen a single video of them localized...
No, nothing was removed. Why would you even think such a thing?
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Lusankya wrote:
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On another note, does the fact that this game has been rated M already mean that the localization is probably almost done? That might mean we get it sooner rather than later.
I actually think we'll be getting the game very soon. Like late August/September. Localization seems to be on top of their game if we already have case 3 screenshots translated after seeing the Japanese screenshots 1-2 weeks ago.
Localizations are usually finished way before a game is released, so it doesn't mean too much. Also August isn't "Fall 2013".
True, although in this case, Capcom don't have to go through the physical manufacturing process, which cuts a large chunk of time out.
Yes August isn't technically summer, but the end is close to September, and it would be around a month after the Japanese release. It's also not like they are releasing English screens as soon as they have completed them, so they could have actually almost finished the translation process already, and it's just a matter of bug testing/graphics editing/audio implementation. And whatever else i've missed out..
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Lusankya wrote:
paviv14 wrote:
Just a quick thought, DD coming to the eShop could mean some features have been removed? i keep thinking to myself they have removed the animated cutscenes, as we have not seen a single video of them localized...
No, nothing was removed. Why would you even think such a thing?
It just occured to me, and i really hope i'm wrong, but we haven't seen any videos showing english voice acting.... yet.
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paviv14 wrote:
Lusankya wrote:
paviv14 wrote:
Just a quick thought, DD coming to the eShop could mean some features have been removed? i keep thinking to myself they have removed the animated cutscenes, as we have not seen a single video of them localized...
No, nothing was removed. Why would you even think such a thing?
It just occured to me, and i really hope i'm wrong, but we haven't seen any videos showing english voice acting.... yet.
Exactly, "yet". They haven't even released a proper 2nd trailer yet, and if i'm correct, it should heavily feature the animated scenes, if it's based of the Japanese 2nd trailer that is.
Hey, now we know as much as Japan (Essentially..) maybe they will show a proper trailer tomorrow at the Capcom panel?
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Then again, I dislike many of Iwadare's character themes. The two big exceptions for me are Distant Traces of Beauty and The Fragrance of Dark Coffee.
It doesn't bother me too much, though, because the courtroom music for this game has sounded really great so far.
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LuigiHann wrote:
I hope, if it does come out M rated, that they're at least comfortable with mild profanity
Spoiler: so much more dramatic
Mild profanity?!
Think of the children!
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Like I said, they were probably able to slip with a T rating because of the stills, which implies the murder or only shows partial angles, avoiding explicit violence. In 3D, especially with the way it looks like they're doing it, you have a lot more expressed animation, and so it's a lot harder to "imply" the violence in the games, so it could be roughly the same amount of violence (I believe this might be a slight bit more violent than its predecessors), but with such explicit animation, it's hard to get a T rating.
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Dual Destines seems to have no more violence or language than the average Phoenix Wright game. Is the sight of blood so much to give this game an M rating? If this game doesn't sell well, this time it won't be the fault of Capcom or the consumers. It'll be the ESRB's fault.
They are a horrible organization that doesn't even accurately rate products. No one knows exactly who they are, and they won't reveal their members. They don't even PLAY the games, companies just send them a DVD containing the most "questionable" content in the games. Secondly, why isn't there a rating between "T" and "M?" EVERY OTHER VIDEO GAME RATING SYSTEM in other countries has a middle ground. Japan has their "C" rating, the PEGI their 16+ rating; etc. What's the point of having an AO rating in the first place, if nothing ever gets rated that way? PC games almost have no ratings if they're sold independently, while Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo refuse to release those kinds of games on their systems. M for Mature should be the last rating. Whew, I've had my rant. Does anyone agree with me?
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TopHatProfessor1014 wrote:
The ESRB are a bunch of idiots. They have no idea how to properly rate some games. Rating perfectly family-friendly games like Twilight Princess and Super Smash Bros. Brawl "T," while something that's not even that violent like Halo Reach "M." Even games that do have justifiable "M" ratings have poor indicators or could be easily rated T. The original Metal Gear Solid has the descriptor "Mature Sexual Themes." What "Mature Sexual Themes!?" Talking about biology and genotypes along with reproduction in a purely scientific way? You consider THAT, Mature and Sexual!? In fact, most MGS games could be rated "T," MGS2 especially. But of course, the Game Boy version of MGS is rated "E" for Everyone; when it has strong language, suicides, bloody deaths, smoking, and even a game boss that uses dead human corpses for shields. Sounds like a great game for kids, huh? Another example is Red Dead Redemption, which has the indicator of "Strong Sexual Content." What Strong Sexual Content? ONE sex scene? Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory, that game's rated "M" when the previous two were rated T. The violence in Chaos Theory is no more intense than the other two SC games, and it doesn't even have blood; something the ESRB appears to have an intense fear of. You can tell they messed up because the 3DS version, which is exactly the same game, was rated "T."
Dual Destines seems to have no more violence or language than the average Phoenix Wright game. Is the sight of blood so much to give this game an M rating? If this game doesn't sell well, this time it won't be the fault of Capcom or the consumers. It'll be the ESRB's fault.
They are a horrible organization that doesn't even accurately rate products. No one knows exactly who they are, and they won't reveal their members. They don't even PLAY the games, companies just send them a DVD containing the most "questionable" content in the games. Secondly, why isn't there a rating between "T" and "M?" EVERY OTHER VIDEO GAME RATING SYSTEM in other countries has a middle ground. Japan has their "C" rating, the PEGI their 16+ rating; etc. What's the point of having an AO rating in the first place, if nothing ever gets rated that way? PC games almost have no ratings if they're sold independently, while Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo refuse to release those kinds of games on their systems. M for Mature should be the last rating. Whew, I've had my rant. Does anyone agree with me?
Dual Destines seems to have no more violence or language than the average Phoenix Wright game. Is the sight of blood so much to give this game an M rating? If this game doesn't sell well, this time it won't be the fault of Capcom or the consumers. It'll be the ESRB's fault.
They are a horrible organization that doesn't even accurately rate products. No one knows exactly who they are, and they won't reveal their members. They don't even PLAY the games, companies just send them a DVD containing the most "questionable" content in the games. Secondly, why isn't there a rating between "T" and "M?" EVERY OTHER VIDEO GAME RATING SYSTEM in other countries has a middle ground. Japan has their "C" rating, the PEGI their 16+ rating; etc. What's the point of having an AO rating in the first place, if nothing ever gets rated that way? PC games almost have no ratings if they're sold independently, while Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo refuse to release those kinds of games on their systems. M for Mature should be the last rating. Whew, I've had my rant. Does anyone agree with me?
No.
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No.
Care to elaborate?
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No.
Care to elaborate?
That would probably be a no to.
The point about DD having no more profanity than the other is interesting, considering it hasn't released yet and no one knows the level of profanity that's in it.
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That would probably be a no to.
The point about DD having no more profanity than the other is interesting, considering it hasn't released yet and no one knows the level of profanity that's in it.
The point about DD having no more profanity than the other is interesting, considering it hasn't released yet and no one knows the level of profanity that's in it.
It may be too early to properly asses DD's rating, but you have to agree that the ESRB is far from a perfect, or even good system. Just look at the examples I mentioned.
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irishmarcoos wrote:
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No.
Care to elaborate?
That would probably be a no to.
The point about DD having no more profanity than the other is interesting, considering it hasn't released yet and no one knows the level of profanity that's in it.
I bet it's because Simon tells people to shut up.
I'm not even sure whether or not I'm joking.
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Percei wrote:
3D, I believe is the big differentiator. Of course we haven't seen some of the more violent stuff because these are the more "all audiences trailers", but consider for a moment if we were to animate the opening of Case 2 of PW:AA in 3D and then compare it to the existing opening. In PW:AA, we have a still of Redd White swinging the clock, and a still of Mia cowering, and then blood dripping off the Thinker Clock. If you animated that in 3D, you now have a fluid animation of a bashing a woman's head in and then blood dripping off the clock, a lot more gruesome. The openings to cases have always been the most violent parts of the game.
Like I said, they were probably able to slip with a T rating because of the stills, which implies the murder or only shows partial angles, avoiding explicit violence. In 3D, especially with the way it looks like they're doing it, you have a lot more expressed animation, and so it's a lot harder to "imply" the violence in the games, so it could be roughly the same amount of violence (I believe this might be a slight bit more violent than its predecessors), but with such explicit animation, it's hard to get a T rating.
Like I said, they were probably able to slip with a T rating because of the stills, which implies the murder or only shows partial angles, avoiding explicit violence. In 3D, especially with the way it looks like they're doing it, you have a lot more expressed animation, and so it's a lot harder to "imply" the violence in the games, so it could be roughly the same amount of violence (I believe this might be a slight bit more violent than its predecessors), but with such explicit animation, it's hard to get a T rating.
If I were animating that scene in 3D I would maintain the tasteful editing to avoid making it too gruesome.
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Then again, I dislike many of Iwadare's character themes. The two big exceptions for me are Distant Traces of Beauty and The Fragrance of Dark Coffee.
How dare you tell me this isn't good lol. But in all seriousness, I am quite a fan of his character themes, especially those in the Investigations/GyakutenKenji series. GK2, in particular, has very good themes, in my opinion. The theme for the culprit in Case 5 is a pretty neat one. Though hearing it is pretty spoiler-y.
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Secondly, why isn't there a rating between "T" and "M?" EVERY OTHER VIDEO GAME RATING SYSTEM in other countries has a middle ground.
I've been thinking this for a while. I used to think that you could "argue" their case that the game might be a bit graphic for 13 year olds, but then the next available rating is... Mature (17+)? What a joke.
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Secondly, why isn't there a rating between "T" and "M?" EVERY OTHER VIDEO GAME RATING SYSTEM in other countries has a middle ground.
I've been thinkign this for a while. I used to think that you could "argue" their case that the game might be a bit graphic for 13 year olds, but then the next available rating is... Mature (17+)? What a joke.
Thank god Europe has PEGI, 3/7/12/16/18, that's quite a decent gap inbetween them, so with DD being 16, at least it doesn't isolate a significant amount of people
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SeanHK wrote:
How dare you tell me this isn't good lol.
I will grant that that is also one of his better character themes.
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But in all seriousness, I am quite a fan of his character themes, especially those in the Investigations/GyakutenKenji series. GK2, in particular, has very good themes, in my opinion. The theme for the culprit in Case 5 is a pretty neat one. Though hearing it is pretty spoiler-y.
Can't speak for GK2, haven't played it. I do know that a lot of his work for GK left me cold. For that matter, he's just overall my least favorite composer for the series. Not to say he hasn't done some decent stuff (I love the investigation themes in both GS3 and GK), but I just like the other series composers more. This is why I was so delighted to discover that I actually really like what we've been able to hear so far from GS5 (mostly courtroom themes).
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Uhm, I actually checked the ratings databases. The game doesn't have any ratings yet.
Yeah, the PEGI rating still says Provisional 16 at the beginning of the trailers, however, they don't tend to stray far from the provisional.
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What do you mean by that? Ace Attorney has never been that messed up. If you want an example of a really horrifying DS game, look at 999. Also, without spoiling anything; do you think that you could be more specific with GK2?
Has anyone even considered this? GTAV is going to come out at around the same time as Dual Destinies. Both games will be rated "M." That's right, Ace Attorney will have the same rating as Grand Theft Auto. Do I even have to say anything else?
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I think the bombing incident might be a contributor to the M rating. Especially since there was the recent bombing at the Boston Marathon (and I believe somewhere else too), along with 9/11. A lot of controversy surrounds bombings in the West, which could justify the rating.
That's a stupid reason, if that's one of the causes of the Mature rating. You don't play as the bomber, and you're trying to solve the case. It really infuriates me when these idiotic people try to censor our media (or in this case rate it Mature) just because of some isolated incidents that are extremely irregular.
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I think the bombing incident might be a contributor to the M rating. Especially since there was the recent bombing at the Boston Marathon (and I believe somewhere else too), along with 9/11. A lot of controversy surrounds bombings in the West, which could justify the rating.
Surely it shouldn't matter, it's fiction after all. The graphics and anime scenes are in no way meant to look realistic. If that was the case they might as well have removed the entire first case and any references to it. (A bit crazy, i know...)
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Out of all the rating administrations we have in America, the ESRB is by far the best, is it a perfect system? No, but then again, what organization whose main purpose is censorship is? Out of the examples that you listed, I agree with almost all their ratings. I would definitely give Twilight Princess a T, it's darker and far more violent than any of the games thus far (also, had Wind Waker been made with TP Graphics, it'd also be a T), and it's target audience is a more mature Zelda fan. Brawl, one could argue for a E10+ as compared to a T, but I will say that that would be a pretty violent E10+ game. I'm not an MGS fan, nor have I played them, so I can't comment. On "Red Dead Redemption", one sex scene is enough, and frankly it should be, and there's PLENTY of other things to justify an M rating. I haven't played Splinter Cell either, but I'm sure there's good reasons for it to be M. Plus you also have to consider target audiences. There are expectations that come from T games and from M games, and there are so many TOOTHLESS T games that the T rating has lost a lot of what it was supposed to be. Think if a GTA, any GTA, was rated T, with almost no change, it would have a COMPLETELY different image.
So, no, I don't agree with you. Unlike the RIAA and the MPAA, I have a decent amount of respect for the ESRB, they know what they're doing when rating games.
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