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Maybe Maya can have a case where she reappears? If Maya plays a good part in the case without Phoenix, then it could avoid stealing Polly's spotlight. Throughout AA, we had murder victims, and it would always be "Why can't Maya just channel the spirits and ask who killed them?" and it was always "Oh she's still in training." But now that she'd be Master and everything, what if they try it, and the spirit says that the defendant did it? Close to DL6, I know, but still... Perhaps there could be other parallels to DL6? We could also cross-examine Maya channeling the spirit...
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I like that idea, sounds good!
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Maybe Phoenix could go overseas ("I'm going to talk about the Jurist System in a conference overseas with... a friend of mine.") and then Maya shows up to surprise Phoenix with a visit, and when she finds out that Phoenix is gone, decides to stay with Polly, since he is Phoenix's protege. Then the murder happens, and so on. If Phoenix is literally out of the country, it would pretty much ensure that he doesn't take over the case.
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What if Willy Wonka held the children hostage and drowned them in chocolate or food poisoned them. The oompa loompas could be his accomplices >>. If it's copyright, valant gramarye can replace willy wonka and cody, pearl, machi, younger maya and younger ema could be the oompa loompas. (this is before the time skip)

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Gant disguises as willy wonka, kidnaps the children and does his dirty work. This may not be a murder case, but a really disturbing one...
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If Phoenix is literally out of the country, it would pretty much ensure that he doesn't take over the case.

> Hmmm... I wonder what that reminds me of :p

But yeah, I agree. If they were to reintroduce Maya, that'd be a good way to do it.
As long as she's not the defendant again. Or kidnapped again.
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If Phoenix is literally out of the country, it would pretty much ensure that he doesn't take over the case.

> Hmmm... I wonder what that reminds me of :p

But yeah, I agree. If they were to reintroduce Maya, that'd be a good way to do it.
As long as she's not the defendant again. Or kidnapped again.


I too am reminded of something...

*sigh* We all know that the creators will introduce a GS5 with Phoenix and Maya suddenly is incriminated as the murderer. The Feys will be brought back and Morgan will rise from jail in some elaborate plot to finally defeat the wretched Maya. I'm hoping Apollo is the main protagonist though...
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> Hmmm... I wonder what that reminds me of :p

But yeah, I agree. If they were to reintroduce Maya, that'd be a good way to do it.
As long as she's not the defendant again. Or kidnapped again.

It wasn't conscious, I swear... (If Trucy goes with Phoenix, she could be the assisstant...)

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I too am reminded of something...

*sigh* We all know that the creators will introduce a GS5 with Phoenix and Maya suddenly is incriminated as the murderer. The Feys will be brought back and Morgan will rise from jail in some elaborate plot to finally defeat the wretched Maya. I'm hoping Apollo is the main protagonist though...

My, such a pessimist we are...
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Bad Player wrote:
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I too am reminded of something...

*sigh* We all know that the creators will introduce a GS5 with Phoenix and Maya suddenly is incriminated as the murderer. The Feys will be brought back and Morgan will rise from jail in some elaborate plot to finally defeat the wretched Maya. I'm hoping Apollo is the main protagonist though...

My, such a pessimist we are...


Yep, I'm pessimistic. Everyone comments on it but judging from all the GS5 guesses, fanfictions and replies to the threads on Capcom's website, there's no doubt that this will happen.
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If Phoenix is literally out of the country, it would pretty much ensure that he doesn't take over the case.

> Hmmm... I wonder what that reminds me of :p

But yeah, I agree. If they were to reintroduce Maya, that'd be a good way to do it.
As long as she's not the defendant again. Or kidnapped again.


I too am reminded of something...

*sigh* We all know that the creators will introduce a GS5 with Phoenix and Maya suddenly is incriminated as the murderer. The Feys will be brought back and Morgan will rise from jail in some elaborate plot to finally defeat the wretched Maya. I'm hoping Apollo is the main protagonist though...


Erm no?

Don't be so pessimistic I'm fairly certain the Fey's won't be brought back
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I like the idea of Maya taking on a Misty/Mia type role though now she's a Master (By that I mean mentor, rather than dead). Trucy could still be the assistant.
What do the replies on Capcom's site say? Something more constructive than "Apollo Sux, bring back Nick" one hopes. Getting rid of Apollo after 1 (half?) game is stupid. It'd be like making AA1 with Nick and then JFA with a brand new character.
But like I said before, I say this as a fan of Nick & Apollo as characters. Apollo's story still has lots of gaps and potential left. FACT.
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I like the idea of Maya taking on a Misty/Mia type role though now she's a Master (By that I mean mentor, rather than dead). Trucy could still be the assistant.
What do the replies on Capcom's site say? Something more constructive than "Apollo Sux, bring back Nick" one hopes. Getting rid of Apollo after 1 (half?) game is stupid. It'd be like making AA1 with Nick and then JFA with a brand new character.
But like I said before, I say this as a fan of Nick & Apollo as characters. Apollo's story still has lots of gaps and potential left. FACT.


More reason to keep Maya out of it, she'd never be able to take a Mia role, she's not mature enough for that.
Besides Maya being there would require more interaction with Nick and we'd have the problem where we'd have AJ1 starring Phoenix Wright again.
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True, fair point. Not even a cameo? I guess not.
I wonder how Trucy would get on wi8th say, Pearls?
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True, fair point. Not even a cameo? I guess not.
I wonder how Trucy would get on wi8th say, Pearls?


Very well is the answer, Pearls would probably want a place in the magic show where she would summon a spirit to possess her as one of the tricks, probably Mia as she's used to it and Mia could get in on the act (as opposed to some random ghost who could do whatever). However much like the disease model of addiction I'm suggesting total abstinence from any form of Fey Activity.
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Pierre wrote:
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I like the idea of Maya taking on a Misty/Mia type role though now she's a Master (By that I mean mentor, rather than dead). Trucy could still be the assistant.
What do the replies on Capcom's site say? Something more constructive than "Apollo Sux, bring back Nick" one hopes. Getting rid of Apollo after 1 (half?) game is stupid. It'd be like making AA1 with Nick and then JFA with a brand new character.
But like I said before, I say this as a fan of Nick & Apollo as characters. Apollo's story still has lots of gaps and potential left. FACT.


More reason to keep Maya out of it, she'd never be able to take a Mia role, she's not mature enough for that.
Besides Maya being there would require more interaction with Nick and we'd have the problem where we'd have AJ1 starring Phoenix Wright again.

That was GS1-3!Maya. She could easily grow a mature side after 8 years, especially after being Master for a while.
If Phoenix is completely out of the picture when Maya is around, then no, we don't have that. As long as Maya is important to the case itself, and not just there for the sake of being there, then the game won't be stolen from Polly. (For instance, she takes Trucy's place as your assisstant, and eventually uses spirit channeling in the case.)

(Done right, I wouldn't have a problem or Maya or Pearl coming back. But restarting the whole Morgan and Fey feud thing, no...)
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Bad Player also makes a good point.
For example, Maya is on a visiit and Trucy is away for some reason so Maya is the assistant. I agree perhaps Maya would be a bit more mature after 7/8 years but I dont want the whole Morgan thing to start up again...
I wouldnt mind Maya being there if she is important, and not just fanservice.
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Bad Player also makes a good point.
For example, Maya is on a visiit and Trucy is away for some reason so Maya is the assistant. I agree perhaps Maya would be a bit more mature after 7/8 years but I dont want the whole Morgan thing to start up again...
I wouldnt mind Maya being there if she is important, and not just fanservice.


Why would Trucy be away?
She's literally vital for Nick's survival in his house since she supports the 'family' possibly more than he does with her shows.
Also based on how Maya's collection and range of 'Steel samurai' related merchandise has grown massively and how Nick in GS4 timeline refers to her as a 'kid' I still don't think she's grown up that much.

Also to include Maya as an assistant just while Trucy isn't there just to tie her into the story IS purely a fanservice.
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Pierre wrote:
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Bad Player also makes a good point.
For example, Maya is on a visiit and Trucy is away for some reason so Maya is the assistant. I agree perhaps Maya would be a bit more mature after 7/8 years but I dont want the whole Morgan thing to start up again...
I wouldnt mind Maya being there if she is important, and not just fanservice.


Why would Trucy be away?
She's literally vital for Nick's survival in his house since she supports the 'family' possibly more than he does with her shows.
Also based on how Maya's collection and range of 'Steel samurai' related merchandise has grown massively and how Nick in GS4 timeline refers to her as a 'kid' I still don't think she's grown up that much.

Also to include Maya as an assistant just while Trucy isn't there just to tie her into the story IS purely a fanservice.

Maybe Trucy is at a magic convention, or special show somewhere else, or on vacation with Nick. And I specifically said a mature side; there is no reason why, after all these years, Maya can't have a mature side and a childish side. Anyway,
1) Maya being the assisstant would be better than her just being there without doing anything else
2) If something happened, like she channeled the victim and said that the defendant was the criminal, then she would have an important role in the case and it wouldn't be fanservice anymore.
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Bad Player wrote:
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Bad Player also makes a good point.
For example, Maya is on a visiit and Trucy is away for some reason so Maya is the assistant. I agree perhaps Maya would be a bit more mature after 7/8 years but I dont want the whole Morgan thing to start up again...
I wouldnt mind Maya being there if she is important, and not just fanservice.


Why would Trucy be away?
She's literally vital for Nick's survival in his house since she supports the 'family' possibly more than he does with her shows.
Also based on how Maya's collection and range of 'Steel samurai' related merchandise has grown massively and how Nick in GS4 timeline refers to her as a 'kid' I still don't think she's grown up that much.

Also to include Maya as an assistant just while Trucy isn't there just to tie her into the story IS purely a fanservice.

Maybe Trucy is at a magic convention, or special show somewhere else, or on vacation with Nick. And I specifically said a mature side; there is no reason why, after all these years, Maya can't have a mature side and a childish side. Anyway,
1) Maya being the assisstant would be better than her just being there without doing anything else
2) If something happened, like she channeled the victim and said that the defendant was the criminal, then she would have an important role in the case and it wouldn't be fanservice anymore.


1: Maya being the assistant is worse than her not being there at all.
2: If she channelled the victim who said the defendant was guilty that's got definite allusions to a certain case I'm certain they'd mention happened before, Apollo would do research, find out it was none other than Misty Fey Maya's mother from before who did it and got scrutinised and now history faces repeating itself as he can either shame Maya and her clan by proving the defendant not guilty or risk letting a possibly innocent man go to jail or worse to Death Row. Plus this also brings back the Fey clan in general by referring to their history and Misty Fey.

Both seem bad to me I don't see why Maya or any Fey's need to be mentioned at all in AJ2
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Eh, I think we'll have to agree to disagree.

I wouldn't mind bringing back Maya, and Maya alone, without any ties to Pearl or any of Morgan's plots or anything, for one case if it was done right and done well. And why not do a case that parallels 1-4 and DL-6? (Again, done right so that it doesn't overshadow Polly.)

That's all I'm saying =\
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Eh, I think we'll have to agree to disagree.

I wouldn't mind bringing back Maya, and Maya alone, without any ties to Pearl or any of Morgan's plots or anything, for one case if it was done right and done well. And why not do a case that parallels 1-4 and DL-6? (Again, done right so that it doesn't overshadow Polly.)

That's all I'm saying =\


Even then some critics might mock the fact Apollo's cases are just revamps of past cases and that kinda implies a certain lack of originality in the new AJ era which wouldn't bode well for Apollo.
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Here's some I thought of.

-Apollo has to defend someone accused of taking 20 people hostage and killing two hostages. But the defendant keeps claiming that he was a hostage even when all the evidence is stacked against him. Of course, Apollo manages to unmask the real killer, who was pretending to be the hostage negotiator.

-Apollo/Phoenix defends someone accused of terrorism. I'm not sure how it would go but it'd be interesting...

-Apollo defends a client who wants to be able to visit her children. But her ex-husband refuses to let the mother visit them since he has custody of the three kids. Apollo succeeds in getting the judge to force the father to grant custody to the mother every once a week. Little did they know it was all just so the son could force the mom to buy DS games for him.
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-Apollo defends a client who wants to be able to visit her children. But her ex-husband refuses to let the mother visit them since he has custody of the three kids. Apollo succeeds in getting the judge to force the father to grant custody to the mother every once a week. Little did they know it was all just so the son could force the mom to buy DS games for him.


This seems odd....isn't it normally the mother who gets custody? I thought the law favoured them on this.
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This seems odd....isn't it normally the mother who gets custody? I thought the law favoured them on this.

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Pierre wrote:
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-Apollo defends a client who wants to be able to visit her children. But her ex-husband refuses to let the mother visit them since he has custody of the three kids. Apollo succeeds in getting the judge to force the father to grant custody to the mother every once a week. Little did they know it was all just so the son could force the mom to buy DS games for him.


This seems odd....isn't it normally the mother who gets custody? I thought the law favoured them on this.

The dad had a better lawyer.
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well there's one idea i have.

what if pearls really wants to be the next kurain master in the future and kills maya.
then we'll have pearls as the killer. :karma:
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I can't see Pearls as the killer, even a teen Pearls. She's far too cute/nice!
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I can't see Pearls as the killer, even a teen Pearls. She's far too cute/nice!


that's what makes it so awesome :godot:

just like dhalia :chinami:
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that's what makes it so awesome :godot:

just like dhalia :chinami:


Yes, but there's something not quite right about that. Dahlia was sort of "born" into being evil. Her family was pretty tragic, which caused her to feel the need to steal a very rare diamond from her family to start her own life. She also ended up murdering at least two people (Doug and most likely Valerie, too), but more for her own personal gain/revenge.

Pearl was "born" into evil, but in a very, very naive way. I mean, the only times she's ever done anything bad is when she's been following her mother's orders. Unless her mother came back (which Maya would not allow), Pearl would never have enough influence to do anything that terrible, especially to her idol Maya. She would have to have an extremely strong motive, moreso than becoming the Master, as she's shown no real interest in that.
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You have to defend a masked wrestler.

I have no idea WHY I want this, it just seems like something that would fit in the kooky aesthetic of Ace Attorney.
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The only problem is that this would force Oldbag to be a witness.
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A mexican masked wrestler. :<

And lol'd at Oldbag's appearance.
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I believe you are looking for this thread: courthouse-steps/character-type-you-would-like-see-t7591.html

Actually, that's for characters. This thread is for individual aspects of a case.

I'd like a final case where the final, climactic piece of evidence is
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I believe you are looking for this thread: courthouse-steps/character-type-you-would-like-see-t7591.html

Actually, that's for characters. This thread is for individual aspects of a case.

I'd like a final case where the final, climactic piece of evidence is
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That would be cool, it would be too unexpected
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You have to defend a masked wrestler.

I have no idea WHY I want this, it just seems like something that would fit in the kooky aesthetic of Ace Attorney.

I dunno why, but I can see this happening And the masked wrestler turns out to be Gumshoe
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Yay, masked wrestlers is epic WIN (and Oldbag would fangirl the victim, another masked wrestler. But there's not Edgey-poo D: )

But what about a crime where the last piece of evidence is
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Phoenix Wright? Maybe the killer tried to kill him and he went to the hospital in critical conditions... so, he would be the last and decisive witness!
Or a crime in a hospital? Or in Prosecution's house? The Courthouse crimes already exist...

But I think Capcom will create two cases including mafia affairs in AJ2 and AJ3 (you know, Kitaki's boos looks like Don Corleone, so it would be "The Godfather" part I, II and III in GyakuSai style... not awesome, but funny XD)

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I would like a case where you have to cross-examine the judge.
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Gyakuten$aiban wrote:
The case could be called 'Turnabout Headlock'.


Hahaha. That would be awesome. Masked wrestler for GS5! :B

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But I think Capcom will create two cases including mafia affairs in AJ2 and AJ3 (you know, Kitaki's boos looks like Don Corleone, so it would be "The Godfather" part I, II and III in GyakuSai style... not awesome, but funny XD)[/size]


If more Kitakis means more Wocky, then YES.

And a case involving Apollo's background. :<
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