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Thanks Mikker.

Winston in a dress? *Dies*
At least :franny: was attractive despite having the "fancy ponce" look with frilly clothes.
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I imagine her as a scatterbrain who can't make heads or tails from the court record, and wears these rediculusly large thick glasses. O-O :lana: <- Scale
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My ideas:

Case 5-1: Crushed Turnabout
Wright & Co. Law Offices are back in full swing. Wright is busy on a case requiring some extensive footwork when Gumshoe shows up, looking for Phoenix's help. Mike Meekins has been killed, and Dick's the prime suspect. Without Phoenix around, Gumshoe is reluctant to trust Apollo, and gives several annoying, "Y'know pal, this is where ol' Wright would check the court record..." type advice. In a turnabout, it's revealed that... Meekins actually died as a result of his own clumsiness. As a twist, it comes out that Prosecutor Payne had arranged for the scene of the crime to be altered to 'get' Gumshoe, in revenge for the numerous losses Payne felt was the result of Gumshoe's incompetence. Gumshoe is acquitted.
- Throwaway lines: Phoenix working with Edgeworth on the case
- References to Maggey

:spit: :zap: :redd-is-white: :sob: :scratch:

Well, that's about all I have to say...
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:spit: :zap: :redd-is-white: :sob: :scratch:

Well, that's about all I have to say...


Hey, it would be a nice twist, don't ya think? Certainly something we haven't seen before. Might be slightly much on the black humor for this series, but other than that...

Not attached to Meekins dying, it's just that you can cook up a motive for Gumshoe - they did know each other - and he's an already present clumsy character not many people would miss anyway. =p

Felinda Payne would be an awesome pun name, but not sure if we should really get vonKarmafamily2. We already have Feyfamily2.
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Meh... killing off Meekins would be the equivalent of some nutcase rushing into the courtroom and capping both Phoenix and Edgeworth in the head.
Who kills off the idiot comedy relief?! That's like right up there with killing children and pets.

*Is an AVID Meekins fan*

Besides, since :eh?: likes :maggy:.... and she's a bad luck magnet... not like it's been overdone or anything ^_^
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Who kills off the idiot comedy relief?! That's like right up there with killing children and pets.


The people who want to add drama! eg comic writers. XP

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Besides, since :eh?: likes :maggy:.... and she's a bad luck magnet... not like it's been overdone or anything ^_^


I think Gummy deserves SOME good stuff in his life... not to mention, Maggey's also something of comedy relief.
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Who kills off the idiot comedy relief?! That's like right up there with killing children and pets.


The people who want to add drama! eg comic writers. XP

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Besides, since :eh?: likes :maggy:.... and she's a bad luck magnet... not like it's been overdone or anything ^_^


I think Gummy deserves SOME good stuff in his life... not to mention, Maggey's also something of comedy relief.
Well I never said that something bad had to happen to Maggey! Just a catalyst. ^_^

In all seriousness, poor Gummy did kinda get overshadowed in the games, even though he has been in...uh...all of the games so far and he would be at least 40 years old by GS5. I also wouldn't mind :odoroki: getting a nice backstory since he was kinda heaved out of the spotlight in his own game.

As much as I don't want to admit it--the original Phoenix-arc characters are getting older game-wise, so new blood is needed, because I really don't feel like having Phoenix III (whomever [s]he might be after Odoroki) having to wait around for a venerable Phoenix to trudge down the sidewalk with his walker and oxygen tank... :shoe:
Too lazy... hur hur.
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I have a feeling that Odoroki's going to take a case that will lead him all the way to Bolginia.
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A witness who picks his nose when he gets nervous.
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A witness who picks his nose when he gets nervous.
...What?


I wouldn't be surprised if they added that to Hamigaki's list of disgusting habits sometime in the next two games...
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I want to see Maya/Mia back :( (What am I saying, I havent played GS4 yet!)
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GearsoftheApparatus wrote:
All I want is to see Iris come back.


That is a desperate hope, my friend~
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GS5 goes back in time, showing Marvin Grossberg's first case - looking at his office, the defendant was Vincent van Gogh.
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GS5 goes back in time, showing Marvin Grossberg's first case - looking at his office, the defendant was Vincent van Gogh.


It would be <3 to, if theres a flashback to one of Marvin's cases, that the painting is an important clue. Maybe staring the defendant?
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Case 5 - 1: Turnabout Revenge

The principal of a well-known university is murdered, and the accused is a teacher and Phoenix's ex-partner, Maya Fey. Apollo must defend her and uncover a trail of deceit and revenge.

Defence Attorney: :odoroki:
Prosecutor: :payne-stroke: (possibly with afro hairstyle)
Defendant: :maya: (except older)
Victim: Perr Ikly, principal of the school (I will post case 2 if anyone can get the reference)
COD: Stabbed in the chest.
MW: A kitchen knife

Other people:
Juniper Roswell, the school janitor. Loves her job, and has worked at 9th Avenue School for 29 years.

Bye. :darke: :bite: :scratch: :study: :varanbaran:
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Sorry. Accidently posted.
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Case 5-2: Mechanical Turnabout

The president of a a printing press is murdered, along with his aide. The factory's newest worker, investigative photographer Fiona Tograff is accused, and Apollo takes her case.

Defence Attorney: :odoroki:
Prosecutor: :kyouya: (He's back!)
Defendant: Fiona Tograff, an investigative photographer for the Top Scoop Printing Press.
Victims: Donald Rump/Bly Row. Donald is the corpulent head of the company, while Bly is his wimpish aide.
COD: Crushed in machinery, blood loss due to being shot in leg.
Other characters:

:ema-shock: Detective Ema Skye
Terra Rance, a creepy girl who is in charge of typing the newspapers.
Lance Drako: the ever-loyal butler of Fiona's brother Pik, and eyewitness.
Pik Tograff. Fiona's seemingly uncaring brother, is very arrogant, very deceitful.

Bye. :yanni-faint:
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I like those ideas, as its a way for the old gang to return :)
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I also wouldn't mind seeing the other members of :kyouya:'s band, or at least something involving them.
Too lazy... hur hur.
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Strategydom wrote:
Case 5 - 1: Turnabout Revenge

The principal of a well-known university is murdered, and the accused is a teacher and Phoenix's ex-partner, Maya Fey. Apollo must defend her and uncover a trail of deceit and revenge.

Defence Attorney: :odoroki:
Prosecutor: :payne-stroke: (possibly with afro hairstyle)
Defendant: :maya: (except older)
Victim: Perr Ikly, principal of the school (I will post case 2 if anyone can get the reference)
COD: Stabbed in the chest.
MW: A kitchen knife

Other people:
Juniper Roswell, the school janitor. Loves her job, and has worked at 9th Avenue School for 29 years.

Bye. :darke: :bite: :scratch: :study: :varanbaran:


There's only one huge flaw in your idea: Maya's busy being the Master so she has no time to be teaching delinquents their ABCs and 123s. Now, Maya being forced out of being Master and everyone wondering what happened to her as being the backdrop for the whole...now that's a story! Maybe forced out by some kind of coup...

As for returning characters, I just want to see :maya: :pearl: :edgeworth: and :larry2: reappear in the find case as support characters for the game's overarching storyline. Maybe they could help Odoroki and Phoenix break those....
Spoiler: 4-4 biggie spiolers. Turn back at once!
black Psyche-Locks on Kirihito. We still don't know why he murdered Zakku in the first place.
and have their pasts tie in with the events of GS4 and the Arumajiki's. Though, I can see that as taking away the spotlight from Odoroki. Maybe just :maya: and :pearl: could make return apperances while :edgeworth: and :butz: reappear in GS6.

Also, Payne is past his prime. Time for his successor to take the stand and prosecute every case in GS5 with the exception of the final case in which Kyouya makes a triumphant return. Something tells me that they'll be keeping the jury system around for a while longer, though...
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Also, Payne is past his prime. Time for his successor to take the stand and prosecute every case in GS5 with the exception of the final case in which Kyouya makes a triumphant return. Something tells me that they'll be keeping the jury system around for a while longer, though...

Actually, I'd prefer the opposite. I'd like to see Payne's successor prosecute the final case and be the Manfred of the new arc. A legitimately evil prosecutor who will stop at nothing for victory. The complete opposite of poor old Payne.

It'd throw you for a loop. You'd walk into the trial thinking it's easy. Phoenix will be like "Oh, it's prosecutor Payne. Don't sweat it." Which just shows how out of touch he is with recent faces in the courtroom.
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That's a really good idea!
And :franny: could be back maybe (older) - and not necessarily be "good" but have a shred of humanity and be nicer than she was. The opposite of arrogant, childish Fran.
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That's a really good idea!
And :franny: could be back maybe (older) - and not necessarily be "good" but have a shred of humanity and be nicer than she was. The opposite of arrogant, childish Fran.
Franny would be a good choice since she was hardly ever used. It could be very plausible since she still might hold a grudge against Nick--what better way to lash out at your rival than to take down the one who Nick was helping. :odoroki:

Spoiler: Or for the prosecutor...
Maybe Kyouya could pull the inverse of Edgey, who started off a ruthless jerk and became good. He certainly lost enough since the start of the game...between his friend, brother, and possibly his band because of the formermost.
I could see him snapping and becoming the next "Demon Prosecutor", just as some wacky twist.

Too lazy... hur hur.


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If Maya is forced out of being the Master
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wouldn't that be like 2-2 again? That would be a good case though, like a sidecase to the main one, and bringing back Morgan showing that she's not just a 1 time villain(ess).

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FINAL CASE IDEA!

Kyouya returns to prosecute the case but pulls a reverse-Edgey. Instead of being an honest, truthful prosecutor he's now become cold and has a negative outlook on things. During the final case, Odoroki has the murderer in the bag but then Kyouya pounces and produces some magical evidence product that gets Odoroki's defendant declared guilty; ending GS5 on a sour note....

...AND SETTING THE STAGE FOR GS6! THE GREATEST OF THEM ALL!
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Macbeth wrote:
FINAL CASE IDEA!

Kyouya returns to prosecute the case but pulls a reverse-Edgey. Instead of being an honest, truthful prosecutor he's now become cold and has a negative outlook on things. During the final case, Odoroki has the murderer in the bag but then Kyouya pounces and produces some magical evidence product that gets Odoroki's defendant declared guilty; ending GS5 on a sour note....

...AND SETTING THE STAGE FOR GS6! THE GREATEST OF THEM ALL!


That's true. I mean AA2 was such a sucky game that it really enhenced AA3. Perhaps it works in a similar way for the second game of the Odorokiarc?
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I'm dead serious right there. Seriously, if Capcom plays its hand right then they could make a game with potential to surpass any role-player in terms of epicness. Losing the final case...no one would see it coming. And Capcom's reputation would sky-rocket. Okay, maybe not but they would still go down as legends.

And guess what? The mastermind from GS5 is the focus of the main plotline. AND THEY RETURN FOR AN EPIC THREE-DAY COURTROOM SHOWDOWN THAT TIES IN EVERY MAJOR PLOT DEVICE FROM THE PREVIOUS GAMES! OMG EPICxDRAMA=AWESOME
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Why not go all the way and bring back the villain from GS4, then?

Spoiler:
KIRIHITO SHOT ODOROKI'S MOTHER, WA HA HA HA!!!! Well, I wish. That would be hilarious. I mean, horrible. Poor Odoroki :sadshoe:


There are a lot of things mentioned in GS4 that don't get entirely resolved. I think it's plenty to work with to give us a case that spans all three games. They had to have considered that, don't you think? Such as...

Spoiler:
-We don't know who shot Yuumi, why, or how she ended up in Bolginia.
-We don't know why Maki was so desperate for money - though this one I don't entirely expect to get explained.
-Ese mentioned that the reason Makoto is so scared of the outdoors because of some incident when she was kidnapped or attacked or something. COULD BE A HINT...??
-We don't know who Odoroki's father is, or how he died, or what happened to Odoroki afterwards.

I'm kind of hoping that Odoroki's dad shows up as a villain in GS6. Or shows up in GS5 but gets away to come back in 6.


It would suck to lose the last case of 5 entirely, though. Well, I guess you "lose" 2-4 but they played it in a way that made it not a real loss. I wouldn't want them to do that again in GS5, but maybe end it on a bittersweet note...? They're gonna have to pull out all the stops if they're going to keep people interested enough for GS6.
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O_O But Croik!

Spoiler:
We do kinda know what happened with Odoroki's dad.


Spoiler: lifted from the GS4 walkthrough, 4-4 spoilers
"Hamigaki also details that Yuumi was married to another performer before Zakku, who lost his life on stage only a year after they were married."

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Oh ho ho, but you're forgetting!

Spoiler:
Yuumi was considered dead for many years before anyone discovered she was still alive (and European!) Being thought dead has never stopped a PW character! It would be very easy for someone to fake their death on stage and return as a villain.

It would certainly be "surprising!" HA HA HA. (GET IT? 'Cause his surname would be Odoroki, too... ha ha... ha........ :sadshoe:

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I've always wodered if it could be possible to have case set on a train, or a cruiser or something. Heh, and entire game dedicated to on-voyage sea traveling, with court cases run in a specially designed area on the ship, could be pretty dam awesome.

Think of how you could tie in military, pirates, espionage, rich snobby persons, and sailors. Heh, perhaps a case where someone is killed by a mermaid?

It could go something like this:

case 1 (Landbased): Turnabout Conveyor

Some sailor is killed while loading a cargo ship. Cause of death: Crushed by heavy load. Payne will prove that it was not an accident, and that the defendant had not only opertunity but also motive to commit the murder (as always). Odoroki must prove that his client, the operator of the crane, is innocent.

Reminiscence: None

Special interest: Payne has grown large manly arms. Or something.

case 2 (seabased): Seaworthy Turnabout

Odoroki wins a cruise trip with the famous Queen [whatever] luxery liner. Not long after, a very rich british duke is murdered. Odoroki must prove that the waiter did, in fact, NOT poison his coffee with potasium cyionide. Or something. Anyway, the Judge is there because he's on a cure trip for his bad back. Ema is flown in with a helecopter.

Reminiscence: Another luxery liner is sunk, some years ago. The actual purpetrator in that case is the real killer, who almost sinks the Queen [whatever] as well.

Special interest: From here on out, the court is based ON THE SHIP ITSELF, in a special area at the top of the ship (meaning outside). The new prosecutor is the brisk captain of the vessal, who is going to go all ahoy matey on yo arse.

case 3 (seabased): Turnabout of Arms

While enjoying his cruise on the USS Queen Whatever, the crew hears a report: An aircraft carrier close by has been closed off due to a murder incidence. Ema asks Odoroki to come with her to the carrier in the helecopter. The trial itself is hold on the Queen Whatever. Odoroki will have to prove that his client, a fighter jet pilot, did not shoot down another fighter jet pilot. The real killer should be the general on the ship. Huzzah.

Reminiscence: Some older incident on the ship of crucial importance, where the older brother to the defandant was blown apart in a fetal explosion while inflight.

Special interest: Fighter jets. En masse.

case 4 (seabased): Turnabout Fluids

Traveling along steadily on the Queen Whatever, the terrible news are heard. A murder has been done on a nearby oil rig (at this point, Odoroki will start getting sick of all the interuptions on his holiday). Ema will take Odoroki there in the helicopter. It turns out that the victim was shot, in the good 'ol way. Odorok will have to defend a submarine pirate that on the day came to capture some oily booty. Hillarity ensures.

Reminiscence: Flashbacks to when the oilrig was build. Some important stuff involving submarine pirates.

Special interest: Whatever.

case 5 (seabased): Turnabout to the End

While the Queen Whatever nears the end of her voyage, the captain of the ship, who is also the prosecutor, is (ZOMG) murdered. There are plenty of witnesses, among Odoroki himself?, and it seems that the prosecutor is killed.... by a mermaid! Odoroki must prove an onboard scupa diver innocent.

Reminiscence: Some flashy last-case-stuff.

Special interest: Return of Garyuu. Some flashy last-case-stuff. The real murderer will throw him/herself off the edge of the ship, and drawn. The case has a bad ending, in which Queen whatever burns and drawns. Odoroki will make it out of there on the helicopter. Most other people die in the burning masses :D

Total timespan of the game: 2nd to 5th case is a month or two. The first case happen some time earlier. The game will be called Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney: High Tide (or something similar)
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This is so becoming like a soap opera!

I want to see a case where wither Nick or Odoroki (probably Odo) gets in trouble... and Kyouya--as mentioned above--becomes some Von Karma Guilty-or-Bust psycho and the only person who can defend Odoroki is... uh...
Spoiler: GS4 4-4
:garyuu: in his well-manicured goodness! If Nick got his badge taken away for screwing up as a lawyer, Kiri is still in the green... but not really...

Oh... leave me to my pathetic dreams.
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Enough seabased cases. I want to see one on an airpl and have it set in an airport! Imagine how sneaky you would have to be the pin the blame on someone else that way.

You know...I'm busy contemplating writing a series of fanfics of my own that involve a murder on an airplane and a con artist; but I'll be damned if Capcom steals my idea! :zenny:

...Not that it has any relevance to the topic. << >>
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This game is a soap opera unto itself, not just a game :D That's why I'd love an anime series.
I like to see
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Nick defend Odoroki in GS5, as Odoroki helps him in GS4 but he might not be a lawyer again, I dont know

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Whatever happens, I hope Kyouya ends up as a witness at some point. Just so I can use the Minuku System on him. :chef:
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Personally, I hope they bring back Lotta Hart. Sure, people may hate her guts for reasons unknown but she was an integral piece to solving a handful of cases throughout AA and JFA and bringing her back as a now-well-renowned photographer wouldn't be unnatural at all. In fact, it would be quite canon. She disappears for the duration of T&T and GS4 because she's off reporting news stories around the world.
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That's true, but the series already has a journalist to take her place; Hamigaki can easily become the Lotta of the Justice Arc. (Enough people dislike him, that's for damn sure...)
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Lotta of the Justice Arc.


THAT SOUNDS BADASS
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Lotta of the Justice Arc.


THAT SOUNDS BADASS


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