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Re: Damion Shard - Ace Attorney (for PWLib) *DEMO AVAILABLE*Topic%20Title
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When I get a chance, i will try it soundless. I am currently swamped with work.

@ YggdrasilsSword: haha sorry, I couldnt find the proper animations i wanted to use, so i just used the gifs i had under photobucket.

I will give you a status report of how things work for me here when i get a chance to get back to try the game again.
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KSA_Tech wrote:
Case 1-1 was built over 1.0x's era.
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Image Case 1-1 was developed primarily in 1.1's Beta era and is more likely to work in 1.1 than 1.0! 1-1 had to wait for the release of 1.1 before it was released!
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DDRKhat wrote:
KSA_Tech wrote:
Case 1-1 was built over 1.0x's era.
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Image Case 1-1 was developed primarily in 1.1's Beta era and is more likely to work in 1.1 than 1.0! 1-1 had to wait for the release of 1.1 before it was released!
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@DDRKhat

Yes, but it began dev over 1.0x's. And if I recall you did it a bit before 1.1's beta.
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:object: During development the entire code-base was scratched and started once again as 1.1's beta became available
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@DDRKhat

Yes I know, but the first dev began on 1.0x (so we can consider it 1.0x era game). Also, 1-1 had 2 codes, you tested over 1.0x and 1.1, so both worked.

The only game RELEASED on 1.0x era was ToL.
Case 1-1 and Damion were released on 1.1 natively.

Oh, btw, mgs2master2, have you played Case 1-1 and ToL too, I suppose?

Talking about problems: I'll add a way to not init sound (so sound issues can be tested easily just in case).
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Yes I know, but the first dev began on 1.0x (so we can consider it 1.0x era game). Also, 1-1 had 2 codes, you tested over 1.0x and 1.1, so both worked.
Yes, however. The case 1-1 that was released was the version that got scrapped and restarted, coded for PWLib 1.1 from the ground up, none of 1.0's code remains.
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Re: Damion Shard - Ace Attorney (for PWLib) *DEMO AVAILABLE*Topic%20Title
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Oh, YggdrasilsSword:

I was thinking a while ago on making a Games Section on my site and add a site for the games made with PWLib that deserved to be noted due to quality.
so, seeing that Damion Shard's case 1 was very well done, I was thinking into adding it to the list and placing a special page for it (I was going to do it with Remnants, but papermario never sent me unique stuff about his game).
So, if you're interested, let me know.
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Sure I'm interested!
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Ok.

What I'll need to add the page is:

* the layout of the page.
* unique information on the game (can be info, or pics, or anything else that won't be available anywhere else).
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All right. Could you elaborate a bit more on both of those?
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* the layout of the page: basically how the page will look like (similar to the wiki).
* unique information on the game: basically some data on the page (be it pics, or information, or anything else) be exclusive (not appear anywhere else).
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All right, I think I'll have some "unique information" for you to put there: a few screenshots of future cases.
How specific will you want this layout though? I mean, can it be very general, or do you want every element enumerated?
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I think every element enumerated will be easier for me to build the page.
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Okey dokey, then. I'll PM you when I've got all the specifics.
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Page Added:

http://www.ksatechnologyhq.com:1357/site/games/pwlib/damionshard
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All right! Awesome, looks good.
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Page layout updated.

If you want to add more characters, let me know.
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Further updated page and added a first page news on the game.

* Organized character per type (per family, and others)
* Added logo (got from the Wiki)
* Added download link

Let me know if you like the new layout I did.
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Okay, the page is great. Love the organization.
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OK.
Any change you like to do on the site, let me know (PM or anything else).

After all, it's a little bit of candy for those who work with PWLib as well.
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That page does look really good!

But how can Mia be so cruel, prosecuting against her own sister ;-;

And what's with the color swaps for Phoenix and Edgy? And the empty (and half empty) courtroom for the last 3 cases....
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Bad Player wrote:
That page does look really good!

But how can Mia be so cruel, prosecuting against her own sister ;-;

And what's with the color swaps for Phoenix and Edgy? And the empty (and half empty) courtroom for the last 3 cases....

Well, those cases would be rather spoilerific if their casts were revealed. So part or all of their contents remain top secret.
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Yggdrasil, I'm thinking on adding the characters that appear on case 1 (the witness and the defendant). I'll be waiting for your approval.
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KSA_Tech wrote:
Yggdrasil, I'm thinking on adding the characters that appear on case 1 (the witness and the defendant). I'll be waiting for your approval.

Good idea. Feel free to do so.
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Page updated.
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YggdrasilsSword wrote:
Bad Player wrote:
That page does look really good!

But how can Mia be so cruel, prosecuting against her own sister ;-;

And what's with the color swaps for Phoenix and Edgy? And the empty (and half empty) courtroom for the last 3 cases....

Well, those cases would be rather spoilerific if their casts were revealed. So part or all of their contents remain top secret.


Then why don't you have empty courtrooms for the other cases? (Since I thought there would be 10, and even if Turnabout Origins counts, you're still missing one)

Also, why is Turnabout Origins listed as Episode 0? Even if it isn't chronologically whatever number it is, doesn't that not matter? (Like with Turnabout Beginnings and Turnabout Memories?)
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I made the page with the info YggdrasilsSword sent me.
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Finally got around to playing this. Sorry it took me so long! It's great work.

Now for some crits. Anything I don't mention meant that I either missed it, or liked it :)

The intro/demo thing was confusing and a little overlong. I kept wondering when the game would start, and there wasn't enough connection between scenes to really follow the story. It was like a trailer, and being a trailer should have been at the end instead of the beginning (even though the events come before the trial). Basically, if you are going to fill that in with gameplay later, than nevermind the comment, if you aren't, I would like a more clear intro that helps me understand what's going on rather than a jumble of scenes.

Bug report for KSA (I think he might know this already, but just in case) - in court record, the back button sometimes appears too low, and sometimes the left/right bars and the header bars aren't visible.

Don't like the reuse of characters at all. I can't get the originals out of my head. But maybe it will be OK. (Your characterizations and choices of sprite for them are good though) But on the other hand OC's are very hard, so I understand. I would prefer to have cases I can play like this to having to wait 6 more months while OC's are made.

Another BR (not sure if it's for KSA or for you), when the knife is added the the court record, the game pauses, and I as a player am not sure if it is going to continue without me or if I have to click somewhere. (Just for a second)

A prosecutor who has never lost - this concept is getting a bit old to me. He needs another gimmick to make him stand out.

Where was the save? I was trapped playing the whole thing in one sitting... What is it with all these new casemaker games and their save problems...

Very minor thing I noticed KSA, the top bar on the biguglyarrow screen has the ridge for court record, in the regular games the top bar goes straight across, it only changes to the ridge in the CR. Only noticed this because I was just working on this specific thing.

When first cross examine goes all the way through, it shows a screen of larry with text for a split second before switching to maya.

I don't really like it when the prosecutor helps my case too much. Especially one who has supposedly never lost. (Didn't like it in Apollo either). I would have liked Damien to be the instigator of the third cross-exam of Wares.



Other than above, dialog = great, case design = sufficiently twisty, character names (like Totali didet, lol) are hilarious, and case 2 is being looked forward to by myself. Congratz!

It was thoroughly enjoyable. And made me hungry. Mmm, tacos. Going to head to Taco Dell and buy a new computer and some lunch. MMMmmmmmmmmmmmm... I think I'll eat the computer first and then hook up the taco :yogi: I wonder how many megahertz tacos can reach...
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@Bad Player
Turnabout Finale includes another case which takes place concurrently. That is the tenth court case.
As for Origins, that is a special case. (No pun intended.) It isn't solely a matter of chronology, as Episode 4 is a flashback case also and is numbered normally. It's something like a "bonus case", if you will.

@saluk
Whoa, that's an earful of complaints (though I share a few of them myself), but I'm glad you liked the case.
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Bug report for KSA (I think he might know this already, but just in case) - in court record, the back button sometimes appears too low, and sometimes the left/right bars and the header bars aren't visible.


Almost fixed on 1.2. The problems happen way less then on 1.1 now.

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Another BR (not sure if it's for KSA or for you), when the knife is added the the court record, the game pauses, and I as a player am not sure if it is going to continue without me or if I have to click somewhere. (Just for a second)


The Evidence Add effect waits for input to continue. It's been like that since the feature was added. I think it's like that on original pw, but ill check (and making it go auto is very simple).

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Very minor thing I noticed KSA, the top bar on the biguglyarrow screen has the ridge for court record, in the regular games the top bar goes straight across, it only changes to the ridge in the CR. Only noticed this because I was just working on this specific thing.


Fixed on 1.2 ages ago.

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1.2 will make this game look a lot better.
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But wasn't this Meson's first trial as a prosecutor? Which would make him more like Godot....
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But wasn't this Meson's first trial as a prosecutor? Which would make him more like Godot....

That is inaccurate. I believe he stated that he had prosecuted in 49 trials before.

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I've noticed something that ought to be fixed in this picture. The little gray part that says "Profiles" should align with the bottom of the "Evidence" tab (and vice versa for the evidence page). In this case, it's a few pixels too low.
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YggdrasilsSword wrote:
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But wasn't this Meson's first trial as a prosecutor? Which would make him more like Godot....

That is inaccurate. I believe he stated that he had prosecuted in 49 trials before.

Oh right... Nvm :oops:
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It's the profiles button that is too high in fact. Just some wrong placement.

I'll work on it when I do the review on the CR effects.
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KSA_Tech wrote:
It's the profiles button that is too high in fact. Just some wrong placement.

I'll work on it when I do the review on the CR effects.

Well, looking at the original Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney, it seems that the dark gray area between the gray "Profiles" and the top bar is too large on PWLib. Also, there should be a white tab behind the Evidence button.
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I was going to work on the CR now (since I finished the waitforeffect command), so I might get it sorted by tomorrow.
After all, PWLib is meant to be the definitive casemaker.
I should have fixed the placement earlier.
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For evidence added, I think a simple (Please click anywhere to continue) would be enough.

Just want to add that none of my complaints brought down my opinion of the game, I just wanted to give as much useful feedback as possible because the game was awesome.
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I'm pleased that PWLib gave birth to a really nice game. I guess the game shows how good PWLib 1.1 still is (even though I dislike it compared to 1.2).
As always... PWLib: Powering Your PW Dreams

The next cases will be certainly cool to play. If more games like this get release on PWLib, I surely will give a boost on working on PWLib (well, it's motivating).

As I finish something special, I'll look on the AddEvidenceEffect.
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Well, I've sort of let this thread sink a bit. Don't worry, work continues, but I'm actually having to write up Case 2 before I really get started with its actual production. And, considering it will be significantly greater in length, this is going to take a bit of time. In other news, this appears to be my 300th post. Whoopie.
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