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KSA_Tech wrote:
I think that you can do the page on the wiki, doesn't sound like a problem to me.

Well, this can be read on the List of Fangames page:
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You are welcome to add your own projects to the list, as long as they meet the following criteria:

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2. They are Ace Attorney style games. They do not have to feature characters from the original games(see Banjo: Ace Attorney for an example of this). However, they must be in the Ace Attorney style. For example, an RPG game featuring Phoenix Wright characters would not be accepted.

Now, my game isn't like any other Ace Attorney game and it doesn't involve any cases. It's just a "fighting" game located in a courthouse. Instead of fist fighting, you'll fight with evidence. Because of this, I have no idea can I really make a page for it or not. It has the looks and some ideas of an Ace Attorney game but it really isn't a real AA game...
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I think it is ok, since it still has roots on the Ace Attorney idea. But that's my own opinion.
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Hm, I should've figured a tricky case like this would come up... >_>

I mean, I would make a special case, but then I can guarantee if I did, a bit later someone will come along with an actual RPG made in which you use evidence to attack... and then something even further from the original... and so on... it again comes to the question of where exactly to draw the line... >_>
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Lee Ji Hoon wrote:
Hm, I should've figured a tricky case like this would come up... >_>

I mean, I would make a special case, but then I can guarantee if I did, a bit later someone will come along with an actual RPG made in which you use evidence to attack... and then something even further from the original... and so on... it again comes to the question of where exactly to draw the line... >_>

Yeah, I understand. If you pass one, you're going to pass others too... Well, I'm fine with whatever you decide, so just think about what to do. I'm going to release a demo version of it in a few days so maybe that'll help you decide if it's Ace Attorneyish enough to pass the line or not. :P
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Anything that uses either the characters (as in nego's game) or the style (say an AA case with non-AA characters) should be valid in my opinion. Perhaps they could be divided into sections that way. From what I've seen of nego's game at least, it certainly looks phoenixy enough to me. If a game doesn't use the phoenix characters, and doesn't have gameplay similar enough to an ace attourney game, that is where the line should be drawn in my opinion.
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But these are only for Ace Attorney STYLE games, as in they are like the DS games. The site is designed for case makers and fangames made with them. rpg or fighting games are not cases or ace attorney style. therefore I dont think they should be accepted.

PS I aint tryin to hurt anyone here...
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Neon Lemmy Koopa wrote:
But these are only for Ace Attorney STYLE games, as in they are like the DS games. The site is designed for case makers and fangames made with them. rpg or fighting games are not cases or ace attorney style. therefore I dont think they should be accepted.

PS I aint tryin to hurt anyone here...

I know you aren't trying to hurt anyone here. Actually, I'm happy to hear your opinion as that's why I asked about it. I wanted to know if it was acceptable to make a wiki site for the game as it's not really like the DS games although it's made by using the sprites, evidence and backgrounds found in the games. This makes it very tough to determine if it was ok to make a wiki site for it or not. That's why I'm asking and honestly I think it's for the best to arouse this so that we'd know in the future if these type of games were accepted to have their own CaseMaker wiki page.
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Maybe a separate page on the wiki can list related fangames that don't match the criteria (rpgs or fighting games). This way it's clear to people looking for one or the other kind of fan game where to look. Possibly another wiki is needed though.

Good job with the wiki everyone who's worked on it by the way!
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The wiki says "Casemaker Wiki' so it's only for casemakers and fangames made on casemakers or have is a case game. RPGs and fighting games are not case games.

If anything, maybe there should be a separate wiki for any AA fangame.
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I don't think having more than one wiki is necessary. Why can't we just make it the "Ace Attorney Fanproject Wiki"? The wiki already has some fangame articles, which are clearly not casemakers and by your logic shouldn't be on the wiki. Putting all of the casemakers, fangames, and resources in one place would be very convenient and very useful for anyone conducting a fanproject, and it seems to be a bit pointless to be arguing over little details like this.
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Because once you create a wiki on wiki-site, you cannot rename it. Sure he's thinking about moving to a paid domain someday, but until then we are stuck with the name "Casemaker Wiki".
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You have a point of making it a fan project in general site.
Heck, since we don't have one, maybe even make it an Ace Attorney wiki in general, allowing for pages on fanprojects as well.

(Edit: This is just a possibility when moving the site. It's not a change of the rules at this point in time.)
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Lee Ji Hoon wrote:
Heck, since we don't have one, maybe even make it an Ace Attorney wiki in general, allowing for pages on fanprojects as well.

Although CR covers almost everything pretty well, I support this idea. We'd really need an Ace Attorney Wiki.
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A wiki is better than CR for a fangame general info, since it is organized and we don't have to search on a specific forum. CR is a forum, not exactly suited for the game's complete description too.
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I had thoughts of an Ace Attorney wiki once, but I never did suggested it to the community. It could be like Bulbapedia or something.

I also had the idea of making a system where we affiliate with other AA-related wikis, and put up link backs. I should suggest it to Bee and his Super Makoto wiki. Hmm, but until everyone decides what the final product this wiki should be, I don't think I'll be ready to affiliate yet.
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KSA_Tech wrote:
A wiki is better than CR for a fangame general info, since it is organized and we don't have to search on a specific forum. CR is a forum, not exactly suited for the game's complete description too.

CR is a fan site which has all the info on the main site. All the character bios, case descriptions and other similar stuff can be found on the main site. However, I still think a wiki site would be a great idea, especially for what you said: it's organized differently.
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For the game problem, you could list the regular fangames and then have a "Misc." section for non case style fangames.
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BigFish wrote:
For the game problem, you could list the regular fangames and then have a "Misc." section for non case style fangames.

I agree. I see more of a problem with the games that have nothing to do with AA but use the same system than the games that don't use the system but are still AA-related (like Nego's), but regardless they are all fangames and should get some spotlight on the wiki. As long as they have something to do with Ace Attorney (whether using the system, characters, or concepts), I don't see any problem with putting them on there as long as we have a way of categorizing them.

I don't know if I agree with it being a general Ace Attorney wiki, simply because of the number of AA/GS fansites there are already and how comprehensive they all are, and doing it all over would be a bit redundant. That said, I certainly wouldn't object to it.
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I think it could (and it would make sense for it) grow into a general "fan stuff" wiki, but a general wiki for information about the official capcom games would be outside the scope (as this is covered well by existing sites). It's just that, except for the forum, there is no central place to go to see what others are working on or to reminisce about that funny movie someone made a year ago, or track the various versions of some other project.

If the casemaker wiki is not the place for this, that still leaves the question of where that place should be. Searching forums is not conducive for this kind of activity. For keeping track of and discussing new works, forums are great; but for other kinds of activity a more stable central place is needed I think.
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Well then, I guess it'll be a fan project wiki then. ^_^

As for when it'll be done... shouldn't be _too_ far away although I still can't give an exact date.
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Hm...
Can anyone help me find a relatively inexpensive wiki host with domain registration?
Or if anyone else wants to do this on a server they already have, I'm more than happy to assist in transferring the pages over.
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http://www.wiki-site.com/index.php/Advanced_Wiki

Yeh?

I'd be willing to fund it, but we'd need to agree on some things beforehand- namely, the domain name and the material that would be included in it.
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Well, i have my server as usual if there isn't any other option.
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Lee Ji Hoon wrote:
Well then, I guess it'll be a fan project wiki then. ^_^


*Three hairy thumbs up*

That's great!
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*Three hairy thumbs up*

:jazzsneeze: YTV FTW :jazzsneeze:

But I think it's been more or less agreed that it'll be a general fanproject wiki. That means that we won't have multiple wikis running, and it's easy to find what you want while not being so confusingly overly huge as a full GS wiki.
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I was thinking a simple but related name like http://www.acefan.net (yes, that's available).

The "Advanced Wiki" is kinda short on bandwidth...
I was thinking about this one http://www.siteground.com/mediawiki-hosting.htm - it's got a HUGE data transfer, and the cost is relatively low ($10 a month, plus a $25 setup fee - no way I can afford to pay yearly at the moment).

What do you guys think of that domain name?
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Acefan? No. That just sounds like someone is an ace at being a fan of something. :P

Why not aceattorneyfandom?
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I was trying to keep it simple.
That one works, though. Or we could go with the obvious, "aceattorneyfanwiki"...

I could also possibly register it through the same provider I use for my own website(VERY low costs - no setup fee, just domain registration(and that's free for the first year, too) and the hosting cost - about $6 a month for 40GB bandwidth)... the only disadvantage being I'd have to set up MediaWiki myself. Does anyone here know if it's relatively simple to set it up? (I do have some basic PHP and MySQL experience)
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Is the site for all things AA, all things Court-Records AA, or all things Court-Records?
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Well, the people here seem to think a full AA wiki isn't needed, so I guess it would be mostly for casemakers and fangames...
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Lee Ji Hoon wrote:
Well, the people here seem to think a full AA wiki isn't needed, so I guess it would be mostly for casemakers and fangames...


Or fan things in general, not everything has to be a casemaker or a fangame............
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Casemakers and fangames only. Unless Court-Records provide that for us. CR is for AA data. The wiki would be for CMs and Fangames only, specifically.
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I agree with KSA guy. Thats what this thing was originally for anyway
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Why not OTHER fan things added to the mix? Is everyone forgetting about projects like the
Phoenix Wright Mecha fic project, NickRoll and other non-casemaker/fangames things?

Don't be biased towards the other GREAT things made in the fandom!

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Other FAN things = ok.

Don't yell. :chinami:
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But this was originally intended for just fangames and the things that make them. Thats what it should stay as. Alot of fangames dont get much recognition anyway, so this is a good idea. I dont think its biased or anything
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Lee Ji Hoon wrote:
Well then, I guess it'll be a fan project wiki then. ^_^

As for when it'll be done... shouldn't be _too_ far away although I still can't give an exact date.


Read the bolded text.

I only enlarged my text to make sure people would read it. >_>
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I guess full projects, such as NickRoll and stuff are fine.
However, while an article about Fanfiction itself would be okay, due to the number of them I dunno if I'd want to see an article for each individual piece of fan-fiction. Even more so for fanmade sprites.
Although maybe that's viable too, if they're grouped under their author rather than just having full articles.
(If you don't get what I mean, go to the Phoenix Wright: Trials of Life page on the current wiki, and look at how the pages for each case or character is a subpage of the game's page, rather than a whole seperate page)

Once again, it comes down to the question of where exactly to draw the line.

I'm off to work in a few, when I get back I'll see how this discussion is going - I've found I'm actually quite able to register the site at any given point in time now, so I'm just waiting until a consensus has been reached on the domain name and allowable content. More so the former - the rules on content can always be relaxed at a later date if necessary.
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arrgh. you win.
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The problem is even when a fanfiction is grouped by author, some authors have almost hundreds of fics. Okay maybe not hundreds, but still. Maybe with fanfiction we just stick to fanfiction website articles and fanfiction terms. (Terms are part of the fandom, y'know.) That's my ten cents, anyone else want a go?
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