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I don't like it. Same way I don't like Mask of Miracle's 3D models, bringing Phoenix into the third dimension just seems... wrong. I would have much preferred high definition and detail sprites with fluid animation; 3D backgrounds would be fine.

Layton looks a bit blocky in the screen with him and Phoenix, and the scene looks a bit... plastic-like. There's no emotion, they're both deadpan; where are the over-exaggerated facial expression synonymous with Ace Attorney?

I know it's Level 5 and I can't expect them to hold completely true to Capcom's visual style, but even so...

The article mentions the new "Mob Judgment" system, in which Phoenix goes up against a crowd of witnesses. Witnesses may talk amongst themselves during a cross-examination. The article wonders if traditional Ace Attorney tactics and common sense will be any good here.

If there's one thing Level-5 are good at, it's making 3D models look convincingly like anime drawings. I think they'll look a lot better in motion than on a static screen.

So far, this game is looking absolutely beautiful! Day one purchase for me, if it ever gets here. (Glares in Capcom's direction..)

Day one purchase for me, if it ever gets here. (Glares in Capcom's direction..)

Layton's beady little eyes look so vacant and soulless as he stares off in to space.

So a knight prosecutor... First whips and now a sword? Don't worry, Nick. You got this.

nevertalk wrote:

Layton's beady little eyes look so vacant and soulless as he stares off in to space.

So a knight prosecutor... First whips and now a sword? Don't worry, Nick. You got this.

I didn't even consider that! Here's to hoping the new prosecutor doesn't share Franziskas violent behaviour :meekins:

I would also like to start bets on who handles the music. PW:AA composer Masakazu Sugimori, historic AA composer Noriyuki Iwadare (T&T, AAI, AAI2, the Turnabout Orchestra concerts and the Turnabout Jazz Soul album), or lifetime PL composer Tomohito Nishiura? Or mabye Nishiura and one of the other two? OR MAYBE ALL THREE OF THEM!?

Author:	Bolt Storm [ Wed Sep 14, 2011 3:56 pm ]
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TGS is starting, and with it comes our first real look at Professor Layton vs. Gyakuten Saiban in advance of Capcom's stage shows tomorrow and Friday. (The new prosecutor, Jiiken Baanroddo) Spoiler: Additonal pictures and art from Famitsu (credit JapaneseGIRL) From Famitsu The article mentions the new "Mob Judgment" system, in which Phoenix goes up against a crowd of witnesses. Witnesses may talk amongst themselves during a cross-examination. The article wonders if traditional Ace Attorney tactics and common sense will be any good here. At the moment, Layton's role is unclear. Spoiler: TGS Booth (credit JapaneseGIRL) Check out the following for more information: Andriasang recap 1Up article with Famitsu interview recap

Author:	Jack Lamber [ Wed Sep 14, 2011 4:01 pm ]
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Now THESE are acceptable 3d models!

Author:	Blak The Great [ Wed Sep 14, 2011 4:04 pm ]
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Damn, now I have to somehow get a job so I can actually buy a 3DS.

Author:	Professor Yoshi [ Wed Sep 14, 2011 4:07 pm ]
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These are great. One thing, though. Is that new prosecutor a knight?! I know that the town is like a medieval sort of deal, but wow! Now I've seen everything!

Author:	Wolverfrog [ Wed Sep 14, 2011 4:21 pm ]
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I don't like it. Same way I don't like Mask of Miracle's 3D models, bringing Phoenix into the third dimension just seems... wrong. I would have much preferred high definition and detail sprites with fluid animation; 3D backgrounds would be fine. Layton looks a bit blocky in the screen with him and Phoenix, and the scene looks a bit... plastic-like. There's no emotion, they're both deadpan; where are the over-exaggerated facial expression synonymous with Ace Attorney? I know it's Level 5 and I can't expect them to hold completely true to Capcom's visual style, but even so...

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Author:	Popo-Licious [ Wed Sep 14, 2011 4:38 pm ]
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Wolverfrog wrote: I don't like it. Same way I don't like Mask of Miracle's 3D models, bringing Phoenix into the third dimension just seems... wrong. I would have much preferred high definition and detail sprites with fluid animation; 3D backgrounds would be fine. Layton looks a bit blocky in the screen with him and Phoenix, and the scene looks a bit... plastic-like. There's no emotion, they're both deadpan; where are the over-exaggerated facial expression synonymous with Ace Attorney? I know it's Level 5 and I can't expect them to hold completely true to Capcom's visual style, but even so... I'm sure they still need to put the finishing touches on the graphics. The game is still a long way off from being completed, and these are the first "real" screenshots they've been able to release, so they'll probably polish everything up towards the end of development. :3

Author:	Wolverfrog [ Wed Sep 14, 2011 4:41 pm ]
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Hopefully. Ace Attorney is my favourite handheld game series, closely followed by Professor Layton, so I really do hope that this is done well and released over here. I suppose 3D models will allow there to be some more dynamic moments.

Author:	irishmarcoos [ Wed Sep 14, 2011 4:55 pm ]
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Remember the game will actually be in 3D, so it will probably be clearer when viewing them in that format :) I am loving it! Now all we need is music samples

Author:	shadowofedgeworth [ Wed Sep 14, 2011 4:59 pm ]
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Bolt Storm wrote: I can live with this, the characters actually look somewhat hand-drawn. Bolt Storm wrote: Ughh...dear God, whyyyyyy? Bolt Storm wrote: Wonderful art. I notice that older Luke is being used here instead of younger Luke. Thoughts? Bolt Storm wrote: The article mentions the new "Mob Judgment" system, in which Phoenix goes up against a crowd of witnesses. Witnesses may talk amongst themselves during a cross-examination. The article wonders if traditional Ace Attorney tactics and common sense will be any good here. Sounds interesting! Wolverfrog wrote: I don't like it. Same way I don't like Mask of Miracle's 3D models, bringing Phoenix into the third dimension just seems... wrong. I would have much preferred high definition and detail sprites with fluid animation You and me both. BELIEVE me. Guess I should reserve judgment, though.

Author:	Marche Tobaye [ Wed Sep 14, 2011 5:21 pm ]
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Whoa, this is cool. I can't wait.

Author:	Toby Danger [ Wed Sep 14, 2011 5:24 pm ]
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If there's one thing Level-5 are good at, it's making 3D models look convincingly like anime drawings. I think they'll look a lot better in motion than on a static screen. So far, this game is looking absolutely beautiful! Day one purchase for me, if it ever gets here. (Glares in Capcom's direction..)

Author:	Bad Player [ Wed Sep 14, 2011 5:27 pm ]
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Translations of the screenshots (I think; someone with more skill in Japanese can correct me xD) Maya: We did it, Nick! Mahone: You're wrong! I'm not a witch... Nick: (It's started. In this strange world... a <witch trial>!) Layton+Nick: Objection! Paasa(?): That... take it! (not really sure about this one ^^') (no text) Jiikan: The preparations for the "witch trial" have been completed. In terms of graphics, I think everyone but Nick and Layton look pretty good. I wish Maya's hair was darker, too.... (also 4000th post. was saving it for something big, buuuuuut...)

Author:	Pierre [ Wed Sep 14, 2011 6:03 pm ]
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Yeah can't say I'm a fan of the graphics. The Knight looks awesome and Maya looks fine but my god look at the dead emotionless expression on Phoenix as he objects.

Author:	Bad Player [ Wed Sep 14, 2011 6:14 pm ]
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Actually, I think Maya is saying "Let's do it, Nick!" instead of "We did it, Nick!"

Author:	DeMatador [ Thu Sep 15, 2011 12:08 am ]
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M-MY MY GOD I was expecting semi-HD 2D sprites, BUT THIS IS GORGEOUS. Phoenix in that close-up, Witch Girl (Mahoney?), Knight Prosecutor Guy (Jiiken?), Maya! They look almost hand-drawn over 3D models. Without even mentioning that promo art, since comparing it to in-game material would be unfair. It's all so beautiful... Except for Layton and Phoenix objecting, but that's clearly early promo art, since, come on, in what part of the game would they both pose in the middle of a courtroom and fancily object both ways? Besides, Phoenix's face in that screenshot is clearly cut and pasted from his T&T profile, evidenced by his blank stare. And Layton's model is taken straightly from PL5, I'm sure of it (the lighting on his clothes being different than on his tophat demonstrating that it's very roughly presented, therefore definitely not final). Based on this, you guys should notice that all the 3D models that they're actually going to use look amazing. I can't wait to see Layton and Luke in there, and a moving scene! I'm hoping this is included in the TGS trailer. JESUS CHRIST I'M HYPED FOR THAT TRAILER, I need more music, more cutscenes, gameplay, a release window, I JUST NEED MORE OF THIS GAME. Now that I mention Luke, he's young!Luke in the first trailer and older!Luke in this promo art... I guess the first trailer was just a really huge concept trailer, and the one we get this week is like the first REAL trailer, making it EVEN HARDER TO WAIT FOR. People who don't think the 3D models will look good: Please watch videos of PL5. They work, and very beautifully so, both graphically and movement/animation-wise. But basically, gameplay-wise, this is an Ace Attorney game! A new Ace Attorney game! By the way, according to 1UP the Famitsu interview mentions that there actually are Layton-style puzzle segments, but it still hasn't been announced how they blend into everything. My idea: Court phases are AA-style and Investigation phases are PL5-style, puzzles included. That would honestly blow my mind. Also lol at knight!Klavier. I would also like to start bets on who handles the music. PW:AA composer Masakazu Sugimori, historic AA composer Noriyuki Iwadare (T&T, AAI, AAI2, the Turnabout Orchestra concerts and the Turnabout Jazz Soul album), or lifetime PL composer Tomohito Nishiura? Or mabye Nishiura and one of the other two? OR MAYBE ALL THREE OF THEM!?

Author:	tayo [ Thu Sep 15, 2011 12:21 am ]
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For the new screenshots. Man: "Let me speak! That girl is a witch!" Phoenix: "Ugh. Is everyone here like this?" Layton: "It is because magic is practiced in this world. Mister Wright."

Author:	MercuryKitten [ Wed Sep 14, 2011 7:22 pm ]
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Pfft I'm so excited for this. While I am a big fan of 2D graphics for games of this style, I'm reserving judgement of the 3D graphics until I actually see them in action. Early concept screenshots probably aren't doing what they'll actually look like in motion during game play justice, and knowing what both teams have done with 3D in the past, I have some faith that it'll look nice. But the plot just sounds so neat, and it's going to be great playing as non-Hobo Nick and Maya again. I love Polly and Edgey but I do miss them ;-;

Author:	Javadoze [ Wed Sep 14, 2011 7:33 pm ]
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There are no words for this, only excitement.

Author:	MiaFeyFan [ Wed Sep 14, 2011 8:19 pm ]
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THIS IS WONDERFUL, JUST WONDERFUL! I can't wait to hear more about it! Toby Danger wrote: Day one purchase for me, if it ever gets here. (Glares in Capcom's direction..)

Author:	mai [ Wed Sep 14, 2011 8:41 pm ]
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I love Maya's expression in the artwork. She looks so... determined! I also like the designs of the defendant and the new prosecutor. They look pretty cool. ~~Why do I get the feeling that I'm going to end up shipping them...~~ I like the 3D models. They always look better in the actual console than in screenshots/scans, anyway. Also, I hadn't realized how much I had missed Nick and Maya... it's good to see them again!

Author:	dirtypantsdan [ Wed Sep 14, 2011 8:56 pm ]
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Oh wow, screenshots! The artwork looks fantastic as always, though I hope the 3D models turn out to be just as expressive as the sprites once we see them in motion. I wonder if we'll get the classic trial music from the first AA, It would be pretty neat if we got to hear all of them (JFA & T&T etc) as the trial sessions continue through out the whole game, original music would be great too.

Author:	nekonohime [ Wed Sep 14, 2011 10:07 pm ]
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FINALLY SOME NEWS ABOUT THIS THING. This honestly has some really beautiful artwork. The styles of Layton and Ace Attorney don't clash at all. They fit so nicely here. I can't wait to see more.

Author:	FinalClipX [ Wed Sep 14, 2011 10:12 pm ]
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When I saw this at school I literally about yelled "YES! YES! GOSHYESYESYESYESYESYES!"! The 3D models definitely need working on but I'm sure they'll be fine. ... For some reason, Jiiken reminds me greatly of Klaiver. Both his expression and "pointing" just look like him. The Mob Judgement will be... interesting. Poor Phoenix. XD All in all, this game is looking pretty sweet~ I'm sure Level-5 will localize it here... so I'll definitely pick it up day one.

Author:	Bjc72 [ Wed Sep 14, 2011 10:36 pm ]
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Graphics look amazing, I think people just have a slight case of nostalgia fever.... Either way I can assure that once the game comes out and people play it, the majority of the fanbase will like the new graphic style. (Think Wind Waker)

Author:	nevertalk [ Wed Sep 14, 2011 10:54 pm ]
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Layton's beady little eyes look so vacant and soulless as he stares off in to space. So a knight prosecutor... First whips and now a sword? Don't worry, Nick. You got this.

Author:	Jack Lamber [ Wed Sep 14, 2011 11:05 pm ]
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nevertalk wrote: Layton's beady little eyes look so vacant and soulless as he stares off in to space. So a knight prosecutor... First whips and now a sword? Don't worry, Nick. You got this. I didn't even consider that! Here's to hoping the new prosecutor doesn't share Franziskas violent behaviour

Author:	DoMaya [ Wed Sep 14, 2011 11:10 pm ]
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I came

Author:	dancingpoppies [ Wed Sep 14, 2011 11:21 pm ]
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Jack Lamber wrote: nevertalk wrote: Layton's beady little eyes look so vacant and soulless as he stares off in to space. So a knight prosecutor... First whips and now a sword? Don't worry, Nick. You got this. I didn't even consider that! Here's to hoping the new prosecutor doesn't share Franziskas violent behaviour True, but I doubt he'll be able to throw that sword around or Nick's injuries from court will be bloody..... I think he looks interesting though! :) I can't wait for the game already!

Author:	Yaragorm [ Wed Sep 14, 2011 11:38 pm ]
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I too don't really care for Phoenix's new look but will reserve judgement until actually seeing it in action on a 3DS. I can't wait to see some gameplay.

Author:	nevertalk [ Thu Sep 15, 2011 12:02 am ]
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DoMaya wrote: I came This calls for the Turnabout Sisters theme done in a Layton style. Get on it, Level 5.

Author:	tayo [ Thu Sep 15, 2011 12:11 am ]
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In order, my translation. Maya: "Let's do it, Nick!" Mahoney: "N-no! I'm not a witch..." Phoenix: "(Now it begins. In this strange world... the Witch Trial!)" Paasa: "Put that away!" Jiiken: "As for the judgment of this "witch"... it's conclusive."

Author:	JapaneseGIRL [ Thu Sep 15, 2011 12:11 am ]
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From Famitsu

Author:	Yaragorm [ Thu Sep 15, 2011 12:22 am ]
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JapaneseGIRL wrote: Oh man, Phoenix looks hilarious in that! Now that looks a lot better.

Author:	Bolt Storm [ Thu Sep 15, 2011 12:23 am ]
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Scans added to the original post. Thanks, JapaneseGIRL!

Author:	DeMatador [ Thu Sep 15, 2011 12:32 am ]
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JapaneseGIRL wrote: From Famitsu A man can't catch a break in here can he

Author:	Wooster [ Thu Sep 15, 2011 12:54 am ]
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The emblems on the knights' left arm plate catch my attention. Not unlike the emblem on Luke's book from the trailer matching the emblem used by the storyteller.