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I think, in the last case of Odoroki's arc, the murderer should make it seem to Odoroki that Odoroki murdered somebody, possibly another defense attorney, and consequently, Odoroki should frame the defendant. This could be revealed through a sequence in which you meet Phoenix, who asks you how the investigation's going. This train of conversation eventually leads to the question, "Any idea who did it?" Odoroki says no. The background goes negative, fade to black. Phoenix looks serious and says "I know you're lying." That's right, it's the other side of a Psyche Lock! I imagine in this scenario, the key evidence would have something to do with Attorney's Badges, or, rather, the ID number on the back.
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Perhaps the loss of Daian will result in Garyuu's band splitting up. Disheartened by the loss of his band and his brother, Garyuu will perhaps try a solo career...maybe with a different genre of music and a different appearence to match. As a show of gratitude to Nick, he would become a client of the Naruhodo Talent Agency, which would keep Odoroki well-connected to him. Then, of course, there would be a murder (or maybe a theft) that would be the center of one of the later cases, be it three, four or five. Perhaps a previously unknown member of Kyouya's old band would kill a bystander while trying to destroy the G-guy himself or something...

Of course, my opinion isn't that much better than many of yours. :garyuu:


That situation is so believable it's not even funny.
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Plastecine wrote:
I think, in the last case of Odoroki's arc, the murderer should make it seem to Odoroki that Odoroki murdered somebody, possibly another defense attorney, and consequently, Odoroki should frame the defendant. This could be revealed through a sequence in which you meet Phoenix, who asks you how the investigation's going. This train of conversation eventually leads to the question, "Any idea who did it?" Odoroki says no. The background goes negative, fade to black. Phoenix looks serious and says "I know you're lying." That's right, it's the other side of a Psyche Lock! I imagine in this scenario, the key evidence would have something to do with Attorney's Badges, or, rather, the ID number on the back.


Either that, or Minuki using Minuku on Odoroki to find out.

I was thinking of a case where Minuki is framed for the murder of someone or other, then Odo finds out and fabricates evidence outside of the crime scene so when the police investigates her, they think HE was the real culprit. Then we'd see some über-awesome acting by Odoroki on the stand, faking tattles and exploding in wrath at people "finding out" he is the "real" culprit. So he is sent to jail and Minuki's safe. Until Phoenix/Ema/someone else discovers decisive evidence not yet used that disproves either Odo or Minuki being involved, the case goes international (and hopefully Edgeworth/Franziska returns), and Odo gets out of jail.

And also, I'd want some cases to have alternative ways to get to the answer. For example, in this case, let's suppose Phoenix is the defense attorney defending Odoroki. Let's say the decisive evidence Odoroki doesn't want anyone to see yet is found BEFORE Odoroki is tried, Phoenix shows it, and Odo breaks down, thinking Minuki is in life danger, he goes haywire, Phoenix goes "WHAT THE FUCK" and all of a sudden, Minuki is in witness protection program.
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yuumi didnt leave :minuki: ( as far as I understand it )
then I don't think that's why she left her son


Spoilers for what...?
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GS4 if that's what you mean

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And also, I'd want some cases to have alternative ways to get to the answer. For example, in this case, let's suppose Phoenix is the defense attorney defending Odoroki. Let's say the decisive evidence Odoroki doesn't want anyone to see yet is found BEFORE Odoroki is tried, Phoenix shows it, and Odo breaks down, thinking Minuki is in life danger, he goes haywire, Phoenix goes "WHAT THE FUCK" and all of a sudden, Minuki is in witness protection program.

I guess a lot of people forgot that :phoenix: once defended himself :nick:
I mean can't :odoroki: do the same ???
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I'm sure he can if the prosecutor doesn't want a guilty verdict in first place and Phoenix will do all the work for him as usual :nick:
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I'm sure he can if the prosecutor doesn't want a guilty verdict in first place and Phoenix will do all the work for him as usual :nick:

On a scale of 1-10, how much do you hate/despise GS4? <.< ?
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On a scale of 1-10, how much do you hate/despise GS4? <.< ?

Why'd you ask? Not everyone tries to make a point out of how much he or she dislikes some game with every post.

It is my personal opinion that Odoroki contributes little to nothing to all four cases' outcome. It is my personal opinion, and a rather widely accepted view, that Kyouya doesn't try to win any of his cases. I can back up my opinion, and I accept other people's views on things - so what's the big problem?
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I've only read the first pgae, so this might seem off-topic

I would like the Fey's to return, like have Mia counselling you for one trial. but not for them to be any more then charcters for one/two cases.

So, one where Odokori defends one, or maybe they help him with a trial, and then they come again for some big plot detail.
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I just had an awesome Idea, kind of a reverse opposite from case 2-4

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Minuki is kidnapped, and Odo is forced to take the case, not to win it, but to make sure it is lost! The one problem with this is...the defendant is either Odo's mom or dad (if he is alive)! OMFG drama what can Odo do to stop this?!?! Evil mastermind shows up somewhere lol.



I like the idea >_>
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Phonics Wright wrote:
I just had an awesome Idea, kind of a reverse opposite from case 2-4

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Minuki is kidnapped, and Odo is forced to take the case, not to win it, but to make sure it is lost! The one problem with this is...the defendant is either Odo's mom or dad (if he is alive)! OMFG drama what can Odo do to stop this?!?! Evil mastermind shows up somewhere lol.



I like the idea >_>

Hmmm...sounds like JFA Case 4, but with a little bit added...and with less gravy.
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It's a GS tradition to recycle ideas, though. But yeah, agreed, it's kinda been done.
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D-Berry wrote:
It's a GS tradition to recycle ideas, though. But yeah, agreed, it's kinda been done.

*cough*Assistant framed for murder*cough*
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*cough*Assistant framed for murder*cough*

Haven't done THAT one enough, have they. [/sarcasm]
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OH NEVER! SUCH AN ORIGINAL IDEA!
Then again, I would be pretty shocked if they didn't have Minuki as defendant in GS5. At least once. Maybe twice. :nick:
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Or how about...
AS THE DEFENDENT OF CASE 2 AND THE GUILTY PARTY OF THE LAST CASE?!?
Unless there's only two cases, in which instance my idea kinda crumbles.
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That would be good, except you'd have to sit through TWO Cases of Minuki crying. I still like my idea of her killing Phoenix, even if Godot will be starring in GS5 in a dress before it happens.
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Your idea's awesome!
...But you're right, it's unlikely.
And now I'm lmao'ing at the mental image of Godot in a dress. XD
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D-Berry wrote:
Your idea's awesome!
...But you're right, it's unlikely.
And now I'm lmao'ing at the mental image of Godot in a dress. XD

OH GOD! Now you've got me started. Flowery dress! With shoulder pads! Like my Form Tutor wore last Summer!
AH HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!
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OR A TUTU!!
LET'S SEE GODOT IN A PINK BALLERINA TUTU, CAPCOM!! XD
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OH YES! Now that would be so great. Godot In A Dress: Ace Attorney. :gant:
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Hey, it beats Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney.
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Beats it by miles.... :gymshoe:
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At this point the game should start using roman numerals. And uh... that's all I got.
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Ryu-kun wrote:
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On a scale of 1-10, how much do you hate/despise GS4? <.< ?

Why'd you ask? Not everyone tries to make a point out of how much he or she dislikes some game with every post.

It is my personal opinion that Odoroki contributes little to nothing to all four cases' outcome. It is my personal opinion, and a rather widely accepted view, that Kyouya doesn't try to win any of his cases. I can back up my opinion, and I accept other people's views on things - so what's the big problem?

I asked because I was just interested, I agree with your opinion actually :sawit:
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Here's an idea I came up with.

Case 1- your normal warm-up case

case2- new prosecutror added, not only that, but he's the worst one yet. No matter what he always has a comeback and he nevers breaks down. It gets to the point where Phoenix has to take over the case and even he loses. Odo thinks it was just hopeless so he doesn't go too emo.

case3- Kyouya is back. You go aghainst him in a trial you already know that your client is innocent for. Odo get's too cocky thinking he could easily win and Phoenix is forced to jump in and save the day.

case4- Phoenix is the victim. Minuki is the defendant. The prosecutor from case2 is back. Odo is going emo and is afraid without Phoenix's help so he doesn't take the case, but he does investigate the crime scene to give clues to whoever does take the case. Minuki ends up persuading him so he takes the case. Then it becomes the ULTIMATE courtroom battle. AJ wants to find out who killed Phoenix and protect Minuki, and defeat super prosecutor guy. He goes super defense attorney. They go back and forth until it reaches near the end. AJ must then prove super prosecutor murdered Phoenix.

Super prosecutor's motive could be this.
motive-he killed Phoenix because he almost proved super prosecutor murdered the victim of case2 who happened to be the only defense attorney to beat him. If Phoenix had been left to investigate the case any further it would have shown that super prosecutor killed him and so super prosecutor killed our beloved Phoenix
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I wonder what it'd be like for Phoenix to be a prosecutor... He did, if jokingly, ask Edgeworth if they'd like to switch way back when.

I'd love to see Franziska as the judge though, that would be massive LOL.
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Snagged from another thread and put into Spoiler Tags, just in case:

Spoiler: "My thoughts on GS5"
Although I too am sad at the lack of Maya, Edgeworth and the other regulars, I understand the fact that this needed to be Odoroki's game. Phoenix's role was already large enough that it did begin to push Odoroki out of the way, but left enough room for him to be established as a character. Now that GS4 is done, his establishment is done as well, allowing recurring character's from Phoenix's storyline be able to advance, not hinder, his development.

I believe that GS5 will probably go a little something like this:

Case 1 - An easy case that Phoenix and Odoroki and working on together to get Phoenix back into the swing of things before his Bar Exam.

Cases 2 - 3 or 4, depending on if there are 4 or 5 cases - Odoroki taking regular cases, his relation to Minuki probably revealed during this time. Phoenix not seen much as he will be Studying for his Bar exam/Taking his Bar Exam/working on his new hobby of helping Kyouya, who's taking a break from law, to reform the band after GS4 3&4, paving the way for a new prosecutor.

Case 4 or 5, depending on above reason - Someone recurring, probably Minuki, is arrested for the "typical GS crime" a.k.a. murder. Phoenix, because he's passed his exam by now, insists that he takes this case and tells Odoroki that he needs to not worry, due to the possible previous relation exposing, that Phoenix feels responsible for the both of them, and because he knows that Odoroki could make a mistake in his Passionate Heart Burning Redness over his relation to Minuki. Determined to help anyway, Odoroki investigates and finds out a fair deal about the murder. The next morning, he goes to the Defense Lobby, using the excuse that he's related to(friends with, if relation has not been revealed to them) with the accused, in order to prove to Phoenix that he can and wants to do this. After a few minutes of convincing Phoenix agrees to let him run the case, seeing that if he doesn't he'll never hear the end of it, no matter what happens, but before he goes, asks Odoroki if he's sure, telling him that the Prosecutor of the case is an "Old Rival" of his that gave him a run for his money on more than one occasion. With Resolve, Odoroki says that he understands and Phoenix goes to tell the judge about this. Court begins and it's one of the most long awaited for Cameo's since the main character swap. This allows the fact that Edgey is a PW Trilogy character to show up and be a major challenge for Forehead-kun at the end of his second game.
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AZ - So, beat Payne, lose, lose, and then Phoenix dies? I hope you're joking :(.

I'll be hoping that Phoenix will still be around in GS5, but not as important to be a victim/defendant/prosecutor/aide etc.
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Spoiler: GS4 Kiri
GS5 needs to have a Kirihito jailbreak as he goes super saiyan and wipes out half the city......... Nevermind...
Whatever they decide to do with GS5, they should try to aim the spotlight more at :odoroki: and not as much at Phoenix. Granted he's a big part of the series with connections to practically everyone, but Odo is still pretty undeveloped.
Too lazy... hur hur.
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Well... the point of a new arc is generally to step away from previous arc characters or extending their appearances over other arcs. I don't see many suggestions like this person or that from PW Arc happening even though they do sound cool. Maybe some of them will come back with some sort of minor relevancy (i.e. Feys).

I agree what others have been saying about Edgeworth. He's been overdone. As for Payne, the deadly-hairstylin, rookie-killa has got to be in every game! It'd be pretty fucking funny to see a Godot Jr. or Franzy Jr..... or if taken far an Edgey Jr.
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Though I have no idea who they'd put on trial for case 5-1, I've been wondering about how they're going to present the tutorial aspects this time around. After all, I doubt they'll take the amnesia route again, and I don't think there's any reason to flash back to a different newbie defense attorney.

Thus, I keep getting glimpses of a 5-1 in which Odoroki, in spite of his exprience, has to be examined by some sort of "legal minder" in order to make sure that he's maintained the ability to properly argue in court. This person could be either Phoenix (if he doesn't regain his badge, he can just be a represenative of the court system), Kyouya, or someone that will become more important later in GS5. Then, instead of having our hero be uncertain and in personal need an explanation for every last game feature, we have an annoying minder that tells the player what he/she needs to know, but gets sarcastic backtalk from Mr. Justice every time he explains something new. Why did I think of this idea? Aside from being reusable, I think it would just be funny to argue out a case AND deal with someone annoying Odoroki to the end of his (admittedly short) rope.

Whoa, that was a rant. I hope it's clear enough to be understood...
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Though I have no idea who they'd put on trial for case 5-1, I've been wondering about how they're going to present the tutorial aspects this time around. After all, I doubt they'll take the amnesia route again, and I don't think there's any reason to flash back to a different newbie defense attorney.

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Protégé
annoying little kid who continually quotes from a defense attorneys manual, whilst following Apollo around.
much to Mr Justices annoyance
i.e-

Protégé: "Your going to cross examine the witness now Mr Justice, aren't you."
:odoroki: (Thinking) "Shut up! I know what i'm doing, GET LOST!"

Protégé "Are you going to check the court record Mr Justice?"
:odoroki: (Thinking) "AAAAAARRRRGGGGHHHHHHH!" "Leave me alone!"

then this could lead to another storyline,
i.e
-the protégé is Apollos Half bro (dads side)
-the protégé is a murderer/witness in later case
-the protégé is a defendant
-the protégé becomes a prosecutor for GS6 (much like Edgey)
-the protégé is a victim (hopefully)

you get where i am going....
although, i do prefer DSLs idea of a legal minder, who is examining "Mr Justice" through 5-1
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That's a good idea too; probably better than mine. Nothing like an excuse to add yet another enthusiastic young character to the series. Sigh... :odoroki:
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I want the protégé to piss Mr Justice off,
especially about his name
and then we get to see him angry, yay.
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I think GS5 should go back to the first era. We'll just pretend that GS4 was like... Yu-Gi-Oh GX! Just a spin off! I DON'T WANNA BE NOT PHOENIX! But Mia's fine... Let me try that again: I DON'T WANNA BE APOLLO JUSTICE!!!
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Oh shut up. You're getting Apollo whether you like it or not.
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GodotFan23 wrote:
I think GS5 should go back to the first era. We'll just pretend that GS4 was like... Yu-Gi-Oh GX! Just a spin off! I DON'T WANNA BE NOT PHOENIX! But Mia's fine... Let me try that again: I DON'T WANNA BE APOLLO JUSTICE!!!

Why would they do that?

We practically know what happens. HE loses his badge.

If they wanted top do that, they would of kept GS4 as PW:AA4. But they made it AJ:AA1 instead.

So that implies that we won't go back to Phoenix.
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They didn't add a 1 at the end, but I get your point. They didn't add numbers at the end of the games for that reason. Just subtities.
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