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First of all, sincere apologies for the downtime. Kind of puts a damper on this news, eh?
Anyways, as you may know, yesterday Capcom announced the boxart and limited editions for GS5, confirmed a 7/25 release date in Japan, and revamped the official GS5 site to introduce Jin Yuugami, case 2, and Apollo's return to court.
Case two sees Apollo and Kokone investigating the "Kitsune's Village", and features Apollo going up in court against Jin.
Meanwhile, e-Capcom is now accepting orders for the game, and has announced some extra editions as well. The Extended Edition nets you a 3DS carrying case; the Figurine Edition nets you a Phoenix figure; the Limited Edition gets you both.
Also, ordering any of them from e-Capcom gets you an alternate sleeve for the game, picked randomly from a set of 3 (unless you order the Limited Edition, in which case you'll get all three.) The Extended and Limited Editions also include stickers with SD versions of the characters on them.
UPDATE: irishmarcoos spotted some extra screens and artwork on the amazon.co.jp page, including pictures of the bottom screen.
Spoiler: Additional screens/art
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The site has been updated with so many exciting new things, that little statuette is awesome and would look great next to my other figurines. Here's to hoping the west gets a similar deal.
Would totally love a limited edition set.
Though....isn't this an incredible bizarre and unusual amount of merchandising to give to AA on release? I've never heard of anything like this for an AA game before.
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Finally, back in business.
From what I've gathered from glancing at Tumblr comments, people are either super hyped or somewhat discouraged about the information coming out. It's hard to follow anything, let alone discuss things, over there, so I'm interested to see a real discussion on here (beyond the three or so people I've been talking to on IRC).
Here are a few random thoughts I have, most of which I already expressed on IRC.
Jin is the most over-the-top designed prosecutor so far (try to name all the reasons why), and I see that being a bit too much for some people. Personally, I hope he has good motivations, otherwise he's going to be a what-you-see-is-what-you-get character.
Alternate outfits are really strange in a visual novel game, let alone via DLC, and I don't think any other visual novels do that because, well, it's pointless. I can only think of one visual novel that has (not DLC) costume changing, and it made sense: Analogue: A Hate Story. At least right now those outfits are just an incentive to buy the game early, but I'm sure people will complain more if it turns into paid DLC later.
Not really a fan of any of the alternate outfits, although I notice that the classic Phoenix outfit removes his hair lock, which is an interesting detail. I wonder if the reason these outfits exist in the first place is because at least one was fully modeled at some point, but they were dropped in favor of the current designs.
Character designs in this game are definitely a bit different from the other AA games. Phoenix and Apollo's irises are HUGE. While I wouldn't say the sprites in past AA games were realistic, they at least looked natural enough to me. But these eyes make Phoenix look feminine from the front perspective, at least to me. Apollo's nose looks a bit weird from the front too. I can get used to it, and the translation from sprite to 3D model isn't easy, but the little things in the designs just feel a bit off.
And as usual, Japan gets ton of pre-order bonuses. Probably won't come to the US, even though a few localized games (like Ni No Kuni) have been getting preorder bonuses in the US lately.
I am still generally positive about this game. Just cautiously optimistic.
Now that we have in-game shots of Apollo, who is playable in the second case, I wonder where bandaged Apollo comes from. Are the screenshots of Apollo in court directly correlated to Case 2, or could those screenshots be from anywhere? Even so, it puts the theory of Apollo getting hurt in the bombing into question, although the theory isn't disproven.
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That Phoenix statue is awesome, and if I could I would buy it in a heartbeat. Too bad most e-capcom stuff tends to stay exclusive to Japan, from what I understand.
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blahmoomoo wrote:
(reposting here because more discussion is likely going to happen in the new thread)
Finally, back in business.
From what I've gathered from glancing at Tumblr comments, people are either super hyped or somewhat discouraged about the information coming out. It's hard to follow anything, let alone discuss things, over there, so I'm interested to see a real discussion on here (beyond the three or so people I've been talking to on IRC).
Here are a few random thoughts I have, most of which I already expressed on IRC.
Jin is the most over-the-top designed prosecutor so far (try to name all the reasons why), and I see that being a bit too much for some people. Personally, I hope he has good motivations, otherwise he's going to be a what-you-see-is-what-you-get character.
Alternate outfits are really strange in a visual novel game, let alone via DLC, and I don't think any other visual novels do that because, well, it's pointless. I can only think of one visual novel that has (not DLC) costume changing, and it made sense: Analogue: A Hate Story. At least right now those outfits are just an incentive to buy the game early, but I'm sure people will complain more if it turns into paid DLC later.
Not really a fan of any of the alternate outfits, although I notice that the classic Phoenix outfit removes his hair lock, which is an interesting detail. I wonder if the reason these outfits exist in the first place is because at least one was fully modeled at some point, but they were dropped in favor of the current designs.
Character designs in this game are definitely a bit different from the other AA games. Phoenix and Apollo's irises are HUGE. While I wouldn't say the sprites in past AA games were realistic, they at least looked natural enough to me. But these eyes make Phoenix look feminine from the front perspective, at least to me. Apollo's nose looks a bit weird from the front too. I can get used to it, and the translation from sprite to 3D model isn't easy, but the little things in the designs just feel a bit off.
And as usual, Japan gets ton of pre-order bonuses. Probably won't come to the US, even though a few localized games (like Ni No Kuni) have been getting preorder bonuses in the US lately.
I am still generally positive about this game. Just cautiously optimistic.
Now that we have in-game shots of Apollo, who is playable in the second case, I wonder where bandaged Apollo comes from. Are the screenshots of Apollo in court directly correlated to Case 2, or could those screenshots be from anywhere? Even so, it puts the theory of Apollo getting hurt in the bombing into question, although the theory isn't disproven.
Finally, back in business.
From what I've gathered from glancing at Tumblr comments, people are either super hyped or somewhat discouraged about the information coming out. It's hard to follow anything, let alone discuss things, over there, so I'm interested to see a real discussion on here (beyond the three or so people I've been talking to on IRC).
Here are a few random thoughts I have, most of which I already expressed on IRC.
Jin is the most over-the-top designed prosecutor so far (try to name all the reasons why), and I see that being a bit too much for some people. Personally, I hope he has good motivations, otherwise he's going to be a what-you-see-is-what-you-get character.
Alternate outfits are really strange in a visual novel game, let alone via DLC, and I don't think any other visual novels do that because, well, it's pointless. I can only think of one visual novel that has (not DLC) costume changing, and it made sense: Analogue: A Hate Story. At least right now those outfits are just an incentive to buy the game early, but I'm sure people will complain more if it turns into paid DLC later.
Not really a fan of any of the alternate outfits, although I notice that the classic Phoenix outfit removes his hair lock, which is an interesting detail. I wonder if the reason these outfits exist in the first place is because at least one was fully modeled at some point, but they were dropped in favor of the current designs.
Character designs in this game are definitely a bit different from the other AA games. Phoenix and Apollo's irises are HUGE. While I wouldn't say the sprites in past AA games were realistic, they at least looked natural enough to me. But these eyes make Phoenix look feminine from the front perspective, at least to me. Apollo's nose looks a bit weird from the front too. I can get used to it, and the translation from sprite to 3D model isn't easy, but the little things in the designs just feel a bit off.
And as usual, Japan gets ton of pre-order bonuses. Probably won't come to the US, even though a few localized games (like Ni No Kuni) have been getting preorder bonuses in the US lately.
I am still generally positive about this game. Just cautiously optimistic.
Now that we have in-game shots of Apollo, who is playable in the second case, I wonder where bandaged Apollo comes from. Are the screenshots of Apollo in court directly correlated to Case 2, or could those screenshots be from anywhere? Even so, it puts the theory of Apollo getting hurt in the bombing into question, although the theory isn't disproven.
Eh how long have we waited for AA5?
Beggars can't be choosers I'm not really disheartened at all.
DLC is weird but entirely optional.
Jin is a bit OTT but I wouldn't say he's moreso than Godot was with his freaking Cyclops mask. If anything his smile and attire just remind me of a dark Klavier.
Also I actually thought Phoenix looked manlier, probably because he's well....grown a bit? I dunno but his finger pointing seems as powerful as ever.
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Fun fact: I'm pretty sure this is the first time in the series where every character on the cover is wearing a tie.
I wish they could make Apollo and Phoenix look as smooth and glossy as everyone else. Their character graphics at the defense bench seem just a little more obviously "3D" than everyone else's. Maybe it's just me.
blahmoomoo wrote:
Jin is the most over-the-top designed prosecutor so far (try to name all the reasons why), and I see that being a bit too much for some people. Personally, I hope he has good motivations, otherwise he's going to be a what-you-see-is-what-you-get character.
I know what you mean. When I first saw him, I thought, "I'm pretty sure none of the other prosecutors ever looked this ridiculous, even when I was just seeing them for the first time." If the developers have any mojo left, though, they'll make it work.
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And with SD you mean 2d hand drawn illustrations.
Yup. SD as in "super-deformed".
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Will they release all these special dlc when it comes out in north america?
Screw the DLC!
Okay maybe not since I'd like too.
But I really want that Phoenix statue! I'm probably gonna have to scrounge secondhand stores in Japan if we're not gonna get it here, but dammit Capcom I want it! And when I want something I'm going to use all the available resources I've got to get what I want!
Also, forums are working again! All the hype tried to tear C-R apart, and I even resorted to try use the old backup forums again. Man, it's a mess over there.
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At least they didn't do something drastic like making a character similar to Oldbag be the prosecutor. We can always be thankful for that.
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blahmoomoo wrote:
Character designs in this game are definitely a bit different from the other AA games. Phoenix and Apollo's irises are HUGE.
It's definitely a subjective topic, so I'm not about to say that you're wrong here, but what I noticed about the new models is that they're actually much closer to the games' official art than the sprites in previous games were. Not all of the sprites were as off-model as Phoenix and Edgeworth's court sprites, of course, but higher-resolution models offer a lot more room to add detail. Characters' eyes have always been very stylized in the series. It's just that this is actually being reflected in-game now. (Personally, I'm not thrilled about how developers for the 3DS all seem to think that sprites are outdated and that anyone who's Cool has to switch to using models, but that's a different can of worms...)
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Now that we have in-game shots of Apollo, who is playable in the second case, I wonder where bandaged Apollo comes from. Are the screenshots of Apollo in court directly correlated to Case 2, or could those screenshots be from anywhere? Even so, it puts the theory of Apollo getting hurt in the bombing into question, although the theory isn't disproven.
My guess is that Apollo's injuries indicate that he was in the courthouse when it was bombed, which makes me think that Case 2 will end with the bombing. It explains why we don't see him with the bandages in Case 2, or the coat, for that matter. If Case 2 is a flashback case like I suspect, it means that Yugami might not be the game's main prosecutor, but there was already a chance that he wouldn't be anyway, since there's no indication that he's going to face off against Phoenix yet.
As far as the pre-order bonuses go, I'm crossing my fingers that we'll get to see them overseas as well. Maybe I'm being too optimistic, or I've been spoiled but Atlus, but I think there actually is a chance that at least one will make its way over here. Probably not the figure, because those have never been that popular outside of Japan to my knowledge, but I think it's reasonable to expect that we'll see the stylus pouch or the alternate jackets!
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Anyway, looking at Jun's design and backstory just raises a ton of questions for me. Namely, why is he still allowed to prosecute despite being convicted of murder? Is he really guilty of that crime? Are his skills just that good? And most importantly, if prosecutors can still prosecute even after being convicted, then why did no one tell Manfred von Karma that? After all, if any prosecutor would be willing to stand in court after killing someone, it would be von Karma.
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Ben Lyon wrote:
Although regarding case 2, are we sure it's a flashback case? Because I thought I read somewhere about Kokone saying in the demo that case 1 was her first case, yet she's shown here helping Apollo in case 2. Couldn't it be possible that case 2 just takes place a few months after case 1 and Apollo has just healed and is eager to defend again?
That was just speculation on my part, so it's definitely not confirmed, but I definitely missed that detail. Makes me even more curious about what that coat was about, though.
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As for the game itself, I think I'm slowly boarding the hype train. I was definitely one of the naysayers about Jin when I first saw his picture, but in the day or two since he's been announced, he's kind of grown on me. I'm somewhat glad we won't have to deal with a prosecutor running into evidence that we don't get ourselves, since he'll be in jail whenever court isn't going on.
I have a theory as to how they could hype him up, though...
Spoiler:
Either that, or...
Spoiler:
Either way, I still want to know where in the world Phoenix got enough money to hire another lawyer as his assistant. The guy was barely making rent and had to live in his agency in order to get by. Now all of a sudden he's back up and running with a successful law office and a new hire within the year.
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TheBlarghMan wrote:
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Either that, or...
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Spoiler: These are just theories as well, but have spoilery details
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TheGreatJudgini wrote:
Has anyone else noticed the odd bracelet around the strange man's wrist? I'm pretty sure that's Apollo's bracelet. Is he Polly's crazy uncle, or something?
It's probably just something they wear around there. People say the NPCs kept mistaking Apollo for a horned ghost/demon so it's possible that the bracelet is one of their props for some reason, or maybe Apollo lost it and the guy found it and tried it on. I don't really know. o3o
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Most likely, the investigation environment is from case 2, and they threw in some case 1 elements so they wouldn't spoil anything.
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Bolt Storm wrote:
I wouldn't put too much stock in the investigation portions they showed off at the stage shows; in the past they've shown inaccurate investigation portions for the sake of promotion. AAI was announced with a crime scene that didn't actually exist in the final product, for instance.
Most likely, the investigation environment is from case 2, and they threw in some case 1 elements so they wouldn't spoil anything.
Most likely, the investigation environment is from case 2, and they threw in some case 1 elements so they wouldn't spoil anything.
Yeah, that's why I really shouldn't be thinking too much.
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Ben Lyon wrote:
Anyway, looking at Jun's design and backstory just raises a ton of questions for me. Namely, why is he still allowed to prosecute despite being convicted of murder? Is he really guilty of that crime? Are his skills just that good? And most importantly, if prosecutors can still prosecute even after being convicted, then why did no one tell Manfred von Karma that? After all, if any prosecutor would be willing to stand in court after killing someone, it would be von Karma.
The rules may well have been changed - it's been 10 years since AA1. That said, I ran his profile through Google Translate, and it seems like he is considered to be a "distortion of the law", whom uses a technique that involves Psychology, and is able "read the thoughts of others" - It sort of reads to me like they've got him in because he is skilled, but also maybe because there's no one else? In which case, I wonder if we'll get an explanation as to where Edgeworth, Franziska and Klavier are.
I'm thinking part of the central arc is going to be that Jin is innocent, and he wants to change the law that unjustly found him guilty, with the real culprit being caught in the final case.
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From the looks of it, one of characters seems to be based on Momotaro, whereas the other guy looks like a tanuki.
If I could I would buy that Limited Edition, I'm a sucker for special editions of things.
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Case two sees Apollo and Kokone investigating the "Kitsune's Village", and features Apollo going up in court against Jin.
Kyuubi Village, not Kitsune. Don't be misled by all the foxes around there.
But there shall only be one Great Fox, and that is...
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There are some tasty screens on the Amazon JP page for the game, you can see the bottom screen on some, and there are a few court images too.
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And that's pretty much all I have. I dunno what to think of controlling Apollo in Case 2, but then, hopefully they'll give him a decent personality and character development, so he won't feel so two-dimensional anymore.
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dapz wrote:
Where's Trucy!? (and why am I the first person to even mention her?)
This is all I care about. Screw this douche, where's Phoenix's gd daughter?
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dapz wrote:
Where's Trucy!? (and why am I the first person to even mention her?)
I've been wondering the same thing for a month now.
I hope nothing bad happened to her...And by a month I mean since Apollo was revealed to be in the game. So....more than that I guess.
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Nothing new here. Too bad, I'm sure all of us would have wanted to see Apollo and Jin in motion.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqcWPzgPe1E
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blahmoomoo wrote:
Looks like Capcom released a new trailer... except it's the exact same trailer as the TGS one. The only difference is that there is a release date at the end.
Nothing new here. Too bad, I'm sure all of us would have wanted to see Apollo and Jin in motion.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqcWPzgPe1E
Nothing new here. Too bad, I'm sure all of us would have wanted to see Apollo and Jin in motion.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqcWPzgPe1E
Hopefully they'll show a new trailer on the Nico Nico Douga event.
The only other chance I can think of is the launch trailer and that's still 3 months away.
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In screenshot 4, where we see Jin's back, isn't here this ornament on his jacket (or trenchcoat-like thing?) looking like the Gavin-"G"?
You know, what Klavier Gavin wore as necklace, his hair looked like it and so on..?
I mean, I can't find that again on his frontside or anywhere else in what we can see of him, but it just hit me when I saw it.
Does anyone think this could be more than just coincidence?
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