A few weeks ago I read an interesting fanfic where Phoenix finds hidden diary entrys of Iris and finds out that even though she was infactuated with him, she was also in love with Dahlia. (I remember a debate going on at the Phoenix/Maya club kind of made me wonder if Iris ever so slightly loved Dahlia more than Phoenix, in a romantic sense.)

In the end she kills herself to make her sister truely happy again.

And I'm probably the only one who thinks that could've fitted in with the canon (whether romantic or not) because that could probably be the reason Phoenix didn't mention Iris during GK4.

A few weeks ago I read an interesting fanfic where Phoenix finds hidden diary entrys of Iris and finds out that even though she was infactuated with him, she was also in love with Dahlia. (I remember a debate going on at the Phoenix/Maya club kind of made me wonder if Iris ever so slightly loved Dahlia more than Phoenix, in a romantic sense.)

In the end she kills herself to make her sister truely happy again.

And I'm probably the only one who thinks that could've fitted in with the canon (whether romantic or not) because that could probably be the reason Phoenix didn't mention Iris during GK4.

I can't believe that nobody pointed out yet that this would be pretty morbid, even for Ace Attorney's standards.

And when I first saw Elise pierced with the twelve blade sword that the statue of Ami Few was holding...I thought the Ami Fey statue came alive and killed her..

....seven-bladed.
You need to brush up on your AA details!

I mean, I can sort of understand having the previous AA games being a bit lighter, I mean, we don't want to shove a rookie lawyer right into a serial murder case or anything like that.

I'm all for more Ace Attorney seriousness. After all, I came into Ace Attorney as a replacement for Law and Order during the 2008 Writer's Strike, but I just want it to still stay in the teen range, which means nothing too gruesome or cruel. That's my main criticism of the recent Phoenix Wright manga, which otherwise was pretty good. The writers and translators got the characters and dialogue pretty spot on, but the violence was really turned up to 11. (The Edgeworth manga was different in that it had the same amount of violence but had a bad translation and uninteresting stories.)

Like I said, we don't want something incredibly disgusting - I don't watch Law & Order. I think I only saw the beginning of one episode and that had with a woman bringing her kid and her friend's kid back to the friend and having them stay there, although the friend was currently held at knife point by a robber or so. And they basically killed the kids and friend as well as her husband by having them asphyxiate by putting plastic bags over their heads.

Anyway, we don't need that sort of thing.
And I'll take my Dahlia-attempting-to-harm-her-host-body suggestion again as an example. I didn't want her to actually do anything, no matter how much I hate or dislike Maya. I merely think that if she had attempted to do something, it would've made a huge impact - like in other video games, where a scene can make you cry for the character or feel what they feel. Just something that would've made Dahlia seem like a threat - instead of this... kid that just stood there and took the humiliation.

I like games that are light hearted, but not if they are too lighthearted. I also don't think games should be too depressing (I'm looking at you FFX!) but a good mixture - and by that I mean fitting jokes or something to turn the mood around. Much as I love Gumshoe, the repeated joke in 1-5 where he bursts into the room and is all "Oh I interrupted... I will go now." and they call him back... funny the first time, then it got eye-rollingly dumb.

C-A

I agree with you. I would usually skip the "crime" portion of Law & Order and would wait about 5 minutes after the show started before watching because of the violent stuff they'd often have. I actually mostly watched reruns from the early seasons in the 90's, because they didn't show all that stuff. They would just have a couple of non-important characters discover the body. It was after that awful and horrific show Law & Order: Special Victims Unit got popular that the original Law & Order started showing the killings.

Like I said, I'd be ok with Ace Attorney getting more serious. But that doesn't mean I don't want any humor in it or anything. My favorite Ace Attorney games will often have a case that is a little darker than normal followed by a case that is more light-hearted than normal. I don't want a depressing game or anything, which is why I say make T the maximum rating for the games. I have no objection to the kind of situation you are describing with Dahlia.

Now that I think about it, case 2-4 was the case that made me laugh the least because Maya is my favorite female character...and I spent most of the time on the edge of my seat, screaming, and nearly crying...but at least Edgeworth was back.

You know, I think maybe we might all be taking this stuff a bit to serious... just a thought. (that includes myself, of course ;) )

I know.

What I'm trying to figure out was why was I, and so many other people so upset because Pheonix lost his badge, it was just a career, and not even the best career too. But when I was playing as Phoenix in AJ I absolutely DREADED seeing the cutscenes to Phoenix's final case, I felt like I was gonna tear up, I wanted it to stop.

Now that I think about it, case 2-4 was the case that made me laugh the least because Maya is my favorite female character...and I spent most of the time on the edge of my seat, screaming, and nearly crying...but at least Edgeworth was back.

That was a pretty no-humor Case and I suppose it was intentional. And I agree that putting too much humor into that case would've been kinda awkward - after all, it is THE case where Phoenix finally learns something about being a lawyer and all that. I remember not laughing a lot in that case, too - my main memory is the desire to grab Phoenix by the shoulders and shake him like crazy, then smashing his head against the defense desk while pulling the bully-line, "Stop shooting yourself in the foot!" and "Grow some balls!"

C-A

What I didn't want is already in the game D: I'd rather that there be no gimmicks to the court phase of the game. No perceiving, no heart scope, just good ol presenting.

Like in AA where we presented evidence that technically made no sense to use or was actually not allowed to be used? (Regarding AA being a take on the Japanese law system prior to 2009, I still doubt they would've let illegally aquired evidence get presented in court)

C-A

What I didn't want is already in the game D: I'd rather that there be no gimmicks to the court phase of the game. No perceiving, no heart scope, just good ol presenting.

I hope the aide will be a little more useful than Maya in the PW trilogy. Warning, I love Maya, but excluding her huge spirit and humor potential, she's not a model of logic and reflection.
It was a real progress with Trucy in AJ : she's a little bit smart and have some point : I can't call her a real "drag". However, in investigation stage, she's not very useful.

I hope, for the girl we saw in the trailer, she will be a smart one with a real weight and not just a cute mascot. I believe she's an attorney too so let's be important pal !

No more Spark . And no more Valant . That guy was a jerk!

Edgey does make everything better. Including really depressing/emotional cases.
I remember when Franziska was like, "If it wasn't for you.."
And then ??? answered, "I would have won. Is that what you wanted to say?"
Cue Revival: Miles Edgeworth music and I'm jumping around the room in glee along with my younger brother who loves the games as well.

....Anyway, it was sad when Maya was kidnapped and when came up on the transceiver it was like, "No...there?! She's there?!"

I went on again. Sorry.

Dr. Hotti/Hickfield with a new identity.
Enough said.

Honestly I found the moment when he approached Trucy with his oddball manners and Phoenix stepped in to shoo him away pretty funny.

Then again, we could always bring back Larry and have him hit on Kokone. Apollo would probably be "WTF This guy is friends with Mr. Wright?"

...but in a more humorous way.

Honestly I found the moment when he approached Trucy with his oddball manners and Phoenix stepped in to shoo him away pretty funny.

Then again, we could always bring back Larry and have him hit on Kokone. Apollo would probably be "WTF This guy is friends with Mr. Wright?"

...but in a more humorous way.

Edgey does make everything better. Including really depressing/emotional cases.
I remember when Franziska was like, "If it wasn't for you.."
And then ??? answered, "I would have won. Is that what you wanted to say?"
Cue Revival: Miles Edgeworth music and I'm jumping around the room in glee along with my younger brother who loves the games as well.

....Anyway, it was sad when Maya was kidnapped and when came up on the transceiver it was like, "No...there?! She's there?!"

I went on again. Sorry.

Wait.... that wasn't obvious?
It wasn't obvious that she was being held there?
I admit, my first thought was the wine cellar of the Gatewater Hotel... but afterwards, it immediately went to that place.

C-A

Hahahaha that would be awesome!
You could imagine it too. Maybe it would be somewhat like this:

Apollo: "Hey, Mr Wright! This hot-dog stall is close to the crime scene, so there might be some witnesses around here."
Kokone: "Hey, maybe we could get some food while we're at it!"
Phoenix: "Hmm?" ('Samurai Dogs'....where have I heard that before?)
???: Nick? NICK!!!! I've missed you so much, buddy!
Phoenix: "Larry...?" (Larry Butz, huh? Long time, no see.)
Apollo: "Uh...Mr Wright?" (How could he be friends with a guy...like THIS?)
Larry: "So, how have you...WOAH, BABY! Nick, you've got a pretty good-looking assistant there!"
Kokone: *cute giggle* "Thanks!"
Larry: *swoon*
Phoenix: (Larry's single then? I wonder if he's gone off models...)
Larry: "Nick...tell me! WHY DO YOU GET ALL THE GOOD-LOOKING PEOPLE TO ACCOMPANY YOU?!"
Apollo: (Is this guy desperate or what?!)

Sorry, I felt like writing something.