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Have people seen this article and particularly, this image:
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I can't speak Japanese, but to me, it seems to confirm that Phoenix will be in the Kingdom of Kurain and Apollo will be back in Japanifornia. I think people had only assumed this to be the case up until now, right?
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Nurio wrote:
I can't speak Japanese, but to me, it seems to confirm that Phoenix will be in the Kingdom of Kurain and Apollo will be back in Japanifornia. I think people had only assumed this to be the case up until now, right?

That was confirmed to be the case a while a go. The official site says this too.
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I don't know the proper words to describe her official art from DD, but it just doesn't look right. It didn't really capture her proportions the same way she appeared in the game. But that could just be the angle and/or pose.


I'm not sure exactly what you mean, but now that I think about it she always looked womanly in the posters and the DD artwork, like 26 or something, while she looks much more petite and chippier in the game I felt. (and she's bloody 18 years old)
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Nurio wrote:
I can't speak Japanese, but to me, it seems to confirm that Phoenix will be in the Kingdom of Kurain and Apollo will be back in Japanifornia. I think people had only assumed this to be the case up until now, right?

That was confirmed to be the case a while a go. The official site says this too.

Really? Huh. Must've missed that then. I never saw a confirmation, only people surmising this.
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Well, they'll probably treat you like they did Klavier in AA5 but...hey, it's Athena!

Regarding that possibility, how long after the initial announcement of Dual Destinies was Klaver's inclusion confirmed? Obviously if it was close to 4 months after that could indicate that she will have a small role here but if it happened significantly later in the development that would imply a larger role for Athena.
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What does free investigation mean? :lana:

On top of the already mentioned facts free investigations by there very nature allow for examining more objects which why they may be irrelevant often result in interesting dialogue.
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the problem with 3D models is that they are so damn expressionless. Most of their emotions are conveyed through body language. The eyes are just so blank. I noticed it also when watching Kingdom Hearts and when comparing Professor Layton and Miracle Mask to other PL games.
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I imagine it can be difficult to show language through eyes well when animating anyway.
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That is not the fault of the technology. That's the fault of the animators.


Agreed. Like I noticed the problem was really intense in PWvsPL with the characters looking bland and emotionless. Fortunately that game had other cool things to save it.

Contrast with DD where I felt the characters were much better and more expressive. From what I've seen of DGS and the work it does with eyes, they only improve in expression.
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MoonRaven wrote:
the problem with 3D models is that they are so damn expressionless. Most of their emotions are conveyed through body language. The eyes are just so blank. I noticed it also when watching Kingdom Hearts and when comparing Professor Layton and Miracle Mask to other PL games.

henke37 wrote:
That is not the fault of the technology. That's the fault of the animators.


Henke's right. You just talked about Professor Layton and the Miracle Mask, but it's noticeable that Azran Legacy's 3D greatly improved. Miracle Mask's 3D models looked... clunky, awkward, and stiff. Azran Legacy's was much more fluid and polished; even Luke's and Emmy's facial expressions looked more like their original ones and had more life. As for Layton, well... Layton's eyes will always be Layton's eyes xD

PL vs AA's was a lot worse than MM or AL. If it was a problem with the technology, then it would never have improved.

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Regarding that possibility, how long after the initial announcement of Dual Destinies was Klaver's inclusion confirmed?


Well, I don't remember when he was announced announced (as in showing us his official art and a little blurb about him) but I remember when he appeared in some screen shots at the end of a trailer and everyone was like "OMG, KLAVIER!" The game was released in July and I think that trailer came out in April, maybe March.
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If it was March or April it would mean that he was first shown about six to seven months after the initial trailer that came out mid September the previous year. For comparison Athena was shown around 3 and a half months after this games' initial trailer (Sept.1-Dec.18). If that is the case it would imply that Athena's role will be larger than Klavier's.
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Any thoughts on the poster there?

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Did Mr. Hat get an upgrade, or is that an actual human in a mask/white makeup behind Trucy?

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Jean Descole wrote:
Any thoughts on the poster there?

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Looks like a Scooby doo villain.
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Jean Descole wrote:
Any thoughts on the poster there?

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Did Mr. Hat get an upgrade, or is that an actual human in a mask/white makeup behind Trucy?

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Definitely a person, probably the accused if not Trucy; or if Trucy, the real culprit killer. Let's face it, it's gotta be a murder by masked (wo)man.
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MoonRaven wrote:
the problem with 3D models is that they are so damn expressionless. Most of their emotions are conveyed through body language. The eyes are just so blank. I noticed it also when watching Kingdom Hearts and when comparing Professor Layton and Miracle Mask to other PL games.



Honestly I hated the 3d models for a different reason. This being that back in the original trilogy when they used 2D sprites I would notice all the small details and appreciate them. Such as in JFA when gumshoe lost his coat and had bandages around his head or in T&T when phoenix drank coffee with godot. For some reason I couldn't seem to appreciate the small things with the 3d models (perhaps because once you create the model you dont have to redraw it when they do a different action so less work was sorta put into it). And they tried to make the 3D models act like the sprites from the trilogy and AJ which felt unnatural. They could have done it a lot better just like how DGS handled their 3d character models.
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Rubia Ryu the Royal wrote:
Jean Descole wrote:
Any thoughts on the poster there?

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Did Mr. Hat get an upgrade, or is that an actual human in a mask/white makeup behind Trucy?

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Definitely a person, probably the accused if not Trucy; or if Trucy, the real culprit killer. Let's face it, it's gotta be a murder by masked (wo)man.


Or it could always be the victim. If that's Trucy's co-star or something, then her being arrested for it would make more sense.
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Just remember to ask Oldbag if she saw the costume or the person wearing it.

At first I laughed, but then I realized how terrible it'd be if she's back.

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Or it could always be the victim. If that's Trucy's co-star or something, then her being arrested for it would make more sense.

Certainly, but anyone can put on a mask and pretend to be the baddie, even Nick the victim.
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We have Bokuto instead of Oldbag, now :P
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I actually kind of miss Oldbag.

...what am I saying no I don't. I miss Larry Butz though.
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Rubia Ryu the Royal wrote:
henke37 wrote:
Just remember to ask Oldbag if she saw the costume or the person wearing it.

At first I laughed, but then I realized how terrible it'd be if she's back.


Hmm... well, after nine years, is she still alive?
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Jean Descole wrote:
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Just remember to ask Oldbag if she saw the costume or the person wearing it.

At first I laughed, but then I realized how terrible it'd be if she's back.


Hmm... well, after nine years, is she still alive?

I'm 90% sure Oldbag is immortal.
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Jean Descole wrote:
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henke37 wrote:
Just remember to ask Oldbag if she saw the costume or the person wearing it.

At first I laughed, but then I realized how terrible it'd be if she's back.


Hmm... well, after nine years, is she still alive?

She's like Batman, she's so stubborn she'll outlive everyone.
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I am now legitimately horrified at the possibility that the team is willing to bring her back for no reason (since she never needed a reason anyway) and scare some kids and attorneys. Not that I don't like her, mind, but that she's always guaranteed to be the source of some gag that may become a running one.

And unless Bokuto gains a boy-crush on Phoenix like Juniper did for Apollo, I don't see him as much of a gag character... No, wait. I hope that does happen, so that he'd start calling Phoenix his uncle. Another win for the Wright Orphanage Agency.
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