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Author:  et91 [ Tue Sep 02, 2008 10:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Judge as a villain in a case in this game
Discuss this idea.

I personally think it'd be great. It'd make for a very great final court showdown, as you'd have to prove his guilt without making it so obvious that he just ends the case then and there
Author:  DramaticaXIV2 [ Wed Sep 03, 2008 9:39 pm ]
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...I don't know what to say...
Author:  Gerkuman [ Wed Sep 03, 2008 11:03 pm ]
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Yeah, I just can't see it. He's too... nice.

That, and you'd have the whole fanbase up in arms. This isn't Bones, you know. (Cookie for the reference)
Author:  Knightmare [ Wed Sep 03, 2008 11:06 pm ]
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Nah, it wouldn't work. While not amazingly clever, he'd know when you're onto him, and completely dis-regard anything you were saying. Y'know, striking everything from the record and what not.
Besides, he's such a lovable character!! Udgey would never become a villain :3
Author:  Crazed Ninja [ Wed Sep 03, 2008 11:22 pm ]
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Who says Udgey has to be the evil judge?
GS5 could have a new judge, maybe. Make people wonder where Udgey went. Then in the last case, BAM! Udgey's the defendant!
Author:  DramaticaXIV2 [ Thu Sep 04, 2008 4:23 pm ]
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I think the old GS1-3 Judge is trapped in the painting. Then he escapes, and is accused of murdering the GS4 Judge.
Author:  Bad Player [ Thu Sep 04, 2008 7:24 pm ]
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Crazed Ninja wrote:
Who says Udgey has to be the evil judge?
GS5 could have a new judge, maybe. Make people wonder where Udgey went. Then in the last case, BAM! Udgey's the defendant!


Basically this xD

If there are 4 cases, the new judge would be the judge on the first and last case, Udgey will be judge on the 2nd case, and 3rd case is a toss-up. If there are 5 cases, it will start with the evil judge and alternate.
Author:  Herr X [ Thu Sep 04, 2008 9:02 pm ]
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While a Judge as the villian would be kind of a nice way to mix things up, because of the jury system, it wouldn't have the same impact it would have had on the previous games. With the old system, the Judge pretty much had complete control over the verdict. But now that the jurists decide, it would be less dramatic. It would still work, but just not as well. Then again, the jury is the only way you could win that trial, so that would have to be the climax, just like in GS4. Which would quite honestly suck.
Author:  Salutation Here [ Thu Sep 04, 2008 9:13 pm ]
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If they changed the Judge, wouldn't it be a bit obvious that it was to make the new one the killer? They'd have to try to provide a natural reason for the Judge to be different, like they did when introducing his brother.
Author:  Phoenix_Apollo [ Sat Sep 06, 2008 1:20 am ]
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I've always wanted to see a case that involved the Judge and his brother outside of the bench. :godot:
Author:  Ping' [ Sat Sep 06, 2008 7:02 am ]
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Quote:
I've always wanted to see a case that involved the Judge and his brother outside of the bench.

Don't worry, you'll see one soon ^^

As for the judge as a villain... it could definitely work, and there is a chance the final courtroom battle will be epic.
However, it would be a bit of an untwist as Karma logic is every AA fan's first lead.
Author:  Bad Player [ Sat Sep 06, 2008 2:03 pm ]
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Mr. X wrote:
While a Judge as the villian would be kind of a nice way to mix things up, because of the jury system, it wouldn't have the same impact it would have had on the previous games. With the old system, the Judge pretty much had complete control over the verdict. But now that the jurists decide, it would be less dramatic. It would still work, but just not as well. Then again, the jury is the only way you could win that trial, so that would have to be the climax, just like in GS4. Which would quite honestly suck.


The jury just decides the verdict. The judge still runs the trial and everything. So it would still work out.
Author:  Phoenix_Apollo [ Sat Sep 06, 2008 8:15 pm ]
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Maybe the Brudgey can be the judge on the trial of Udgey? (or vise-versa)

I've always wanted to see something like this. It would be very interesting, and give us another victim of the Gant Effect. :gant:

If they could combine that with a case where you play as both Apollo and Phoenix, it'd be the best case yet. :godot:
Author:  Bad Player [ Sun Sep 07, 2008 12:49 am ]
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Phoenix_Apollo wrote:
Maybe the Brudgey can be the judge on the trial of Udgey? (or vise-versa)


The only thing is that the judge would be the real killer, not the defendant.


Plus, Udgy can't be the defendant, 'cause then we'd find out his name! D:
Author:  Magnus Orion [ Sun Sep 07, 2008 1:59 am ]
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Judge would be too easy to break down.

I mean, he suffers a break down in 1-5 before realizing he's not on trial, and in JFA, he says I've never even heard of "gossip land" when he was asked if he was reading tabloids, to which phoenix comments that if the Judge was a witness, he'd do all of phoenix's work for him, and in 3-5 the Judge admits his deductions are almost never correct.
In other words, the judge wouldn't be intelleigent enough to disprove the evidence against him.
And if it were a different judge, it would be too obvious.
Author:  someOen [ Sun Sep 07, 2008 8:38 am ]
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Udgy as a defendant? Then they would have to make a new judge, he could be a murderer.
Author:  grim_tales [ Sun Sep 07, 2008 3:09 pm ]
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Udgy as a villian? Oh no, he's so loveable and clueless.

Judge: "The U.K"?, was that her boyfriends initials?

(Upon seeing Jean Armstrong in T&T):

Excuse me.. but, are you a woman?

:D
Author:  Ping' [ Sun Sep 07, 2008 5:13 pm ]
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I think the idea was to have a judge as a villain, but not necessarily udgey.
Udgey would be better as a defendant (which, by the way, is precisely what happens in my fancase =)
Author:  NinjaMonkey [ Mon Sep 08, 2008 8:26 am ]
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Bad Player wrote:
Plus, Udgy can't be the defendant, 'cause then we'd find out his name! D:
Thus, spoiling the mystery surrounding him.

Phoenix_Apollo wrote:
Maybe the Brudgey can be the judge on the trial of Udgey? (or vise-versa)


Conflict of interest, anyone? (Of course, I could say the same about the end of 4-4)
Author:  Ping' [ Mon Sep 08, 2008 9:39 am ]
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I found a name for Udgey in my fancase, but it's a semi-spoiler. I think you're going to like it :p

I love the idea of Brudgey judging Udgey, by the way.
Author:  animepanda94 [ Tue Sep 09, 2008 12:06 am ]
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et91 wrote:
Discuss this idea.

I personally think it'd be great. It'd make for a very great final court showdown, as you'd have to prove his guilt without making it so obvious that he just ends the case then and there


D8 thats actually a really interesting idea
but i dont think it should be the regular judge ;__;! he couldnt be evil! maybe it could be the judges brother! :udgy: dunt dunt daaa
Author:  Gravy On Toast [ Thu Sep 11, 2008 4:16 pm ]
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I don't think it would work, I know what you mean by saying that you don't use Udgey, and use a different judge, but then wouldn't it be painfully obvious?

And also, the judge would just bang his hammer and say

'GUILTY!'

before you even did the cross examination... :oops:
Author:  Bad Player [ Thu Sep 11, 2008 10:54 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Judge as a villain in a case in this game
Gravy On Toast wrote:
I don't think it would work, I know what you mean by saying that you don't use Udgey, and use a different judge, but then wouldn't it be painfully obvious?

And also, the judge would just bang his hammer and say

'GUILTY!'

before you even did the cross examination... :oops:


1. The evil judge's first appearance would not be in this case. This way his character is build up, and he's important; he's not just thrown in for the twist.
2. Jurist System means he can't just do that.
3. Even if he could, then trial then goes to a higher court. When the higher court sees that the record for the court is "Court is now in session for the trial of [name]. Guilty." they're going to know something is up :nick:
Author:  et91 [ Fri Sep 12, 2008 11:43 pm ]
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Bad Player wrote:
Gravy On Toast wrote:
I don't think it would work, I know what you mean by saying that you don't use Udgey, and use a different judge, but then wouldn't it be painfully obvious?

And also, the judge would just bang his hammer and say

'GUILTY!'

before you even did the cross examination... :oops:


1. The evil judge's first appearance would not be in this case. This way his character is build up, and he's important; he's not just thrown in for the twist.
2. Jurist System means he can't just do that.
3. Even if he could, then trial then goes to a higher court. When the higher court sees that the record for the court is "Court is now in session for the trial of [name]. Guilty." they're going to know something is up :nick:


Not to mention, Udgey could be the defendent in the case, giving the excuse for why they need a new judge.
Author:  UltraSaint4121 [ Thu Sep 25, 2008 1:40 pm ]
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As mentioned above,
I reckon :udgy: should be the defendant of the second final case,
I don't know, mabye he 'killed' someone at a Judges conference in a drunken fit of rage.
Supposedly.
with the presiding 'new' judge being the guilty party.
Ta da.
:kyouya:
Author:  animepanda94 [ Sun Sep 28, 2008 4:28 am ]
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UltraSaint4121 wrote:
As mentioned above,
I reckon :udgy: should be the defendant of the second final case,
I don't know, mabye he 'killed' someone at a Judges conference in a drunken fit of rage.

....
Why can i see that happening so clearly?
Author:  hikari_rekka [ Mon Sep 29, 2008 2:39 am ]
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Bad Player wrote:
Gravy On Toast wrote:
I don't think it would work, I know what you mean by saying that you don't use Udgey, and use a different judge, but then wouldn't it be painfully obvious?

And also, the judge would just bang his hammer and say

'GUILTY!'

before you even did the cross examination... :oops:


1. The evil judge's first appearance would not be in this case. This way his character is build up, and he's important; he's not just thrown in for the twist.
2. Jurist System means he can't just do that.
3. Even if he could, then trial then goes to a higher court. When the higher court sees that the record for the court is "Court is now in session for the trial of [name]. Guilty." they're going to know something is up :nick:



Bad Player, when has there ever been a time in the series where the characters pay attention to logic? When there's something outright obvious or something that is common knowledge, they ignore that and just arrest some person who is obviously innocent.
Author:  Harry Miste [ Mon Sep 29, 2008 8:28 am ]
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Now THAT would be a twist. Given that the new Jurist System is in play, he'd be powerless to stop it. And it also tells us to look under the mask.

Udgey may be a pedo under his senility. We don't know for certain.
Author:  Pearl the Barrister [ Tue Oct 14, 2008 11:34 am ]
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Spoiler: 2-3,I believe
The end will go like this:
Prosecutor: Where is the murder weapon?
A. At the scene of the crime B. The Judge's Bench C. The Witness stand
Defense: Obviously, the Judge's bench!
Author:  Salutation Here [ Wed Oct 15, 2008 6:30 pm ]
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What plausible excuses can we find to remove the regular judge for a case? If a really good justification isn't given, then it would be obvious that he's the killer.
Author:  Dilbert719 [ Wed Oct 15, 2008 7:17 pm ]
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Salutation Here wrote:
What plausible excuses can we find to remove the regular judge for a case? If a really good justification isn't given, then it would be obvious that he's the killer.


Spoiler: In 3-5...
Edgeworth was powerful enough that when he subbed in for Phoenix, he was able to request that Brudgey take over. (For that day only, no less, which seems almost impossibly illogical.) A similar thing could be done here, where the Chief Justice takes a particular interest in a case and pulls rank to have it assigned to his docket.


Aside from the spoilery explanation, if the filler cases were planned out, we could sub in a new judge. Case 5-2, Brudgey is the victim, and Udgey has to recuse himself in favor of Evil Udgey. We find the suspect Not Guilty, but for a change, don't find the real killer. Case 5-4, Udgey is the suspect, Evil Udgey the judge and killer, and off we go.
Author:  Shadowkuja [ Wed Oct 22, 2008 9:28 pm ]
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actually, it hink if the judge were to ever be convicted of a crime, it would be kinda funny to see him suffer.....no offense anyone! :shoe: meow!
Author:  Yellow Magician [ Wed Oct 22, 2008 9:36 pm ]
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Udgey's cousin always seemed a bit dodgy to me.

EDIT: Udgey Cadaverini
Author:  Shadowkuja [ Fri Nov 07, 2008 1:07 am ]
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oh god the creepy judge who went "eh?" he is canadian. my friend had to tell me that. :sadshoe: i didn't know at first...
Author:  SNK [ Fri Nov 07, 2008 12:55 pm ]
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The judge? A villian? Possibly guilty of murdurer?

Why the heck not? :haha:
Author:  Shadowkuja [ Wed Nov 12, 2008 9:09 pm ]
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hey! everbody else is doing it! :godot:
Author:  ashogo [ Thu Nov 13, 2008 5:28 am ]
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I just hope they do change the damn judge soon. old man udgey is fine (though ridiculously indecisive) but having a new judge with a completely different character would make things so much more interesting in court. It won't happen though -_-
Author:  Riu [ Thu Nov 13, 2008 5:48 am ]
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Bad Player wrote:
Plus, Udgy can't be the defendant, 'cause then we'd find out his name! D:

Hmmmm,
:bro: Please state your name and occupation for the record.
:udgy: Umm, The Judge, and ummmm, I'm a judge
:edgeworth: This is riduculous! Give us your real name!!
:udgy: Harry Pickle
:edgeworth: What?
:udgy: Harry Pickle
:phoenix: Huh?
:udgy: HARRY PICKLE!!
:edgeworth: ......
:phoenix: .......
:bro: ...... Eh?
Author:  Raynor64 [ Wed Nov 26, 2008 3:15 am ]
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Cant even imagine good ol Udgey as a murderer. I dont think he could figure out how to use a weapon frankly...
Author:  Rob-McLarson [ Wed Nov 26, 2008 3:29 am ]
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Frankly, the only thing I can see da judge on trial for is driving unsafely. Anything else just seems out of character.
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