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Considering both Gant and Dahlia have a chance to come back, Dahlia isn't out yet. Dahlia did, however, leave with an "I'll be back" message.
Whether this was an empty threat, or something actually thought out, is a mystery. But since everyone on the last page just wants previous final bosses back...
I demand Dahlia, the most villainous of all villains in the Ace Attorney universe.
It might not have to be possession. REINCARNATION! DAHLIA 2.0!! IT'S 7 YEARS LATER, MORE THAN ENOUGH TIME!!!
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In fact, one of my OCs is inspired by Professor Hojo from FF7.
Sci-fi in Ace Attorney.. I think it already exist (anyone said "Godot's visor"?), even if in the other hand we have all those mobiles and computers older than nowadays XD
I don't think they did a good job with the whole "10 years into the future" thing because as you said, the phones and computers are stuck in the early 2000s. XD That's why I want more sci-fi.
And yes, a AA/TC crossover would be badass even though it probably won't happen. n_n
@ OniXera: I really doubt we'll see more of Dahlia, because the PW1-3 arc is pretty much over, unless Capcom changes their minds. 1-5 was made after the original trilogy by the AJ team as a "prequel" to AJ so Gant seems more likely.
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@ OniXera: I really doubt we'll see more of Dahlia, because the PW1-3 arc is pretty much over, unless Capcom changes their minds. 1-5 was made after the original trilogy by the AJ team as a "prequel" to AJ so Gant seems more likely.
I agree abut the difficulty of Dahlia's reappearence (that wouldn't mean it's impossible, in fact I think that she will return somehow, but not as main villain)... and you know? The topic about Apollo's father = Gant is really interesting: it's impossible, even in a strange world like the AA one, that a man like Gant could have a relationship with a woman like Thalassa and be the father of a boy like Apollo, because it would be really near to pedophilia... BUT no one said that Gant can't have a son AT ALL. Apollo's father, why not?
... will Gant and his son, Apoll's father, be the final bosses? Imagine: a boy, that thinks as himself as an orphan, discoveres that his mother is alive, his father in alive and his grandfather killed two people. And maybe his grandfather tries to frame his motherand his half-sister, with the help of his father (you know, the "damn you, f**king b***c, you betrayed me with another man!" fact). If it's that, it would be AWESOME.
And, about the TC/AA crossover... my AA fanfictions now looks like enormous crossovers. If I can finally translate the first chapters, I'll post them!
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Yes, but Gant now has absolutely no standing in the series now. He lost his title, is currently in jail and shows absolutely no motive for returning. He no longer has any reason to keep doing things to "be the best", because he can no longer be back in the position of Chief of Police again. He doesn't seem to have any pull while in jail either, unlike Kristoph.
Kristoph wants revenge on Phoenix, Dahlia wants revenge on Phoenix and Mia.
Dynamic duo?
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...sort of like 2-4 but the opposite. Enough with the evil villains. I'd like to see the series play with more gray area-type conflicts. There are, by now, enough hints and backstory in the series to make this plausible without considerable retcon.
A bit off-topic, did Capcom ever implicitly say that the old Ace Attorney characters won't be making a return in the Apollo Justice series? If so, then my theory is pretty much shot.
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She was never dead so why should she be,
so how is that a wonder
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She was never dead so why should she be,
so how is that a wonder
She was sarcastic.
Her point is that
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She was never dead so why should she be,
so how is that a wonder
She was sarcastic.
Her point is that
It'll seem extremely recycled.
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so how is that a wonder
She was sarcastic.
Her point is that
It'll seem extremely recycled.
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It would also be boycotted by Catholic groups globally. Not a great business decision.
I personally look forward to a game-specific (Even a case-specific) character. Cameos are nice, but I don't think it's good in the game which they really need to focus on Apollo in.
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Take a good look, everybody. Unable to find a good rival, I was forced to create one. Here I am, the Tragic Clown, the final villian of GS5.
Sorry, I had to do it.
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same
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I hope I'm wrong.
Objector. 'Nuff Said.
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*fanfiction here*
it turns out he organised a lot of the cases, steel samurai case, nickel samurai case, Mia's death, and a lot more
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Sort of like the *real* villain in Henry Hatsworth.
Ooh, a real drumroll. Nice.
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except all the channeler's are woman so even if it's possible, manfred in woman body is veeery scary.
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Yeah, I know what you're thinking. "There's no way Zak Gramarye can be the final villian. Zak's dead." Just hear me out.
It was never proven Zak was Shadi Smith. The only evidence was Phoenix, Kristoph and Brushel's words. What if Zak hired somebody (IE a stunt double or Zak Look a like) to pose as "Shadi Smith" and gave him the magic rights to give to Trucy.
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...then we've gotta go bigger.
How about the mayor?
No... THE PRESIDENT.
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...then we've gotta go bigger.
How about the mayor?
No... THE PRESIDENT.
ARE YOU A BAD ENOUGH DUDE TO CROSS-EXAMINE THE PRESIDENT?
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...yes.
Yes, I am.
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Killing Phoenix? That would be a horrible idea!
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...sort of like 2-4 but the opposite. Enough with the evil villains. I'd like to see the series play with more gray area-type conflicts. There are, by now, enough hints and backstory in the series to make this plausible without considerable retcon.
A bit off-topic, did Capcom ever implicitly say that the old Ace Attorney characters won't be making a return in the Apollo Justice series? If so, then my theory is pretty much shot.
I don't remember any of that, but I did remember the whole "the villain will be someone familiar" thing. I'm not sure. I could be wrong, or I could have misinterpreted everything I've been hearing.
I also hope it's another not-so-evil villain at the end. Usually the final ones have the blackest hearts.
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Even if we assume that none of the friendly characters (Edgeworth, Franziska, Lang, Gumshoe, etc.) would turn Kay in, it's unrealistic to assume that every law enforcement official would willingly look the other way for a vigilante thief whose identity would be well known.
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1. As I said about a month ago here, I would be far more comfortable with the villains (and the vast majority of characters) in the game being new and original. The series has rehashed characters before, and IMO they're not very good at it. However, an old character being a defendant would be pretty interesting, especially with all the possible motives available for the prosecution.
2. The anti-villain role has been used before as well, and IMO they're not very good at that, either. To this day, Justice For All, THE anti-villain game, is often considered one of the worse games, with its cases being considered some of the worst in the series. People want satisfaction from taking down the villain. On the other hand, 3-5 has a good anti-villain, so maybe they can manage to make another one. I'm honestly not crossing my fingers, though.
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I liked some of Justice for All a lot BTW.
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I liked some of Justice for All a lot BTW.
An anti-hero is somebody who does good things but isn't really that much of a good person.
An anti-villain is somebody who does bad things but isn't really that much of a bad person. (i.e. Mimi Miney, Acro, Godot. YMMV)
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I always wanted him to come back...
Maybe some client that betrayed him would be the victim, and his target would be Phoenix's or Apollo's client because he or she survived or something...
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I always wanted him to come back...
Maybe some client that betrayed him would be the victim, and his target would be Phoenix's or Apollo's client because he or she survived or something...
I would like for Shelly to come back too for a case , but not as the final villain. I think it should be Valant, and he will actually be you client for the case, just like Engarde was. However the situation would be much more tragic.
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" Or, the remaining 5%...
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I liked some of Justice for All a lot BTW.
An anti-hero is somebody who does good things but isn't really that much of a good person.
An anti-villain is somebody who does bad things but isn't really that much of a bad person. (i.e. Mimi Miney, Acro, Godot. YMMV)
Definitely agree about Acro and maybe Godot, Acro didnt seem like a bad person at all.
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