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And so it disappears again, now I do think it's part of the mystery lol.
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And so it disappears again, now I do think it's part of the mystery lol.


Hey, you're right! It's gone... and nothing else on the desk seems to have changed. Hm, I wonder what the exact times are when it changes.
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Maybe XXXXxXXXX is some kind of crossover? It can't be GK2 as thats already been announced...
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I'm just going to come out of hiding for a bit to point out that Edgeworth does in fact have both a quill pen and an ink well on his desk, canonly.


OMG 0_0 There's even that tray on his desk.
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If it's on Edgey's desk, it could have something to do with GK2, or probably something GK-related. Maybe a book or manga or movie (or opera?) about Edgey solving a series of cases known as "The Witch Trials"?
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I doubt AAI 2 and the new one will be out at the same time. AAI 2 will probably late this year or early next and this new game will be out around this time next year. I have a feeling that if they are collaborating with Level 5 they'll have something special like having the court room sequences done with full voice to take advantage of the 3DS's capacity. However I cringe to imagine the wait on the localization of something like that.

As for Majo Saiban I doubt it'll be the new title and they'll have new characters. And as Much as I'd like to see an Umineko crossover Phoenix trying to explain the nonexistance of magic with his dead mentor guiding him on seems a bit contradictory.
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If it's on Edgey's desk, it could have something to do with GK2, or probably something GK-related. Maybe a book or manga or movie (or opera?) about Edgey solving a series of cases known as "The Witch Trials"?


I still don't think it's on Edgeworth's desk, because though it's clear and probable he has a quill, why would he have a roll of old parchment?
*smacks head* Here we are talking about games, and the witch trials thing is printed on A BOOK. The name "The Witch Trials" sounds so good as a title, especially for a series of cases. Yeah, maybe it'll be a novel...
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A novel (not a manga)? That would be kinda interesting - considering AA is like a visual novel, rather like one of those Choose Your Own Adventure books :D
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I have no idea what's going on anymore and I'm not sure if I should hype too much. However, "witch trial" DOES sound cool.
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I'm trying not to get too hyped up, to avoid disappointment. But after reading through the comments, I'm having a hard time not getting excited.
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Personally, I'm more hyped about the quickly denied tweet. After all, Information you're not supposed to have is always more interesting then what they spoon feed you. Although, I'm not, as of yet, convinced that Level-5 is related to this project.
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Xpeki wrote:
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Witches=magic=magicians=troupe gramarye.


Gramayre = Trucy Wright = Apollo Justice

This game is AJ2! :odoroki:


I'd really like to see that. I like Edgeworth okay, but he just doesn't hold my interest enough for me to ever get around to finishing AAI :(
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Mousery wrote:
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If it's on Edgey's desk, it could have something to do with GK2, or probably something GK-related. Maybe a book or manga or movie (or opera?) about Edgey solving a series of cases known as "The Witch Trials"?


I still don't think it's on Edgeworth's desk, because though it's clear and probable he has a quill, why would he have a roll of old parchment?
*smacks head* Here we are talking about games, and the witch trials thing is printed on A BOOK. The name "The Witch Trials" sounds so good as a title, especially for a series of cases. Yeah, maybe it'll be a novel...


Yeah, I'm not 100% certain it's his desk, but if it's the desk of anyone we know, then it would most likely be his. A roll of parchment would be easier to explain (evidence of some sort?) than explaining why there's a quill and inkwell on Phoenix's desk, for instance. The candle seems out of place for it being Edgeworth's desk, too.

I like the Edgeworth's desk theory for the fact that the quill would be a cool hint if they were going for leaving hints in the image, and it might tie in with other theories about the "witch trials" being related to Misty Fey and DL6. I would be surprised to see Edgeworth digging into something related to that case on his own as a personal project, and I like the idea of the witch trials having to do with Kurain.

A novel is a really cool idea, I'd love that. They've done manga plenty of times now, so it would seem weird for them to make such a spectacle of this if it's something they've done before. A game seems improbable because they've been really careful about not marketing multiple games at once.
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I'm inclined to call it a clever marketing technique to glean inerest in a game that has NOTHING to do with the series but is aimed at a similar audience...I just can't buy it being anything Phoenix/Edgeworth/Attorney related.

And no, Witch Trials is NOT enough to bait me into that argument either...needs more evidence.
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Xpeki wrote:
Mousery wrote:
Witches=magic=magicians=troupe gramarye.


Gramayre = Trucy Wright = Apollo Justice

This game is AJ2! :odoroki:



You are aware that this would mean that Trucy will be burned on the stake? :yuusaku:
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I'm also thinking of a Halloween themed case where somebody gets accused of being a witch a la the Salem Witch Trials.


That's probable, but it must happen back in the 600s. No one in the 21st century would, could and should accept a case of witchcraft anymore. Mason system anyone?


Sorry to burst your bubble. But Columbus didn't voyage to America for another 800 or so years after that. There wasn't a Salem to have trials in during the Dark ages.


Sorry to burst YOUR bubble, but I meant 1600s. My mistake. :yogi:
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I'm inclined to call it a clever marketing technique to glean inerest in a game that has NOTHING to do with the series but is aimed at a similar audience...I just can't buy it being anything Phoenix/Edgeworth/Attorney related.

And no, Witch Trials is NOT enough to bait me into that argument either...needs more evidence.

I wouldn't mind that actually. Shu Takumi did finish Ghost Trick recently...

Perhaps that "Gyakuten XXX" which was in the twitter thing + Takumi is this Witch Trial thing? (Although trial is saiban, not gyakuten, so hmmm....)
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Neni wrote:
Xpeki wrote:
Mousery wrote:
Witches=magic=magicians=troupe gramarye.


Gramayre = Trucy Wright = Apollo Justice

This game is AJ2! :odoroki:



You are aware that this would mean that Trucy will be burned on the stake? :yuusaku:


:lol:

Although, I'm more disturbed that :sillytrucy: = :odo-objection:
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I'm interested in the exact meaning/connotations of the word translated as 'witch'. Does it really mean the fantasy lady riding around on a broom [or someone who similar paranoia springs around], or the more general 'dissident' we want to eliminate in a witchhunt. Don't assume it's in Salem just because it's a 'witch trial'. The witchhunt/demonisation/scapegoat phenomenon has occurred throughout history, a great way to dispose of people whose ideas or ideals or individuality might be 'dangerous'. Joan of Arc, Galileo, Pythagoras, 'ritual' stonings, McCarthyism, the Holocaust (well that was scapegoating, and a witchhunt is targeted at an individual, but it's a similar phenomenon) et al.

And this could end up being a letdown like a char (Edgeworth to tie in with GK2?) making a very small cameo in some other franchise's anime/game etc.

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Witches=magic=magicians=troupe gramarye.

Gramayre = Trucy Wright = Apollo Justice

This game is AJ2! :odoroki:


No, everyone knows magicians are fake, nobody would brand them with evil supernatural powers the way 'witch trial' indicates. But who knows, Apollo could be making the cameo. Maybe Kristoph is tried as a demon? (Or not. But they did go on about him being 'the devil'.) The Feys are the obvious target of a supernatural witchunt since they have um, canonic supernatural powers, but I'm not confident they want to return to the Feys. Still, could be our prequel with Misty and Mia, which sounds a lot easier to write than Maya or Pearl being burned at the stake post AJ.
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Saiban does mean "court" though.
Gyakuten means "turnabout" or "to turn the tables".
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Bad Player wrote:
Perhaps that "Gyakuten XXX" which was in the twitter thing + Takumi is this Witch Trial thing? (Although trial is saiban, not gyakuten, so hmmm....)
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Saiban does mean "court" though.
Gyakuten means "turnabout" or "to turn the tables".
Good point... The first announcement was "Gyakuten XX," but the witch trial thing is "__ Saiban."
Makes me think they're not the same thing.

It's awesome to see that this new thing probably has to do with Edgeworth('s desk) after all (as opposed to something from a past century)... and I'll gladly believe the novel theory. :keiko: (As long as it gets translated! D=)



...And, gaaaah, that on-and-off text is getting really annoying!! :zenitora:

I haven't been keeping track of the times myself, but, going by a terribly rough estimation based on the C-R posts...
It first disappeared before 3AM on the 12th, and reappeared by 7PM that evening.
Maybe it's gone during the daytime and there during the nighttime? The power of darkness! It is witchcraft, I say!

...*1-1 flashback*
Wait -- time zone differences, duh~!
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Japan is 17 hours ahead of C-R's standard time (hope I got that right), so that would mean it disappeared before 8 PM on the 12th and reappeared by noon on the 13th.

...So maybe it's actually there during the daytime and disappears at night...? :nick-sweat: *more confused than before*

It was gone again by 1AM on the 13th (in Japan, 6PM on the 13th) ... and, I don't know if it changed any between then and now, but...

It's now approximately 10:30AM Oct. 14 on C-R and 3:30AM Oct. 15 in Japan... and the text is still gone...


Spoiler: Summary schedule, using Japanese times:
10/12
-----text @ 11:30 AM
-----no text @ 8:00 PM
10/13
-----text @ 12:00 PM
-----no text @ 6:00 PM
10/14
-----???
10/15
-----no text @ 3:30 AM

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Letters still gone. Don't know if they had reappeared while I was gone, but they aren't there right now.

And I still think that, whatever this is, it most certainly concerns the Feys. My wildest (but still sensible) guess is that, in this new media, Edgeworth is writing a book about Misty Fey's life after DL-6, until the time of her death.

After all, it concerns Miles' own past, something I still want the series to explore. And after 3-5, he probably wanted to know where Misty really was and what she was doing before getting killed. It's clear to all of us that DL-6 left a huge impression in Miles' mind, so it wouldn't be surprising if he did that.

But who knows what this is. It could still be an announcement regarding GK2's main storyline (which could concern the Fey clan), since all we know is it concerns a book, somebody writing something, the words "Majo Saiban", and the "???x???", um, label :/

Also, trying to find a meaning in the times when the text's on and off is just silly. I think it's just Capcom playing with us.
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In reference to tracking the appearance and disappearance of the title, no harm no fowl. I say the worst that can happen is that it's a waste of time. The best is that we can un-earth a pattern. It's not like the fandom has anything better to do at this point.
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I'm interested in the exact meaning/connotations of the word translated as 'witch'.

I asked my japanese friend, and she said that "majo" in kanji basically literally means "evil/magical woman" so... yeah. A witch xD

Edgey writing a book or researching Misty or something would fit in with this, and his character/past.
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I'm interested in the exact meaning/connotations of the word translated as 'witch'.

I asked my japanese friend, and she said that "majo" in kanji basically literally means "evil/magical woman" so... yeah. A witch xD

Edgey writing a book or researching Misty or something would fit in with this, and his character/past.


Mmm... I'm not so sure. Assuming that the version of the book with the title on the front is correct, a book on the Fey's wouldn't work. The Fey's are eastern. The book is western. (Of course, you could counter that point by exploiting the fact that the title is in Japanese and therefore eastern)

Also, has anyone actually bothered to look at Edgy's desk?

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Yes, Edgy does have a quill, a tray, and a bottle of ink. He also has a computer and a phone. You could make the case that those items are off screen, but that doesn't make it any less suspicious to have only items that are obviously archaic in nature.

...Never mind that Edgy's ink tray has a slot for his quill. The one on the website does not.
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Eh, that desk and Edgey's desk have more in common in terms of the stuff on them than anything else I can think of... Plus it's just speculation, no harm in coming up with theories that involve Edgey xD
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Maybe XXXXxXXXX is some kind of crossover? It can't be GK2 as thats already been announced...


So, Phoenix confirmed for Marvel vs Capcom 3?
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Oh my...whatever this is it seems quite epic! ^^

Maybe it's like, all their distant great great great grandfathers or whatever and they all like knew eachother then...like their fates were meant to cross paths.

I reckon it's a game. but it won't be out until LONG after GK2. they just decided to hype it really early to BOOST SALES
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If majo means "magical woman", I think its something to do with Misty Fey, or maybe Ami.
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Wooster wrote:
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icer wrote:
I'm interested in the exact meaning/connotations of the word translated as 'witch'.

I asked my japanese friend, and she said that "majo" in kanji basically literally means "evil/magical woman" so... yeah. A witch xD

Edgey writing a book or researching Misty or something would fit in with this, and his character/past.


Mmm... I'm not so sure. Assuming that the version of the book with the title on the front is correct, a book on the Fey's wouldn't work. The Fey's are eastern. The book is western. (Of course, you could counter that point by exploiting the fact that the title is in Japanese and therefore eastern)

Also, has anyone actually bothered to look at Edgy's desk?

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Yes, Edgy does have a quill, a tray, and a bottle of ink. He also has a computer and a phone. You could make the case that those items are off screen, but that doesn't make it any less suspicious to have only items that are obviously archaic in nature.

...Never mind that Edgy's ink tray has a slot for his quill. The one on the website does not.

If it's about a GS game, the similarities between both desks could suggest that it could take place in the past, how far away? I'm gonna try and narrow it down:

.....a.)it takes place when people began using those sort of writing tools
.....b.)it takes place before they stopped using those sort of writing tools
.....c)it takes place in the present time of GK2 in a place where someone uses those writing tools
.....d)it takes place after GS4 in a place where someone uses those writing tools

Also, something on the personal side~
Is it just me, or do I imagine Shelly DeKiller using those types of writing tools?
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Probably not related but i have seen a japanese dorama whose name is Maijo Saiban. It was in tv last year. While i was seeing the dorama i thought that it was very similar than a case of Gykuten no sabain, . I don,t know if the dorama was a success or not, nevertheless it,s very usual in Japan to see adjustments of the manga to the video game or videogame to manga.

In any case it,s strange to see a new gykuten,s game after the annuncement of Gykuten Kenji 2. Maybe a new plot? with new characters, time and places?

I can,t wait to discover what it is.

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You're all wrong.

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Oh, I laughed so hard! xD
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Ceres wrote:
You're all wrong.

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God help us all.
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:-D
Could the scales on the book mean anything?
In a trial, the arguments must "balance" so the truth can be found.. interesting....
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:-D
Could the scales on the book mean anything?
In a trial, the arguments must "balance" so the truth can be found.. interesting....

The scales are the same as the ones on the attorney badge, so I think it's just to connect it to the series.
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Good point! I forgot the scales on the badge.
But if they feature on the attorney badge, IMO this points to it being about Nick/Apollo.
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Those are just the Scales of Justice (which is why they're on attorney badges in Japan). Not very strange to be on something related to witch trials
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grim_tales wrote:
Good point! I forgot the scales on the badge.
But if they feature on the attorney badge, IMO this points to it being about Nick/Apollo.


I thought it was pretty obvious that the scales meant law. As in, you know, an entire series based on law.
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