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What will be the excuse for a tutorial in AJ2?
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silverjojo08 wrote:
I could see this easily happening with a young Kristoph. Maybe adding some backstory?
A possibility...but who would be the defendant? It couldn't be Apollo, he'd be too young.
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I could see this easily happening with a young Kristoph. Maybe adding some backstory?
A possibility...but who would be the defendant? It couldn't be Apollo, he'd be too young.
Well...it could be Apollo, maybe. Wocky was 19, wasn't he? Maybe Apollo could be at about that age--just before or just after entering law school. It might be too similar to 3-1 or something, but maybe Kristoph's defense could be the reason Apollo went to Gavin Law Offices.
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Man...that looks dull...this actually makes me worried for KH3 (since that team worked on the battle system)
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The only way I can think which isn't amnesia is if they do the Phoenix becomes a lawyer again root so needs the 1st case to refresh his lawyer skills (which I really hope doesn't happen as we had enough Phoenix in AJ)
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"(Hm, cross-examination, do I need to go over the method again?)"
"(Now I just need to check to court record for any evidence that contradicts this witness's testimony!)"
But it'd be a lot less epic.
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Man...that looks dull...this actually makes me worried for KH3 (since that team worked on the battle system)
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Or maybe...Maya decides Pearly would be a better master of Kurain and decides to do the lawyer thing? I think it's plausible...though what that would have to do with Apollo is anyone's guess. OOH CHARLEY DIES AND APOLLO IS ACCUSED SO HE NEEDS A LAWYER!
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How about, Apollo has to defend a client while hungover/nauseus? That'd be fun, surely?
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1. Someone drugs apollo before the trial.
2. Court has to be re-explained due to the Jurist system being put into place.
3. A young lawyer has been told to tag along as I kind of work experience thing, so Apollo shows him how it's done.
4. Payne is absolutely thrashing Apollo in court so he has to go "back to basics" to win.
Ugh, I really hope they can come up with some stuff more original than this.
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3. A young lawyer has been told to tag along as I kind of work experience thing, so Apollo shows him how it's done.
That one would be great, though.
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While in general, it's best to have a professional defense attorney, and you have a right to one. You're not obligated to use one.
Now, with that in mind, Trucy pulls a Maya and is charged with Murder. Apollo slept in or had to find last minute evidence or something, so he's not around. As much as I want Phoenix to get OUT of Apollo's trilogy (;_; You've got your own Arc, Wright. You don't need to steal someone else's), he can play Defense Aid as he's still bared from Defending.
Trial has to start and Apollo still hasn't shown. Trucy opts to defend herself and pulls apart the detective's testimony. We go to a recess, and Apollo still hasn't shown up. Phoenix offers to go track down Apollo. Go back to court, Trucy is struggling against the next witness, Apollo breaks through the door Franny style with Conclusive Evidence/Witness whatever. Then Apollo gives Payne what he deserves/whatever and Trucy returns to defense Aid.
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nose wrote:
2. Court has to be re-explained due to the Jurist system being put into place.
I forgot about the Jurist system! I could totally see that happen!
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I could see this easily happening with a young Kristoph. Maybe adding some backstory?
A possibility...but who would be the defendant? It couldn't be Apollo, he'd be too young.
Well...it could be Apollo, maybe. Wocky was 19, wasn't he? Maybe Apollo could be at about that age--just before or just after entering law school. It might be too similar to 3-1 or something, but maybe Kristoph's defense could be the reason Apollo went to Gavin Law Offices.
The problem with this is that
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How about, Apollo has to defend a client while hungover/nauseus? That'd be fun, surely?
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How about this for a theory.
While in general, it's best to have a professional defense attorney, and you have a right to one. You're not obligated to use one.
Now, with that in mind, Trucy pulls a Maya and is charged with Murder. Apollo slept in or had to find last minute evidence or something, so he's not around. As much as I want Phoenix to get OUT of Apollo's trilogy (;_; You've got your own Arc, Wright. You don't need to steal someone else's), he can play Defense Aid as he's still bared from Defending.
Trial has to start and Apollo still hasn't shown. Trucy opts to defend herself and pulls apart the detective's testimony. We go to a recess, and Apollo still hasn't shown up. Phoenix offers to go track down Apollo. Go back to court, Trucy is struggling against the next witness, Apollo breaks through the door Franny style with Conclusive Evidence/Witness whatever. Then Apollo gives Payne what he deserves/whatever and Trucy returns to defense Aid.
While in general, it's best to have a professional defense attorney, and you have a right to one. You're not obligated to use one.
Now, with that in mind, Trucy pulls a Maya and is charged with Murder. Apollo slept in or had to find last minute evidence or something, so he's not around. As much as I want Phoenix to get OUT of Apollo's trilogy (;_; You've got your own Arc, Wright. You don't need to steal someone else's), he can play Defense Aid as he's still bared from Defending.
Trial has to start and Apollo still hasn't shown. Trucy opts to defend herself and pulls apart the detective's testimony. We go to a recess, and Apollo still hasn't shown up. Phoenix offers to go track down Apollo. Go back to court, Trucy is struggling against the next witness, Apollo breaks through the door Franny style with Conclusive Evidence/Witness whatever. Then Apollo gives Payne what he deserves/whatever and Trucy returns to defense Aid.
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Wooster wrote:
Trial has to start and Apollo still hasn't shown. Trucy opts to defend herself and pulls apart the detective's testimony. We go to a recess, and Apollo still hasn't shown up. Phoenix offers to go track down Apollo. Go back to court, Trucy is struggling against the next witness, Apollo breaks through the door Franny style with Conclusive Evidence/Witness whatever. Then Apollo gives Payne what he deserves/whatever and Trucy returns to defense Aid.
And then Nick gives Polly a resounding smack upside the head for leaving Trucy to fend for herself in a court of law. :P
Hangover idea is made of win.
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maybe Apollo sits in the cursed defendants lobby sofa and the Judge painting falls on his head...or Phoenix hits him with the fire extinguisher because he knows how the game goes
HAHAHAHA! Great ideas! I can just imagine it:
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: Yep, I think I've just about got this case figured out. Thank goodness! Normally when I go into court I initially have no clue what really happened!(Meanwhile)
: Trucy, I can't let this go ahead! Otherwise people new to the games will have no clue what to do!
: Games? What games Daddy? : NOTHING! Forgot I mentioned anything! Uh...anyway, something must be done! Apollo's not had to suffer enough yet! During my first year as a lawyer I was punched, hit with a toupee, nearly killed by Mafia guys and tazered! Plus, I went up against two undefeated prosecutors! ...And Payne! Not to mention they were both ruthless perfectionists willing to do anything to win!...And Payne! I must correct this! (Leaves)(Defendant lobby)
: Oh, hey Mr. Wright. What's that behind your back? : N-nothing. ...Oooh look, a tube of hair gel! : WHERE!? *Smash* : FIXED.
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2. Court has to be re-explained due to the Jurist system being put into place.
3. A young lawyer has been told to tag along as I kind of work experience thing, so Apollo shows him how it's done.
3. A young lawyer has been told to tag along as I kind of work experience thing, so Apollo shows him how it's done.
Great Ideas, but I could add some other good ideas...
5- Many time has pased since the last trial in AJ and Apollo has to remember the basics...
Some Examples:
Quote:
*Payne Submits Evidence*
Apollo: Payne has submited some evidence, I should read it in the Court Records
Apollo: Payne has submited some evidence, I should read it in the Court Records
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Apollo: Is time for the Cross-Examination, well, is time to find a contradiction and Present evidence that proves it, if i can't find it I just have to Press the Witness
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*Apollo's Bracelet reacts*
Apollo: My Bracelet is reacting, he/she must be hiding something
*Perceive System started*
Apollo: Ok, I have to find a strange behavior in this guy, when the poeple hide something the have some strange behaviors...
Apollo: My Bracelet is reacting, he/she must be hiding something
*Perceive System started*
Apollo: Ok, I have to find a strange behavior in this guy, when the poeple hide something the have some strange behaviors...
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maybe Apollo sits in the cursed defendants lobby sofa and the Judge painting falls on his head...or Phoenix hits him with the fire extinguisher because he knows how the game goes
HAHAHAHA! Great ideas! I can just imagine it:
(In defendant lobby)
: Yep, I think I've just about got this case figured out. Thank goodness! Normally when I go into court I initially have no clue what really happened!(Meanwhile)
: Trucy, I can't let this go ahead! Otherwise people new to the games will have no clue what to do! : Games? What games Daddy? : NOTHING! Forgot I mentioned anything! Uh...anyway, something must be done! Apollo's not had to suffer enough yet! During my first year as a lawyer I was punched, hit with a toupee, nearly killed by Mafia guys and tazered! Plus, I went up against two undefeated prosecutors! ...And Payne! Not to mention they were both ruthless perfectionists willing to do anything to win!...And Payne! I must correct this! (Leaves)(Defendant lobby)
: Oh, hey Mr. Wright. What's that behind your back? : N-nothing. ...Oooh look, a tube of hair gel! : WHERE!? *Smash* : FIXED.Many internets to you. I have long held the theory that Phoenix can secretly break the fourth wall...
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But still, I always thought he did it. After all, in AA, he actually TELLS the five cases like it's a flashback.
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: Now, Apollo, remember. You are not, under any circumstances, to sit on the defendant lobby sofa. It only leads to large head wounds and extremely contrived tutorials! Understand? : Yes, Mr, Wright. : Good boy. (Leaves) : Thank goodness for that! Now I can get some sleep before the trial! I need it, considering I was up until two in the morning doing my Chords of Steel training! (Lies down)(Judge's painting falls)
: OWWWWWWWWW! What...I can't remember anything! This is terrible! 
: So you're going to get me off the hook, right? Even if it means defying all logic and going into court as an amnesiac when you could just explain the predicament and have the trial postponed? Um...okay.(Court begins)
: Well, here comes...here comes...here comes... NOOOOOOO! I can sense that I should be uttering a catchphrase right now, but I can't remember what it is! : Hey, where's the Judge?
(entering) : Sorry I'm late, I - : (flashing back to the portrait incident) 
: YOU! YOU DID THIS TO ME! GET AWAYYYYYYYYY! : Mr. Justice, what are talking about! : You're going to leap on my head again, aren't you? AREN'T YOU!? : Bailiff! Have Mr. Justice escorted out of the building, please!
: Now Mr. Justice, if you just calm hurt no-one will have to get down! (leads Apollo away) : Why oh why didn't he listen to me? I bet it's because he hates me for being able to break the fourth wall, isn't that right player?
: Hey, if the kid's gone insane, do I win? : No Mr, Payne. You never win. I hate you all.
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Phoenix_Apollo wrote:
However, we know what REALLY happened during the MASON system.
But still, I always thought he did it. After all, in AA, he actually TELLS the five cases like it's a flashback.
But still, I always thought he did it. After all, in AA, he actually TELLS the five cases like it's a flashback.
At the end, yes, but at the beginning I didn't know who he was supposed to be talking to.
Also, technically, characters break the fourth wall in the tutorials all the time. Because they tell you to press the Court Record button or whatever.
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technically, characters break the fourth wall in the tutorials all the time. Because they tell you to press the Court Record button
Am I the only one who pretended the 4th wall was kept intact by imagining some sort of court record button on the desk?
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That's breaking fourth wall, right there.
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Wooster wrote:
A bunch of stuff
The Trucy idea is probably the best one I've heard so far (at least in the sense that we're not retreading the amnesia gimmick and not introducing yet another new lawyer, but Trucy will only be 16 during the next game. Would she legally be allowed to represent herself at that age?
The only other option I can really think of assumes that the jurist system leads to some gameplay flow changes, and that on its own would probably be enough to justify a tutorial of how cases run their course. To be honest, I wouldn't mind seeing a case without an aide, either; all of Apollo's successes so far have come largely thanks to others' help. It's about time he shakes out those butterflies and tackles something solo.
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